RE: PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-06 Thread Tim Øsleby
I think most that needs to be said is said. 
After Godfrey has over(?)done his magic, it pops ;-)
A nice portrait.


Tim
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> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 3. mai 2006 06:20
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: PESO - My First PESO
> 
> This is partly an experiment in B&W post-processing, part "trying to
> rescue a low-light shot".
> 
> Orig:
> http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/joc.jpg
> 
> B&W:
> http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/jocb&w.jpg
> 
> Technical:
> *ist DS, A-50mm/1.7, 1/25s, f/2.0, ISO 400.
> 
> I de-saturated, then adjusted the lightness of the spectrum.  Added
> some noise.
> 
> Tips?  Honesty?  Brutality?
> 
> Thanks.
> Michael Hamilton
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.michaelhamilton.ca
> 
> 





Re: PESO - My First PESO, The Second Edition

2006-05-03 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

I'm quite happy with the tips that Godfrey provided me.  Here is my 
second edition of my B&W post-processing.


http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/?p=106

Thoughts?  Comments?  Critiques?

Are the eyes too "front and center" now?


Much better, Michael... Now, for some reason (whereas I may be 
absolutely wrong) it seems to me that there is ever so slight smile 
present here... If (and only if) I am right, I humbly suggest that you 
add just a little white sparkle to her eyes, to make the smile slightly 
more pronounced.


My wife Julia seems to agree...

Boris



Re: PESO - My First PESO, The Second Edition

2006-05-03 Thread Paul Stenquist

Much better. Good work.
Paul
On May 3, 2006, at 11:45 PM, Michael Hamilton wrote:

I'm quite happy with the tips that Godfrey provided me.  Here is my 
second edition of my B&W post-processing.


http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/?p=106

Thoughts?  Comments?  Critiques?

Are the eyes too "front and center" now?

Michael Hamilton
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca


On 3-May-06, at 5:35 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:



On May 3, 2006, at 4:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/joc/


I like that *more* than what I did, but I think you may have gone a 
bit
too far.  It appears to be oversharpened, but I'll work with the psd 
file

and see if I can find a happy medium!

Thanks, Godfrey.


You're welcome, glad to help.

The sharpening is somewhat a matter of taste ... I tend to like more 
texture in the skin then some, I find. I felt it a little heavy 
(quick pass, didn't do much tuning), but it's done non-destructively 
in the Photoshop file as a background layer copy with masking. It can 
be adjusted to your taste easily. :-)


Godfrey






Re: PESO - My First PESO, The Second Edition

2006-05-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On May 3, 2006, at 8:45 PM, Michael Hamilton wrote:


http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/?p=106
Thoughts?  Comments?  Critiques?


Nice. It's a softer, warmer rendering than I did with it, probably a  
bit more flattering. The eyes look fine to me, a little darker than I  
might prefer but it's your picture ... :-)


Godfrey



Re: PESO - My First PESO, The Second Edition

2006-05-03 Thread Michael Hamilton
I'm quite happy with the tips that Godfrey provided me.  Here is my  
second edition of my B&W post-processing.


http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/?p=106

Thoughts?  Comments?  Critiques?

Are the eyes too "front and center" now?

Michael Hamilton
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca


On 3-May-06, at 5:35 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:



On May 3, 2006, at 4:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/joc/


I like that *more* than what I did, but I think you may have gone  
a bit
too far.  It appears to be oversharpened, but I'll work with the  
psd file

and see if I can find a happy medium!

Thanks, Godfrey.


You're welcome, glad to help.

The sharpening is somewhat a matter of taste ... I tend to like  
more texture in the skin then some, I find. I felt it a little  
heavy (quick pass, didn't do much tuning), but it's done non- 
destructively in the Photoshop file as a background layer copy with  
masking. It can be adjusted to your taste easily. :-)


Godfrey




Re: PESO - My First PESO, The Second Edition

2006-05-03 Thread Michael Hamilton
I'm quite happy with the tips that Godfrey provided me.  Here is my  
second edition of my B&W post-processing.


http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/?p=106

Thoughts?  Comments?  Critiques?

Are the eyes too "front and center" now?

Michael Hamilton
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca


On 3-May-06, at 5:35 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:



On May 3, 2006, at 4:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/joc/


I like that *more* than what I did, but I think you may have gone  
a bit
too far.  It appears to be oversharpened, but I'll work with the  
psd file

and see if I can find a happy medium!

Thanks, Godfrey.


You're welcome, glad to help.

The sharpening is somewhat a matter of taste ... I tend to like  
more texture in the skin then some, I find. I felt it a little  
heavy (quick pass, didn't do much tuning), but it's done non- 
destructively in the Photoshop file as a background layer copy with  
masking. It can be adjusted to your taste easily. :-)


Godfrey




Re: PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On May 3, 2006, at 6:37 AM, Michael Hamilton wrote:

.. It is customary to have at least one eye of a portrayed person  
to be in focus. You seem to have both out of focus.


Yes, that's an ongoing problem.  Low-light focusing with a manual  
focus lens.  I recently purchased a homemade split screen, but it  
doesn't seem to work well with my FA or DA lenses and autofocus.   
Any suggestions?


Forget the split screens. AF in low light is generally at a  
disadvantage. Practice manual focusing with the standard screen. The  
more you do, the better you get at it.


BTW:

Michael,
I took your original color image and did a little adjustment to it in  
Photoshop, produced a color and B&W version. If you use Photoshop  
CS2, you can get the .PSD file to see what I did specifically.

  http://homepage.mac.com/godders/joc/

Godfrey



Re: PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On May 3, 2006, at 4:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/joc/


I like that *more* than what I did, but I think you may have gone a  
bit
too far.  It appears to be oversharpened, but I'll work with the  
psd file

and see if I can find a happy medium!

Thanks, Godfrey.


You're welcome, glad to help.

The sharpening is somewhat a matter of taste ... I tend to like more  
texture in the skin then some, I find. I felt it a little heavy  
(quick pass, didn't do much tuning), but it's done non-destructively  
in the Photoshop file as a background layer copy with masking. It can  
be adjusted to your taste easily. :-)


Godfrey



Re: PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-03 Thread mike
>>
>> On May 3, 2006, at 6:37 AM, Michael Hamilton wrote:

>> Michael,
>> I took your original color image and did a little adjustment to it in
>> Photoshop, produced a color and B&W version. If you use Photoshop
>> CS2, you can get the .PSD file to see what I did specifically.
>>http://homepage.mac.com/godders/joc/
>>
>
> I like that *more* than what I did, but I think you may have gone a bit
> too far.  It appears to be oversharpened, but I'll work with the psd file
> and see if I can find a happy medium!

Upon taking a look at the PSD file, I see what you were doing.  Something
didn't look right in the JPGs.  I like it and will try your tips.

Thanks again, Godfrey.



Re: PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-03 Thread mike
>
> On May 3, 2006, at 6:37 AM, Michael Hamilton wrote:
>
>>> .. It is customary to have at least one eye of a portrayed person
>>> to be in focus. You seem to have both out of focus.
>>
>> Yes, that's an ongoing problem.  Low-light focusing with a manual
>> focus lens.  I recently purchased a homemade split screen, but it
>> doesn't seem to work well with my FA or DA lenses and autofocus.
>> Any suggestions?
>
> Forget the split screens. AF in low light is generally at a
> disadvantage. Practice manual focusing with the standard screen. The
> more you do, the better you get at it.
>
> BTW:
>
> Michael,
> I took your original color image and did a little adjustment to it in
> Photoshop, produced a color and B&W version. If you use Photoshop
> CS2, you can get the .PSD file to see what I did specifically.
>http://homepage.mac.com/godders/joc/
>

I like that *more* than what I did, but I think you may have gone a bit
too far.  It appears to be oversharpened, but I'll work with the psd file
and see if I can find a happy medium!

Thanks, Godfrey.



Re: PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On May 2, 2006, at 9:20 PM, Michael Hamilton wrote:


Technical:
*ist DS, A-50mm/1.7, 1/25s, f/2.0, ISO 400.

Orig:
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/joc.jpg


The shot is a bit dark. A little bit of adjustment to levels,  
contrast and color correction brings it right up nicely. If you want  
to get fancy, lighten the eyes just a hair more than the rest so that  
they pop.


You got the eyes in sharp focus, which is exactly what you ought to  
do, but the nose and chin fall out of the focus zone ... f/4 works  
better at these distances. The nose and mouth are close enough to  
fine that with a little selective area sharpening, it looks great.



B&W:
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/jocb&w.jpg

I de-saturated, then adjusted the lightness of the spectrum.  Added  
some noise.


Unfortunately, this is pretty murky on my screen. You can do a much  
better B&W rendering after you've finished with the above adjustments  
to the color rendering. I would use a channel mix of the red and  
green or red and blue channels to bring the skin tones up, keep the  
lips nicely differentiated, and smooth the skin texture. Then a  
little selective contrast adjustment here and there to finish it off.


It's an intimate photograph of a lovely face. Worth the effort.

Godfrey



Re: PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-03 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

Yes, that's an ongoing problem.  Low-light focusing with a manual focus 
lens.  I recently purchased a homemade split screen, but it doesn't seem 
to work well with my FA or DA lenses and autofocus.  Any suggestions?


No real help there... I had to move completely to AF lenses...


Boris



Re: PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-03 Thread Michael Hamilton

On 3-May-06, at 4:05 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

The color version can be improved greatly with some curves  
adjustment and saturation reduction.


Okay, i'll try that out!

I also think you should remove the wart on the nose and the pimples  
on the chin, since this is obviously a portrait, not a news  
photograph.


Heh.  That's not a wart, actually.  It's a piercing. :)

The BW version shows way too much contrast with no shadow detail  
and burned highlights. Improving the color version before you  
convert will yield a better BW version. The noise doesn't add  
anything IMHO. Sorry I can't be more positive, but keep working on it.

Paul


Okay, thanks for your advice!  I think I'll just re-shoot the photo  
for a bit more focus/dof and a better angle.  Then I'l start again.



Michael Hamilton
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca



Re: PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-03 Thread Michael Hamilton

On 3-May-06, at 12:30 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:


Hi!

Michael, the b/w version is less unsuccessful than the original  
color one. Yet both seem (at least to me) to lack the evident point  
of focus. It is customary to have at least one eye of a portrayed  
person to be in focus. You seem to have both out of focus.




Yes, that's an ongoing problem.  Low-light focusing with a manual  
focus lens.  I recently purchased a homemade split screen, but it  
doesn't seem to work well with my FA or DA lenses and autofocus.  Any  
suggestions?


Assuming you can re-shoot, I suggest you do just that - shoot  
again. Also my experience with shooting (my daughter) with FA  
50/1.7 lens is that for such kind of portraits f/4 is just about  
the best. It gives enough DOF without getting too much of it.




Okay, thanks for the tip!  I'll try shooting with more light next  
time.  :)


mike\



Re: PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-03 Thread cbwaters

Michael,
It's too soft and seems to lack a little something to make it "pop".
I'm not one to be very technical about what you can do in PS or whatever but 
I'd try a slightly different angle and more DOF.
All that being said, it's not a BAD photograph.  Keep posting and lets see 
how much better it gets :)


Cory

- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 12:20 AM
Subject: PESO - My First PESO


This is partly an experiment in B&W post-processing, part "trying to 
rescue a low-light shot".


Orig:
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/joc.jpg

B&W:
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/jocb&w.jpg

Technical:
*ist DS, A-50mm/1.7, 1/25s, f/2.0, ISO 400.

I de-saturated, then adjusted the lightness of the spectrum.  Added  some 
noise.


Tips?  Honesty?  Brutality?

Thanks.
Michael Hamilton
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca




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Re: PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
The color version can be improved greatly with some curves adjustment 
and saturation reduction. I also think you should remove the wart on 
the nose and the pimples on the chin, since this is obviously a 
portrait, not a news photograph. The BW version shows way too much 
contrast with no shadow detail and burned highlights. Improving the 
color version before you convert will yield a better BW version. The 
noise doesn't add anything IMHO. Sorry I can't be more positive, but 
keep working on it.

Paul
On May 3, 2006, at 12:20 AM, Michael Hamilton wrote:

This is partly an experiment in B&W post-processing, part "trying to 
rescue a low-light shot".


Orig:
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/joc.jpg

B&W:
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/jocb&w.jpg

Technical:
*ist DS, A-50mm/1.7, 1/25s, f/2.0, ISO 400.

I de-saturated, then adjusted the lightness of the spectrum.  Added 
some noise.


Tips?  Honesty?  Brutality?

Thanks.
Michael Hamilton
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca






Re: PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-02 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

This is partly an experiment in B&W post-processing, part "trying to 
rescue a low-light shot".


Orig:
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/joc.jpg

B&W:
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/jocb&w.jpg

Technical:
*ist DS, A-50mm/1.7, 1/25s, f/2.0, ISO 400.

I de-saturated, then adjusted the lightness of the spectrum.  Added some 
noise.


Tips?  Honesty?  Brutality?


Michael, the b/w version is less unsuccessful than the original color 
one. Yet both seem (at least to me) to lack the evident point of focus. 
It is customary to have at least one eye of a portrayed person to be in 
focus. You seem to have both out of focus.


Assuming you can re-shoot, I suggest you do just that - shoot again. 
Also my experience with shooting (my daughter) with FA 50/1.7 lens is 
that for such kind of portraits f/4 is just about the best. It gives 
enough DOF without getting too much of it.


Just my few cents and pixels.

Boris



PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-02 Thread Michael Hamilton
This is partly an experiment in B&W post-processing, part "trying to  
rescue a low-light shot".


Orig:
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/joc.jpg

B&W:
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/jocb&w.jpg

Technical:
*ist DS, A-50mm/1.7, 1/25s, f/2.0, ISO 400.

I de-saturated, then adjusted the lightness of the spectrum.  Added  
some noise.


Tips?  Honesty?  Brutality?

Thanks.
Michael Hamilton
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca




Re: Fw: Peso: My First Peso

2005-08-19 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/18/2005 2:29:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 18/8/05, Manuel Magalhães , discombobulated, unleashed:

> Something was missing,
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/35146415/
> Sorry,
>
>Manuel

I like it Manuel, but you know what? If you cropped that really tight,
just the kids and the water 'clouds' it would be a cracking shot.




Cheers,
  Cotty
=
What he said. I was going to say I'd like it closer, but a tighter crop would 
have the same effect. The important parts are the kids and the water clouds. 
The rest is extraneous.

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: Fw: Peso: My First Peso

2005-08-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/8/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Then I guess the word neat has come back around?

Wouldn't surprise me. Not here (yet) though. 'Cool' is in, but it was in
in 1974 in the Bay Area when I was 14. 'Wicked' is in. Some things rub
off on our kids (mainly from the Simpsons) but other things don't. I
think it's partly to do with pronunciation. It's easy for Americans to
say 'butt' as in 'butt-head'. Not as easy for us Brits. We overcook the
'tt' bit - like saying buter instead of budder.

Oddly, we can say 'mate' better than you. In that case, the 't' is almost
silent from us. You guys make it sound like a sex education class.




*hic*

uh oh, I'm off.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Fw: Peso: My First Peso

2005-08-18 Thread Powell Hargrave
Nice.  The water clouds are intriguing and the dancing pairs are great.
I do think a good health crop to remove many of the background distractions
is called for though.

Thanks for sharing Manuel

Powell


>http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/35146415/
>
>Manuel



Re: Fw: Peso: My First Peso

2005-08-18 Thread P. J. Alling

Then I guess the word neat has come back around?

Cotty wrote:


On 18/8/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

 


That's really neat...  (I guess I'm showing my age).
   



Peter, for goodness sake, you're only twelve.




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Re: Res: Re: Fw: Peso: My First Peso

2005-08-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/8/05, Manuel Magalhães , discombobulated, unleashed:

> I see. I'm going to try it.
>Thanks
>Manuel

What a guy!




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Re: Fw: Peso: My First Peso

2005-08-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/8/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

>That's really neat...  (I guess I'm showing my age).

Peter, for goodness sake, you're only twelve.




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Re: Fw: Peso: My First Peso

2005-08-18 Thread P. J. Alling

That's really neat...  (I guess I'm showing my age).

Manuel Magalhães wrote:


Something was missing,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/35146415/
Sorry,

Manuel
---Mensagem original---

De: Manuel Magalhães
Data: 08/18/05 22:04:01
Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Assunto: Peso: My First Peso

Hi all,

During my vacations I bought a F35-135mm 3.5-4.5 in an old shop to an old
guy, in Andorra.
As I said before it is a brand new lens with more or less 15 years old.
So here is one shot taken in Bilbao Spain.

Comments are welcome.

Manuel


 




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Re: Peso: My First Peso

2005-08-18 Thread P. J. Alling

How should I put this, it's very clear...

Manuel Magalhães wrote:


Hi all,

During my vacations I bought a F35-135mm 3.5-4.5 in an old shop to an old
guy, in Andorra.
As I said before it is a brand new lens with more or less 15 years old.
So here is one shot taken in Bilbao Spain.

Comments are welcome.

Manuel


 




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Res: Re: Fw: Peso: My First Peso

2005-08-18 Thread Manuel Magalhães
 No, it wasn't my intention but it's nice to have different eyes
looking at the same things seeing different perspectives,

Thanks Jack

Manuel
 
---Mensagem original---
 
De: Jack Davis
Data: 08/18/05 22:19:40
Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Assunto: Re: Fw: Peso: My First Peso
 
Manuel,
May or may not have been your intention, but those
enjoying the "water clouds" appear paired as dance
couples.
Very nice!
 
Jack
 
--- Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> Very cool. Like the way you stopped the water at
> the perfect moment.
>
> Good thing you didnt take that in the US, you may
> have been questioned
> by the police. Did you read the discussion about
> this?
>
> rg
>
>
> Manuel Magalhães wrote:
> > Something was missing,
> >
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/35146415/
> > Sorry,
> >
> > Manuel
> > ---Mensagem original---
> >
> > De: Manuel Magalhães
> > Data: 08/18/05 22:04:01
> > Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Assunto: Peso: My First Peso
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > During my vacations I bought a F35-135mm 3.5-4.5
> in an old shop to an old
> > guy, in Andorra.
> > As I said before it is a brand new lens with more
> or less 15 years old.
> > So here is one shot taken in Bilbao Spain.
> >
> > Comments are welcome.
> >
> > Manuel
> >
>
>
 
 
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RE: Peso: My First Peso

2005-08-18 Thread Tim Øsleby
Very nice "hot summer in the city" picture. Very well executed. The children
interacting with the water and each other, beautiful.

Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.)

Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)


-Original Message-
From: Manuel Magalhães [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18. august 2005 23:05
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Fw: Peso: My First Peso

 Something was missing,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/35146415/
 Sorry,

Manuel
---Mensagem original---
 
De: Manuel Magalhães
Data: 08/18/05 22:04:01
Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Assunto: Peso: My First Peso
 
Hi all,
 
During my vacations I bought a F35-135mm 3.5-4.5 in an old shop to an old
guy, in Andorra.
As I said before it is a brand new lens with more or less 15 years old.
So here is one shot taken in Bilbao Spain.
 
Comments are welcome.
 
Manuel







Res: Re: Fw: Peso: My First Peso

2005-08-18 Thread Manuel Magalhães
 they were small jets of water coming from those holes in the ground
with different timings.
 
---Mensagem original---
 
De: keithw
Data: 08/18/05 22:19:10
Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Assunto: Re: Fw: Peso: My First Peso
 
Manuel Magalhães wrote:
 
> Something was missing,
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/35146415/
> Sorry,
>
> Manuel
 
Some very good shots!
 
Tell me, how are the water clouds done?
I can think of a couple of ways, but see nothing in the image to support
my ideas!
Do you know how they were produced?
 
Very interesting!
 
keith whaley
 
 
> ---Mensagem original---
>
> De: Manuel Magalhães
> Data: 08/18/05 22:04:01
> Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Assunto: Peso: My First Peso
>
> Hi all,
>
> During my vacations I bought a F35-135mm 3.5-4.5 in an old shop to an old
> guy, in Andorra.
> As I said before it is a brand new lens with more or less 15 years old.
> So here is one shot taken in Bilbao Spain.
>
> Comments are welcome.
>
> Manuel
>
>
>
 
 



Res: Re: Fw: Peso: My First Peso

2005-08-18 Thread Manuel Magalhães
 
 
---Mensagem original---
 
De: Cotty
Data: 08/18/05 22:30:37
Para: pentax list
Assunto: Re: Fw: Peso: My First Peso
 
On 18/8/05, Manuel Magalhães , discombobulated, unleashed:
 
> Something was missing,
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/35146415/
> Sorry,
>
>Manuel
 
I like it Manuel, but you know what? If you cropped that really tight,
just the kids and the water 'clouds' it would be a cracking shot.
 
 I see. I'm going to try it.
Thanks
Manuel
 
 
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Res: Re: Fw: Peso: My First Peso

2005-08-18 Thread Manuel Magalhães
 Yeap!
Guess what?
In Spain people are very friendly when you have a smile in your face.
In Portugal to.
So it's kind of difficult to me the understanding of the situations
mentioned in the posts.

Manuel
 
---Mensagem original---
 
De: Gonz
Data: 08/18/05 22:13:34
Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Assunto: Re: Fw: Peso: My First Peso
 
Very cool. Like the way you stopped the water at the perfect moment.
 
Good thing you didnt take that in the US, you may have been questioned
by the police. Did you read the discussion about this?
 
rg
 
 
Manuel Magalhães wrote:
> Something was missing,
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/35146415/
> Sorry,
>
> Manuel
> ---Mensagem original---
>
> De: Manuel Magalhães
> Data: 08/18/05 22:04:01
> Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Assunto: Peso: My First Peso
>
> Hi all,
>
> During my vacations I bought a F35-135mm 3.5-4.5 in an old shop to an old
> guy, in Andorra.
> As I said before it is a brand new lens with more or less 15 years old.
> So here is one shot taken in Bilbao Spain.
>
> Comments are welcome.
>
> Manuel
>
 
 



Re: Fw: Peso: My First Peso

2005-08-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/8/05, Manuel Magalhães , discombobulated, unleashed:

> Something was missing,
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/35146415/
> Sorry,
>
>Manuel

I like it Manuel, but you know what? If you cropped that really tight,
just the kids and the water 'clouds' it would be a cracking shot.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Fw: Peso: My First Peso

2005-08-18 Thread Glen

Hi Manuel,

That's an interesting shot. I've never seen water fixtures like that 
before. I like the composition. It's too bad you can't do anything about 
the clutter of buildings at the top of the frame. It seems every time I 
shoot something in a city environment, there is almost always a tree in the 
way, a poorly located trash can, or something else that I cannot move out 
of my way.


Then again, with the new digital cameras, I suppose I could remove a lot of 
these things -- as long as I'm not interested in a totally accurate 
document of the location.   ;-)



take care,
Glen


At 05:05 PM 8/18/2005, Manuel Magalhães wrote:


 Something was missing,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/35146415/
 Sorry,

Manuel
---Mensagem original---

De: Manuel Magalhães
Data: 08/18/05 22:04:01
Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Assunto: Peso: My First Peso

Hi all,

During my vacations I bought a F35-135mm 3.5-4.5 in an old shop to an old
guy, in Andorra.
As I said before it is a brand new lens with more or less 15 years old.
So here is one shot taken in Bilbao Spain.

Comments are welcome.

Manuel



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Re: Fw: Peso: My First Peso

2005-08-18 Thread Jack Davis
Manuel,
May or may not have been your intention, but those
enjoying the "water clouds" appear paired as dance
couples. 
Very nice!

Jack

--- Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Very cool.  Like the way you stopped the water at
> the perfect moment.
> 
> Good thing you didnt take that in the US, you may
> have been questioned 
> by the police.  Did you read the discussion about
> this?
> 
> rg
> 
> 
> Manuel Magalhães wrote:
> >  Something was missing,
> >
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/35146415/
> >  Sorry,
> > 
> > Manuel
> > ---Mensagem original---
> >  
> > De: Manuel Magalhães
> > Data: 08/18/05 22:04:01
> > Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Assunto: Peso: My First Peso
> >  
> > Hi all,
> >  
> > During my vacations I bought a F35-135mm 3.5-4.5
> in an old shop to an old
> > guy, in Andorra.
> > As I said before it is a brand new lens with more
> or less 15 years old.
> > So here is one shot taken in Bilbao Spain.
> >  
> > Comments are welcome.
> >  
> > Manuel
> > 
> 
> 


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Re: Fw: Peso: My First Peso

2005-08-18 Thread keithw

Manuel Magalhães wrote:


 Something was missing,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/35146415/
 Sorry,

Manuel


Some very good shots!

Tell me, how are the water clouds done?
I can think of a couple of ways, but see nothing in the image to support 
my ideas!

Do you know how they were produced?

Very interesting!

keith whaley



---Mensagem original---
 
De: Manuel Magalhães

Data: 08/18/05 22:04:01
Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Assunto: Peso: My First Peso
 
Hi all,
 
During my vacations I bought a F35-135mm 3.5-4.5 in an old shop to an old

guy, in Andorra.
As I said before it is a brand new lens with more or less 15 years old.
So here is one shot taken in Bilbao Spain.
 
Comments are welcome.
 
Manuel








Re: Fw: Peso: My First Peso

2005-08-18 Thread Gonz

Very cool.  Like the way you stopped the water at the perfect moment.

Good thing you didnt take that in the US, you may have been questioned 
by the police.  Did you read the discussion about this?


rg


Manuel Magalhães wrote:

 Something was missing,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/35146415/
 Sorry,

Manuel
---Mensagem original---
 
De: Manuel Magalhães

Data: 08/18/05 22:04:01
Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Assunto: Peso: My First Peso
 
Hi all,
 
During my vacations I bought a F35-135mm 3.5-4.5 in an old shop to an old

guy, in Andorra.
As I said before it is a brand new lens with more or less 15 years old.
So here is one shot taken in Bilbao Spain.
 
Comments are welcome.
 
Manuel






Re: Peso: My First Peso

2005-08-18 Thread Jack Davis
The URL?

Jack

--- Manuel Magalhães  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Hi all,
> 
> During my vacations I bought a F35-135mm 3.5-4.5 in
> an old shop to an old
> guy, in Andorra.
> As I said before it is a brand new lens with more or
> less 15 years old.
> So here is one shot taken in Bilbao Spain.
> 
> Comments are welcome.
> 
> Manuel
> 
> 





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Fw: Peso: My First Peso

2005-08-18 Thread Manuel Magalhães
 Something was missing,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/35146415/
 Sorry,

Manuel
---Mensagem original---
 
De: Manuel Magalhães
Data: 08/18/05 22:04:01
Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Assunto: Peso: My First Peso
 
Hi all,
 
During my vacations I bought a F35-135mm 3.5-4.5 in an old shop to an old
guy, in Andorra.
As I said before it is a brand new lens with more or less 15 years old.
So here is one shot taken in Bilbao Spain.
 
Comments are welcome.
 
Manuel



Peso: My First Peso

2005-08-18 Thread Manuel Magalhães
 Hi all,

During my vacations I bought a F35-135mm 3.5-4.5 in an old shop to an old
guy, in Andorra.
As I said before it is a brand new lens with more or less 15 years old.
So here is one shot taken in Bilbao Spain.

Comments are welcome.

Manuel



Re: PESO: My First PESO

2005-08-15 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/11/2005 1:06:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hello,

I just uploaded one of the images I shot with the *istDS. The picture was 
shot at twilight, with the camera resting on the handrail of a balcony. The 
image is of Huntington, West Virginia. I would have preferred the skyline 
of New York or LA, but this is all I had to work with.  ;-)

http://mclilith.audioshot.net/photos2005/pullman.html


take care,
Glen
==
Interesting shot! It's so perfect it looks unreal -- like a stage set or 
something.

Keep them coming.

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: PESO: My First PESO

2005-08-13 Thread David Savage
I like it a lot Glen. A nice calm & relaxing picture postcard feel.

Well done.

Dave

On 8/12/05, Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I just uploaded one of the images I shot with the *istDS. The picture was
> shot at twilight, with the camera resting on the handrail of a balcony. The
> image is of Huntington, West Virginia. I would have preferred the skyline
> of New York or LA, but this is all I had to work with.  ;-)
> 
> http://mclilith.audioshot.net/photos2005/pullman.html
> 
> 
> take care,
> Glen
> 
>



Re: PESO: My First PESO

2005-08-12 Thread frank theriault
On 8/11/05, Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I just uploaded one of the images I shot with the *istDS. The picture was
> shot at twilight, with the camera resting on the handrail of a balcony. The
> image is of Huntington, West Virginia. I would have preferred the skyline
> of New York or LA, but this is all I had to work with.  ;-)
> 
> http://mclilith.audioshot.net/photos2005/pullman.html
> 

Holy crap, I like this shot!

It's the lighting.  It's about perfect.

The rest of the shot is pretty damned good, too.  Love the tight
geometrical precision with which it's composed and framed.

Great stuff.

cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO: My First PESO

2005-08-11 Thread Scott Loveless
On 8/11/05, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nice, but it looks over processed, more like a table top model, say for
> an HO gauge railroad layout, than a real place...

My initial thoughts, exactly.  But I like the way it looks.  Very cool photo.

> 
> Glen wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > I just uploaded one of the images I shot with the *istDS. The picture
> > was shot at twilight, with the camera resting on the handrail of a
> > balcony. The image is of Huntington, West Virginia. I would have
> > preferred the skyline of New York or LA, but this is all I had to work
> > with.  ;-)
> >
> > http://mclilith.audioshot.net/photos2005/pullman.html
> >
> >
> > take care,
> > Glen
> >
> >
> 
> 
> --
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> Run in circles, (scream and shout).
> 
> 


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Re: PESO: My First PESO

2005-08-11 Thread Joseph Tainter

Nice, Glen. You got just the right time of day.

Joe



RE: PESO: My First PESO

2005-08-11 Thread Butch Black
Interesting image. It almost looks like an illustration to me. What post 
processing did you do?


Butch 





RE: PESO: My First PESO

2005-08-11 Thread Tom C

Hi Glen,

A very pleasing shot! Nice balance, composition and color.  It feel real and 
the lights are great.  Thanks for sharing.


Tom C.




From: Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: My First PESO
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:06:00 -0400

Hello,

I just uploaded one of the images I shot with the *istDS. The picture was 
shot at twilight, with the camera resting on the handrail of a balcony. The 
image is of Huntington, West Virginia. I would have preferred the skyline 
of New York or LA, but this is all I had to work with.  ;-)


http://mclilith.audioshot.net/photos2005/pullman.html


take care,
Glen






Re: PESO: My First PESO

2005-08-11 Thread Glen

At 05:26 PM 8/11/2005, P. J. Alling wrote:

Well, yes I know about who Pullman was.  It's not just the layout of the 
square.  Looking at the original, it looks like a noise reduction program 
was used on the image at high settings and then it was over sharpened, (at 
least that's what it looks like from the halos around so many objects), to 
combat the softness the noise reduction imposed on the image.  This 
resulted in a cartoonie artificial look.  It's not a bad image, in fact 
it's a very good image, just looks less like a photograph than I think it 
should.


There was no noise reduction program used. When I converted to JPEG, I 
turned off color and luminance noise reduction in Photoshop's Camera RAW 
plugin. However, you're correct about the sharpening. During the conversion 
from RAW, the image was set for maximum sharpness which resulted in the 
halos you see around so many objects. I know this is extreme, but I liked 
the look of the very sharpened image better than the look of the slightly 
blurry alternative. On most of my images, I don't set the sharpness nearly 
so high during conversion from RAW. I often don't sharpen at all during the 
conversion. For some reason, this one image seemed more interesting to me 
with the extreme sharpness setting.


I was hoping that when viewed from an appropriate distance, the halos 
wouldn't be noticed.  ;-)



take care,
Glen



Re: PESO: My First PESO

2005-08-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
It's a really lovely shot.  I love the star shapes in the street 
lights;  they add sparkle and interest to a very nice scene.


Glen wrote:


Hello,

I just uploaded one of the images I shot with the *istDS. The picture 
was shot at twilight, with the camera resting on the handrail of a 
balcony. The image is of Huntington, West Virginia. I would have 
preferred the skyline of New York or LA, but this is all I had to work 
with.  ;-)


http://mclilith.audioshot.net/photos2005/pullman.html




Re: PESO: My First PESO

2005-08-11 Thread P. J. Alling
Well, yes I know about who Pullman was.  It's not just the layout of the 
square.  Looking at the original, it looks like a noise reduction 
program was used on the image at high settings and then it was over 
sharpened, (at least that's what it looks like from the halos around so 
many objects), to combat the softness the noise reduction imposed on the 
image.  This resulted in a cartoonie artificial look.  It's not a bad 
image, in fact it's a very good image, just looks less like a photograph 
than I think it should.


Glen wrote:


At 04:33 PM 8/11/2005, P. J. Alling wrote:

Nice, but it looks over processed, more like a table top model, say 
for an HO gauge railroad layout, than a real place...



Hi PJ,

I assume that you know that "Pullman Square" refers to the railroad 
industry? People in Huntington are very fond of railroad imagery and 
themes. The design of many features of this town square are intended 
to echo a railroad theme, so it's not too surprising that you found 
some resemblance to a model railroad.  ;-)


However, if you want to see real  scale models of the area, click here:

http://www.cityofhuntington.com/Work_and_Do_Business/ps-model.asp

I hope you agree that my image looks far more realistic than scale 
models.  ;-)


Also, if you want to see the JPEG version of my original image 
(caution:  it's large), click here:


http://mclilith.audioshot.net/photos2005/Pullman.jpg

This version is pretty much unprocessed, except for conversion from 
Pentax RAW format.



take care,
Glen





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Re: PESO: My First PESO

2005-08-11 Thread pnstenquist
Excellent! In the near perfection of the square and the bright colors in which 
it's rendered, it has an almost surreal quality to it. Great shot, well 
executed.
Paul


> On 11/8/05, Glen, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >I just uploaded one of the images I shot with the *istDS. The picture was 
> >shot at twilight, with the camera resting on the handrail of a balcony. The 
> >image is of Huntington, West Virginia. I would have preferred the skyline 
> >of New York or LA, but this is all I had to work with.  ;-)
> >
> >http://mclilith.audioshot.net/photos2005/pullman.html
> 
> That's a very appealing shot! I like the symmetry and the colour. And
> there's lots happening in it. Well done you.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
> 
> 
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> ||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
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Re: PESO: My First PESO

2005-08-11 Thread Glen

At 04:33 PM 8/11/2005, P. J. Alling wrote:

Nice, but it looks over processed, more like a table top model, say for an 
HO gauge railroad layout, than a real place...


Hi PJ,

I assume that you know that "Pullman Square" refers to the railroad 
industry? People in Huntington are very fond of railroad imagery and 
themes. The design of many features of this town square are intended to 
echo a railroad theme, so it's not too surprising that you found some 
resemblance to a model railroad.  ;-)


However, if you want to see real  scale models of the area, click here:

http://www.cityofhuntington.com/Work_and_Do_Business/ps-model.asp

I hope you agree that my image looks far more realistic than scale models.  ;-)

Also, if you want to see the JPEG version of my original image 
(caution:  it's large), click here:


http://mclilith.audioshot.net/photos2005/Pullman.jpg

This version is pretty much unprocessed, except for conversion from Pentax 
RAW format.



take care,
Glen



Re: PESO: My First PESO

2005-08-11 Thread P. J. Alling
Nice, but it looks over processed, more like a table top model, say for 
an HO gauge railroad layout, than a real place...


Glen wrote:


Hello,

I just uploaded one of the images I shot with the *istDS. The picture 
was shot at twilight, with the camera resting on the handrail of a 
balcony. The image is of Huntington, West Virginia. I would have 
preferred the skyline of New York or LA, but this is all I had to work 
with.  ;-)


http://mclilith.audioshot.net/photos2005/pullman.html


take care,
Glen





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Re: PESO: My First PESO

2005-08-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/8/05, Glen, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I just uploaded one of the images I shot with the *istDS. The picture was 
>shot at twilight, with the camera resting on the handrail of a balcony. The 
>image is of Huntington, West Virginia. I would have preferred the skyline 
>of New York or LA, but this is all I had to work with.  ;-)
>
>http://mclilith.audioshot.net/photos2005/pullman.html

That's a very appealing shot! I like the symmetry and the colour. And
there's lots happening in it. Well done you.




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  Cotty


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PESO: My First PESO

2005-08-11 Thread Glen

Hello,

I just uploaded one of the images I shot with the *istDS. The picture was 
shot at twilight, with the camera resting on the handrail of a balcony. The 
image is of Huntington, West Virginia. I would have preferred the skyline 
of New York or LA, but this is all I had to work with.  ;-)


http://mclilith.audioshot.net/photos2005/pullman.html


take care,
Glen