POW Page
Hi ... I just put together my first web page to display a "Picture of the Week" photo. It's pretty simple, but perhaps nothing too fancy or complicated is needed just to show a picture. Be that as it may, I'd like some comments, especially WRT how fast/slow the page loads for you and any thoughts you may have regarding layout, coding, etc. Looking forward to your comments. Thanks! http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow.html -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: POW Page
Shel, It loads fast enough although I was surprised to see it was an 80K file. I am used to getting 16 bit color into a 50K file for the PUG, so I'm surprised to see a 600x400 pixel black and white be quite that large. There are definitely less shades of black than there are color shades. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I just put together my first web page to display a "Picture of the Week" photo. It's pretty simple, but perhaps nothing too fancy or complicated is needed just to show a picture. Be that as it may, I'd like some comments, especially WRT how fast/slow the page loads for you and any thoughts you may have regarding layout, coding, etc. Looking forward to your comments. Thanks! http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow.html >> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: POW Page
Shel, The page loads quite rapidly. And I like the simplicity and the grey background. It's like a good mat. It let's the photograph be the focal point. And this is certainly a most worthy photo. Very emotive and compelling. (We Detroiters are actually quite partial to abandoned imports, rotting away in a field.) Excellent scan as well. Bravo. Paul Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > Hi ... > > I just put together my first web page to display a "Picture of the Week" > photo. It's pretty simple, but perhaps nothing too fancy or complicated > is needed just to show a picture. Be that as it may, I'd like some > comments, especially WRT how fast/slow the page loads for you and any > thoughts you may have regarding layout, coding, etc. Looking forward to > your comments. Thanks! > > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow.html > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: POW Page
Hi Bob ... Thanks for your comments. The size may be the result of how I saved the picture to a JPEG. In Photoshop there's a way to define the quality, and I chose medium, which yielded a file of a smaller size than high quality. Perhaps for the web I can get by with a lower setting, which may yield a smaller file size, although still with 600x400 dimensions. I'll try it and see what happens. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Shel, > It loads fast enough although I was surprised to see it was an 80K file. I > am used to getting 16 bit color into a 50K file for the PUG, so I'm surprised > to see a 600x400 pixel black and white be quite that large. There are > definitely less shades of black than there are color shades. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Thanks for the feedback, Paul. The next thing is to learn how to set up links to subsequent and previous pages. I found a way to do it but I'm not sure if it's the best and most efficient way to link pages. It's fun, though ... PAUL STENQUIST wrote: > The page loads quite rapidly. And I like > the simplicity and the grey background. It's > like a good mat. It let's the photograph be > the focal point. And this is certainly a > most worthy photo. Very emotive and > compelling. (We Detroiters are actually > quite partial to abandoned imports, rotting > away in a field.) Excellent scan as well. Bravo. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: POW Page
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 11:12 AM Subject: POW Page > Hi ... > > I just put together my first web page to display a "Picture of the Week" > photo. It's pretty simple, but perhaps nothing too fancy or complicated > is needed just to show a picture. Be that as it may, I'd like some > comments, especially WRT how fast/slow the page loads for you and any > thoughts you may have regarding layout, coding, etc. Looking forward to > your comments. Thanks! > > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow.html Hmmm,.. Funny html. Why did you put a header tag in when you have no style sheet? You are missing a W3C declaration, which is pretty much a formality most of the time. Also, if you move the tag to the end of the page, just before the tag, then all of the letters will be the same font. On my machine, the default font is Comic Sans MS, which looks a bit odd with Arial. I am not sure if this is something I would have photographed, though I quite like the composition. Can you see detail on the front top edge of the trailer or is it my monitor? It looks a bit burned out here. That is a lovely stand of Pampass grass, I suspect I would have been drawn to it, and missed the picture you got. I am not seeing enough detail in the deep shadow at the bottom of the trees. Does this show up better on the print? I like that you are between the ends of the internet. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: POW Page
William Robb wrote: > Hmmm,.. Funny html. Why did you put a header tag in when you > have no style sheet? What's a header tag (the title?)? What's a style sheet? > You are missing a W3C declaration [...] What's a W3C declaration and how will it improve what one sees on the screen? > Also, if you move the tag to the end of the page, just > before the tag, then all of the letters will be the > same font. Good tip! I think I did it right this time. If you don't mind checking, I'd appreciate it. Actually, I'll send you the code privately and if you want to show me a better, simpler way of doing things, I'd love to learn. > Can you see detail on the > front top edge of the trailer > or is it my monitor? Yes, but just barely. However, there's more detail in the neg and the original scan. I need more practice with Photoshop techniques. > I am not seeing enough detail > in the deep shadow at the bottom > of the trees. Does this show up > better on the print? Never made a print of this one, but there's lots of detail in the original scan and plenty showing on my monitor. > I like that you are between the ends of the internet. I'll be moving to a better neighborhood shortly, once the new highway is built . -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: POW Page
Thanks ... suggestion taken and correction made. Doug Franklin wrote: > only thing I noticed was that the four of them disagreed about where to > put the "Back" and "Next" buttons. Two browsers put them on the same > line as as the caption, and two put them on the next line, centered > horizontally. You might want to put the buttons in a paragraph of > their own (...) so the page gets rendered more consistently > across browsers. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: POW Page
The scans are saved in TIFF or PSD format, which I then converted to JPEG for the web. In what way(s) is XAT better than other methods? Doug Franklin wrote: > > The size may be the result of how I saved the picture to a JPEG. In > > Photoshop there's a way to define the quality, and I chose medium, which > > yielded a file of a smaller size than high quality. Perhaps for the web > > I can get by with a lower setting, which may yield a smaller file size, > > although still with 600x400 dimensions. I'll try it and see what > > happens. > > Go to http://www.xat.com and get an evaluation copy of their XAT Image > Optimizer. Then, save your scans as BMP or TIFF or PNG or some other > lossless compression format, and let XAT convert the images to JPEG. > It does a much better job than the "Save as JPEG" option of any program > I've tried, including PhotoShop 6. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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No problem loading the page, quick. I do read, a lot, and I think the butterfly is cool... Norm Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Hi ... > > I just put together my first web page to display a "Picture of the Week" > photo. It's pretty simple, but perhaps nothing too fancy or complicated > is needed just to show a picture. Be that as it may, I'd like some > comments, especially WRT how fast/slow the page loads for you and any > thoughts you may have regarding layout, coding, etc. Looking forward to > your comments. Thanks! > > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow.html > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: POW Page
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" < Subject: Re: POW Page > OK, but what did I do that's a "header tag"? Can you point to the line > of code? Since you asked. I applied a basic declaration () to your page and then parsed it with a W3C service. Here is what it said about your page: Line 5, column 36: Picture of the Week ^ Error: element "H3" not allowed here; possible cause is an inline element containing a block-level element Line 6, column 61: http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/twohondas.jpg";> ^ Error: required attribute "ALT" not specified Line 7, column 3: Two old Hondas abandoned in a field near my house ^ Error: element "H5" not allowed here; possible cause is an inline element containing a block-level element Line 7, column 11: Two old Hondas abandoned in a field near my house ^ Error: element "CENTER" not allowed here; possible cause is an inline element containing a block-level element Line 8, column 7: Leica M3 with 90mm Elmarit, Delta 100 ^ Error: element "CENTER" not allowed here; possible cause is an inline element containing a block-level element Line 9, column 2: ^ Error: element "P" not allowed here; possible cause is an inline element containing a block-level element Line 9, column 10: ^ Error: element "CENTER" not allowed here; possible cause is an inline element containing a block-level element Line 13, column 19: ^ Error: end tag for "H5" omitted; possible causes include a missing end tag, improper nesting of elements, or use of an element where it is not allowed Line 7, column 0: Two old Hondas abandoned in a field near my house ^ Error: start tag was here Line 14, column 6: ^ Error: end tag for "CENTER" omitted; possible causes include a missing end tag, improper nesting of elements, or use of an element where it is not allowed Line 4, column 0: ^ Error: start tag was here It is amazing sometimes that a page can work at all, but this is the nature of HTML. Standards are put in place, then ignored with a smile and a wink and mostly, the html readers can figure it out. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
