Re: Pic of The week. What do you think?

2001-05-16 Thread Douglas E Harmon


From: Todd Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


:
: The reason why the cars seem still is because they are moving towards the
: camera.  If the were moving to the left or right there'd be a lot more
: blur.  Personally I would leave the cars alone, they aren't the subject.
: And if you blur the background more they may not be recognizable as cars,
: their headlights just a couple of distracting streaks along the bottom.
: But if you want to expirement with slower shutter speeds, an easy way to
: lose a few stops would be to put a polarizer on the lens.  I wouldn't try
a
: red filter, as the red on white sign would not show up well, but on the
: other hand a green filter should raise the contrast on the sign, maxing it
: black on white instead of dark grey on white.  Just a thought.

I was thinking of using an ND filter or slower film, but the thought of
using the usual B&W filters is not one I had for night time use.

l8r,
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Re: Pic of The week. What do you think?

2001-05-16 Thread Douglas E Harmon


From: Todd Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

: This is my kind of picture - I really like the visual irony of the sign.

Mine too.

: The DOF for a picture like this is complicated, as you want the sign to
: stand out, but at the same time want the building to be recognizable.  I
: would of blurred the background more, judging by the scan.  But at the
same
: time it would probably look just fine as a 8x10 print, as percieved DOF
: does have to do with enlargement size.

I'm going to take the neg to my local printer to have an 8x10 made to judge
the resolution, we'll see about the DOF.

: As for the cars/lights, I don't see them as distracting to the photo.
What
: is distracting to me is that thing in focus on the left side (tree?), and
: that white bar (flare?).  But with stuff like that sometimes there just
: isn't much you can do.  Maybe moving to the right a little, to get some
: space between the sideways sign and the building, then simply cropping out
: the tree/sideways sign might work - assuming you can move to the right, of
: course.  Also, maybe include more of the street on the bottom right to
help
: lead the viewer's eye from the sign to the building.

The white light seems to be another Traffic signal, that is a tree. If I had
an enlarger I could dodge out the light, and maybe the tree. Other comments
were made to crop left and I am going to hit the streets with more lenses
when I get the chance. Hopefully when it rains again, I like the effect of
thw wet streets.

l8r,
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Re: Pic of The week. What do you think?

2001-05-15 Thread Todd Stanley


The reason why the cars seem still is because they are moving towards the
camera.  If the were moving to the left or right there'd be a lot more
blur.  Personally I would leave the cars alone, they aren't the subject.
And if you blur the background more they may not be recognizable as cars,
their headlights just a couple of distracting streaks along the bottom.
But if you want to expirement with slower shutter speeds, an easy way to
lose a few stops would be to put a polarizer on the lens.  I wouldn't try a
red filter, as the red on white sign would not show up well, but on the
other hand a green filter should raise the contrast on the sign, maxing it
black on white instead of dark grey on white.  Just a thought.

Todd

At 10:08 AM 5/14/01 +0530, you wrote:
>
>Hi!
>
>Can you tell me the photographic details like shutter speed and aperture?
>The reason I am asking this is: There are two cars on the road at the
>bottom of the picture. Though they seem to stopped but they are almost at
>the middle of the road with its headlights on. So, it conveys the
>information that they were actually moving. If I have been in your place,
>I should have given a long exposure to catch the cars a stricks of light
>besides photographing the building. I think a slow speed film is required
>for that.
>
>I like those blobs of light from the street lights in your photograph.
>
>Cheers,
>Ayash Kanto.
>
>
>On Sun, 13 May 2001, Douglas E Harmon wrote:
>
>> Hey ya all,
>> This is a picture I took last week of the Freedom Tower here in Miami.
>> The Freedom tower was where many Cuban refugees were processed in the 60's
>> and 70's. I tried to leave the building as out of focus as possible but
>> still recognizable to stay off in the background. F50mm 1.7 @ F2.8 for 1/30
>> or 1/15. The main focus was the Do Not Enter sign. Could be a comment on
the
>> current state of the US imigration policy for Cuban refugees.
>> 
>> Here's my pic. What do you think?
>> http://personal.mia.bellsouth.net/mia/g/e/genius91/freedom.jpg
>> 
>> To see what's being done for the future of this building.
>> http://www.structural.net/News/media%20coverage/freedomtower.htm
>> 
>> l8r,
>> Douglas E Harmon
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> http://personal.mia.bellsouth.net/~genius91/
>> 
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Re: Pic of The week. What do you think?

2001-05-14 Thread Douglas E Harmon

From: Gianfranco Irlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

: Hi Douglas,
: I would have took a step to the right to avoid the sign on the left to
stay so
: close to the building and I also would have cropped completely the street

I was standing in the midle of a cross street to US1. I didn't have much
latitude. You are however correct, In fact I think I fell into the trap and
didn't even notice it when I was composing.

:(if I had the opportunity I'd have chosen a slightly longer focal lenght -
85mm
: maybe - to include in the picture the building and the sign only if the
: intention was to give the meaning you have suggested).

Unfortunately an 85mm and the right angle would have put me in the middle of
US1. Not a pleasing thought, even at 2AM. Maybe a 135mm or 150mm from across
US1.

:There are too many distracting things in the lower part of the frame that
drive the attention  away from the "Do Not Enter" sign.

Possibly, as noted I don't remember if I was aware of the stuff to the left.
Falling into the trap I am sure I saw two things, the building and the sign.
But maybe it makes it more of a picture to test your perception. So far I
had to explain it to a couple of people. It was interesting to see who "got
it" at work today. I was impressed by a couple of people.

Thanks,
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Re: Pic of The week. What do you think?

2001-05-14 Thread Douglas E Harmon


From: Ayash Kanto Mukherjee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

: Hi!
:
: Can you tell me the photographic details like shutter speed and aperture?

F2.8@either 1/30 or 1/15

: The reason I am asking this is: There are two cars on the road at the
bottom of the picture. Though they seem to stopped but they are almost at
the middle of the road with its headlights on. So, it conveys the
information that they were actually moving.

They must have just left that light. I think they would have blurred if they
had been up to speed. Even at 1/30.

:If I have been in your place, I should have given a long exposure to catch
the cars a stricks of light besides photographing the building. I think a
slow speed film is required for that.

I was trying to get the DOF down to keep the building out of focus. I think
I will retry at F1.7 with a roll of Plus-X. I was using Tri-X at the time,
my current favorite.

: I like those blobs of light from the street lights in your photograph.

 Not many mentions to the Bokeh of the F50 1.7, but it is pleasing.

: Cheers,
: Ayash Kanto.

Cheers,
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Re: Pic of The week. What do you think?

2001-05-14 Thread Douglas E Harmon

From: William Robb
: I think I would have knocked the building out of focus a bit
: more.

That's a little more than I had in mind, but I was definately trying to go
in that direction. The good thing is we can always go back and experiment
some more.

l8r,
Douglas E Harmon
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://personal.mia.bellsouth.net/~genius91/
- Original Message -
From: William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: Pic of The week. What do you think?


: I think I would have knocked the building out of focus a bit
: more.
: http://www.accesscomm.ca/users/wrobb/freedom.jpg
: for a q&d look at what I think.
: William Robb
: - Original Message -
: From: "Douglas E Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: Sent: May 13, 2001 7:33 PM
: Subject: Pic of The week. What do you think?
:
:
: > Hey ya all,
: > This is a picture I took last week of the Freedom Tower
: here in Miami.
: > The Freedom tower was where many Cuban refugees were processed
: in the 60's
: > and 70's. I tried to leave the building as out of focus as
: possible but
: > still recognizable to stay off in the background. F50mm 1.7 @
: F2.8 for 1/30
: > or 1/15. The main focus was the Do Not Enter sign. Could be a
: comment on the
: > current state of the US imigration policy for Cuban refugees.
: >
: > Here's my pic. What do you think?
: > http://personal.mia.bellsouth.net/mia/g/e/genius91/freedom.jpg
:
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Re: Pic of The week. What do you think?

2001-05-14 Thread Douglas E Harmon

From: William Robb
: I think I would have knocked the building out of focus a bit
: more.

That's a little more than I had in mind, but I was definately trying to go
in that direction. The good thing is we can always go back and experiment
some more. Maybe F1.7 next time will be the ticket? I can always bracket
around.

l8r,
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Re: Pic of The week. What do you think?

2001-05-14 Thread Douglas E Harmon

From: William Robb
: I think I would have knocked the building out of focus a bit
: more.

That's a little more than I had in mind, but I was definately trying to go
in that direction. The good thing is we can always go back and experiment
some more. Maybe F1.7 next time will be the ticket? I can always bracket
around.

l8r,
Douglas E Harmon
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Re: Pic of The week. What do you think?

2001-05-14 Thread Douglas E Harmon

From: William Robb
: I think I would have knocked the building out of focus a bit
: more.

That's a little more than I had in mind, but I was definately trying to go
in that direction. The good thing is we can always go back and experiment
some more. Maybe F1.7 next time will be the ticket? I can always bracket
around.

l8r,
Douglas E Harmon
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Re: Pic of The week. What do you think?

2001-05-13 Thread Ayash Kanto Mukherjee


Hi!

Can you tell me the photographic details like shutter speed and aperture?
The reason I am asking this is: There are two cars on the road at the
bottom of the picture. Though they seem to stopped but they are almost at
the middle of the road with its headlights on. So, it conveys the
information that they were actually moving. If I have been in your place,
I should have given a long exposure to catch the cars a stricks of light
besides photographing the building. I think a slow speed film is required
for that.

I like those blobs of light from the street lights in your photograph.

Cheers,
Ayash Kanto.


On Sun, 13 May 2001, Douglas E Harmon wrote:

> Hey ya all,
> This is a picture I took last week of the Freedom Tower here in Miami.
> The Freedom tower was where many Cuban refugees were processed in the 60's
> and 70's. I tried to leave the building as out of focus as possible but
> still recognizable to stay off in the background. F50mm 1.7 @ F2.8 for 1/30
> or 1/15. The main focus was the Do Not Enter sign. Could be a comment on the
> current state of the US imigration policy for Cuban refugees.
> 
> Here's my pic. What do you think?
> http://personal.mia.bellsouth.net/mia/g/e/genius91/freedom.jpg
> 
> To see what's being done for the future of this building.
> http://www.structural.net/News/media%20coverage/freedomtower.htm
> 
> l8r,
> Douglas E Harmon
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://personal.mia.bellsouth.net/~genius91/
> 
> 
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Re: Pic of The week. What do you think?

2001-05-13 Thread William Robb

I think I would have knocked the building out of focus a bit
more.
http://www.accesscomm.ca/users/wrobb/freedom.jpg
for a q&d look at what I think.
William Robb
- Original Message -
From: "Douglas E Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: May 13, 2001 7:33 PM
Subject: Pic of The week. What do you think?


> Hey ya all,
> This is a picture I took last week of the Freedom Tower
here in Miami.
> The Freedom tower was where many Cuban refugees were processed
in the 60's
> and 70's. I tried to leave the building as out of focus as
possible but
> still recognizable to stay off in the background. F50mm 1.7 @
F2.8 for 1/30
> or 1/15. The main focus was the Do Not Enter sign. Could be a
comment on the
> current state of the US imigration policy for Cuban refugees.
>
> Here's my pic. What do you think?
> http://personal.mia.bellsouth.net/mia/g/e/genius91/freedom.jpg


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Pic of The week. What do you think?

2001-05-13 Thread Douglas E Harmon

Hey ya all,
This is a picture I took last week of the Freedom Tower here in Miami.
The Freedom tower was where many Cuban refugees were processed in the 60's
and 70's. I tried to leave the building as out of focus as possible but
still recognizable to stay off in the background. F50mm 1.7 @ F2.8 for 1/30
or 1/15. The main focus was the Do Not Enter sign. Could be a comment on the
current state of the US imigration policy for Cuban refugees.

Here's my pic. What do you think?
http://personal.mia.bellsouth.net/mia/g/e/genius91/freedom.jpg

To see what's being done for the future of this building.
http://www.structural.net/News/media%20coverage/freedomtower.htm

l8r,
Douglas E Harmon
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://personal.mia.bellsouth.net/~genius91/


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