Photoshop fakery in big prize winner?
Have a look: http://petapixel.com/2014/03/18/hipa-grand-prize-winner-looks-like-may-big-photoshop-fail/ I'm just about to head off to class but to me this looks like a photoshop fake that one of my students would do (not very good, that is). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop fakery in big prize winner?
The teacher’s arm does seem to have been pasted on, but that could be an illusion. The position of the arm juxtaposed against the cloak makes it appear to be unnatural. The teacher could have long arms, and the second layer of very loose fitting clothing might disguise the position of his arm. His left arm would also have to be bent at the elbow, making it appear to be shorter than the right arm.So it might be kosher. Although I’d have to say it’s probably a bad fake. But difficult to prove. On Mar 27, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Have a look: > http://petapixel.com/2014/03/18/hipa-grand-prize-winner-looks-like-may-big-photoshop-fail/ > > I'm just about to head off to class but to me this looks like a > photoshop fake that one of my students would do (not very good, that > is). > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop fakery in big prize winner?
Paul Stenquist wrote: >The teachers arm does seem to have been pasted on, but that could be an >illusion. >The position of the arm juxtaposed against the cloak makes it appear to be >unnatural. The teacher could have long arms, and the second layer of very >loose >fitting clothing might disguise the position of his arm. His left arm would >also >have to be bent at the elbow, making it appear to be shorter than the right >arm. >So it might be kosher. Although Id have to say its probably a bad fake. >But difficult to prove. Look at the magnified crop below the main picture. The sleeve is clearly a different material than the rest of the outer garment. Could be a different garment under a cloak? Nope, because it extends outside the cloak (or whatever it is) at bottom left. And try drawing a mental picture (or a physical one, in Photoshop) of how that arm is positioned. Where's his elbow? You'll find no remotely plausible location for his elbow, given the angle of his arm. I just loaded the image into Photoshop and brightened it up with Curves. It's even more obviously a ghastly fake. >On Mar 27, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > >> Have a look: >> http://petapixel.com/2014/03/18/hipa-grand-prize-winner-looks-like-may-big-photoshop-fail/ >> >> I'm just about to head off to class but to me this looks like a >> photoshop fake that one of my students would do (not very good, that >> is). >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yeah. It really becomes obvious when you lighten it some. That's a really ham-handed job of photoshopping. -p On 3/27/2014 12:47 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: The teacher’s arm does seem to have been pasted on, but that could be an illusion. The position of the arm juxtaposed against the cloak makes it appear to be unnatural. The teacher could have long arms, and the second layer of very loose fitting clothing might disguise the position of his arm. His left arm would also have to be bent at the elbow, making it appear to be shorter than the right arm. So it might be kosher. Although I’d have to say it’s probably a bad fake. But difficult to prove. Look at the magnified crop below the main picture. The sleeve is clearly a different material than the rest of the outer garment. Could be a different garment under a cloak? Nope, because it extends outside the cloak (or whatever it is) at bottom left. And try drawing a mental picture (or a physical one, in Photoshop) of how that arm is positioned. Where's his elbow? You'll find no remotely plausible location for his elbow, given the angle of his arm. I just loaded the image into Photoshop and brightened it up with Curves. It's even more obviously a ghastly fake. On Mar 27, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Have a look: http://petapixel.com/2014/03/18/hipa-grand-prize-winner-looks-like-may-big-photoshop-fail/ I'm just about to head off to class but to me this looks like a photoshop fake that one of my students would do (not very good, that is). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop fakery in big prize winner?
On Mar 27, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Paul Stenquist wrote: > >> The teacher’s arm does seem to have been pasted on, but that could be an >> illusion. >> The position of the arm juxtaposed against the cloak makes it appear to be >> unnatural. The teacher could have long arms, and the second layer of very >> loose >> fitting clothing might disguise the position of his arm. His left arm would >> also >> have to be bent at the elbow, making it appear to be shorter than the right >> arm. >> So it might be kosher. Although I’d have to say it’s probably a bad fake. >> But difficult to prove. > > Look at the magnified crop below the main picture. The sleeve is > clearly a different material than the rest of the outer garment. Could > be a different garment under a cloak? Nope, because it extends outside > the cloak (or whatever it is) at bottom left. Look at this magnified, brightened and sharpened crop of the magnified crop:-). http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17719831&size=lg The inter garment appears to be merely protruding from the outer garment, and there is a suggestion of the inner garment material behind the left hand as well. While it may very iell be a fake there doesn’t appear to be definitive evidence here. Perhaps more telling than the material of the garment on the arm is the bit of blur where it intersects the outer garment and the overlap of the light colored material. But none of that is positive proof of fakery.. Powerful suggestion, yes, but not posit proof. An examination of the high-res version may be much more revealing of course. Paul > > And try drawing a mental picture (or a physical one, in Photoshop) of > how that arm is positioned. Where's his elbow? You'll find no remotely > plausible location for his elbow, given the angle of his arm. > > I just loaded the image into Photoshop and brightened it up with > Curves. It's even more obviously a ghastly fake. > > >> On Mar 27, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Mark Roberts >> wrote: >> >>> Have a look: >>> http://petapixel.com/2014/03/18/hipa-grand-prize-winner-looks-like-may-big-photoshop-fail/ >>> >>> I'm just about to head off to class but to me this looks like a >>> photoshop fake that one of my students would do (not very good, that >>> is). >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop fakery in big prize winner?
Paul Stenquist wrote: >On Mar 27, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > >> Paul Stenquist wrote: >> >>> The teachers arm does seem to have been pasted on, but that could be an >>> illusion. >>> The position of the arm juxtaposed against the cloak makes it appear to be >>> unnatural. The teacher could have long arms, and the second layer of very >>> loose >>> fitting clothing might disguise the position of his arm. His left arm would >>> also >>> have to be bent at the elbow, making it appear to be shorter than the right >>> arm. >>> So it might be kosher. Although Id have to say its probably a bad fake. >>> But difficult to prove. >> >> Look at the magnified crop below the main picture. The sleeve is >> clearly a different material than the rest of the outer garment. Could >> be a different garment under a cloak? Nope, because it extends outside >> the cloak (or whatever it is) at bottom left. > >Look at this magnified, brightened and sharpened crop of the magnified >crop:-). http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17719831&size=lg Shame about that genetic deformity he as. With the 20-inch-long forearm and the 8-inch-long upper arm. Sorry, but that just makes the fakery even more obvious. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 27/03/2014 12:21 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Look at this magnified, brightened and sharpened crop of the magnified crop:-). http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17719831&size=lg The inter garment appears to be merely protruding from the outer garment, and there is a suggestion of the inner garment material behind the left hand as well. While it may very iell be a fake there doesn’t appear to be definitive evidence here. Perhaps more telling than the material of the garment on the arm is the bit of blur where it intersects the outer garment and the overlap of the light colored material. But none of that is positive proof of fakery.. Powerful suggestion, yes, but not posit proof. An examination of the high-res version may be much more revealing of course. His arm appears to be growing out of the middle of his chest. Hopefully this was a mercy win given to a grade 4 student. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mar 27, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Paul Stenquist wrote: > >> On Mar 27, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: >> >>> Paul Stenquist wrote: >>> The teacher’s arm does seem to have been pasted on, but that could be an illusion. The position of the arm juxtaposed against the cloak makes it appear to be unnatural. The teacher could have long arms, and the second layer of very loose fitting clothing might disguise the position of his arm. His left arm would also have to be bent at the elbow, making it appear to be shorter than the right arm. So it might be kosher. Although I’d have to say it’s probably a bad fake. But difficult to prove. >>> >>> Look at the magnified crop below the main picture. The sleeve is >>> clearly a different material than the rest of the outer garment. Could >>> be a different garment under a cloak? Nope, because it extends outside >>> the cloak (or whatever it is) at bottom left. >> >> Look at this magnified, brightened and sharpened crop of the magnified >> crop:-). http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17719831&size=lg > > Shame about that genetic deformity he as. With the 20-inch-long > forearm and the 8-inch-long upper arm. > > Sorry, but that just makes the fakery even more obvious. Yes, it does make it more obvious, but I still contend it’s not a slam dunk. His arm could be bent within that sleeve, so we might be seeing both part of the forearm and upper arm there. It doesn’t look right, but I’m not sure that the weirdness isn’t an illusion created by the garments. I do agree that it’s probably a fake, but I’m not sure that a jury could convict. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop fakery in big prize winner?
Just for discussion; Appears as though he is wearing something, perhaps of different material, draped over his shoulders. I think I can make out what MIGHT be an elbow "bump" near the bottom of a very full sleeve and in a "possibly" logical position.(??) All very murky and, maybe, for good reason. Jack - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 10:47 AM Subject: Re: Photoshop fakery in big prize winner? Paul Stenquist wrote: >The teacher’s arm does seem to have been pasted on, but that could be an >illusion. >The position of the arm juxtaposed against the cloak makes it appear to be >unnatural. The teacher could have long arms, and the second layer of very >loose >fitting clothing might disguise the position of his arm. His left arm would >also >have to be bent at the elbow, making it appear to be shorter than the right >arm. >So it might be kosher. Although I’d have to say it’s probably a bad fake. >But difficult to prove. Look at the magnified crop below the main picture. The sleeve is clearly a different material than the rest of the outer garment. Could be a different garment under a cloak? Nope, because it extends outside the cloak (or whatever it is) at bottom left. And try drawing a mental picture (or a physical one, in Photoshop) of how that arm is positioned. Where's his elbow? You'll find no remotely plausible location for his elbow, given the angle of his arm. I just loaded the image into Photoshop and brightened it up with Curves. It's even more obviously a ghastly fake. >On Mar 27, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > >> Have a look: >> http://petapixel.com/2014/03/18/hipa-grand-prize-winner-looks-like-may-big-photoshop-fail/ >> >> I'm just about to head off to class but to me this looks like a >> photoshop fake that one of my students would do (not very good, that >> is). >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/27/2014 12:51 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Have a look: http://petapixel.com/2014/03/18/hipa-grand-prize-winner-looks-like-may-big-photoshop-fail/ I'm just about to head off to class but to me this looks like a photoshop fake that one of my students would do (not very good, that is). Gotta' wonder about the judges that they couldn't see it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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fake or real, I wouldn't have shelled out that much for that photo.. ann On 3/27/2014 18:35, John wrote: On 3/27/2014 12:51 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Have a look: http://petapixel.com/2014/03/18/hipa-grand-prize-winner-looks-like-may-big-photoshop-fail/ I'm just about to head off to class but to me this looks like a photoshop fake that one of my students would do (not very good, that is). Gotta' wonder about the judges that they couldn't see it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 27/03/2014 6:39 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: fake or real, I wouldn't have shelled out that much for that photo.. As always, Ann gets right to the heart of the matter. :) bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bill wrote: >On 27/03/2014 6:39 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: >> fake or real, I wouldn't have shelled out that much for that photo.. > >As always, Ann gets right to the heart of the matter. :) Yeah. That guy didn't have much restraint with the Clarity slider, did he? -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
