Peso-Anonymous(?)
This blossom was shot near the edge of the pond where my recent post, "Hunting Egret" was shot. Am mildly curious if anyone knows it's common name. Thanks! C&C J http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=945 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Rose of Sharon, perhaps? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_of_Sharon http://landscaping.about.com/od/shrubsbushes/p/rose_of_sharon.htm Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > > > This blossom was shot near the edge of the pond where my recent post, > "Hunting Egret" was shot. > Am mildly curious if anyone knows it's common name. Thanks! > > C&C > > J > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=945 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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ah - I got that one desert rose mallow (pretty sure, anyway) annn On 7/13/2015 5:49 PM, Jack Davis wrote: This blossom was shot near the edge of the pond where my recent post, "Hunting Egret" was shot. Am mildly curious if anyone knows it's common name. Thanks! C&C J http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=945 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Ann! It's a desert rose mallow from now on. :o) J - Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 7:02:46 PM Subject: Re: Peso-Anonymous(?) ah - I got that one desert rose mallow (pretty sure, anyway) annn On 7/13/2015 5:49 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > > This blossom was shot near the edge of the pond where my recent post, > "Hunting Egret" was shot. > Am mildly curious if anyone knows it's common name. Thanks! > > C&C > > J > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=945 > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Dan! "Perhaps" is close enough. J - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 5:34:45 PM Subject: Re: Peso-Anonymous(?) Rose of Sharon, perhaps? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_of_Sharon http://landscaping.about.com/od/shrubsbushes/p/rose_of_sharon.htm Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > > > This blossom was shot near the edge of the pond where my recent post, > "Hunting Egret" was shot. > Am mildly curious if anyone knows it's common name. Thanks! > > C&C > > J > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=945 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Definitely a wild hibiscus, probably Hibiscus moscheutos (swamp rose-mallow). Alan C -Original Message- From: Jack Davis Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 11:49 PM To: PDML Subject: Peso-Anonymous(?) This blossom was shot near the edge of the pond where my recent post, "Hunting Egret" was shot. Am mildly curious if anyone knows it's common name. Thanks! C&C J http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=945 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Beautiful! Cheers, frank On 13 July, 2015 5:49:40 PM EDT, Jack Davis wrote: > > >This blossom was shot near the edge of the pond where my recent post, >"Hunting Egret" was shot. >Am mildly curious if anyone knows it's common name. Thanks! > >C&C > >J > >http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=945 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Okay, Thanks, Alan C! J - Original Message - From: "Alan C" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 9:22:13 PM Subject: Re: Peso-Anonymous(?) Definitely a wild hibiscus, probably Hibiscus moscheutos (swamp rose-mallow). Alan C -Original Message- From: Jack Davis Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 11:49 PM To: PDML Subject: Peso-Anonymous(?) This blossom was shot near the edge of the pond where my recent post, "Hunting Egret" was shot. Am mildly curious if anyone knows it's common name. Thanks! C&C J http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=945 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Generous, Frank! Thanks! J - Original Message - From: "Knarf" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 10:20:52 PM Subject: Re: Peso-Anonymous(?) Beautiful! Cheers, frank On 13 July, 2015 5:49:40 PM EDT, Jack Davis wrote: > > >This blossom was shot near the edge of the pond where my recent post, >"Hunting Egret" was shot. >Am mildly curious if anyone knows it's common name. Thanks! > >C&C > >J > >http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=945 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Alan and Dan - what Jack photo'ed is growing wild out west.. desert rose-mallow is a common name in those parts for one (or some?) species of Hibiscusthat is commonly found in the southwest US-- however whenI looked it up by that name the photo I saw didn't have such fat leaves... so now I'm stumped. http://blog.growingwithscience.com/2015/06/seed-of-the-week-desert-rosemallow/ ann On 7/14/2015 12:22 AM, Alan C wrote: Definitely a wild hibiscus, probably Hibiscus moscheutos (swamp rose-mallow). Alan C -Original Message- From: Jack Davis Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 11:49 PM To: PDML Subject: Peso-Anonymous(?) This blossom was shot near the edge of the pond where my recent post, "Hunting Egret" was shot. Am mildly curious if anyone knows it's common name. Thanks! C&C J http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=945 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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They look quite similar & have probably been domesticated, hybridised & spread around by horticulturalists. I picked the swamp variety because Jack found it on the edge of a dam. There are so many varieties to be found worldwide: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibiscus Alan C -Original Message- From: ann sanfedele Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 2:48 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Peso-Anonymous(?) Alan and Dan - what Jack photo'ed is growing wild out west.. desert rose-mallow is a common name in those parts for one (or some?) species of Hibiscusthat is commonly found in the southwest US-- however whenI looked it up by that name the photo I saw didn't have such fat leaves... so now I'm stumped. http://blog.growingwithscience.com/2015/06/seed-of-the-week-desert-rosemallow/ ann On 7/14/2015 12:22 AM, Alan C wrote: Definitely a wild hibiscus, probably Hibiscus moscheutos (swamp rose-mallow). Alan C -Original Message- From: Jack Davis Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 11:49 PM To: PDML Subject: Peso-Anonymous(?) This blossom was shot near the edge of the pond where my recent post, "Hunting Egret" was shot. Am mildly curious if anyone knows it's common name. Thanks! C&C J http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=945 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Have we decided that it's an Hibiscus coulteri? Thanks again, Ann! J - Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 5:48:43 AM Subject: Re: Peso-Anonymous(?) Alan and Dan - what Jack photo'ed is growing wild out west.. desert rose-mallow is a common name in those parts for one (or some?) species of Hibiscusthat is commonly found in the southwest US-- however whenI looked it up by that name the photo I saw didn't have such fat leaves... so now I'm stumped. http://blog.growingwithscience.com/2015/06/seed-of-the-week-desert-rosemallow/ ann On 7/14/2015 12:22 AM, Alan C wrote: > Definitely a wild hibiscus, probably Hibiscus moscheutos (swamp > rose-mallow). > > Alan C > > -Original Message- From: Jack Davis > Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 11:49 PM > To: PDML > Subject: Peso-Anonymous(?) > > > > This blossom was shot near the edge of the pond where my recent post, > "Hunting Egret" was shot. > Am mildly curious if anyone knows it's common name. Thanks! > > C&C > > J > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=945 > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hmmm...? Thanks, Dan! J Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 13, 2015, at 5:34 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > Rose of Sharon, perhaps? > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_of_Sharon > http://landscaping.about.com/od/shrubsbushes/p/rose_of_sharon.htm > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > >> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Jack Davis wrote: >> >> >> This blossom was shot near the edge of the pond where my recent post, >> "Hunting Egret" was shot. >> Am mildly curious if anyone knows it's common name. Thanks! >> >> C&C >> >> J >> >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=945 >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 7/14/2015 10:47 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Have we decided that it's an Hibiscus coulteri? Thanks again, Ann! J No, we have decided it ain't - because of the skinny leaves there are jsut too many dammed hibiscuses On an irrelevant to photography note - I won a challenge against US/World and Canadian Champion Scrabble player, Joel Wapnick, some years back In a fairly important tourney when he tried to get away with HIBISCI. A rare moment in my tourney history. Didn't keep him from winning that game though. I have beaten him, but not in any signifigant tourneys. Still friends though :-) ann - Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 5:48:43 AM Subject: Re: Peso-Anonymous(?) Alan and Dan - what Jack photo'ed is growing wild out west.. desert rose-mallow is a common name in those parts for one (or some?) species of Hibiscusthat is commonly found in the southwest US-- however whenI looked it up by that name the photo I saw didn't have such fat leaves... so now I'm stumped. http://blog.growingwithscience.com/2015/06/seed-of-the-week-desert-rosemallow/ ann On 7/14/2015 12:22 AM, Alan C wrote: Definitely a wild hibiscus, probably Hibiscus moscheutos (swamp rose-mallow). Alan C -Original Message- From: Jack Davis Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 11:49 PM To: PDML Subject: Peso-Anonymous(?) This blossom was shot near the edge of the pond where my recent post, "Hunting Egret" was shot. Am mildly curious if anyone knows it's common name. Thanks! C&C J http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=945 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 15 Jul 2015, at 22:52, ann sanfedele wrote: > >> On 7/14/2015 10:47 AM, Jack Davis wrote: >> Have we decided that it's an Hibiscus coulteri? >> Thanks again, Ann! >> >> J > No, we have decided it ain't - because of the skinny leaves there are jsut > too many dammed hibiscuses On an irrelevant to photography note - I won a > challenge against US/World and Canadian Champion Scrabble player, Joel > Wapnick, some years back In a fairly important tourney when he tried to get > away with HIBISCI. A rare moment in my tourney history. Didn't keep him from > winning that game though. I have beaten him, but not in any signifigant > tourneys. > Still friends though :-) ann >> >>> >>> >>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=945 Over here the dictionary that official Scrabble words come from is Chambers, and a Latin plural is not given, so hibiscuses is the plural in UK English too - and that's what is given in Chambers. It's interesting to note, though, the confusion online about the Latin plural, indeed about the gender and even existence of 'hibiscus' - at least one of the online dictionaries claims it is 2nd declension feminine - which doesn't exist! All 2nd declension nouns are masculine or neuter. My print dictionary (Collins) has hibiscum as the Latin for marsh-mallow, and does not have 'hibiscus' at all. Hibiscum is 2nd declension neuter, so the (nominative) plural is hibisca. In this form 'hibisci' exists as the genitive singular: 'of the marsh-mallow'. Some of the online etymologies give 'hibiscus', which is masculine, as a later Latin form (presumably later than the Golden Age) but they don't say how much later. So it changed gender during the course of its development - a genuine paradigm shift. In this later form 'hibisci' is the correct Latin nominative plural. So there you have it, in case anyone asks why it was disallowed. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KAfKFKBlZbM B P.s. I think it's H. moscheutos, which would make it a swamp marsh-mallow, and therefore a cross-language pleonasmic tautological redundancy. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Interesting about all the stuff about why the "I' isn't acceptable... I just knew it wasn't because I needed to know such things for labels on photos forstock... otherwise, given who played it, I might have let it go. I'll skip the youtube if ya dont mind ann On 7/15/2015 7:05 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: On 15 Jul 2015, at 22:52, ann sanfedele wrote: On 7/14/2015 10:47 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Have we decided that it's an Hibiscus coulteri? Thanks again, Ann! J No, we have decided it ain't - because of the skinny leaves there are jsut too many dammed hibiscuses On an irrelevant to photography note - I won a challenge against US/World and Canadian Champion Scrabble player, Joel Wapnick, some years back In a fairly important tourney when he tried to get away with HIBISCI. A rare moment in my tourney history. Didn't keep him from winning that game though. I have beaten him, but not in any signifigant tourneys. Still friends though :-) ann http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=945 Over here the dictionary that official Scrabble words come from is Chambers, and a Latin plural is not given, so hibiscuses is the plural in UK English too - and that's what is given in Chambers. It's interesting to note, though, the confusion online about the Latin plural, indeed about the gender and even existence of 'hibiscus' - at least one of the online dictionaries claims it is 2nd declension feminine - which doesn't exist! All 2nd declension nouns are masculine or neuter. My print dictionary (Collins) has hibiscum as the Latin for marsh-mallow, and does not have 'hibiscus' at all. Hibiscum is 2nd declension neuter, so the (nominative) plural is hibisca. In this form 'hibisci' exists as the genitive singular: 'of the marsh-mallow'. Some of the online etymologies give 'hibiscus', which is masculine, as a later Latin form (presumably later than the Golden Age) but they don't say how much later. So it changed gender during the course of its development - a genuine paradigm shift. In this later form 'hibisci' is the correct Latin nominative plural. So there you have it, in case anyone asks why it was disallowed. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KAfKFKBlZbM B P.s. I think it's H. moscheutos, which would make it a swamp marsh-mallow, and therefore a cross-language pleonasmic tautological redundancy. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
