Re: PESO - Snowbird panorama - variants of different crops.

2017-03-04 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Thank you, Ann and Mark for your comments on these different variants
(and in the other thread).

Cheers,

Igor

 Mark C Sat, 04 Mar 2017 07:19:02 -0800 wrote:

I like Annsan's crop or the variants on it (#6, #7) the best. It does put 
the focus on the skiers more but the photo works better. The right side is 
sort of hanging in space but it creates a nice tension in the image - 
feels like the skiers will be swooping off to whatever on their way down.



Mark


On 3/2/2017 12:27 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


> > Thanks to all who commented on the two panoramas!

I took a few moments away from all the urgent issues that piled up after 
several travels to play with the crops I had in mind.

It is interesting how different crops can work for different purposes.

In an off-list communication, Ann proposed a crop that corresponds to her 
vision (posted with her permission):

http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/igorssnowscenecroppedbyann.jpg
(Many thanks to Ann for the time and energy in making this!)

I can clearly see the merits of this crop: it draws more
attention to the skiers. It is a good photo, but it's a different one.
For that intent, I would go even a bit more agressively:
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-6.jpg
or even
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-7.jpg


My initial intent, however, is to present the mountains where
skiers are just one of the "features", not the dominating one. And that is
what I wanted to achieve.
For that here are a few versions:
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-1.jpg
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-2.jpg
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-3.jpg

I've also considered some "intermediate" (between the two intents) option:
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-4.jpg

For reference, this is the original version:
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-0.jpg

My personal preference at this point is as follows:
For the "full panorama" intent  -1 or -2.  (Sometimes I think -3 works too.)
For the "skiing mountain" intent, I prefer -7.

I would be curious to hear what PDMLers think about these different versions.


All these files can be accessed directly from this page:
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/
Numbers 0-7 correspond to the (non-uniform) progression of cropping, from 
none to the max.



Igor



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Re: PESO - Snowbird panorama - variants of different crops.

2017-03-04 Thread Mark C
I like Annsan's crop or the variants on it (#6, #7) the best. It does 
put the focus on the skiers more but the photo works better. The right 
side is sort of hanging in space but it creates a nice tension in the 
image - feels like the skiers will be swooping off to whatever on their 
way down.


Mark

On 3/2/2017 12:27 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Thanks to all who commented on the two panoramas!

I took a few moments away from all the urgent issues that piled up 
after several travels to play with the crops I had in mind.

It is interesting how different crops can work for different purposes.

In an off-list communication, Ann proposed a crop that corresponds to 
her vision (posted with her permission):

http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/igorssnowscenecroppedbyann.jpg
(Many thanks to Ann for the time and energy in making this!)

I can clearly see the merits of this crop: it draws more
attention to the skiers. It is a good photo, but it's a different one.
For that intent, I would go even a bit more agressively:
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-6.jpg
or even
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-7.jpg


My initial intent, however, is to present the mountains where
skiers are just one of the "features", not the dominating one. And 
that is

what I wanted to achieve.
For that here are a few versions:
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-1.jpg
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-2.jpg
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-3.jpg

I've also considered some "intermediate" (between the two intents) 
option:

http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-4.jpg

For reference, this is the original version:
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-0.jpg

My personal preference at this point is as follows:
 For the "full panorama" intent  -1 or -2.  (Sometimes I think -3 
works too.)

For the "skiing mountain" intent, I prefer -7.

I would be curious to hear what PDMLers think about these different 
versions.



All these files can be accessed directly from this page:
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/
Numbers 0-7 correspond to the (non-uniform) progression of cropping, 
from none to the max.



Igor




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Re: PESO - Snowbird panorama - variants of different crops.

2017-03-02 Thread ann sanfedele

Igor -
I have to say that I definitely like your numbers 6 and 7 every bit as 
much as what I initially suggested to you... they bring definition to 
the platform on the left and the gradually diminishing and scattered for 
of the skiers is a nice pattern.. and it brings in the main mountain 
into more promenance as well...


Happy you are enjoying the exercise...

I'm still strongly in the camp of getting rid of Darth Vader on ther 
right hand side   ;-)


ann

On 3/2/2017 12:27 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Thanks to all who commented on the two panoramas!

I took a few moments away from all the urgent issues that piled up 
after several travels to play with the crops I had in mind.

It is interesting how different crops can work for different purposes.

In an off-list communication, Ann proposed a crop that corresponds to 
her vision (posted with her permission):

http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/igorssnowscenecroppedbyann.jpg
(Many thanks to Ann for the time and energy in making this!)

I can clearly see the merits of this crop: it draws more
attention to the skiers. It is a good photo, but it's a different one.
For that intent, I would go even a bit more agressively:
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-6.jpg
or even
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-7.jpg


My initial intent, however, is to present the mountains where
skiers are just one of the "features", not the dominating one. And 
that is

what I wanted to achieve.
For that here are a few versions:
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-1.jpg
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-2.jpg
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-3.jpg

I've also considered some "intermediate" (between the two intents) 
option:

http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-4.jpg

For reference, this is the original version:
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-0.jpg

My personal preference at this point is as follows:
 For the "full panorama" intent  -1 or -2.  (Sometimes I think -3 
works too.)

For the "skiing mountain" intent, I prefer -7.

I would be curious to hear what PDMLers think about these different 
versions.



All these files can be accessed directly from this page:
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/
Numbers 0-7 correspond to the (non-uniform) progression of cropping, 
from none to the max.



Igor




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PESO - Snowbird panorama - variants of different crops.

2017-03-02 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Thanks to all who commented on the two panoramas!

I took a few moments away from all the urgent issues that piled up after 
several travels to play with the crops I had in mind.

It is interesting how different crops can work for different purposes.

In an off-list communication, Ann proposed a crop that corresponds to 
her vision (posted with her permission):

http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/igorssnowscenecroppedbyann.jpg
(Many thanks to Ann for the time and energy in making this!)

I can clearly see the merits of this crop: it draws more
attention to the skiers. It is a good photo, but it's a different one.
For that intent, I would go even a bit more agressively:
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-6.jpg
or even
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-7.jpg


My initial intent, however, is to present the mountains where
skiers are just one of the "features", not the dominating one. And that is
what I wanted to achieve.
For that here are a few versions:
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-1.jpg
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-2.jpg
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-3.jpg

I've also considered some "intermediate" (between the two intents) 
option:

http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-4.jpg

For reference, this is the original version:
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/2017-02-PanoramaSnowBird-0.jpg

My personal preference at this point is as follows:
 For the "full panorama" intent  -1 or -2.  (Sometimes I think -3 works 
too.)

For the "skiing mountain" intent, I prefer -7.

I would be curious to hear what PDMLers think about these different 
versions.



All these files can be accessed directly from this page:
http://42graphy.org/misc/2017-02-Utah/
Numbers 0-7 correspond to the (non-uniform) progression of cropping, from 
none to the max.



Igor

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