Re: Provia Processing Problem?

2004-02-27 Thread John Mustarde
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 08:00:17 +0100, you wrote:

>Hi
>This part of the film has not been exposed or not developed. I suggest it is
>caused by:
>1) Missing emulsion on this part of the film (film makers error) or has been
>scratched off before exposing.
>2) You accidently sckratched the emulsion off, or grease was applied on to
>the film before prosessed, preveneting processing in stis spot.
>
>I'd vote for grease!
>All the best
>
>Jens Bladt
>

I've got it. It's drool. Greasy drool.

The film technician was sneaking a snack on the job, complaining
vehemently to a co-worker about the low pay and terrible work
conditions and why the heck did they make so-and-so the new assistant
manager, and got himself so worked up that some greasy burrito drool
dribbled down his chin and onto your film. 

He saw the greasy drool gob quivering on the film strip, so he shook
it and waved it around trying to sling drool off, but it only spread
further, so he mashed the whole mess into the developer before anyone
could see what he'd done.  Than explains the triangular shape - the
drool hit the film and spread out by centrifugal force and action of
surface tension of the liquid.

Any more mysteries to be solved, just give me a call.

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Provia Processing Problem?

2004-02-26 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Recently shot a roll of Provia and, yesterday, when
examining the frames, I found this problem:

http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/provia.jpg

Any ideas on what it could be, what may have caused it?



Re: Provia Processing Problem?

2004-02-26 Thread mike wilson
No physical damage?

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> 
> Recently shot a roll of Provia and, yesterday, when
> examining the frames, I found this problem:
> 
> http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/provia.jpg
> 
> Any ideas on what it could be, what may have caused it?



Re: Provia Processing Problem?

2004-02-26 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Nope, none that I can see ... 

mike wilson wrote:
> 
> No physical damage?
> 
> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> >
> > Recently shot a roll of Provia and, yesterday, when
> > examining the frames, I found this problem:
> >
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/provia.jpg
> >
> > Any ideas on what it could be, what may have caused it?



Re: Provia Processing Problem?

2004-02-26 Thread mike wilson
I had a similar shape mark, once.  It was due to the film being loaded
in the d&d tank the wrong way round, so that the emulsion side was
resting on the holder and kept away from the soup.  It was slide film
but the mark was orange.

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> 
> Nope, none that I can see ...
> 
> mike wilson wrote:
> >
> > No physical damage?
> >
> > Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> > >
> > > Recently shot a roll of Provia and, yesterday, when
> > > examining the frames, I found this problem:
> > >
> > > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/provia.jpg
> > >
> > > Any ideas on what it could be, what may have caused it?



RE: Provia Processing Problem?

2004-02-26 Thread Rob Brigham
Looks like they used some tongs when it was still wet to me...

> -Original Message-
> From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 26 February 2004 21:54
> To: PDML
> Subject: Provia Processing Problem?
> 
> 
> Recently shot a roll of Provia and, yesterday, when
> examining the frames, I found this problem:
> 
> http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/provia.jpg
> 
> Any ideas on what it could be, what may have caused it?
> 
> 



Re: Provia Processing Problem?

2004-02-26 Thread mike wilson
It certainly _looks_ like something physical happened but Shel says no
damage.  Not watermark shaped, wrong colour for light leak or processing
botch.

Maybe you got a defective film?

Rob Brigham wrote:
> 
> Looks like they used some tongs when it was still wet to me...
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 26 February 2004 21:54
> > To: PDML
> > Subject: Provia Processing Problem?
> >
> >
> > Recently shot a roll of Provia and, yesterday, when
> > examining the frames, I found this problem:
> >
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/provia.jpg
> >
> > Any ideas on what it could be, what may have caused it?
> >
> >



Re: Provia Processing Problem?

2004-02-26 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Tongs?  You're velcome 

Rob Brigham wrote:
> 
> Looks like they used some tongs when it was still wet to me...

> > Recently shot a roll of Provia and, yesterday, when
> > examining the frames, I found this problem:
> >
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/provia.jpg
> >
> > Any ideas on what it could be, what may have caused it?
> >
> >



Re: Provia Processing Problem?

2004-02-26 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Someone suggested a light leak, however I tend to doubt that
as it probably would have shown up in more than just that
one spot on the roll.

mike wilson wrote:
> 
> I had a similar shape mark, once.  It was due to the film being loaded
> in the d&d tank the wrong way round, so that the emulsion side was
> resting on the holder and kept away from the soup.  It was slide film
> but the mark was orange.



Re: Provia Processing Problem?

2004-02-26 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Well, I'm gonna take a closer look at the area ... take it
out of the sleeve and see if there is any physical damage. 
But it doesn't look like there is 

mike wilson wrote:
> 
> It certainly _looks_ like something physical happened but Shel says no
> damage.  Not watermark shaped, wrong colour for light leak or processing
> botch.
> 
> Maybe you got a defective film?



Re: Provia Processing Problem?

2004-02-26 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Shel Belinkoff"
Subject: Provia Processing Problem?


> Recently shot a roll of Provia and, yesterday, when
> examining the frames, I found this problem:
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/provia.jpg
>
> Any ideas on what it could be, what may have caused it?

Shel, it pretty much has to be either a problem in the reversal bath
or under development at the second developer stage It looks like
something may have been in contact with the film for part of one of
those processing steps.

William Robb




Re: Provia Processing Problem?

2004-02-26 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Paul,

You appear so sure ... I like your confidence ;-)) although
I don't like the possibility 8-(  

Why do you think it's a light leak?  Why would it be only in
that one spot on the entire roll?

Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
> Hi Shel,
> It's a light leak.
> 
> On Feb 26, 2004, at 4:54 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> 
> > Recently shot a roll of Provia and, yesterday, when
> > examining the frames, I found this problem:
> >
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/provia.jpg
> >
> > Any ideas on what it could be, what may have caused it?
> >



Re: Provia Processing Problem?

2004-02-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Feb 26, 2004, at 9:28 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:



Why do you think it's a light leak?
Obviously, something caused the film to be more exposed right at this 
point. Thats why the positive is lighter. When the camera was wound, 
something might have moved and admitted light. if it was an artifact 
from tongs or another mechanical device, the result probably would have 
been the opposite: a darker or less exposed/less developed artifact. 
Winding  the film stresses the camera body and might intermittently 
admit light. Your streak bridges a couple of frames. What's more, it 
seems to open and diminish. Both are typical of a light leak that is 
evident when winding film.
  Why would it be only in
that one spot on the entire roll?
It could very well be that more stress was applied during that wind 
sequence. Or the part of the camera that leaks was directed toward the 
sun. Yes, it;s al conjecture, but that image dictated the 
conjecture.Paul
Paul Stenquist wrote:
Hi Shel,
It's a light leak.
On Feb 26, 2004, at 4:54 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Recently shot a roll of Provia and, yesterday, when
examining the frames, I found this problem:
http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/provia.jpg

Any ideas on what it could be, what may have caused it?