Re: Best high speed short telephoto?
Frankie Lee wrote: How about the performance of M 100/2.8? I have one, and do like it. In my searches for data on the lens, I have compiled the following: • It's identical to the Pentax-A version of the same specs • It's critical aperture is f/16, giving ~ 57 l/mm in the center, 51 l/mm in the corners. From there down to max. aperture, the resolution falls off. • It has great bokeh... All in all, I've decided it's a great daylight lens and I'm keeping it! ;-) keith whaley ** There's not much choice in the 70mm~90mm range except for the various 85mm lenses, both in screw mount and in K mount. They all tend to be a bit spendy, more or less. If you can live with it, a Super Takumar 105/2.8 may be just the thing. Comes in a K-mount as well. There's also the M 100/2.8. Shel [...]
Re: Best high speed short telephoto?
The old Vivitar 70-210/2.8-4 Series 1 zooms are well worth considering in this category. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: Best high speed short telephoto?
There's not much choice in the 70mm~90mm range except for the various 85mm lenses, both in screw mount and in K mount. They all tend to be a bit spendy, more or less. If you can live with it, a Super Takumar 105/2.8 may be just the thing. Comes in a K-mount as well. There's also the M 100/2.8. Shel [Original Message] From: Charles Robinson I'm looking for something that may not exist. Back in my film days when I shot a lot of concerts, I was quite fond of my 135mm f2.5 zoom. Not the sharpest lens on the planet, but the combination of reach and speed seemed to work well in combination with the 28 and 50mm lenses. These days, I have found that when shooting with my DS, I still like my old manual-focus lenses because they are faster (f5.6 just doesn't cut it on a dark stage). However, the 135mm lens tends to get me TOO CLOSE to my subjects. Seems like I want something in the 70-90mm range, that is no slower than about f/4. Doesn't have to be autofocus, or even an A lens as I tend to use them wide open in these situations anyways. Is there something reasonably-priced out there that would fill this void? I just don't have a clue. And, as you can probably guess, since I am already using the Takumar 135mm f2.5, I'm not hugely critical about sharpness and contrast. I mean, I like a well-focused clear image, but again - concert photography isn't exactly high art. Suggestions, anyone?
Re: Best high speed short telephoto?
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:41:22 +0200, Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems like I want something in the 70-90mm range, that is no slower than about f/4. Doesn't have to be autofocus, or even an A lens as I tend to use them wide open in these situations anyways. Is there something reasonably-priced out there that would fill this void? I just don't have a clue. From pentax there are several 85mm lenses, the M85/2 is supposed to cost about €150,-. I'm not sure if you'd call that reasonable... If you're willing to buy third party lenses: I can heartily recommend the Tamron SP90 1:2,5 macro. I paid €110,- for mine in mint condition, including a KA mount adaptall adapter and a matching extension tube. Most other 90mm third party macro lenses (vivitar, sigma, tokina) get rave reviews as well... Hope this helps, -- Regards, Lucas
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On 20/9/05, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed: Seems like I want something in the 70-90mm range, that is no slower than about f/4. Doesn't have to be autofocus, or even an A lens as I tend to use them wide open in these situations anyways. Is there something reasonably-priced out there that would fill this void? I just don't have a clue. The A*85mm f/1.4 is what you need. Depends how you define 'reasonably priced'. I paid about 900 USD for mine, and for what it is, that's very reasonable. Beaters at $400, mint at $1400. There isn't a better lens for the money IMO. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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The A*85mm f/1.4 is what you need. Indeed. Fred
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On Sep 20, 2005, at 9:10, Cotty wrote: The A*85mm f/1.4 is what you need. Agreed. I'd love it! Depends how you define 'reasonably priced'. I paid about 900 USD for mine, and for what it is, that's very reasonable. Beaters at $400, mint at $1400. There isn't a better lens for the money IMO. With the daughter just starting college, and both of our vehicles in about the $1000 value range, the thought of spending $1400 on a lens fills me with a fear at what would happen to my marriage if I should try something like that! I was thinking more like $100-150 for now. But I would LOVE the 85mm f1.4! My birthday is on Thursday. -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org
Re: Best high speed short telephoto?
I don't know about reasonable but the SMCP M 85 f2 works out to be the same angle of view as a 127mm on 35mm. You might want to look for a Jupiter 9 85mm, I believe they are still manufactured and are sold in M42 mount and even maybe K mount version. They're supposed to be fairly good as far as Russian Lenses go, and relatively inexpensive. Charles Robinson wrote: I'm looking for something that may not exist. Back in my film days when I shot a lot of concerts, I was quite fond of my 135mm f2.5 zoom. Not the sharpest lens on the planet, but the combination of reach and speed seemed to work well in combination with the 28 and 50mm lenses. These days, I have found that when shooting with my DS, I still like my old manual-focus lenses because they are faster (f5.6 just doesn't cut it on a dark stage). However, the 135mm lens tends to get me TOO CLOSE to my subjects. Seems like I want something in the 70-90mm range, that is no slower than about f/4. Doesn't have to be autofocus, or even an A lens as I tend to use them wide open in these situations anyways. Is there something reasonably-priced out there that would fill this void? I just don't have a clue. And, as you can probably guess, since I am already using the Takumar 135mm f2.5, I'm not hugely critical about sharpness and contrast. I mean, I like a well-focused clear image, but again - concert photography isn't exactly high art. Suggestions, anyone? -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
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I read somewhere recently that Pentax owns the Jupiter name ;-)) The lenses aren't too bad at least based on my limited experience with an 85mm version. Shel [Original Message] From: P. J. Alling I don't know about reasonable but the SMCP M 85 f2 works out to be the same angle of view as a 127mm on 35mm. You might want to look for a Jupiter 9 85mm, I believe they are still manufactured and are sold in M42 mount and even maybe K mount version. They're supposed to be fairly good as far as Russian Lenses go, and relatively inexpensive.
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Hello Charles, You might try looking at macro lenses. The Pentax 100/3.5 is quite inexpensive and you could also look for any of the 90-100/2.8 macros from any of the manufacturers used. These lenses are quite sharp to boot. KEH has a few Tamron/Sigmas in AF for around $300 and some manual focus stuff for around $200. That is the direction I would go. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, September 20, 2005, 6:41:22 AM, you wrote: CR I'm looking for something that may not exist. CR Back in my film days when I shot a lot of concerts, I was quite CR fond of my 135mm f2.5 zoom. Not the sharpest lens on the planet, but CR the combination of reach and speed seemed to work well in combination CR with the 28 and 50mm lenses. CR These days, I have found that when shooting with my DS, I still like CR my old manual-focus lenses because they are faster (f5.6 just doesn't CR cut it on a dark stage). However, the 135mm lens tends to get me TOO CR CLOSE to my subjects. CR Seems like I want something in the 70-90mm range, that is no slower CR than about f/4. Doesn't have to be autofocus, or even an A lens as CR I tend to use them wide open in these situations anyways. Is there CR something reasonably-priced out there that would fill this void? I CR just don't have a clue. CR And, as you can probably guess, since I am already using the Takumar CR 135mm f2.5, I'm not hugely critical about sharpness and contrast. I CR mean, I like a well-focused clear image, but again - concert CR photography isn't exactly high art. CR Suggestions, anyone? CR -Charles CR -- CR Charles Robinson CR [EMAIL PROTECTED] CR Minneapolis, MN CR http://charles.robinsontwins.org
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On Sep 20, 2005, at 6:41 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: Back in my film days when I shot a lot of concerts, I was quite fond of my 135mm f2.5 zoom. ... Seems like I want something in the 70-90mm range, that is no slower than about f/4. Doesn't have to be autofocus, or even an A lens as I tend to use them wide open in these situations anyways. Is there something reasonably-priced out there that would fill this void? ... In January, I found an M85/2 at KEH in bargain condition for $60. It was bargain because the lubricant in the focusing helicoid had congealed making the focusing action very very stiff; everything else about it is perfect. It was usable, however, and I found the lens produced such excellent image quality that I couldn't help sending it in for a CLA, add $100. Now it is flawless. The bugger-all Pentax clip-on lens hood as NOS cost me nearly half-again what the lens did, $28. So they are out there. I consider $188 for this small, light, fast lens to be a tremendous bargain. Some examples: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/11q.htm http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/11r.htm Godfrey
Re: Best high speed short telephoto?
Seems like I want something in the 70-90mm range, that is no slower than about f/4. Doesn't have to be autofocus, or even an A lens as I tend to use them wide open in these situations anyways. Is there something reasonably-priced out there that would fill this void? I just don't have a clue. How about the Vivtar Series 1 90/2.5? If it's like my 105/2.5 (which I dearly love), it's a KA. With the adapter, it even does 1:1 macro. Best regards, Stephen Moore
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On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 08:41:22AM -0500, Charles Robinson wrote: I'm looking for something that may not exist. Back in my film days when I shot a lot of concerts, I was quite fond of my 135mm f2.5 zoom. Not the sharpest lens on the planet, but the combination of reach and speed seemed to work well in combination with the 28 and 50mm lenses. These days, I have found that when shooting with my DS, I still like my old manual-focus lenses because they are faster (f5.6 just doesn't cut it on a dark stage). However, the 135mm lens tends to get me TOO CLOSE to my subjects. Seems like I want something in the 70-90mm range, that is no slower than about f/4. Doesn't have to be autofocus, or even an A lens as I tend to use them wide open in these situations anyways. Is there something reasonably-priced out there that would fill this void? I just don't have a clue. And, as you can probably guess, since I am already using the Takumar 135mm f2.5, I'm not hugely critical about sharpness and contrast. I mean, I like a well-focused clear image, but again - concert photography isn't exactly high art. Suggestions, anyone? -Charles How about the M 40-80/f2.8-f4 zoom? Not a stellar optical performer, but a useful focal length range.
Re: Best high speed short telephoto?
You might want to look for a Jupiter 9 85mm, I believe they are still manufactured and are sold in M42 mount and even maybe K mount version. I believe that they are only in screwmount trim. Zenitar DID produce a K-mount 85/1.4 lens, but it is very uncommon. (Scroll down to the bottom of http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/85compar/ .) Fred
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How about the Vivtar Series 1 90/2.5? If it's like my 105/2.5 (which I dearly love), it's a KA. A great lens, but I think it is an only pre-A lens. (I've never seen a Ka-mount version of this jewel.) Fred
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On Sep 20, 2005, at 13:51, John Francis wrote: How about the M 40-80/f2.8-f4 zoom? Not a stellar optical performer, but a useful focal length range. My Dad actually has one of those in his closet. I had forgotten about that I'll ask him to loan it to me and maybe I'll have a cheap (read: free) option right there! -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org
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On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 03:33:38PM -0500, Charles Robinson wrote: On Sep 20, 2005, at 13:51, John Francis wrote: How about the M 40-80/f2.8-f4 zoom? Not a stellar optical performer, but a useful focal length range. My Dad actually has one of those in his closet. I had forgotten about that I'll ask him to loan it to me and maybe I'll have a cheap (read: free) option right there! -Charles I've got one, too. It's sitting on a shelf with my M28/f2.8 and a 135/2.8 - lenses that I don't expect to use very often.
RE: Best high speed short telephoto?
How about the performance of M 100/2.8? ** There's not much choice in the 70mm~90mm range except for the various 85mm lenses, both in screw mount and in K mount. They all tend to be a bit spendy, more or less. If you can live with it, a Super Takumar 105/2.8 may be just the thing. Comes in a K-mount as well. There's also the M 100/2.8. Shel [Original Message] From: Charles Robinson I'm looking for something that may not exist. Back in my film days when I shot a lot of concerts, I was quite fond of my 135mm f2.5 zoom. Not the sharpest lens on the planet, but the combination of reach and speed seemed to work well in combination with the 28 and 50mm lenses. These days, I have found that when shooting with my DS, I still like my old manual-focus lenses because they are faster (f5.6 just doesn't cut it on a dark stage). However, the 135mm lens tends to get me TOO CLOSE to my subjects. Seems like I want something in the 70-90mm range, that is no slower than about f/4. Doesn't have to be autofocus, or even an A lens as I tend to use them wide open in these situations anyways. Is there something reasonably-priced out there that would fill this void? I just don't have a clue. And, as you can probably guess, since I am already using the Takumar 135mm f2.5, I'm not hugely critical about sharpness and contrast. I mean, I like a well-focused clear image, but again - concert photography isn't exactly high art. Suggestions, anyone? -- __ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.asiamail.com Send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze
