Re: PESO: Shaky Bridge
Must be a pretty stout bridge to put up with all those impacts. I’ve seen a few around here where they had to rebuild the bridge. -Original Message- >From: John >Subject: Re: PESO: Shaky Bridge > >I've actually seen them try that on the 11'8" bridge in the video. > >Where I went to High School is about 3 blocks north of where that bridge is >located. My father's office was about 4 blocks south of there. > >Before I had a driver's license, I'd walk down to his office every day after >school to catch a ride home with him when he got off work. I walked up Gregson >Street almost every day on the way to my father's office (actually to where >his >car was parked so I could dump off my books). > >One time, an 18 wheeler got stuck under there & they were trying to grease the >roof back it out without tearing it up any more than it already was, but it >wasn't working. > >Finally, some smart-Alec kid asked them why they didn't just let the air out >of >the trailer tires to lower the trailer. > >I wish I could say I was that smart-Alec kid, but I'm not that smart. > > >On 9/8/2019 13:23:41, Ken Waller wrote: >> Maybe they should try lubrication ! >> >> >> -Original Message- >>> From: John >>> Subject: Re: PESO: Shaky Bridge >>> >>> On 9/7/2019 21:02:09, P. J. Alling wrote: >>>> This could be fixed with signage. There's a low underpass on the former >>>> NY, NH, >>>> and Hartford, tracks where it crosses US1 in Madison CT, where tractor >>>> trailers >>>> used to regularly get their trailers either scalped or stuck. Signs were >>>> place >>>> at several locations to warn of the impending doom, and they seem to have >>>> worked. Hasn't been a stuck or wrecked trailer at that location in >>>> several years. >>>> >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USu8vT_tfdw >>> >>> >>>> On 8/30/2019 9:28 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >>>>> One would think so, but until three weeks ago, this one-lane wooden bridge >>>>> was used daily by commuters as a link between two US highways. >>>>> The biggest problem was the fact that trucks would come to the bridge >>>>> based >>>>> on their GPS directions, and them have difficulty turning around when they >>>>> realized they could not cross the bridge. This could cause huge back-ups. >>>>> >>>>> Dan Matyola >>>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 7:23 AM Paul Stenquist >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> A pretty scene, but obviously of another era. >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 30, 2019, at 1:11 AM, Alan C wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The sides don't look to bad. I suppose the real problem lies in the load >>>>>> bearing surface? Municipalities can't afford to take risks. >>>>>>> Alan C >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 30-Aug-19 06:23 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >>>>>>>> For years there has been an old wooden one-lane bridge in our town over >>>>>> the >>>>>>>> NJ TRANSIT tracks. A few weeks ago, the New Jersey Department of >>>>>>>> Transportation suddenly announced the bridge is in poor condition, >>>>>>>> requiring an emergency closure. NJT, the state and other entities are >>>>>>>> arguing over who has the responsibility for repairing or replacing the >>>>>>>> crossing. In the meantime, traffic is routed through the adjoining >>>>>>>> neighborhoods. >>>>>>>> I went out look at the closure, and decided it was a bit >>>>>>>> interesting. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/8/30/shaky-bridge >>>>>>>> K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom >>>>>>>> Comments are vid and appreciated. >>>>>>>> >>> >>> >>> -- > > > > >-- >Science - Questions we may never find answers for. >Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Shaky Bridge
On 9/9/2019 09:00:21, Adam Montoya wrote: On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 8:45 PM John wrote: On 9/7/2019 21:02:09, P. J. Alling wrote: This could be fixed with signage. There's a low underpass on the former NY, NH, and Hartford, tracks where it crosses US1 in Madison CT, where tractor trailers used to regularly get their trailers either scalped or stuck. Signs were place at several locations to warn of the impending doom, and they seem to have worked. Hasn't been a stuck or wrecked trailer at that location in several years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USu8vT_tfdw 11'8" is great. That compilation video is a bit outdated though. It doesn't include this beauty that was posted this year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvxDhgDjVCA All I can say is "WOW!" That's the farthest I've ever seen an 18 wheeler get stuck under there. Usually they tried to slly squeeze under there and got stuck**. Gregson is a one way street & they get down to where the bridge is and can't make the tight turn left onto W. Peabody St. One of the problems is commercial traffic from Main St turns south on Gregson to get out of downtown, and there are no signs on Main St. warning drivers about the low bridge BEFORE they make the turn. https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0001272,-78.9092094,3a,75y,228.86h,84.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZgxawPsag0UY-fpmd-eFlw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 But that guy was not only ignoring the bridge warnings, he was FLYING. The speed limit through there is only 25 mph (40 kmph) and he had to have been doing at least 50. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Shaky Bridge
I've actually seen them try that on the 11'8" bridge in the video. Where I went to High School is about 3 blocks north of where that bridge is located. My father's office was about 4 blocks south of there. Before I had a driver's license, I'd walk down to his office every day after school to catch a ride home with him when he got off work. I walked up Gregson Street almost every day on the way to my father's office (actually to where his car was parked so I could dump off my books). One time, an 18 wheeler got stuck under there & they were trying to grease the roof back it out without tearing it up any more than it already was, but it wasn't working. Finally, some smart-Alec kid asked them why they didn't just let the air out of the trailer tires to lower the trailer. I wish I could say I was that smart-Alec kid, but I'm not that smart. On 9/8/2019 13:23:41, Ken Waller wrote: Maybe they should try lubrication ! -Original Message- From: John Subject: Re: PESO: Shaky Bridge On 9/7/2019 21:02:09, P. J. Alling wrote: This could be fixed with signage. There's a low underpass on the former NY, NH, and Hartford, tracks where it crosses US1 in Madison CT, where tractor trailers used to regularly get their trailers either scalped or stuck. Signs were place at several locations to warn of the impending doom, and they seem to have worked. Hasn't been a stuck or wrecked trailer at that location in several years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USu8vT_tfdw On 8/30/2019 9:28 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: One would think so, but until three weeks ago, this one-lane wooden bridge was used daily by commuters as a link between two US highways. The biggest problem was the fact that trucks would come to the bridge based on their GPS directions, and them have difficulty turning around when they realized they could not cross the bridge. This could cause huge back-ups. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 7:23 AM Paul Stenquist wrote: A pretty scene, but obviously of another era. Paul On Aug 30, 2019, at 1:11 AM, Alan C wrote: The sides don't look to bad. I suppose the real problem lies in the load bearing surface? Municipalities can't afford to take risks. Alan C On 30-Aug-19 06:23 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: For years there has been an old wooden one-lane bridge in our town over the NJ TRANSIT tracks. A few weeks ago, the New Jersey Department of Transportation suddenly announced the bridge is in poor condition, requiring an emergency closure. NJT, the state and other entities are arguing over who has the responsibility for repairing or replacing the crossing. In the meantime, traffic is routed through the adjoining neighborhoods. I went out look at the closure, and decided it was a bit interesting. http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/8/30/shaky-bridge K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom Comments are vid and appreciated. -- -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Shaky Bridge
On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 8:45 PM John wrote: > On 9/7/2019 21:02:09, P. J. Alling wrote: > > This could be fixed with signage. There's a low underpass on the former > NY, NH, > > and Hartford, tracks where it crosses US1 in Madison CT, where tractor > trailers > > used to regularly get their trailers either scalped or stuck. Signs > were place > > at several locations to warn of the impending doom, and they seem to > have > > worked. Hasn't been a stuck or wrecked trailer at that location in > several years. > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USu8vT_tfdw > > > > 11'8" is great. That compilation video is a bit outdated though. It doesn't include this beauty that was posted this year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvxDhgDjVCA -- http://www.mountainfort.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Shaky Bridge
Maybe they should try lubrication ! -Original Message- >From: John >Subject: Re: PESO: Shaky Bridge > >On 9/7/2019 21:02:09, P. J. Alling wrote: >> This could be fixed with signage. There's a low underpass on the former NY, >> NH, >> and Hartford, tracks where it crosses US1 in Madison CT, where tractor >> trailers >> used to regularly get their trailers either scalped or stuck. Signs were >> place >> at several locations to warn of the impending doom, and they seem to have >> worked. Hasn't been a stuck or wrecked trailer at that location in several >> years. >> > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USu8vT_tfdw > > >> On 8/30/2019 9:28 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >>> One would think so, but until three weeks ago, this one-lane wooden bridge >>> was used daily by commuters as a link between two US highways. >>> The biggest problem was the fact that trucks would come to the bridge based >>> on their GPS directions, and them have difficulty turning around when they >>> realized they could not cross the bridge. This could cause huge back-ups. >>> >>> Dan Matyola >>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 7:23 AM Paul Stenquist >>> wrote: >>> >>>> A pretty scene, but obviously of another era. >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>>> On Aug 30, 2019, at 1:11 AM, Alan C wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The sides don't look to bad. I suppose the real problem lies in the load >>>> bearing surface? Municipalities can't afford to take risks. >>>>> Alan C >>>>> >>>>>> On 30-Aug-19 06:23 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >>>>>> For years there has been an old wooden one-lane bridge in our town over >>>> the >>>>>> NJ TRANSIT tracks. A few weeks ago, the New Jersey Department of >>>>>> Transportation suddenly announced the bridge is in poor condition, >>>>>> requiring an emergency closure. NJT, the state and other entities are >>>>>> arguing over who has the responsibility for repairing or replacing the >>>>>> crossing. In the meantime, traffic is routed through the adjoining >>>>>> neighborhoods. >>>>>> I went out look at the closure, and decided it was a bit interesting. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/8/30/shaky-bridge >>>>>> K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom >>>>>> Comments are vid and appreciated. >>>>>> > > >-- >Science - Questions we may never find answers for. >Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Shaky Bridge
Signage only works if it’s read and obeyed ! -Original Message- >From: "P. J. Alling" >Subject: Re: PESO: Shaky Bridge > >This could be fixed with signage. There's a low underpass on the former >NY, NH, and Hartford, tracks where it crosses US1 in Madison CT, where >tractor trailers used to regularly get their trailers either scalped or >stuck. Signs were place at several locations to warn of the impending >doom, and they seem to have worked. Hasn't been a stuck or wrecked >trailer at that location in several years. > >On 8/30/2019 9:28 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> One would think so, but until three weeks ago, this one-lane wooden bridge >> was used daily by commuters as a link between two US highways. >> The biggest problem was the fact that trucks would come to the bridge based >> on their GPS directions, and them have difficulty turning around when they >> realized they could not cross the bridge. This could cause huge back-ups. >> >> Dan Matyola >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 7:23 AM Paul Stenquist >> wrote: >> >>> A pretty scene, but obviously of another era. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>>> On Aug 30, 2019, at 1:11 AM, Alan C wrote: >>>> >>>> The sides don't look to bad. I suppose the real problem lies in the load >>> bearing surface? Municipalities can't afford to take risks. >>>> Alan C >>>> >>>>> On 30-Aug-19 06:23 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >>>>> For years there has been an old wooden one-lane bridge in our town over >>> the >>>>> NJ TRANSIT tracks. A few weeks ago, the New Jersey Department of >>>>> Transportation suddenly announced the bridge is in poor condition, >>>>> requiring an emergency closure. NJT, the state and other entities are >>>>> arguing over who has the responsibility for repairing or replacing the >>>>> crossing. In the meantime, traffic is routed through the adjoining >>>>> neighborhoods. >>>>> I went out look at the closure, and decided it was a bit interesting. >>>>> >>>>> >>> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/8/30/shaky-bridge >>>>> K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom >>>>> Comments are vid and appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Dan Matyola >>>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> PDML@pdml.net >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >-- >America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. >America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. > - P.J. O'Rourke > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Shaky Bridge
That is not the problem with our bridge. The Shaky Bridge goes OVER the railroad tracks, rather than under the bridge. the overhead height is unlimited, but the bridge is narrow, and the approaches are not straight. The limitations are the weight-bearing capacity of the tiny bridge and the fact that there is no room to turn entering and leaving the bridge. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 10:45 PM John wrote: > On 9/7/2019 21:02:09, P. J. Alling wrote: > > This could be fixed with signage. There's a low underpass on the former > NY, NH, > > and Hartford, tracks where it crosses US1 in Madison CT, where tractor > trailers > > used to regularly get their trailers either scalped or stuck. Signs > were place > > at several locations to warn of the impending doom, and they seem to > have > > worked. Hasn't been a stuck or wrecked trailer at that location in > several years. > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USu8vT_tfdw > > > > On 8/30/2019 9:28 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > >> One would think so, but until three weeks ago, this one-lane wooden > bridge > >> was used daily by commuters as a link between two US highways. > >> The biggest problem was the fact that trucks would come to the bridge > based > >> on their GPS directions, and them have difficulty turning around when > they > >> realized they could not cross the bridge. This could cause huge > back-ups. > >> > >> Dan Matyola > >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 7:23 AM Paul Stenquist > > >> wrote: > >> > >>> A pretty scene, but obviously of another era. > >>> > >>> Paul > >>> > On Aug 30, 2019, at 1:11 AM, Alan C wrote: > > The sides don't look to bad. I suppose the real problem lies in the > load > >>> bearing surface? Municipalities can't afford to take risks. > Alan C > > > On 30-Aug-19 06:23 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > For years there has been an old wooden one-lane bridge in our town > over > >>> the > > NJ TRANSIT tracks. A few weeks ago, the New Jersey Department of > > Transportation suddenly announced the bridge is in poor condition, > > requiring an emergency closure. NJT, the state and other entities are > > arguing over who has the responsibility for repairing or replacing > the > > crossing. In the meantime, traffic is routed through the adjoining > > neighborhoods. > > I went out look at the closure, and decided it was a bit > interesting. > > > > > >>> > http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/8/30/shaky-bridge > > K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom > > Comments are vid and appreciated. > > > > > -- > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > Religion - Answers we must never question. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Shaky Bridge
Am 08.09.19 um 03:02 schrieb P. J. Alling: This could be fixed with signage. There's a low underpass on the former NY, NH, and Hartford, tracks where it crosses US1 in Madison CT, where tractor trailers used to regularly get their trailers either scalped or stuck. Signs were place at several locations to warn of the impending doom, and they seem to have worked. So, you appear to have more sensible truck drivers or they at least can read. We have here in Cologne what the locals call the "idiots' bridge" which regularly gets hit by trucks, The council have tried it all: signs, blinking lights, the lot. Has alleviated the problem somewhat but there is still the occasional champion who gets stuck. Next, we've had to restrict one of the two motorway bridges across the Rhine to trucks above 3.5 tons for the time it takes to build a new one. Signs were happily ignored, mainly by foreign drivers. So where cameras to fine the offenders which were ignored again because perpetrators were out of the country long before they could be caught. In the end, they had to install weighbridges and automatic barriers. Even those are sometimes crashed through but at least they sort out most of them now. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Shaky Bridge
On 9/7/2019 21:02:09, P. J. Alling wrote: This could be fixed with signage. There's a low underpass on the former NY, NH, and Hartford, tracks where it crosses US1 in Madison CT, where tractor trailers used to regularly get their trailers either scalped or stuck. Signs were place at several locations to warn of the impending doom, and they seem to have worked. Hasn't been a stuck or wrecked trailer at that location in several years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USu8vT_tfdw On 8/30/2019 9:28 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: One would think so, but until three weeks ago, this one-lane wooden bridge was used daily by commuters as a link between two US highways. The biggest problem was the fact that trucks would come to the bridge based on their GPS directions, and them have difficulty turning around when they realized they could not cross the bridge. This could cause huge back-ups. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 7:23 AM Paul Stenquist wrote: A pretty scene, but obviously of another era. Paul On Aug 30, 2019, at 1:11 AM, Alan C wrote: The sides don't look to bad. I suppose the real problem lies in the load bearing surface? Municipalities can't afford to take risks. Alan C On 30-Aug-19 06:23 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: For years there has been an old wooden one-lane bridge in our town over the NJ TRANSIT tracks. A few weeks ago, the New Jersey Department of Transportation suddenly announced the bridge is in poor condition, requiring an emergency closure. NJT, the state and other entities are arguing over who has the responsibility for repairing or replacing the crossing. In the meantime, traffic is routed through the adjoining neighborhoods. I went out look at the closure, and decided it was a bit interesting. http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/8/30/shaky-bridge K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom Comments are vid and appreciated. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Shaky Bridge
We've already tried that: http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/9/7/closed Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 9:02 PM P. J. Alling wrote: > This could be fixed with signage. There's a low underpass on the former > NY, NH, and Hartford, tracks where it crosses US1 in Madison CT, where > tractor trailers used to regularly get their trailers either scalped or > stuck. Signs were place at several locations to warn of the impending > doom, and they seem to have worked. Hasn't been a stuck or wrecked > trailer at that location in several years. > > On 8/30/2019 9:28 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > One would think so, but until three weeks ago, this one-lane wooden > bridge > > was used daily by commuters as a link between two US highways. > > The biggest problem was the fact that trucks would come to the bridge > based > > on their GPS directions, and them have difficulty turning around when > they > > realized they could not cross the bridge. This could cause huge > back-ups. > > > > Dan Matyola > > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 7:23 AM Paul Stenquist > > wrote: > > > >> A pretty scene, but obviously of another era. > >> > >> Paul > >> > >>> On Aug 30, 2019, at 1:11 AM, Alan C wrote: > >>> > >>> The sides don't look to bad. I suppose the real problem lies in the > load > >> bearing surface? Municipalities can't afford to take risks. > >>> Alan C > >>> > On 30-Aug-19 06:23 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > For years there has been an old wooden one-lane bridge in our town > over > >> the > NJ TRANSIT tracks. A few weeks ago, the New Jersey Department of > Transportation suddenly announced the bridge is in poor condition, > requiring an emergency closure. NJT, the state and other entities are > arguing over who has the responsibility for repairing or replacing the > crossing. In the meantime, traffic is routed through the adjoining > neighborhoods. > I went out look at the closure, and decided it was a bit > interesting. > > > >> > http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/8/30/shaky-bridge > K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom > Comments are vid and appreciated. > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > >>> > >>> -- > >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>> PDML@pdml.net > >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > >> follow the directions. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > >> follow the directions. > >> > -- > America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. > America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. > - P.J. O'Rourke > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Shaky Bridge
This could be fixed with signage. There's a low underpass on the former NY, NH, and Hartford, tracks where it crosses US1 in Madison CT, where tractor trailers used to regularly get their trailers either scalped or stuck. Signs were place at several locations to warn of the impending doom, and they seem to have worked. Hasn't been a stuck or wrecked trailer at that location in several years. On 8/30/2019 9:28 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: One would think so, but until three weeks ago, this one-lane wooden bridge was used daily by commuters as a link between two US highways. The biggest problem was the fact that trucks would come to the bridge based on their GPS directions, and them have difficulty turning around when they realized they could not cross the bridge. This could cause huge back-ups. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 7:23 AM Paul Stenquist wrote: A pretty scene, but obviously of another era. Paul On Aug 30, 2019, at 1:11 AM, Alan C wrote: The sides don't look to bad. I suppose the real problem lies in the load bearing surface? Municipalities can't afford to take risks. Alan C On 30-Aug-19 06:23 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: For years there has been an old wooden one-lane bridge in our town over the NJ TRANSIT tracks. A few weeks ago, the New Jersey Department of Transportation suddenly announced the bridge is in poor condition, requiring an emergency closure. NJT, the state and other entities are arguing over who has the responsibility for repairing or replacing the crossing. In the meantime, traffic is routed through the adjoining neighborhoods. I went out look at the closure, and decided it was a bit interesting. http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/8/30/shaky-bridge K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom Comments are vid and appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Shaky Bridge
Here’s the alternative to closing it: https://nypost.com/2019/07/23/bridge-collapses-under-overweight-truck-carrying-tons-of-beans/ Even all the intestinal gas couldn’t have lightened the load enough… Rick > On Aug 30, 2019, at 12:23 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > For years there has been an old wooden one-lane bridge in our town over the > NJ TRANSIT tracks. A few weeks ago, the New Jersey Department of > Transportation suddenly announced the bridge is in poor condition, > requiring an emergency closure. NJT, the state and other entities are > arguing over who has the responsibility for repairing or replacing the > crossing. In the meantime, traffic is routed through the adjoining > neighborhoods. > > I went out look at the closure, and decided it was a bit interesting. > > http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/8/30/shaky-bridge > K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom > Comments are vid and appreciated. > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, John. The bridge was build when the tracks below belonged to the New Jersey Central Railroad Co. When that entity went bankrupt, the tracks were given to NJ Transit, but the latter never took ownership of the bridge. As a result, maintenance has been neglected for decades, as the state, the township, NJ Transit and the Department of transportation argue over who should pay for replacing the bridge. Every day, two commuter trains pass under the bridge is each direction, in addition to occasional freight trains. Most trains on the Raritan Valley line no longer come this far, but turn around in Raritan Borough, a few miles to the east. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 9:27 AM John wrote: > I believe New Jersey has a certain history regarding bridge closures 8^) > > This one looks like it maybe predates the New Jersey Department of > Transportation. I suspect it was built back before the automobile replaced > the > horse & carriage; perfectly adequate in its day, but no match for modern > road > behemoths. > > Nicely documented. Probably end up in the local library's historical > (hysterical?) photos file a hundred years from now. > > On 8/30/2019 04:21:47, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > > Am 30.08.19 um 06:23 schrieb Daniel J. Matyola: > > > >> I went out look at the closure, and decided it was a bit interesting. > > > > Looks like some makeshift solution after the last one came down... > > > > Ralf > > > > > > -- > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > Religion - Answers we must never question. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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One would think so, but until three weeks ago, this one-lane wooden bridge was used daily by commuters as a link between two US highways. The biggest problem was the fact that trucks would come to the bridge based on their GPS directions, and them have difficulty turning around when they realized they could not cross the bridge. This could cause huge back-ups. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 7:23 AM Paul Stenquist wrote: > A pretty scene, but obviously of another era. > > Paul > > > On Aug 30, 2019, at 1:11 AM, Alan C wrote: > > > > The sides don't look to bad. I suppose the real problem lies in the load > bearing surface? Municipalities can't afford to take risks. > > > > Alan C > > > >> On 30-Aug-19 06:23 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > >> For years there has been an old wooden one-lane bridge in our town over > the > >> NJ TRANSIT tracks. A few weeks ago, the New Jersey Department of > >> Transportation suddenly announced the bridge is in poor condition, > >> requiring an emergency closure. NJT, the state and other entities are > >> arguing over who has the responsibility for repairing or replacing the > >> crossing. In the meantime, traffic is routed through the adjoining > >> neighborhoods. > >> I went out look at the closure, and decided it was a bit interesting. > >> > >> > http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/8/30/shaky-bridge > >> K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom > >> Comments are vid and appreciated. > >> > >> Dan Matyola > >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I believe New Jersey has a certain history regarding bridge closures 8^) This one looks like it maybe predates the New Jersey Department of Transportation. I suspect it was built back before the automobile replaced the horse & carriage; perfectly adequate in its day, but no match for modern road behemoths. Nicely documented. Probably end up in the local library's historical (hysterical?) photos file a hundred years from now. On 8/30/2019 04:21:47, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 30.08.19 um 06:23 schrieb Daniel J. Matyola: I went out look at the closure, and decided it was a bit interesting. Looks like some makeshift solution after the last one came down... Ralf -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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A pretty scene, but obviously of another era. Paul > On Aug 30, 2019, at 1:11 AM, Alan C wrote: > > The sides don't look to bad. I suppose the real problem lies in the load > bearing surface? Municipalities can't afford to take risks. > > Alan C > >> On 30-Aug-19 06:23 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> For years there has been an old wooden one-lane bridge in our town over the >> NJ TRANSIT tracks. A few weeks ago, the New Jersey Department of >> Transportation suddenly announced the bridge is in poor condition, >> requiring an emergency closure. NJT, the state and other entities are >> arguing over who has the responsibility for repairing or replacing the >> crossing. In the meantime, traffic is routed through the adjoining >> neighborhoods. >> I went out look at the closure, and decided it was a bit interesting. >> >> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/8/30/shaky-bridge >> K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom >> Comments are vid and appreciated. >> >> Dan Matyola >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Am 30.08.19 um 06:23 schrieb Daniel J. Matyola: I went out look at the closure, and decided it was a bit interesting. Looks like some makeshift solution after the last one came down... Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The sides don't look to bad. I suppose the real problem lies in the load bearing surface? Municipalities can't afford to take risks. Alan C On 30-Aug-19 06:23 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: For years there has been an old wooden one-lane bridge in our town over the NJ TRANSIT tracks. A few weeks ago, the New Jersey Department of Transportation suddenly announced the bridge is in poor condition, requiring an emergency closure. NJT, the state and other entities are arguing over who has the responsibility for repairing or replacing the crossing. In the meantime, traffic is routed through the adjoining neighborhoods. I went out look at the closure, and decided it was a bit interesting. http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/8/30/shaky-bridge K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom Comments are vid and appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Shaky Bridge
For years there has been an old wooden one-lane bridge in our town over the NJ TRANSIT tracks. A few weeks ago, the New Jersey Department of Transportation suddenly announced the bridge is in poor condition, requiring an emergency closure. NJT, the state and other entities are arguing over who has the responsibility for repairing or replacing the crossing. In the meantime, traffic is routed through the adjoining neighborhoods. I went out look at the closure, and decided it was a bit interesting. http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/8/30/shaky-bridge K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom Comments are vid and appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.