Scanning vs. Printing BW negs/BW basics

2002-09-24 Thread J. C. O'Connell

I'm finding that if I expose/develop a
BW neg just right for optical printing, that it
SCANS (Epson 2450) a little to dark (scanner
likes a little more density ). Is this
typical or a fault with my scanner/driver??
I'm using silverfast driver...

Second question (may be a little too basic
but what the hell).

Are under exposed BW negs sharper BUT grainier than
correctly exposed/developed?

And viceversa, are overexposed
BW negs softer(less sharp) but less grainier
than correctly exposed/developed?


JCO




RE: Scanning vs. Printing BW negs/BW basics

2002-09-24 Thread tom

> -Original Message-
> From: J. C. O'Connell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
>
> I'm finding that if I expose/develop a
> BW neg just right for optical printing, that it
> SCANS (Epson 2450) a little to dark (scanner
> likes a little more density ). Is this
> typical or a fault with my scanner/driver??
> I'm using silverfast driver...

I'm not exactly sure, though I know the contract I like for printing
is not the same my lab likes for scanning.

>
> Second question (may be a little too basic
> but what the hell).
>
> Are under exposed BW negs sharper BUT grainier than
> correctly exposed/developed?
>
> And viceversa, are overexposed
> BW negs softer(less sharp) but less grainier
> than correctly exposed/developed?

Generally bad exposure will increase grain either way. With
underexposure only the big sensitive grains get exposed. With
overexposure the grains clump up.

Sharpness varies, but both generally look unsharp to me...I guess
underexposure looks less sharp than over.

Just expose correctly!

tv




Re: Scanning vs. Printing BW negs/BW basics

2002-09-24 Thread Rob Studdert

On 24 Sep 2002 at 20:58, William Robb wrote:

> This, in part, is the siren song of larger negatives. You can
> get the shadow detail you want, and still have the sharpness
> needed to make a great print, simply because you are enlarging
> the negative less.

Mr Robb, do you have to make so much sense? :-)

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Re: Scanning vs. Printing BW negs/BW basics

2002-09-24 Thread William Robb


- Original Message -
From: Rob Studdert
Subject: Re: Scanning vs. Printing BW negs/BW basics


> On 24 Sep 2002 at 20:58, William Robb wrote:
>
> > This, in part, is the siren song of larger negatives. You
can
> > get the shadow detail you want, and still have the sharpness
> > needed to make a great print, simply because you are
enlarging
> > the negative less.
>
> Mr Robb, do you have to make so much sense? :-)
>
It lends me credibility in other threads.

William Robb




Re: Scanning vs. Printing BW negs/BW basics

2002-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts

I read about a technique for scanning BW negs recently (I forget where) that
seems to work pretty well, or at least better that the way I had been doing
things. The author recommended scanning the negs as color *positives*, using the
scanner's highest bit-depth and resolution. Get the levels approximately correct
before scanning, then scan and save. Open the image in photoshop, invert the
image and make final levels adjustments there.

A bit convoluted, but it does seem to produce good results. I'm still far form
satisfied with scanning traditional BW negatives (I don't use chromogenic BW
film) but I'm making progress. Slowly.

-- 
Mark Roberts
www.robertstech.com
Photography and writing