Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-17 Thread Jostein Øksne
On 11/17/06, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Photography Of Offensive Purpose on you Cotty.

Langemann is more suited for that sort of thing, isn't it?
Could be a bit on the rude side, of course...

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Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-17 Thread Cotty
On 17/11/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Photography Of Offensive Purpose on you Cotty. Accidentally you ruined my
>punch line. 

Being What A Hapless And Hairy Arsed Hedonist Amongst Heels And Haggards
Appeals

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RE: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-16 Thread Tim Øsleby
Photography Of Offensive Purpose on you Cotty. Accidentally you ruined my
punch line. 


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On 16/11/06, Jostein Øksne, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Lille petter spellemann, more likely.

Both wrong.

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Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/11/06, Jostein Øksne, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Lille petter spellemann, more likely.

Both wrong.

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Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-16 Thread Michael Abbott
I don't really like HDR stuff, it looks wrong to me. Audio people
complain about much the same thing: the over-use of compression, which
lets you hear everything, even in the car, but is tiring on the ear.

I wonder how much is just because we got used to how film renders
light... pictures like these two
http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=46433&ref=author&refid=999
http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=41626&ref=author&refid=999
would not have surprised painters living before photography any more
than photography did.

Most examples now over-use it for effect, but I can imagine that
milder versions will creep in slowly, as one more tool for better
contrast control in colour. With slides you had none, scanning print
film some, raw-processing more, this is the next step.

Michael



On 15/11/06, Jeff Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I actually like it.  Printed out on watercolor paper I bet it would look
> spectacular, but not as a photograph per say.  It makes the photo look
> more like a painting and less like a photo.
>
> Jeff


> >> - Original Message -----
> >> From: "Tim ?sleby"
> >> Subject: RE: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> BTW. I just saw an interesting, but terrible IMO, semi HDR picture.
> >>> http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44863&ref=author
> >>> The light looks surreal. Kind of funny effect, but tiresome to the
> >>> eye.
> >>>
> >>> There is a thumb below to the original. I'd like to hear some opinions
> >>> on
> >>> this.
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Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
I come down on the side of those who like this. It's a pretty  
picture. Perfect symmetry, wonderful light. Is it too perfect?  
Perhaps, but there's something interesting about that in itself.
Paul
On Nov 16, 2006, at 2:39 PM, Jostein Øksne wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
>
>  http://tinyurl.com/y46kuj
>
> I like it the way the HDR technique is used in this one. Sometimes
> even those newfangled digicams can't capture a scene as do the human
> eye and perception. :-)
>
>
> Then Tim Øsleby wrote:
>> BTW. I just saw an interesting, but terrible IMO, semi HDR picture.
>> http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44863&ref=author
>> The light looks surreal. Kind of funny effect, but tiresome to the  
>> eye.
>
> Terrible, yes. Interesting? -Not to me...:-(
> Makes it look like something created with 3D rendering
> softwareoftware. Maybe for a computer game. His other work is way over
> on the far side, but not surreal enough to be interesting imo.
>
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Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-16 Thread Jostein Øksne
Lille petter spellemann, more likely.

Jostein

On 11/16/06, Markus Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> slikkepott?
> Markus
>
> -Ursprungliche Nachricht-
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag von
> Tim Osleby
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. November 2006 14:36
> An: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> Betreff: RE: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)
>
>
> BTW. I just saw an interesting, but terrible IMO, semi HDR picture.
> http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44863&ref=author
> The light looks surreal. Kind of funny effect, but tiresome to the eye.
>
> There is a thumb below to the original. I'd like to hear some opinions on
> this.
>
>
>
> Tim
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Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-16 Thread Jostein Øksne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] posted

 http://tinyurl.com/y46kuj

I like it the way the HDR technique is used in this one. Sometimes
even those newfangled digicams can't capture a scene as do the human
eye and perception. :-)


Then Tim Øsleby wrote:
> BTW. I just saw an interesting, but terrible IMO, semi HDR picture.
> http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44863&ref=author
> The light looks surreal. Kind of funny effect, but tiresome to the eye.

Terrible, yes. Interesting? -Not to me...:-(
Makes it look like something created with 3D rendering
softwareoftware. Maybe for a computer game. His other work is way over
on the far side, but not surreal enough to be interesting imo.

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Re: PESO- merge to HDR

2006-11-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

> I've decided to really try to come to grips with the 32bit hdr function in 
> photoshop 
> CS2.  the tricky part is working the curve when converting back down to 16 
> bits.  
> It's very easy to get awful results and quite hard to get good results.
> 
> This was shot Sunday evening at Darling Harbour in Sydney.  From memory there 
> were about 7 exposures blended.  In hindsight, I should have taken a couple 
> more 
> further towards the underexposed side, but I'm still happy with the result.
> 
> Unfortunately, this is the largest size I can upload.
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/y46kuj
> 
> Comments welcome and if there's anyone out there with expertise with this 
> function, advice is definitely welcome.  :)

All I could say here is that it is one of these *very rare* examples 
when HDR picture does look absolutely realistic and quite beautiful as well.

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Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-15 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 16/11/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Indecisive Moments - when I think "How the hell am I going to
> photograph this?"...

Zactly!

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AW: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-15 Thread Markus Maurer
slikkepott?
Markus

-Ursprungliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag von
Tim Osleby
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. November 2006 14:36
An: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Betreff: RE: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)


BTW. I just saw an interesting, but terrible IMO, semi HDR picture. 
http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44863&ref=author
The light looks surreal. Kind of funny effect, but tiresome to the eye.

There is a thumb below to the original. I'd like to hear some opinions on
this.



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RE: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-15 Thread Bob W
The Indecisive Moments - when I think "How the hell am I going to
photograph this?"...

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> On 16/11/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So much for The Decisive Moment.
> 
> It's for those little times when there never will be a decisive
> moment. Like the breathtaking gorge that's dark and drab on an
> overcast day or always in significant shadow on a sunny day.
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RE: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-15 Thread Tim Øsleby
I saw that photo too. But I picked a more neutral one as an example. An
example of HDR effects in general, not on his work. 

Maybe making an example was a mistake. 


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On 16/11/06, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> BTW. I just saw an interesting, but terrible IMO, semi HDR picture.
> http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44863&ref=author
> The light looks surreal. Kind of funny effect, but tiresome to the eye.
>
> There is a thumb below to the original. I'd like to hear some opinions on
> this.

This guy is using HDR to exaggerate the lighting for effect, I don't
believe it's meant to be photo-realistic in this instance. See some of
his other work:

http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=45291&ref=author&refid=999

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Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-15 Thread John Coyle
I much prefer Version 2 - seems like more natural lighting, the other one 
looks as if someone has walked around with a flash and illuminated the scene 
as they went, resulting  in an almost cartoon effect.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
- Original Message - 
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Subject: RE: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)


> BTW. I just saw an interesting, but terrible IMO, semi HDR picture.
> http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44863&ref=author
> The light looks surreal. Kind of funny effect, but tiresome to the eye.
>
> There is a thumb below to the original. I'd like to hear some opinions on
> this.
>
>
>
> Tim
> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: 14. november 2006 02:28
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> Subject: PESO- merge to HDR
>
> I've decided to really try to come to grips with the 32bit hdr function in
> photoshop
> CS2.  the tricky part is working the curve when converting back down to 16
> bits.
> It's very easy to get awful results and quite hard to get good results.
>
> This was shot Sunday evening at Darling Harbour in Sydney.  From memory
> there
> were about 7 exposures blended.  In hindsight, I should have taken a 
> couple
> more
> further towards the underexposed side, but I'm still happy with the 
> result.
>
> Unfortunately, this is the largest size I can upload.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/y46kuj
>
> Comments welcome and if there's anyone out there with expertise with this
> function, advice is definitely welcome.  :)
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Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-15 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 16/11/06, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> BTW. I just saw an interesting, but terrible IMO, semi HDR picture.
> http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44863&ref=author
> The light looks surreal. Kind of funny effect, but tiresome to the eye.
>
> There is a thumb below to the original. I'd like to hear some opinions on
> this.

This guy is using HDR to exaggerate the lighting for effect, I don't
believe it's meant to be photo-realistic in this instance. See some of
his other work:

http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=45291&ref=author&refid=999

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Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-15 Thread Adam Maas
The Decisive Moment is mostly irrelevant for the sort of work that HDR is 
pratical with, which is architecture and landscape work.

-Adam


Bob W wrote:
> So much for The Decisive Moment.
> 
> --
>  Bob
>  
> 
> 
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>>Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: 15 November 2006 21:24
>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>Subject: RE: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)
>>
>>High Dynamic Range.  You capture multiple shots, identical 
>>apart from shutter 
>>speed.  The shutter speed is varied to give a range of 
>>exposures from 1-2 stops 
>>under to 1-2 stops over in 1 stop increments (although I 
>>prefer 1/2 stop 
>>increments).  These are then blended in photoshop and the 
>>result is a 32 bit file 
>>which can't be displayed or printed as the dynamic range is 
>>too great for the 
>>average monitor or print media.
>>
>>Converting the file back into a 16 bit file allows you to 
>>tweak it to show hightlight 
>>and shado detail, but the adjustments are quite difficult to 
>>do if you want to keep it 
>>looking relatively natural.
>>
>>Quoting Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>
>>>what is HDR?
>>>
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>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>>>-Original Message-
>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>>>>Behalf Of Don Williams
>>>>Sent: 15 November 2006 15:20
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>>>>Subject: Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)
>>>>
>>>>Then my taste has to be in my mouth. I think the colours are 
>>>>incredible 
>>>>and the lighting amazing. Of course it isn't "real" but 
>>
>>that's what
>>
>>>>makes it so interesting -- to me. There are paintings on some
>>>
>>>Vatican 
>>>
>>>>walls that have a similar range of colour and intensity. I'll
> 
> try
> 
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>>find one or two and post them to illustrate what I mean. I think
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>picture is great.
>>>>
>>>>D
>>>>
>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>>BTW. I just saw an interesting, but terrible IMO, semi HDR
>>>
>>>picture.
>>>
>>>>>>http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44863&ref=author
>>>>>>The light looks surreal. Kind of funny effect, but tiresome
> 
> to
> 
>>>the 
>>>
>>>>>>eye.
>>>>>>
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RE: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-15 Thread jkmess
High Dynamic Range.  You capture multiple shots, identical apart from shutter 
speed.  The shutter speed is varied to give a range of exposures from 1-2 stops 
under to 1-2 stops over in 1 stop increments (although I prefer 1/2 stop 
increments).  These are then blended in photoshop and the result is a 32 bit 
file 
which can't be displayed or printed as the dynamic range is too great for the 
average monitor or print media.

Converting the file back into a 16 bit file allows you to tweak it to show 
hightlight 
and shado detail, but the adjustments are quite difficult to do if you want to 
keep it 
looking relatively natural.

Quoting Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> what is HDR?
> 
> --
> Cheers,
>  Bob
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> > Behalf Of Don Williams
> > Sent: 15 November 2006 15:20
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > Subject: Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)
> > 
> > Then my taste has to be in my mouth. I think the colours are 
> > incredible 
> > and the lighting amazing. Of course it isn't "real" but that's what
> 
> > makes it so interesting -- to me. There are paintings on some
> Vatican 
> > walls that have a similar range of colour and intensity. I'll try
> to
> 
> > find one or two and post them to illustrate what I mean. I think
> the
> 
> > picture is great.
> > 
> > D
> > 
> 
> > >   
> > >> BTW. I just saw an interesting, but terrible IMO, semi HDR
> picture.
> > >> http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44863&ref=author
> > >> The light looks surreal. Kind of funny effect, but tiresome to
> the 
> > >> eye.
> > >>
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Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-15 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 16/11/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So much for The Decisive Moment.

It's for those little times when there never will be a decisive
moment. Like the breathtaking gorge that's dark and drab on an
overcast day or always in significant shadow on a sunny day.

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RE: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-15 Thread Bob W
So much for The Decisive Moment.

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> 
> High Dynamic Range.  You capture multiple shots, identical 
> apart from shutter 
> speed.  The shutter speed is varied to give a range of 
> exposures from 1-2 stops 
> under to 1-2 stops over in 1 stop increments (although I 
> prefer 1/2 stop 
> increments).  These are then blended in photoshop and the 
> result is a 32 bit file 
> which can't be displayed or printed as the dynamic range is 
> too great for the 
> average monitor or print media.
> 
> Converting the file back into a 16 bit file allows you to 
> tweak it to show hightlight 
> and shado detail, but the adjustments are quite difficult to 
> do if you want to keep it 
> looking relatively natural.
> 
> Quoting Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > what is HDR?
> > 
> > --
> > Cheers,
> >  Bob
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> > > Behalf Of Don Williams
> > > Sent: 15 November 2006 15:20
> > > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > > Subject: Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)
> > > 
> > > Then my taste has to be in my mouth. I think the colours are 
> > > incredible 
> > > and the lighting amazing. Of course it isn't "real" but 
> that's what
> > 
> > > makes it so interesting -- to me. There are paintings on some
> > Vatican 
> > > walls that have a similar range of colour and intensity. I'll
try
> > to
> > 
> > > find one or two and post them to illustrate what I mean. I think
> > the
> > 
> > > picture is great.
> > > 
> > > D
> > > 
> > 
> > > >   
> > > >> BTW. I just saw an interesting, but terrible IMO, semi HDR
> > picture.
> > > >> http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44863&ref=author
> > > >> The light looks surreal. Kind of funny effect, but tiresome
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Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-15 Thread Adam Maas
High Dynamic Range. A method of combining multiple exposures to increase the 
dynamic range of an image. Often abused, rarely used well. 

-Adam


Bob W wrote:
> what is HDR?
> 
> --
> Cheers,
>  Bob
> 
> 
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>>Behalf Of Don Williams
>>Sent: 15 November 2006 15:20
>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>Subject: Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)
>>
>>Then my taste has to be in my mouth. I think the colours are 
>>incredible 
>>and the lighting amazing. Of course it isn't "real" but that's what 
>>makes it so interesting -- to me. There are paintings on some
> 
> Vatican 
> 
>>walls that have a similar range of colour and intensity. I'll try to
> 
> 
>>find one or two and post them to illustrate what I mean. I think the
> 
> 
>>picture is great.
>>
>>D
>>
> 
> 
>>>  
>>>
>>>>BTW. I just saw an interesting, but terrible IMO, semi HDR
> 
> picture.
> 
>>>>http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44863&ref=author
>>>>The light looks surreal. Kind of funny effect, but tiresome to
> 
> the 
> 
>>>>eye.
>>>>
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RE: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-15 Thread Bob W
what is HDR?

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 Bob

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Don Williams
> Sent: 15 November 2006 15:20
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)
> 
> Then my taste has to be in my mouth. I think the colours are 
> incredible 
> and the lighting amazing. Of course it isn't "real" but that's what 
> makes it so interesting -- to me. There are paintings on some
Vatican 
> walls that have a similar range of colour and intensity. I'll try to

> find one or two and post them to illustrate what I mean. I think the

> picture is great.
> 
> D
> 

> >   
> >> BTW. I just saw an interesting, but terrible IMO, semi HDR
picture.
> >> http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44863&ref=author
> >> The light looks surreal. Kind of funny effect, but tiresome to
the 
> >> eye.
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Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-15 Thread Adam Maas
It's certainly better than most HDR stuff I see, no obvious halos on this one.

-Adam


Jeff Post wrote:
> I actually like it.  Printed out on watercolor paper I bet it would look 
> spectacular, but not as a photograph per say.  It makes the photo look 
> more like a painting and less like a photo. 
> 
> Jeff
> 
>>--
>>
>>Message: 1
>>Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:20:09 +0200
>>From: Don Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)
>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>>
>>Then my taste has to be in my mouth. I think the colours are incredible 
>>and the lighting amazing. Of course it isn't "real" but that's what 
>>makes it so interesting -- to me. There are paintings on some Vatican 
>>walls that have a similar range of colour and intensity. I'll try to 
>>find one or two and post them to illustrate what I mean. I think the 
>>picture is great.
>>
>>D
>>
>>Tim ?sleby wrote:
>>  
>>
>>>How about "Photography Of Offensive Purpose"?
>>>We should both wash our mouth now, shame on us.
>>>
>>>I was holding back because I didn't want to disrespect the photographer. He
>>>is an *ist user, and a nice guy ;-)
>>>
>>>What struck me, is that there is a thin line between HDR used for a
>>>photographic purpose, and where it is just a bad taste effect. 
>>>
>>>
>>>Tim
>>>Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
>>> 
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>>>William Robb
>>>Sent: 15. november 2006 14:56
>>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>>Subject: Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)
>>>
>>>
>>>- Original Message - 
>>>From: "Tim ?sleby"
>>>Subject: RE: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>>>BTW. I just saw an interesting, but terrible IMO, semi HDR picture.
>>>>http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44863&ref=author
>>>>The light looks surreal. Kind of funny effect, but tiresome to the 
>>>>eye.
>>>>
>>>>There is a thumb below to the original. I'd like to hear some opinions 
>>>>on
>>>>this.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>
>>>Fred Picker would have called it a
>>>"Computer ReAdjusted Picture".
>>>
>>>William Robb 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>
>>
>>  
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PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-15 Thread Jeff Post
I actually like it.  Printed out on watercolor paper I bet it would look 
spectacular, but not as a photograph per say.  It makes the photo look 
more like a painting and less like a photo. 

Jeff
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>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:20:09 +0200
> From: Don Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
> Then my taste has to be in my mouth. I think the colours are incredible 
> and the lighting amazing. Of course it isn't "real" but that's what 
> makes it so interesting -- to me. There are paintings on some Vatican 
> walls that have a similar range of colour and intensity. I'll try to 
> find one or two and post them to illustrate what I mean. I think the 
> picture is great.
>
> D
>
> Tim ?sleby wrote:
>   
>> How about "Photography Of Offensive Purpose"?
>> We should both wash our mouth now, shame on us.
>>
>> I was holding back because I didn't want to disrespect the photographer. He
>> is an *ist user, and a nice guy ;-)
>>
>> What struck me, is that there is a thin line between HDR used for a
>> photographic purpose, and where it is just a bad taste effect. 
>>
>>
>> Tim
>> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
>>  
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> William Robb
>> Sent: 15. november 2006 14:56
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Tim ?sleby"
>> Subject: RE: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> BTW. I just saw an interesting, but terrible IMO, semi HDR picture.
>>> http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44863&ref=author
>>> The light looks surreal. Kind of funny effect, but tiresome to the 
>>> eye.
>>>
>>> There is a thumb below to the original. I'd like to hear some opinions 
>>> on
>>> this.
>>> 
>>>   
>> Fred Picker would have called it a
>> "Computer ReAdjusted Picture".
>>
>> William Robb 
>>
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
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Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-15 Thread Don Williams
Then my taste has to be in my mouth. I think the colours are incredible 
and the lighting amazing. Of course it isn't "real" but that's what 
makes it so interesting -- to me. There are paintings on some Vatican 
walls that have a similar range of colour and intensity. I'll try to 
find one or two and post them to illustrate what I mean. I think the 
picture is great.

D

Tim Øsleby wrote:
> How about "Photography Of Offensive Purpose"?
> We should both wash our mouth now, shame on us.
>
> I was holding back because I didn't want to disrespect the photographer. He
> is an *ist user, and a nice guy ;-)
>
> What struck me, is that there is a thin line between HDR used for a
> photographic purpose, and where it is just a bad taste effect. 
>
>
> Tim
> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
>  
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> William Robb
> Sent: 15. november 2006 14:56
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tim Øsleby"
> Subject: RE: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)
>
>
>   
>> BTW. I just saw an interesting, but terrible IMO, semi HDR picture.
>> http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44863&ref=author
>> The light looks surreal. Kind of funny effect, but tiresome to the 
>> eye.
>>
>> There is a thumb below to the original. I'd like to hear some opinions 
>> on
>> this.
>> 
>
> Fred Picker would have called it a
> "Computer ReAdjusted Picture".
>
> William Robb 
>
>
>
>   


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Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-15 Thread Kenneth Waller
Certainly is much different from the original image. Not sure I go for it or 
not. Probably would help to see the subject in person.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Øsleby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: RE: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)


> BTW. I just saw an interesting, but terrible IMO, semi HDR picture.
> http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44863&ref=author
> The light looks surreal. Kind of funny effect, but tiresome to the eye.
>
> There is a thumb below to the original. I'd like to hear some opinions on
> this.
>
>
>
> Tim
> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 14. november 2006 02:28
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: PESO- merge to HDR
>
> I've decided to really try to come to grips with the 32bit hdr function in
> photoshop
> CS2.  the tricky part is working the curve when converting back down to 16
> bits.
> It's very easy to get awful results and quite hard to get good results.
>
> This was shot Sunday evening at Darling Harbour in Sydney.  From memory
> there
> were about 7 exposures blended.  In hindsight, I should have taken a 
> couple
> more
> further towards the underexposed side, but I'm still happy with the 
> result.
>
> Unfortunately, this is the largest size I can upload.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/y46kuj
>
> Comments welcome and if there's anyone out there with expertise with this
> function, advice is definitely welcome.  :)
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RE: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-15 Thread Tim Øsleby
How about "Photography Of Offensive Purpose"?
We should both wash our mouth now, shame on us.

I was holding back because I didn't want to disrespect the photographer. He
is an *ist user, and a nice guy ;-)

What struck me, is that there is a thin line between HDR used for a
photographic purpose, and where it is just a bad taste effect. 


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
William Robb
Sent: 15. november 2006 14:56
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Subject: Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)


- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Øsleby"
Subject: RE: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)


> BTW. I just saw an interesting, but terrible IMO, semi HDR picture.
> http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44863&ref=author
> The light looks surreal. Kind of funny effect, but tiresome to the 
> eye.
>
> There is a thumb below to the original. I'd like to hear some opinions 
> on
> this.

Fred Picker would have called it a
"Computer ReAdjusted Picture".

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Re: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-15 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Øsleby"
Subject: RE: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)


> BTW. I just saw an interesting, but terrible IMO, semi HDR picture.
> http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44863&ref=author
> The light looks surreal. Kind of funny effect, but tiresome to the 
> eye.
>
> There is a thumb below to the original. I'd like to hear some opinions 
> on
> this.

Fred Picker would have called it a
"Computer ReAdjusted Picture".

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RE: PESO- merge to HDR

2006-11-15 Thread Tim Øsleby
I like the light and the comp. A pretty good photo.


Tim
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Subject: PESO- merge to HDR

I've decided to really try to come to grips with the 32bit hdr function in
photoshop 
CS2.  the tricky part is working the curve when converting back down to 16
bits.  
It's very easy to get awful results and quite hard to get good results.

This was shot Sunday evening at Darling Harbour in Sydney.  From memory
there 
were about 7 exposures blended.  In hindsight, I should have taken a couple
more 
further towards the underexposed side, but I'm still happy with the result.

Unfortunately, this is the largest size I can upload.

http://tinyurl.com/y46kuj

Comments welcome and if there's anyone out there with expertise with this 
function, advice is definitely welcome.  :)

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RE: PESO- merge to HDR (OT-Surreal phot)

2006-11-15 Thread Tim Øsleby
BTW. I just saw an interesting, but terrible IMO, semi HDR picture. 
http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44863&ref=author
The light looks surreal. Kind of funny effect, but tiresome to the eye.

There is a thumb below to the original. I'd like to hear some opinions on
this.



Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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Subject: PESO- merge to HDR

I've decided to really try to come to grips with the 32bit hdr function in
photoshop 
CS2.  the tricky part is working the curve when converting back down to 16
bits.  
It's very easy to get awful results and quite hard to get good results.

This was shot Sunday evening at Darling Harbour in Sydney.  From memory
there 
were about 7 exposures blended.  In hindsight, I should have taken a couple
more 
further towards the underexposed side, but I'm still happy with the result.

Unfortunately, this is the largest size I can upload.

http://tinyurl.com/y46kuj

Comments welcome and if there's anyone out there with expertise with this 
function, advice is definitely welcome.  :)

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PESO- merge to HDR

2006-11-13 Thread jkmess
I've decided to really try to come to grips with the 32bit hdr function in 
photoshop 
CS2.  the tricky part is working the curve when converting back down to 16 
bits.  
It's very easy to get awful results and quite hard to get good results.

This was shot Sunday evening at Darling Harbour in Sydney.  From memory there 
were about 7 exposures blended.  In hindsight, I should have taken a couple 
more 
further towards the underexposed side, but I'm still happy with the result.

Unfortunately, this is the largest size I can upload.

http://tinyurl.com/y46kuj

Comments welcome and if there's anyone out there with expertise with this 
function, advice is definitely welcome.  :)

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