Re: Photoshop musings
Got spamcopped from Yahoo, so I'll try again from the other side. On 9/26/2013 9:18 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: On 9/26/2013 5:34 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 25/9/13, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed: you do need to verfiy student or teacher status Correct. Which of course I won't be doing. My son sends a photocopy of his student ID to Adobe, they send back the serial. How big a package of it do they send? The box says "NET WT 24.8 OZ (1 LB 8.8 0Z)(703 g)", but "some settling of contents may occur." -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop musings
On 26/9/13, P.J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: >How big a package of it do they send? not arrived yet will report back -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop musings
On 9/26/2013 5:34 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 25/9/13, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed: you do need to verfiy student or teacher status Correct. Which of course I won't be doing. My son sends a photocopy of his student ID to Adobe, they send back the serial. How big a package of it do they send? -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop musings
On 25/9/13, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed: >you do need to verfiy student or teacher status Correct. Which of course I won't be doing. My son sends a photocopy of his student ID to Adobe, they send back the serial. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop musings
On 9/25/2013 7:32 PM, steve harley wrote: on 2013-09-24 20:08 John wrote CS6 Extended Student & Teacher Edition is $344 from Academic Superstore. Student/Teacher edition qualifies for upgrades just like regular shrink wrap editions. But I don't know if there's ever going to be a CS7 to upgrade to. no, there will never be a CS7; they simply wrote the CS6 upgrade terms before that was announced; you do need to verfiy student or teacher status Yeah, I had to do that with another Adobe product when I was a student & qualified for the student/teacher edition. Maybe it was Lightroom 3. It wasn't a big deal, I had to fax them a copy of my student ID & the receipt for my tuition that semester. Photoshop student/teacher never worked for me because I was already a registered user & the upgrade price was less than student/teacher. By the time CS6 came along with the jump to the extended edition I had already graduated. Student/teacher was a good deal because they didn't disqualify it from future upgrades. Maybe they'll see the error of their ways and someday there will be another version. I don't know, but for now, I'm not signing up for the clud version. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop musings
on 2013-09-24 20:08 John wrote CS6 Extended Student & Teacher Edition is $344 from Academic Superstore. Student/Teacher edition qualifies for upgrades just like regular shrink wrap editions. But I don't know if there's ever going to be a CS7 to upgrade to. no, there will never be a CS7; they simply wrote the CS6 upgrade terms before that was announced; you do need to verfiy student or teacher status -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop musings
On 24/9/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: > >I'm telling my students to grab a copy of CS6 fast if they can find >it. Interesting! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop musings
on 2013-09-24 17:09 Steve Cottrell wrote I have a personal aversion to anything cloud. please tune your aversion-detector to the term "subscription" Adobe's "Creative Cloud" (CC) is a marketing blunderbuss; "cloud" in the name is a complete misnomer for the core product, which is simply a subscription; there is a cloud storage feature as a minor add-on, but it's optional and to many users quite meaningless; the software is not cloud software, it is on your desktop there are pros and cons to buying CS6 instead; it is a perpetual license, but will gradually fall behind whatever wonderful things Adobe is adding to CC; in the US at least, the student price for CS6 _or_ CC is pretty good; i had a CC subscription until May, then dropped it and am considering doing some coursework in part to get reasonable pricing on Adobe products -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop musings
John wrote: >On 9/24/2013 8:59 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >> On Sep 24, 2013, at 4:09 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: >> >>> Interesting. Just spent 234 GBP on CS6 extended student edition for >>> Stef. He sends proof of his uni place and Adobe sends the serial. Of >>> course they much prefer to lock him into the cloud version, and the >>> student pricing is 16 quid a month. So after 15 months the software has >>> reached 'crossover'. That said, at least you get updates automatically. >>> I have a personal aversion to anything cloud. He gets to use Uni Macs >>> with CS on there but will be doing a lot of work on the move. >>> >>> Meh. I get along fine with CS1 (Photoshop 8) !!! >> >> If you get along fine with PS CS, you'd probably get along just fine with >> Photoshop Elements now. It likely has even more stuff in it and will be more >> compatible with OS X Mountain Lion and beyond. >> >> I run PSCS 5. I don't use it enough to do an update anymore. LR does 99.9% >> of everything I need. > >Do either one of them allow adjustment layers? Lightroom allows you to apply (multiple) adjustments with masks, which accomplishes pretty much everything a photographer would want to do with layers. Photoshop has become pretty much a graphic designer's tool these days. That's about all I use it for except in rare cases. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop musings
On 9/24/2013 8:59 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sep 24, 2013, at 4:09 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: Interesting. Just spent 234 GBP on CS6 extended student edition for Stef. He sends proof of his uni place and Adobe sends the serial. Of course they much prefer to lock him into the cloud version, and the student pricing is 16 quid a month. So after 15 months the software has reached 'crossover'. That said, at least you get updates automatically. I have a personal aversion to anything cloud. He gets to use Uni Macs with CS on there but will be doing a lot of work on the move. Meh. I get along fine with CS1 (Photoshop 8) !!! If you get along fine with PS CS, you'd probably get along just fine with Photoshop Elements now. It likely has even more stuff in it and will be more compatible with OS X Mountain Lion and beyond. I run PSCS 5. I don't use it enough to do an update anymore. LR does 99.9% of everything I need. G Do either one of them allow adjustment layers? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop musings
CS6 Extended Student & Teacher Edition is $344 from Academic Superstore. Student/Teacher edition qualifies for upgrades just like regular shrink wrap editions. But I don't know if there's ever going to be a CS7 to upgrade to. The upgrade from CS5 to CS6 Extended was $399. They didn't appear to offer a non-extended version of CS6 at the time I upgraded & they were also going through all that rigamarole about only allowing upgrades from one level back. On 9/24/2013 8:13 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Steve Cottrell wrote: Interesting. Just spent 234 GBP on CS6 extended student edition for Stef. He sends proof of his uni place and Adobe sends the serial. Of course they much prefer to lock him into the cloud version, and the student pricing is 16 quid a month. So after 15 months the software has reached 'crossover'. That said, at least you get updates automatically. I have a personal aversion to anything cloud. He gets to use Uni Macs with CS on there but will be doing a lot of work on the move. Meh. I get along fine with CS1 (Photoshop 8) !!! I'm telling my students to grab a copy of CS6 fast if they can find it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop musings
On 9/24/2013 7:09 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: Interesting. Just spent 234 GBP on CS6 extended student edition for Stef. He sends proof of his uni place and Adobe sends the serial. Of course they much prefer to lock him into the cloud version, and the student pricing is 16 quid a month. So after 15 months the software has reached 'crossover'. That said, at least you get updates automatically. I have a personal aversion to anything cloud. He gets to use Uni Macs with CS on there but will be doing a lot of work on the move. Meh. I get along fine with CS1 (Photoshop 8) !!! I thought it was just CS? It didn't become CS# until CS2. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop musings
On Sep 24, 2013, at 4:09 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > Interesting. Just spent 234 GBP on CS6 extended student edition for > Stef. He sends proof of his uni place and Adobe sends the serial. Of > course they much prefer to lock him into the cloud version, and the > student pricing is 16 quid a month. So after 15 months the software has > reached 'crossover'. That said, at least you get updates automatically. > I have a personal aversion to anything cloud. He gets to use Uni Macs > with CS on there but will be doing a lot of work on the move. > > Meh. I get along fine with CS1 (Photoshop 8) !!! If you get along fine with PS CS, you'd probably get along just fine with Photoshop Elements now. It likely has even more stuff in it and will be more compatible with OS X Mountain Lion and beyond. I run PSCS 5. I don't use it enough to do an update anymore. LR does 99.9% of everything I need. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop musings
Steve Cottrell wrote: >Interesting. Just spent 234 GBP on CS6 extended student edition for >Stef. He sends proof of his uni place and Adobe sends the serial. Of >course they much prefer to lock him into the cloud version, and the >student pricing is 16 quid a month. So after 15 months the software has >reached 'crossover'. That said, at least you get updates automatically. >I have a personal aversion to anything cloud. He gets to use Uni Macs >with CS on there but will be doing a lot of work on the move. > >Meh. I get along fine with CS1 (Photoshop 8) !!! By the way, Cotty. Sensible people like you are the reason we're getting the "cloud" thing rammed down our throats. They can't make (enough) money from satisfied customers who don't need to upgrade all the time. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photoshop musings
Steve Cottrell wrote: >Interesting. Just spent 234 GBP on CS6 extended student edition for >Stef. He sends proof of his uni place and Adobe sends the serial. Of >course they much prefer to lock him into the cloud version, and the >student pricing is 16 quid a month. So after 15 months the software has >reached 'crossover'. That said, at least you get updates automatically. >I have a personal aversion to anything cloud. He gets to use Uni Macs >with CS on there but will be doing a lot of work on the move. > >Meh. I get along fine with CS1 (Photoshop 8) !!! I'm telling my students to grab a copy of CS6 fast if they can find it. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Photoshop musings
Interesting. Just spent 234 GBP on CS6 extended student edition for Stef. He sends proof of his uni place and Adobe sends the serial. Of course they much prefer to lock him into the cloud version, and the student pricing is 16 quid a month. So after 15 months the software has reached 'crossover'. That said, at least you get updates automatically. I have a personal aversion to anything cloud. He gets to use Uni Macs with CS on there but will be doing a lot of work on the move. Meh. I get along fine with CS1 (Photoshop 8) !!! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.