RE: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-09 Thread Bob W
  My next bike will be wood composite:
 
  http://www.renovobikes.com/r4-pursuit/
 
 I think you want a bamboo bike:
 
 http://www.calfeedesign.com/bamboo.htm
 

I'm surprised it uses forks. I'd have thought chopsticks were more
appropriate.

Bob


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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-09 Thread Cotty

 I think you want a bamboo bike:

 http://www.calfeedesign.com/bamboo.htm

 I'm surprised it uses forks. I'd have thought chopsticks were more
 appropriate.

 You're right! I think we've been bamboo-zled...

 Wok he said.

 Puns are soy last year.

 I knew someone else would rice to the occasion.

Sure, but going against the grain.

I'll be hoisin a pint to you later.





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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-09 Thread Christian
Bamboo is nice especially with the hemp lugs but the Renovo 
wood-composite is just gorgeous.


Christian

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On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Christian Skofteland 
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My next bike will be wood composite:

http://www.renovobikes.com/r4-pursuit/


I think you want a bamboo bike:

http://www.calfeedesign.com/bamboo.htm



BTW, nice shot, frank.


Thanks, Christian, and thanks to everyone else who looked and
commented.  Beautiful girl with a beautiful bike - how could I go
wrong?

;-)

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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-09 Thread Cotty

 I think you want a bamboo bike:

 http://www.calfeedesign.com/bamboo.htm

I'm surprised it uses forks. I'd have thought chopsticks were more
appropriate.

You're right! I think we've been bamboo-zled...

Wok he said.




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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-09 Thread mike wilson

 Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: 
 
  I think you want a bamboo bike:
 
  http://www.calfeedesign.com/bamboo.htm
 
 I'm surprised it uses forks. I'd have thought chopsticks were more
 appropriate.
 
 You're right! I think we've been bamboo-zled...
 
 Wok he said.

Puns are soy last year.

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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-09 Thread Christian



I think you want a bamboo bike:

http://www.calfeedesign.com/bamboo.htm


I'm surprised it uses forks. I'd have thought chopsticks were 

more

appropriate.



You're right! I think we've been bamboo-zled...



Wok he said.



Puns are soy last year.


I knew someone else would rice to the occasion.


Sure, but going against the grain.



I'll be hoisin a pint to you later.


Tso predictable...

Christian



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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-09 Thread Larry Colen


On Mar 9, 2010, at 5:35 AM, mike wilson wrote:



 Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:



I think you want a bamboo bike:

http://www.calfeedesign.com/bamboo.htm


I'm surprised it uses forks. I'd have thought chopsticks were more
appropriate.


You're right! I think we've been bamboo-zled...


Wok he said.


Puns are soy last year.


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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-09 Thread mark
mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: 
 
  I think you want a bamboo bike:
 
  http://www.calfeedesign.com/bamboo.htm
 
 I'm surprised it uses forks. I'd have thought chopsticks were more
 appropriate.
 
 You're right! I think we've been bamboo-zled...
 
 Wok he said.

Puns are soy last year.

I knew someone else would rice to the occasion.

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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote:

  My next bike will be wood composite:
 
  http://www.renovobikes.com/r4-pursuit/
 
 I think you want a bamboo bike:
 
 http://www.calfeedesign.com/bamboo.htm

I'm surprised it uses forks. I'd have thought chopsticks were more
appropriate.

You're right! I think we've been bamboo-zled...


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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-09 Thread Bruce Walker

m...@robertstech.com wrote:

mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: 

I think you want a bamboo bike:

http://www.calfeedesign.com/bamboo.htm

I'm surprised it uses forks. I'd have thought chopsticks were more
appropriate.

You're right! I think we've been bamboo-zled...

Wok he said.

Puns are soy last year.


I knew someone else would rice to the occasion.


Sure, but going against the grain.

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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-08 Thread Tim Øsleby
She looks remarkably fit for coming directly from labour. Must be all
that cycling.

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2010/3/7 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com:
 One for the bike crowd.

 This weekend is Toronto's annual Bike Show.  I don't go any more
 because the cheap bargains are no longer anywhere to be seen.
 However, one can get some big ticket items at amazing prices if you
 get there early.  My room mate's girlfriend Christina got there early
 and bought this lovely Cervelo T3:

 http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2010/03/christinas-new-baby.html

 Aluminium frame, full Shimano Ultegra gruppo, it's light and
 beautiful.  She was happy to have her new baby's portrait taken before
 taking it out on its inaugural ride this morning.  It's now 7:30 pm
 and she's still not back.  Must be some ride!

 ;-)

 Taken with the *istD and Vivitar S1 f3.8 constant aperture 24-48mm.  I
 keep forgetting how lovely and sharp this lens is.  And almost
 distortion-free (this was taken at 24mm).

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

 cheers,
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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-08 Thread eckinator
2010/3/8 Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com:

 She looks remarkably fit for coming directly from labour. Must be all
 that cycling.

must be cruel for the baby, too - forced out into the cold to take mom
piggyback well past dusk... poor kid and look at her/his lean frame,
too ]=)

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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-08 Thread Christian Skofteland

On 3/7/2010 12:44 AM, frank theriault wrote:

There are some very nice alumimium bikes out there. It's not as sexy
as carbon fibre, not as familiar as steel, but for the price,
aluminium is a nice combination of stiffness and lightness.  Aluminium
has a bad reputation for harshness, but (like anything else), if
designed properly, aluminium frames can work very well.

That's not to say that it's superior to steel or carbon;  it's all
what the designer/framebuilder does with it, isn't it?  I love my
aluminium Fondriest trackbike!

   


My next bike will be wood composite:

http://www.renovobikes.com/r4-pursuit/

BTW, nice shot, frank.

Christian

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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-08 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/6/10, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
  
   http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2010/03/christinas-new-baby.html
  

 Nice shot, cute girl, nice bike even if I am somewhat biased against Aluminum.

  Just ordered a new bike myself. Duke's was nice enough to call up Kona
  and check if they had any leftover 2009 Honky Tonk's in my size as I
  don't like the 2010 versions (A nice steel road bike should not have
  cheapo brifters, Dura-Ace DT shifters are the better choice). Got
  lucky and they did, so I plunked down my cash and I should have my new
  bike next weekend.

Sweet!  I had no idea there were any production bikes anywhere being
shipped with down tube shifters.  Unfortunately, Shimano has
discontinued the 9-speed DT shifters and the new 10-speed shifters
don't have a friction option.  Double boo!

I'm working on my very first road bike at the moment and I managed
to snag one of the last few sets of the 9sp DT shifters Gnashbar had
in stock a while back.  She just needs wheels and rubber.

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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-08 Thread Bruce Walker

frank theriault wrote:

[...]   Steel frames last
forever if treated well. [...]


Amen to that.  My Dawes Galaxy touring bike is as nice a ride now as 
when I bought it new in 1973.  I had to completely strip it down and go 
over everything to clean and lube it a couple of years ago, and I've 
replaced the original steel pedals because of too much rust.


I was considering replacing it at one point, but after test riding 
what's out there I came to realize that I'd only be happy with one built 
just like it (and not aluminum) and that looks like $2K and up, so I'll 
stick with 'old Mr Dawes. :-)


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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-08 Thread P. J. Alling

The thought of passing a bicycle  G.

On 3/8/2010 9:09 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

She looks remarkably fit for coming directly from labour. Must be all
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2010/3/7 frank theriaultknarftheria...@gmail.com:
   

One for the bike crowd.

This weekend is Toronto's annual Bike Show.  I don't go any more
because the cheap bargains are no longer anywhere to be seen.
However, one can get some big ticket items at amazing prices if you
get there early.  My room mate's girlfriend Christina got there early
and bought this lovely Cervelo T3:

http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2010/03/christinas-new-baby.html

Aluminium frame, full Shimano Ultegra gruppo, it's light and
beautiful.  She was happy to have her new baby's portrait taken before
taking it out on its inaugural ride this morning.  It's now 7:30 pm
and she's still not back.  Must be some ride!

;-)

Taken with the *istD and Vivitar S1 f3.8 constant aperture 24-48mm.  I
keep forgetting how lovely and sharp this lens is.  And almost
distortion-free (this was taken at 24mm).

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-08 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Christian Skofteland pterali...@aim.com wrote:


 My next bike will be wood composite:

 http://www.renovobikes.com/r4-pursuit/

I think you want a bamboo bike:

http://www.calfeedesign.com/bamboo.htm


 BTW, nice shot, frank.

Thanks, Christian, and thanks to everyone else who looked and
commented.  Beautiful girl with a beautiful bike - how could I go
wrong?

;-)

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-07 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 12:35 AM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 7:38 PM, frank theriault
 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 snip  My room mate's girlfriend Christina got there early
 and bought this lovely Cervelo T3:

 http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2010/03/christinas-new-baby.html
 snip

 Correction:  The bike is a Cervelo S1.  The fork is model T3.

 Sorry for any confusion I may have caused.

Ah, I thought so.:-)

Very good shot Franks

Dave

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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-07 Thread David Savage
I'm read the below as; Blah blah blah Christina blah blah blah...

I do like the shot though.

:-)

DS

On 7 March 2010 08:38, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 One for the bike crowd.

 This weekend is Toronto's annual Bike Show.  I don't go any more
 because the cheap bargains are no longer anywhere to be seen.
 However, one can get some big ticket items at amazing prices if you
 get there early.  My room mate's girlfriend Christina got there early
 and bought this lovely Cervelo T3:

 http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2010/03/christinas-new-baby.html

 Aluminium frame, full Shimano Ultegra gruppo, it's light and
 beautiful.  She was happy to have her new baby's portrait taken before
 taking it out on its inaugural ride this morning.  It's now 7:30 pm
 and she's still not back.  Must be some ride!

 ;-)

 Taken with the *istD and Vivitar S1 f3.8 constant aperture 24-48mm.  I
 keep forgetting how lovely and sharp this lens is.  And almost
 distortion-free (this was taken at 24mm).

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

 cheers,
 frank

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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-07 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 2:33 AM, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote:
 What do you guys think about recumbents?
 I love mine: bacchetta giro

I've never ridden one so I can't comment.

I think for the type of city riding I do (especially for messengering)
they wouldn't be too practical.

I'd love to try one some day.

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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-07 Thread Stan Halpin
Back long ago and far away when I was doing major long-distance  
cycling, I knew several people who rode recumbents. I was never  
tempted. One issue for me is the visibility, both the more limited  
sight-line for the rider and the lower profile (literally and  
figuratively) when on the road. In normal road bikes I found I  
preferred shorter wheel base for the responsive handling (sports car  
vs. comfy full-size sedan) and I think the recumbent would be a large  
truck on this spectrum.


stan

On Mar 7, 2010, at 7:21 AM, frank theriault wrote:


On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 2:33 AM, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote:

What do you guys think about recumbents?
I love mine: bacchetta giro


I've never ridden one so I can't comment.

I think for the type of city riding I do (especially for messengering)
they wouldn't be too practical.

I'd love to try one some day.

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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-07 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 12:44 AM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:


 Nice shot, cute girl, nice bike even if I am somewhat biased against 
 Aluminum.

 There are some very nice alumimium bikes out there.  It's not as sexy
 as carbon fibre, not as familiar as steel, but for the price,
 aluminium is a nice combination of stiffness and lightness.  Aluminium
 has a bad reputation for harshness, but (like anything else), if
 designed properly, aluminium frames can work very well.

 That's not to say that it's superior to steel or carbon;  it's all
 what the designer/framebuilder does with it, isn't it?  I love my
 aluminium Fondriest trackbike!


Yes, Aluminum does do well for certain applications. But there's a
couple things I don't like about it, most due to my overall dislike of
stiff rides (as opposed to harsh rides, stiff is not harsh) and
longevity issues. Aluminum frames wear out as aluminum has a limited
fatigue life (unlike steel) and a compliant aluminum frame is more
susceptible to this than a stiff one. This is an issue for me as I
tend to keep my bikes long-term (My main ride is 12 years old and it
will still be in use after the Honky Tonk arrives) That said, for a
track bike or race bike where stiffness is a major win and limited
lifespan is not an issue, Aluminum does very well and provides a
lower-cost high performance alternative to Carbon (and without some of
the risks of Carbon)


 Just ordered a new bike myself. Duke's was nice enough to call up Kona
 and check if they had any leftover 2009 Honky Tonk's in my size as I
 don't like the 2010 versions (A nice steel road bike should not have
 cheapo brifters, Dura-Ace DT shifters are the better choice). Got
 lucky and they did, so I plunked down my cash and I should have my new
 bike next weekend.

 Kona make some very nice bikes and Dura Ace is pretty damned nice
 stuff.  Congrats on your new bike;  the weather's looking pretty good
 for some good riding!

 cheers,
 frank


I do wish that there was more DA on the bike than just the shifters
(the drivetrain is 9 speed Tiagra with a 105 RD), and yeah, the
weather is great, today's my 3rd day in a row on the bike and I'm
looking at a solid week of nice commuting weather.



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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-07 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Stan Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 Back long ago and far away when I was doing major long-distance cycling, I
 knew several people who rode recumbents. I was never tempted. One issue for
 me is the visibility, both the more limited sight-line for the rider and the
 lower profile (literally and figuratively) when on the road. In normal road
 bikes I found I preferred shorter wheel base for the responsive handling
 (sports car vs. comfy full-size sedan) and I think the recumbent would be a
 large truck on this spectrum.

For me, a recumbent would be ~right out~ for the city, especially
messengering, where ability to zip between cars and hop curbs and
other obstacles in emergency situations is helpful.

I do think I might like a 'bent for long flattish rides, but if any
climbing is involved, I'd want the lightness and short wheelbase that
a traditional diamond frame provides.

And, if I had back issues (which thankfully I don't), a recumbent
would be great!

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-07 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:

 Yes, Aluminum does do well for certain applications. But there's a
 couple things I don't like about it, most due to my overall dislike of
 stiff rides (as opposed to harsh rides, stiff is not harsh) and
 longevity issues. Aluminum frames wear out as aluminum has a limited
 fatigue life (unlike steel) and a compliant aluminum frame is more
 susceptible to this than a stiff one. This is an issue for me as I
 tend to keep my bikes long-term (My main ride is 12 years old and it
 will still be in use after the Honky Tonk arrives) That said, for a
 track bike or race bike where stiffness is a major win and limited
 lifespan is not an issue, Aluminum does very well and provides a
 lower-cost high performance alternative to Carbon (and without some of
 the risks of Carbon)

One thing I'll say is that certainly aluminium is a compromise.  If
money were no object I'd ride CF.  But for the cost, aluminium does
very well.

You're right about aluminium's longevity (or lack of it).  It
literally starts micro-cracking the moment it's put together.  3 to 5
years is the longest I'd ride one (meaning that my Fondriest is
getting very long-in-the-tooth).  For a messenger frame, which tends
to have a short lifespan anyway, it's not such an issue, but for the
average cyclist, it is something to consider.  Steel frames last
forever if treated well.  Tubes can be replaced when damaged.

For longer rides, steel would be my preference, which is why I'm
currently putting together a road bike based on an old mid-nineties
Marinoni lugged steel frame.  It should be like riding a barcalounger
compared to my trackbike.


 I do wish that there was more DA on the bike than just the shifters
 (the drivetrain is 9 speed Tiagra with a 105 RD), and yeah, the
 weather is great, today's my 3rd day in a row on the bike and I'm
 looking at a solid week of nice commuting weather.

Until Thursday (high of +2C, wet snow/mixed precip - yuck!).

Enjoy your commutes until then - I'll enjoy my job, that's for sure!

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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-07 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault wrote:

You're right about aluminium's longevity (or lack of it).  It
literally starts micro-cracking the moment it's put together.  3 to 5
years is the longest I'd ride one (meaning that my Fondriest is
getting very long-in-the-tooth).  For a messenger frame, which tends
to have a short lifespan anyway, it's not such an issue, but for the
average cyclist, it is something to consider.

FWIW, I think this is mostly urban legend, passed down through
cyclists, mechanics and (ahem) bike shop owners. Aluminum is used for
frames of racing motorcycles and aircraft and lasts a lot longer than
5 years without trouble. Granted, it's likely to be different alloys,
etc, but the basic technology is the same. I know plenty of people
who've used aluminum-framed bikes for 10 years or more.

A more cynical note: I can't believe aluminum-framed bikes would be
sold *at all* in the liability-lawsuit-crazed U.S. if half the stories
of their limited lifespans had much truth to them.


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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-07 Thread Ken Waller


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Subject: Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron


On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 12:44 AM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:



Nice shot, cute girl, nice bike even if I am somewhat biased against 
Aluminum.


There are some very nice alumimium bikes out there. It's not as sexy
as carbon fibre, not as familiar as steel, but for the price,
aluminium is a nice combination of stiffness and lightness. Aluminium
has a bad reputation for harshness, but (like anything else), if
designed properly, aluminium frames can work very well.

That's not to say that it's superior to steel or carbon; it's all
what the designer/framebuilder does with it, isn't it? I love my
aluminium Fondriest trackbike!




Yes, Aluminum does do well for certain applications. But there's a
couple things I don't like about it, most due to my overall dislike of
stiff rides (as opposed to harsh rides, stiff is not harsh) and
longevity issues. Aluminum frames wear out as aluminum has a limited
fatigue life (unlike steel) and a compliant aluminum frame is more
susceptible to this than a stiff one. This is an issue for me as I
tend to keep my bikes long-term (My main ride is 12 years old and it
will still be in use after the Honky Tonk arrives) That said, for a
track bike or race bike where stiffness is a major win and limited
lifespan is not an issue, Aluminum does very well and provides a
lower-cost high performance alternative to Carbon (and without some of
the risks of Carbon)


I have a 21 year old Cannondale mtn bike and outside of a few tires  tubes 
have never had to replace anything on it and while I haven't ridden anything 
else in those years, the ride is ok by me - could be the fat mtn tires.





Just ordered a new bike myself. Duke's was nice enough to call up Kona
and check if they had any leftover 2009 Honky Tonk's in my size as I
don't like the 2010 versions (A nice steel road bike should not have
cheapo brifters, Dura-Ace DT shifters are the better choice). Got
lucky and they did, so I plunked down my cash and I should have my new
bike next weekend.


Kona make some very nice bikes and Dura Ace is pretty damned nice
stuff. Congrats on your new bike; the weather's looking pretty good
for some good riding!

cheers,
frank




I do wish that there was more DA on the bike than just the shifters
(the drivetrain is 9 speed Tiagra with a 105 RD), and yeah, the
weather is great, today's my 3rd day in a row on the bike and I'm
looking at a solid week of nice commuting weather.




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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-07 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 frank theriault wrote:

You're right about aluminium's longevity (or lack of it).  It
literally starts micro-cracking the moment it's put together.  3 to 5
years is the longest I'd ride one (meaning that my Fondriest is
getting very long-in-the-tooth).  For a messenger frame, which tends
to have a short lifespan anyway, it's not such an issue, but for the
average cyclist, it is something to consider.

 FWIW, I think this is mostly urban legend, passed down through
 cyclists, mechanics and (ahem) bike shop owners. Aluminum is used for
 frames of racing motorcycles and aircraft and lasts a lot longer than
 5 years without trouble. Granted, it's likely to be different alloys,
 etc, but the basic technology is the same. I know plenty of people
 who've used aluminum-framed bikes for 10 years or more.

 A more cynical note: I can't believe aluminum-framed bikes would be
 sold *at all* in the liability-lawsuit-crazed U.S. if half the stories
 of their limited lifespans had much truth to them.


Aircraft have limited stress lifetimes for exactly this reason. And a
rebuild for a smaller aircraft pretty much comes down to stripping it
and replacing the high-stress items at a certain set point in the
lifespan. Aircraft also get inspected every 100 hours and if a pattern
of stress cracks is found entire fleets will be grounded.

Your motorcycle frame benefits from suspension which damps alot of the
vibrations and stress (Aluminum FS bicycles also benefit from this by
a large amount) and also benefits from the extra strength you can
build in since compliance is provided by the suspension. FS bikes (and
motorcycles) are massively overbuilt compared to the frames we are
talking about here (a typical road bike frame made from aluminum is
3-4lbs)

Aluminum frames don't have legal issues since the average user doesn't
ride all that much and frame warranties tend to be quite good. Frame
life is 5-10 years under heavy use, 10-20 years under light use,
essentially forever under typical consumer use (most bike owners ride
less than 100km per year). The real concern with Aluminum is if you
are a heavy user (Racer, messenger, the hardcore MTB user running a
rigid or hardtail) or if you buy an older frame which has been used in
such a manner.



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PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-06 Thread frank theriault
One for the bike crowd.

This weekend is Toronto's annual Bike Show.  I don't go any more
because the cheap bargains are no longer anywhere to be seen.
However, one can get some big ticket items at amazing prices if you
get there early.  My room mate's girlfriend Christina got there early
and bought this lovely Cervelo T3:

http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2010/03/christinas-new-baby.html

Aluminium frame, full Shimano Ultegra gruppo, it's light and
beautiful.  She was happy to have her new baby's portrait taken before
taking it out on its inaugural ride this morning.  It's now 7:30 pm
and she's still not back.  Must be some ride!

;-)

Taken with the *istD and Vivitar S1 f3.8 constant aperture 24-48mm.  I
keep forgetting how lovely and sharp this lens is.  And almost
distortion-free (this was taken at 24mm).

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-06 Thread paul stenquist
I like it. Pretty bike, pretty girl, excellent rendering. What more could one 
ask for?
Paul
On Mar 6, 2010, at 7:38 PM, frank theriault wrote:

 One for the bike crowd.
 
 This weekend is Toronto's annual Bike Show.  I don't go any more
 because the cheap bargains are no longer anywhere to be seen.
 However, one can get some big ticket items at amazing prices if you
 get there early.  My room mate's girlfriend Christina got there early
 and bought this lovely Cervelo T3:
 
 http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2010/03/christinas-new-baby.html
 
 Aluminium frame, full Shimano Ultegra gruppo, it's light and
 beautiful.  She was happy to have her new baby's portrait taken before
 taking it out on its inaugural ride this morning.  It's now 7:30 pm
 and she's still not back.  Must be some ride!
 
 ;-)
 
 Taken with the *istD and Vivitar S1 f3.8 constant aperture 24-48mm.  I
 keep forgetting how lovely and sharp this lens is.  And almost
 distortion-free (this was taken at 24mm).
 
 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-06 Thread Larry Colen


On Mar 6, 2010, at 4:38 PM, frank theriault wrote:


One for the bike crowd.

This weekend is Toronto's annual Bike Show.  I don't go any more
because the cheap bargains are no longer anywhere to be seen.
However, one can get some big ticket items at amazing prices if you
get there early.  My room mate's girlfriend Christina got there early
and bought this lovely Cervelo T3:

http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2010/03/christinas-new-baby.html


Very pretty.  So is the bike.
The picture's not bad either.



Aluminium frame, full Shimano Ultegra gruppo, it's light and
beautiful.


She spent all that money and they didn't even supply a kickstand?


She was happy to have her new baby's portrait taken before
taking it out on its inaugural ride this morning.  It's now 7:30 pm
and she's still not back.  Must be some ride!

;-)

Taken with the *istD and Vivitar S1 f3.8 constant aperture 24-48mm.  I
keep forgetting how lovely and sharp this lens is.  And almost
distortion-free (this was taken at 24mm).

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-06 Thread Christine Aguila
Good rendering, Frank.  Looks like a nice bike--I don't know anything about 
bikes.  The lines in the graffiti match the lines in Christina's helmet, 
which is fun.  Very nice picture you've made.  Cheers, Christine



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Subject: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron



One for the bike crowd.

This weekend is Toronto's annual Bike Show.  I don't go any more
because the cheap bargains are no longer anywhere to be seen.
However, one can get some big ticket items at amazing prices if you
get there early.  My room mate's girlfriend Christina got there early
and bought this lovely Cervelo T3:

http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2010/03/christinas-new-baby.html

Aluminium frame, full Shimano Ultegra gruppo, it's light and
beautiful.  She was happy to have her new baby's portrait taken before
taking it out on its inaugural ride this morning.  It's now 7:30 pm
and she's still not back.  Must be some ride!

;-)

Taken with the *istD and Vivitar S1 f3.8 constant aperture 24-48mm.  I
keep forgetting how lovely and sharp this lens is.  And almost
distortion-free (this was taken at 24mm).

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-06 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 7:38 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 One for the bike crowd.

 This weekend is Toronto's annual Bike Show.  I don't go any more
 because the cheap bargains are no longer anywhere to be seen.
 However, one can get some big ticket items at amazing prices if you
 get there early.  My room mate's girlfriend Christina got there early
 and bought this lovely Cervelo T3:

 http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2010/03/christinas-new-baby.html

 Aluminium frame, full Shimano Ultegra gruppo, it's light and
 beautiful.  She was happy to have her new baby's portrait taken before
 taking it out on its inaugural ride this morning.  It's now 7:30 pm
 and she's still not back.  Must be some ride!

 ;-)

 Taken with the *istD and Vivitar S1 f3.8 constant aperture 24-48mm.  I
 keep forgetting how lovely and sharp this lens is.  And almost
 distortion-free (this was taken at 24mm).

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

 cheers,
 frank

Nice shot, cute girl, nice bike even if I am somewhat biased against Aluminum.

Just ordered a new bike myself. Duke's was nice enough to call up Kona
and check if they had any leftover 2009 Honky Tonk's in my size as I
don't like the 2010 versions (A nice steel road bike should not have
cheapo brifters, Dura-Ace DT shifters are the better choice). Got
lucky and they did, so I plunked down my cash and I should have my new
bike next weekend.



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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-06 Thread Sasha Sobol
Bike and girl compliment each other nicely.
I like it.
--Sasha

On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 7:38 PM, frank theriault
 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 One for the bike crowd.

 This weekend is Toronto's annual Bike Show.  I don't go any more
 because the cheap bargains are no longer anywhere to be seen.
 However, one can get some big ticket items at amazing prices if you
 get there early.  My room mate's girlfriend Christina got there early
 and bought this lovely Cervelo T3:

 http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2010/03/christinas-new-baby.html

 Aluminium frame, full Shimano Ultegra gruppo, it's light and
 beautiful.  She was happy to have her new baby's portrait taken before
 taking it out on its inaugural ride this morning.  It's now 7:30 pm
 and she's still not back.  Must be some ride!

 ;-)

 Taken with the *istD and Vivitar S1 f3.8 constant aperture 24-48mm.  I
 keep forgetting how lovely and sharp this lens is.  And almost
 distortion-free (this was taken at 24mm).

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

 cheers,
 frank

 Nice shot, cute girl, nice bike even if I am somewhat biased against Aluminum.

 Just ordered a new bike myself. Duke's was nice enough to call up Kona
 and check if they had any leftover 2009 Honky Tonk's in my size as I
 don't like the 2010 versions (A nice steel road bike should not have
 cheapo brifters, Dura-Ace DT shifters are the better choice). Got
 lucky and they did, so I plunked down my cash and I should have my new
 bike next weekend.



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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-06 Thread David Mann
On Mar 7, 2010, at 1:38 PM, frank theriault wrote:

 http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2010/03/christinas-new-baby.html

Lovely.

Dave


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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 7:38 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
snip  My room mate's girlfriend Christina got there early
 and bought this lovely Cervelo T3:

 http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2010/03/christinas-new-baby.html
snip

Correction:  The bike is a Cervelo S1.  The fork is model T3.

Sorry for any confusion I may have caused.

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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:


 Nice shot, cute girl, nice bike even if I am somewhat biased against Aluminum.

There are some very nice alumimium bikes out there.  It's not as sexy
as carbon fibre, not as familiar as steel, but for the price,
aluminium is a nice combination of stiffness and lightness.  Aluminium
has a bad reputation for harshness, but (like anything else), if
designed properly, aluminium frames can work very well.

That's not to say that it's superior to steel or carbon;  it's all
what the designer/framebuilder does with it, isn't it?  I love my
aluminium Fondriest trackbike!


 Just ordered a new bike myself. Duke's was nice enough to call up Kona
 and check if they had any leftover 2009 Honky Tonk's in my size as I
 don't like the 2010 versions (A nice steel road bike should not have
 cheapo brifters, Dura-Ace DT shifters are the better choice). Got
 lucky and they did, so I plunked down my cash and I should have my new
 bike next weekend.

Kona make some very nice bikes and Dura Ace is pretty damned nice
stuff.  Congrats on your new bike;  the weather's looking pretty good
for some good riding!

cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO - Christina's New Baby - Attn: Bike Pron

2010-03-06 Thread Sasha Sobol
What do you guys think about recumbents?
I love mine: bacchetta giro
--Sasha

On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:44 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:


 Nice shot, cute girl, nice bike even if I am somewhat biased against 
 Aluminum.

 There are some very nice alumimium bikes out there.  It's not as sexy
 as carbon fibre, not as familiar as steel, but for the price,
 aluminium is a nice combination of stiffness and lightness.  Aluminium
 has a bad reputation for harshness, but (like anything else), if
 designed properly, aluminium frames can work very well.

 That's not to say that it's superior to steel or carbon;  it's all
 what the designer/framebuilder does with it, isn't it?  I love my
 aluminium Fondriest trackbike!


 Just ordered a new bike myself. Duke's was nice enough to call up Kona
 and check if they had any leftover 2009 Honky Tonk's in my size as I
 don't like the 2010 versions (A nice steel road bike should not have
 cheapo brifters, Dura-Ace DT shifters are the better choice). Got
 lucky and they did, so I plunked down my cash and I should have my new
 bike next weekend.

 Kona make some very nice bikes and Dura Ace is pretty damned nice
 stuff.  Congrats on your new bike;  the weather's looking pretty good
 for some good riding!

 cheers,
 frank

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