Re: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds

2005-02-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
Another option is the Sigma EF 500 DG super. You get P-TTL, high speed 
synch and a guide number of 160 at 105mm, which is quite a bit more pop 
than the AF360 FTZ.. BH sells it for $199.95. I ordered one just the 
other day and expect it today. I prveiously had the Sigma EF 500 DG ST, 
which is equally powerful but has no bells and whistles. Not as well 
made as my Pentax AF400T, which I will continue to use for a lot of 
things, but it's decent.

On Feb 18, 2005, at 3:00 AM, David Oswald wrote:
I currently have a Pentax AF330FTZ flash, and like the results it 
gives me on both my ZX-5n and my *ist-Ds.  But there are times that I 
would like a bounce feature, and on occasion, times that a little more 
range would be helpful.

Having used an AF500FTZ a few times I am considering buying one. It's 
essentially the tried and proven workhorse among Pentax's nicer 
flashes.  And you can find them on eBay for under $200 sometimes.

But then along comes the AF360FGZ, with its P-TTL metering 
compatibility, wider field of coverage, and other shiny new features, 
I'm kind of torn.

Can anyone who has used both comment on differences, and pros/cons of 
each?

Dave



Re: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds

2005-02-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I'm still debating on dedicated flash units. It would be nice to
have one flash that did everything the body could support.

Does the Sigma support second curtain sync and wireless mode
same as the 360? is it well made enough to not feel like it was
going to fall apart in a year? The Pentax 360 and 500 units are
very nicely made, but my dealer doesn't carry the Sigma line to
compare them. 

I think I might have asked this one time prior, but my memory is
going... ;-)

Godfrey

--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Another option is the Sigma EF 500 DG super. You get P-TTL,
 high speed 
 synch and a guide number of 160 at 105mm, which is quite a bit
 more pop 
 than the AF360 FTZ.. BH sells it for $199.95. I ordered one
 just the 
 other day and expect it today. I prveiously had the Sigma EF
 500 DG ST, 
 which is equally powerful but has no bells and whistles. Not
 as well 
 made as my Pentax AF400T, which I will continue to use for a
 lot of 
 things, but it's decent.
 
 On Feb 18, 2005, at 3:00 AM, David Oswald wrote:
 
  I currently have a Pentax AF330FTZ flash, and like the
 results it 
  gives me on both my ZX-5n and my *ist-Ds.  But there are
 times that I 
  would like a bounce feature, and on occasion, times that a
 little more 
  range would be helpful.
 
  Having used an AF500FTZ a few times I am considering buying
 one. It's 
  essentially the tried and proven workhorse among Pentax's
 nicer 
  flashes.  And you can find them on eBay for under $200
 sometimes.
 
  But then along comes the AF360FGZ, with its P-TTL metering 
  compatibility, wider field of coverage, and other shiny new
 features, 
  I'm kind of torn.
 
  Can anyone who has used both comment on differences, and
 pros/cons of 
  each?
 
  Dave
 
 
 




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RE: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds

2005-02-18 Thread Steve and Tanya

David, the AF360fgz, as well as being a smaller guide number, has another
limitation - it only has bounce, no swivel.  Therefore if shooting in a
portrait framing mode, you can't bounce the flash of the ceiling and you are
still stuck with direct flash.

Personally, the whole wireless thing was all too complex for me.  Now, my
AF360fgz is my backup flash, and the AF500ftz is my workhorse.  It is also
the only flash that has come any near providing consistent accurate exposure
for me when used together with the Starkist.

Tan.

Tanya Mayer Photography

Brisbane, Qld, Australia
www.tanyamayer.com
Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
Mobile +61 0437831247

-Original Message-
From: David Oswald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005 6:00 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds


I currently have a Pentax AF330FTZ flash, and like the results it gives
me on both my ZX-5n and my *ist-Ds.  But there are times that I would
like a bounce feature, and on occasion, times that a little more range
would be helpful.

Having used an AF500FTZ a few times I am considering buying one. It's
essentially the tried and proven workhorse among Pentax's nicer flashes.
  And you can find them on eBay for under $200 sometimes.

But then along comes the AF360FGZ, with its P-TTL metering
compatibility, wider field of coverage, and other shiny new features,
I'm kind of torn.

Can anyone who has used both comment on differences, and pros/cons of
each?

Dave




Re: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds

2005-02-18 Thread pnstenquist
My Sigma EF-500 DG Super arrived this afteroon, and I've done some testing. I 
have to say that i'm very impressed. It does high speed synch, trailing curtain 
shutter, P-TTL, contrast control, exposure compensation, etc. It seems to 
support all of the functions of the AF 360GFZ with output that's close to that 
of the AF 500FTZ. The head tilts and swivels unlike the 360, which apparently 
provides tilt only. This is important when taking vertical format pics and 
bouncing the flash. The build quality seems quite good. I tested the high speed 
synch, the trailing curtain shutter synch and the p-TTL operation at a variety 
of exposures and distances. All of the shots appeared to be properly exposed on 
the *istD lcd screen.
Paul


 I'm still debating on dedicated flash units. It would be nice to
 have one flash that did everything the body could support.
 
 Does the Sigma support second curtain sync and wireless mode
 same as the 360? is it well made enough to not feel like it was
 going to fall apart in a year? The Pentax 360 and 500 units are
 very nicely made, but my dealer doesn't carry the Sigma line to
 compare them. 
 
 I think I might have asked this one time prior, but my memory is
 going... ;-)
 
 Godfrey
 
 --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Another option is the Sigma EF 500 DG super. You get P-TTL,
  high speed 
  synch and a guide number of 160 at 105mm, which is quite a bit
  more pop 
  than the AF360 FTZ.. BH sells it for $199.95. I ordered one
  just the 
  other day and expect it today. I prveiously had the Sigma EF
  500 DG ST, 
  which is equally powerful but has no bells and whistles. Not
  as well 
  made as my Pentax AF400T, which I will continue to use for a
  lot of 
  things, but it's decent.
  
  On Feb 18, 2005, at 3:00 AM, David Oswald wrote:
  
   I currently have a Pentax AF330FTZ flash, and like the
  results it 
   gives me on both my ZX-5n and my *ist-Ds.  But there are
  times that I 
   would like a bounce feature, and on occasion, times that a
  little more 
   range would be helpful.
  
   Having used an AF500FTZ a few times I am considering buying
  one. It's 
   essentially the tried and proven workhorse among Pentax's
  nicer 
   flashes.  And you can find them on eBay for under $200
  sometimes.
  
   But then along comes the AF360FGZ, with its P-TTL metering 
   compatibility, wider field of coverage, and other shiny new
  features, 
   I'm kind of torn.
  
   Can anyone who has used both comment on differences, and
  pros/cons of 
   each?
  
   Dave
  
  
  
 
 
   
   
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RE: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds

2005-02-18 Thread pnstenquist
Hi there young lady. Good to see you posting here. 
Paul


 
 David, the AF360fgz, as well as being a smaller guide number, has another
 limitation - it only has bounce, no swivel.  Therefore if shooting in a
 portrait framing mode, you can't bounce the flash of the ceiling and you are
 still stuck with direct flash.
 
 Personally, the whole wireless thing was all too complex for me.  Now, my
 AF360fgz is my backup flash, and the AF500ftz is my workhorse.  It is also
 the only flash that has come any near providing consistent accurate exposure
 for me when used together with the Starkist.
 
 Tan.
 
 Tanya Mayer Photography
 
 Brisbane, Qld, Australia
 www.tanyamayer.com
 Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
 Mobile +61 0437831247
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Oswald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005 6:00 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds
 
 
 I currently have a Pentax AF330FTZ flash, and like the results it gives
 me on both my ZX-5n and my *ist-Ds.  But there are times that I would
 like a bounce feature, and on occasion, times that a little more range
 would be helpful.
 
 Having used an AF500FTZ a few times I am considering buying one. It's
 essentially the tried and proven workhorse among Pentax's nicer flashes.
   And you can find them on eBay for under $200 sometimes.
 
 But then along comes the AF360FGZ, with its P-TTL metering
 compatibility, wider field of coverage, and other shiny new features,
 I'm kind of torn.
 
 Can anyone who has used both comment on differences, and pros/cons of
 each?
 
 Dave
 
 



Re: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds

2005-02-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm still debating on dedicated flash units. It would be nice to
have one flash that did everything the body could support.

Does the Sigma support second curtain sync and wireless mode
same as the 360? is it well made enough to not feel like it was
going to fall apart in a year? The Pentax 360 and 500 units are
very nicely made, but my dealer doesn't carry the Sigma line to
compare them. 

I have the Sigma and I'm very pleased with it. It *does* support
wireless mode and second-curtain sync. Construction seems very solid.
Probably *better* than my AF400 FTZ, but I haven't had an AF500 FTZ or
AF360 FTG so I can't say how it compares to those.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



RE: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds

2005-02-18 Thread Steve and Tanya

hey Paul!  yep, i's alive

hehe, glad that you all seem to remember me!

tan. :)

Tanya Mayer Photography

Brisbane, Qld, Australia
www.tanyamayer.com
Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
Mobile +61 0437831247

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 19 February 2005 9:42 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds


Hi there young lady. Good to see you posting here.
Paul



 David, the AF360fgz, as well as being a smaller guide number, has another
 limitation - it only has bounce, no swivel.  Therefore if shooting in a
 portrait framing mode, you can't bounce the flash of the ceiling and you
are
 still stuck with direct flash.

 Personally, the whole wireless thing was all too complex for me.  Now, my
 AF360fgz is my backup flash, and the AF500ftz is my workhorse.  It is also
 the only flash that has come any near providing consistent accurate
exposure
 for me when used together with the Starkist.

 Tan.

 Tanya Mayer Photography

 Brisbane, Qld, Australia
 www.tanyamayer.com
 Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
 Mobile +61 0437831247

 -Original Message-
 From: David Oswald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005 6:00 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds


 I currently have a Pentax AF330FTZ flash, and like the results it gives
 me on both my ZX-5n and my *ist-Ds.  But there are times that I would
 like a bounce feature, and on occasion, times that a little more range
 would be helpful.

 Having used an AF500FTZ a few times I am considering buying one. It's
 essentially the tried and proven workhorse among Pentax's nicer flashes.
   And you can find them on eBay for under $200 sometimes.

 But then along comes the AF360FGZ, with its P-TTL metering
 compatibility, wider field of coverage, and other shiny new features,
 I'm kind of torn.

 Can anyone who has used both comment on differences, and pros/cons of
 each?

 Dave






Re: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds

2005-02-18 Thread Peter J. Alling
After the recovery post how could we ever forget...
Steve and Tanya wrote:
hey Paul!  yep, i's alive
hehe, glad that you all seem to remember me!
tan. :)
Tanya Mayer Photography
Brisbane, Qld, Australia
www.tanyamayer.com
Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
Mobile +61 0437831247
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 19 February 2005 9:42 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds
Hi there young lady. Good to see you posting here.
Paul
 

David, the AF360fgz, as well as being a smaller guide number, has another
limitation - it only has bounce, no swivel.  Therefore if shooting in a
portrait framing mode, you can't bounce the flash of the ceiling and you
   

are
 

still stuck with direct flash.
Personally, the whole wireless thing was all too complex for me.  Now, my
AF360fgz is my backup flash, and the AF500ftz is my workhorse.  It is also
the only flash that has come any near providing consistent accurate
   

exposure
 

for me when used together with the Starkist.
Tan.
Tanya Mayer Photography
Brisbane, Qld, Australia
www.tanyamayer.com
Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
Mobile +61 0437831247
-Original Message-
From: David Oswald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005 6:00 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds
I currently have a Pentax AF330FTZ flash, and like the results it gives
me on both my ZX-5n and my *ist-Ds.  But there are times that I would
like a bounce feature, and on occasion, times that a little more range
would be helpful.
Having used an AF500FTZ a few times I am considering buying one. It's
essentially the tried and proven workhorse among Pentax's nicer flashes.
 And you can find them on eBay for under $200 sometimes.
But then along comes the AF360FGZ, with its P-TTL metering
compatibility, wider field of coverage, and other shiny new features,
I'm kind of torn.
Can anyone who has used both comment on differences, and pros/cons of
each?
Dave
   


 


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Re: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds

2005-02-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thanks for all the comments on the Sigma. I think I'll go for
one ... it's the same price as the 360, the swivel head and
additional power is well worth it to me. 

Godfrey

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