Re: Decisive moment available to everyone now!

2017-04-20 Thread P. J. Alling 
I don't think that's entirely true.  This is a leveler.  There's a 
saying supposedly from the Old West, God created Men, Sam Colt made them 
equal.  In a fight with clubs the bigger heavier opponent has an 
advantage in a fight with guns, a lot of that advantage goes away.


Let me tell a story, a few years ago, I visited some friends in Florida, 
and we had a day trip to a baseball spring training camp.  The nice 
thing about spring training is that you get to see actual pros in a park 
with less strictures than AA ball, and for my purposes at least, the 
pitcher wasn't trying quite so hard to keep the batter from actually 
getting a hit.


I planted myself on the sidelines pretty much just off the third base 
line, and shot few rolls of B trying to get the moment when the batter 
connected with the ball.  I kind of know baseball, used to watch a lot 
of AAA games, so I know at close range what to look for when the batter 
is actually going to take a swing.


I'm not a award winning sports photographer, but out of my four rolls or 
so of film I managed to get one shot where the batter connected, and a 
couple just after.  (damn, I really wish I knew where the negatives got 
to at this point).


I was shooting with an LX and the power winder and 300mm f4.0.  I got 
three almost shots and one good one out of four rolls of film.  All I 
had to do was hit the shutter button when the batter started to move.  
With the Sony I'd have gotten pretty much all of them closer than my 
three misses.


On 4/20/2017 3:21 PM, postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

Stanley Halpin  wrote:


If the photog doesn’t exercise some judgment, just guns away, all that has 
happened is that the
burden of finding the decisive moment has moved from the field to the editor’s 
desk. The technology
may be a game changer, but getting “the” shot may still be a rarity.

Moreover, this kind of technology will do nothing at all to reduce the
gap between the work of a talented pro and an unskilled amateur.




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Re: Decisive moment available to everyone now!

2017-04-20 Thread ann sanfedele 



On 4/20/2017 7:35 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Moreover, this kind of technology will do nothing at all to reduce the
gap between the work of a talented pro and an unskilled amateur.


From my experience, technology has little to do with the gap between the 

work of a talented pro and an unskilled amateur.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller


Or for that matter - the work of a talented amateur and an unskilled pro :-)

ann

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Re: Decisive moment available to everyone now!

2017-04-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
Only $5,000?

What a bargain.

Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 12:00 PM, P. J. Alling 
wrote:

> If you want to pay the price.
>
> So Sony's introduced the a9, a 20 frame/second 24mp camera with no EVF
> blackout.  Everything about it seems great.  If I were a professional
> sports photographer I'd really want this camera.  Yet I am saddened by it
> as well.
>
> It changes the skill set from knowing your equipment and the sport you're
> covering to something more like the skill set of a WWII, Russian sub
> machine-gunner detailed knowledge to get the right shot isn't necessary
> anymore.
>
> Now all you need is a general knowledge of where the action is most likely
> to take place and you can really spray and pray.  Odds are on every play
> something will be usable.
>
> It's a triumph of digital technology and yet it makes me feel that
> something important has been lost.
>
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Re: Decisive moment available to everyone now!

2017-04-20 Thread Ken Waller 

Moreover, this kind of technology will do nothing at all to reduce the
gap between the work of a talented pro and an unskilled amateur.


From my experience, technology has little to do with the gap between the 

work of a talented pro and an unskilled amateur.

Kenneth Waller
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From: <postmas...@robertstech.com>

Subject: Re: Decisive moment available to everyone now!


Stanley Halpin <s...@stans-photography.info> wrote:

If the photog doesn't exercise some judgment, just guns away, all that has 
happened is that the
burden of finding the decisive moment has moved from the field to the 
editor's desk. The technology

may be a game changer, but getting "the" shot may still be a rarity.


Moreover, this kind of technology will do nothing at all to reduce the
gap between the work of a talented pro and an unskilled amateur.


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Re: Decisive moment available to everyone now!

2017-04-20 Thread John Sessoms 

If you've got enough mega-pixels you don't even need that great of a
sense of direction or framing. You can crop it down to the image you
want in post.


On 4/20/2017 12:13, Bob W-PDML wrote:

It's no longer a decisive moment, but a decisive interval. You still
have to know which direction to point the camera, how to frame the
subject matter, and when to press the button.


On 20 Apr 2017, at 17:10, P. J. Alling  wrote:

If you want to pay the price.

So Sony's introduced the a9, a 20 frame/second 24mp camera with no
EVF blackout.  Everything about it seems great.  If I were a
professional sports photographer I'd really want this camera.  Yet
I am saddened by it as well.

It changes the skill set from knowing your equipment and the sport
you're covering to something more like the skill set of a WWII,
Russian sub machine-gunner detailed knowledge to get the right shot
isn't necessary anymore.

Now all you need is a general knowledge of where the action is most
likely to take place and you can really spray and pray.  Odds are
on every play something will be usable.

It's a triumph of digital technology and yet it makes me feel that something 
important has been lost.




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Re: Decisive moment available to everyone now!

2017-04-20 Thread postmaster 
Stanley Halpin  wrote:

>If the photog doesn’t exercise some judgment, just guns away, all that has 
>happened is that the 
>burden of finding the decisive moment has moved from the field to the editor’s 
>desk. The technology
> may be a game changer, but getting “the” shot may still be a rarity.

Moreover, this kind of technology will do nothing at all to reduce the
gap between the work of a talented pro and an unskilled amateur.

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Re: Decisive moment available to everyone now!

2017-04-20 Thread Stanley Halpin 
If the photog doesn’t exercise some judgment, just guns away, all that has 
happened is that the burden of finding the decisive moment has moved from the 
field to the editor’s desk. The technology may be a game changer, but getting 
“the” shot may still be a rarity.

stan

> On Apr 20, 2017, at 2:05 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> Yes, but it doesn't take nearly as much skill.
> 
> That's half what big name sports photographers used to get paid for, the 
> knowledge of the sport, not just where to point the camera, someone with a 
> bit more than passing knowledge can do that,  but when press the shutter to 
> capture the best possible shot.
> 
> Hell I remember when you had to focus the lens yourself and a lot of 
> newspaper sports photogs actually used Spotmatics rather than Nikons because 
> they were light weight, and the extras the Nikon gave didn't help all that 
> much.
> 
> Now I'm not saying we should go back to the good ol' days they kinda sucked.  
> But now we've actually reached the point where in, the minds of upper 
> management, a monkey can take the shot, and now they're almost right.
> 
> 
> On 4/20/2017 12:13 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
>> It's no longer a decisive moment, but a decisive interval. You still have to 
>> know which direction to point the camera, how to frame the subject matter, 
>> and when to press the button.
>> 
>>> On 20 Apr 2017, at 17:10, P. J. Alling  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you want to pay the price.
>>> 
>>> So Sony's introduced the a9, a 20 frame/second 24mp camera with no EVF 
>>> blackout.  Everything about it seems great.  If I were a professional 
>>> sports photographer I'd really want this camera.  Yet I am saddened by it 
>>> as well.
>>> 
>>> It changes the skill set from knowing your equipment and the sport you're 
>>> covering to something more like the skill set of a WWII, Russian sub 
>>> machine-gunner detailed knowledge to get the right shot isn't necessary 
>>> anymore.
>>> 
>>> Now all you need is a general knowledge of where the action is most likely 
>>> to take place and you can really spray and pray.  Odds are on every play 
>>> something will be usable.
>>> 
>>> It's a triumph of digital technology and yet it makes me feel that 
>>> something important has been lost.
>>> 


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Re: Decisive moment available to everyone now!

2017-04-20 Thread P. J. Alling 

Yes, but it doesn't take nearly as much skill.

That's half what big name sports photographers used to get paid for, the 
knowledge of the sport, not just where to point the camera, someone with 
a bit more than passing knowledge can do that,  but when press the 
shutter to capture the best possible shot.


Hell I remember when you had to focus the lens yourself and a lot of 
newspaper sports photogs actually used Spotmatics rather than Nikons 
because they were light weight, and the extras the Nikon gave didn't 
help all that much.


Now I'm not saying we should go back to the good ol' days they kinda 
sucked.  But now we've actually reached the point where in, the minds of 
upper management, a monkey can take the shot, and now they're almost right.



On 4/20/2017 12:13 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

It's no longer a decisive moment, but a decisive interval. You still have to 
know which direction to point the camera, how to frame the subject matter, and 
when to press the button.


On 20 Apr 2017, at 17:10, P. J. Alling  wrote:

If you want to pay the price.

So Sony's introduced the a9, a 20 frame/second 24mp camera with no EVF 
blackout.  Everything about it seems great.  If I were a professional sports 
photographer I'd really want this camera.  Yet I am saddened by it as well.

It changes the skill set from knowing your equipment and the sport you're 
covering to something more like the skill set of a WWII, Russian sub 
machine-gunner detailed knowledge to get the right shot isn't necessary anymore.

Now all you need is a general knowledge of where the action is most likely to 
take place and you can really spray and pray.  Odds are on every play something 
will be usable.

It's a triumph of digital technology and yet it makes me feel that something 
important has been lost.


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Re: Decisive moment available to everyone now!

2017-04-20 Thread ann sanfedele 

MARK!

On 4/20/2017 12:17 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

And a moment is just an interval that's too short to bother with





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Re: Decisive moment available to everyone now!

2017-04-20 Thread Bob W-PDML 
And a moment is just an interval that's too short to bother with

> On 20 Apr 2017, at 17:14, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> It's no longer a decisive moment, but a decisive interval. You still have to 
> know which direction to point the camera, how to frame the subject matter, 
> and when to press the button.
> 
>> On 20 Apr 2017, at 17:10, P. J. Alling  wrote:
>> 
>> If you want to pay the price.
>> 
>> So Sony's introduced the a9, a 20 frame/second 24mp camera with no EVF 
>> blackout.  Everything about it seems great.  If I were a professional sports 
>> photographer I'd really want this camera.  Yet I am saddened by it as well.
>> 
>> It changes the skill set from knowing your equipment and the sport you're 
>> covering to something more like the skill set of a WWII, Russian sub 
>> machine-gunner detailed knowledge to get the right shot isn't necessary 
>> anymore.
>> 
>> Now all you need is a general knowledge of where the action is most likely 
>> to take place and you can really spray and pray.  Odds are on every play 
>> something will be usable.
>> 
>> It's a triumph of digital technology and yet it makes me feel that something 
>> important has been lost.
>> 
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Re: Decisive moment available to everyone now!

2017-04-20 Thread Bob W-PDML 
It's no longer a decisive moment, but a decisive interval. You still have to 
know which direction to point the camera, how to frame the subject matter, and 
when to press the button.

> On 20 Apr 2017, at 17:10, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> If you want to pay the price.
> 
> So Sony's introduced the a9, a 20 frame/second 24mp camera with no EVF 
> blackout.  Everything about it seems great.  If I were a professional sports 
> photographer I'd really want this camera.  Yet I am saddened by it as well.
> 
> It changes the skill set from knowing your equipment and the sport you're 
> covering to something more like the skill set of a WWII, Russian sub 
> machine-gunner detailed knowledge to get the right shot isn't necessary 
> anymore.
> 
> Now all you need is a general knowledge of where the action is most likely to 
> take place and you can really spray and pray.  Odds are on every play 
> something will be usable.
> 
> It's a triumph of digital technology and yet it makes me feel that something 
> important has been lost.
> 
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Re: Decisive Moment

2016-08-26 Thread mike wilson 
The plane probably has little capacity left to discharge its duties, so it will
be grounded.

> On 27 August 2016 at 02:38 Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> 
> Ohm my goodness, no!
> 
> Just wondering watts next.
> 
> 
> On Aug 26, 2016, at 2:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> 
> > I'm sensing resistance to the current discussion.
> > 
> > Dan Matyola
> > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> > 
> > On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:18 PM, mike wilson 
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> Not to mention a load of static.
> >> 
> >>> On 26 August 2016 at 17:07 Gonz  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> At least he got a real charge out of it.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Jack Davis 
> >> wrote:
>  "Bolt" upright? Nice one Rick! :-0
>  J
>  
>  Sent from my iPhone
>  
> > On Aug 26, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> > 
> > I'm sure it had you sitting bolt upright.
> > http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> > 
> > 
> >> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola <
> >> danmaty...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> Back in my military aviation days, I was in a plane that was hit by
> >> lightning.  It disrupted our avionics, but not much else, although
> >> it was
> >> definitely a shocking experience.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Dan Matyola
> >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> >> 
> >>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:22 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Some years ago when I still sailed dinghies (Enterprise) the fleet
> >> of
> >>> about 12 was struck by lightning during a race at Ebeneezer Dam near
> >>> Tzaneen. The charge passed down the mast & shrouds of the boats &
> >> then
> >>> jumped the short gap to the water. All the boats showed some damage
> >> at
> >>> water level ranging from burn marks to de-lamination. One crew lady
> >> had
> >>> burns on her arm. Thank goodness for Faraday!
> >>> 
> >>> Alan C
> >>> 
> >>> -Original Message- From: Brian Walters
> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:44 PM
> >>> To: pdml@pdml.net
> >>> Subject: Re: OT: Decisive Moment
> >>> 
> >>> Ouch - that would get your pacemaker recharged in a hurry!
> >>> 
> >>> You could dine out on a story like that for years.  Bore your
> >> grandkids
> >>> witless - "Did I ever tell you kids the time when a bolt of
> >>> lightning"
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Cheers
> >>> 
> >>> Brian
> >>> 
> >>> ++
> >>> Brian Walters
> >>> Western Sydney Australia
> >>> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> >>> 
> >>> 
>  On Fri, Aug 26, 2016, at 07:01 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>  
>  Interesting shot:  http://bit.ly/Delta_Plane_Lightning_Strike
>  
>  Comments from the poster, Brian Bledsoe"Delta flight landing in
> >> Atlanta
>  this afternoon...The lightning passed through the metal exterior
> >> and
>  exited
>  from the right landing gear (clearly visible). No one injured...new
>  pants
>  likely required for most of the passengers "
>  
>  Dan Matyola
>  http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

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Re: Decisive Moment

2016-08-26 Thread ann sanfedele 


This thread is getting revolting

On 8/26/2016 9:38 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Ohm my goodness, no!

Just wondering watts next.

I'm sensing resistance to the current discussion.

Not to mention a load of static.
at least he got a real charge out of it.


I'm sure it had you sitting bolt upright.





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Re: Decisive Moment

2016-08-26 Thread Rick Womer 
Ohm my goodness, no!

Just wondering watts next.


On Aug 26, 2016, at 2:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> I'm sensing resistance to the current discussion.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:18 PM, mike wilson 
> wrote:
> 
>> Not to mention a load of static.
>> 
>>> On 26 August 2016 at 17:07 Gonz  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> At least he got a real charge out of it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Jack Davis 
>> wrote:
 "Bolt" upright? Nice one Rick! :-0
 J
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Aug 26, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> I'm sure it had you sitting bolt upright.
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola <
>> danmaty...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> Back in my military aviation days, I was in a plane that was hit by
>> lightning.  It disrupted our avionics, but not much else, although
>> it was
>> definitely a shocking experience.
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:22 AM, Alan C  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Some years ago when I still sailed dinghies (Enterprise) the fleet
>> of
>>> about 12 was struck by lightning during a race at Ebeneezer Dam near
>>> Tzaneen. The charge passed down the mast & shrouds of the boats &
>> then
>>> jumped the short gap to the water. All the boats showed some damage
>> at
>>> water level ranging from burn marks to de-lamination. One crew lady
>> had
>>> burns on her arm. Thank goodness for Faraday!
>>> 
>>> Alan C
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Brian Walters
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:44 PM
>>> To: pdml@pdml.net
>>> Subject: Re: OT: Decisive Moment
>>> 
>>> Ouch - that would get your pacemaker recharged in a hurry!
>>> 
>>> You could dine out on a story like that for years.  Bore your
>> grandkids
>>> witless - "Did I ever tell you kids the time when a bolt of
>>> lightning"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> 
>>> ++
>>> Brian Walters
>>> Western Sydney Australia
>>> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>>> 
>>> 
 On Fri, Aug 26, 2016, at 07:01 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 
 Interesting shot:  http://bit.ly/Delta_Plane_Lightning_Strike
 
 Comments from the poster, Brian Bledsoe"Delta flight landing in
>> Atlanta
 this afternoon...The lightning passed through the metal exterior
>> and
 exited
 from the right landing gear (clearly visible). No one injured...new
 pants
 likely required for most of the passengers "
 
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: Decisive Moment

2016-08-26 Thread Rick Womer 
I had a flash of inspiration.

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> "Bolt" upright? Nice one Rick! :-0
> J
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>>
>> I'm sure it had you sitting bolt upright.
>> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>>
>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  
>>> wrote:
>>> Back in my military aviation days, I was in a plane that was hit by
>>> lightning.  It disrupted our avionics, but not much else, although it was
>>> definitely a shocking experience.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>>
 On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:22 AM, Alan C  wrote:

 Some years ago when I still sailed dinghies (Enterprise) the fleet of
 about 12 was struck by lightning during a race at Ebeneezer Dam near
 Tzaneen. The charge passed down the mast & shrouds of the boats & then
 jumped the short gap to the water. All the boats showed some damage at
 water level ranging from burn marks to de-lamination. One crew lady had
 burns on her arm. Thank goodness for Faraday!

 Alan C

 -Original Message- From: Brian Walters
 Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:44 PM
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT: Decisive Moment

 Ouch - that would get your pacemaker recharged in a hurry!

 You could dine out on a story like that for years.  Bore your grandkids
 witless - "Did I ever tell you kids the time when a bolt of
 lightning"


 Cheers

 Brian

 ++
 Brian Walters
 Western Sydney Australia
 http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/


> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016, at 07:01 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
> Interesting shot:  http://bit.ly/Delta_Plane_Lightning_Strike
>
> Comments from the poster, Brian Bledsoe"Delta flight landing in Atlanta
> this afternoon...The lightning passed through the metal exterior and
> exited
> from the right landing gear (clearly visible). No one injured...new pants
> likely required for most of the passengers "
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: Decisive Moment

2016-08-26 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
I'm sensing resistance to the current discussion.

Dan Matyola
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On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:18 PM, mike wilson 
wrote:

> Not to mention a load of static.
>
> > On 26 August 2016 at 17:07 Gonz  wrote:
> >
> >
> > At least he got a real charge out of it.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Jack Davis 
> wrote:
> > > "Bolt" upright? Nice one Rick! :-0
> > > J
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Aug 26, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I'm sure it had you sitting bolt upright.
> > >> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola <
> danmaty...@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> Back in my military aviation days, I was in a plane that was hit by
> > >>> lightning.  It disrupted our avionics, but not much else, although
> it was
> > >>> definitely a shocking experience.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Dan Matyola
> > >>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> > >>>
> >  On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:22 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> > 
> >  Some years ago when I still sailed dinghies (Enterprise) the fleet
> of
> >  about 12 was struck by lightning during a race at Ebeneezer Dam near
> >  Tzaneen. The charge passed down the mast & shrouds of the boats &
> then
> >  jumped the short gap to the water. All the boats showed some damage
> at
> >  water level ranging from burn marks to de-lamination. One crew lady
> had
> >  burns on her arm. Thank goodness for Faraday!
> > 
> >  Alan C
> > 
> >  -Original Message- From: Brian Walters
> >  Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:44 PM
> >  To: pdml@pdml.net
> >  Subject: Re: OT: Decisive Moment
> > 
> >  Ouch - that would get your pacemaker recharged in a hurry!
> > 
> >  You could dine out on a story like that for years.  Bore your
> grandkids
> >  witless - "Did I ever tell you kids the time when a bolt of
> >  lightning"
> > 
> > 
> >  Cheers
> > 
> >  Brian
> > 
> >  ++
> >  Brian Walters
> >  Western Sydney Australia
> >  http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> > 
> > 
> > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2016, at 07:01 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> > >
> > > Interesting shot:  http://bit.ly/Delta_Plane_Lightning_Strike
> > >
> > > Comments from the poster, Brian Bledsoe"Delta flight landing in
> Atlanta
> > > this afternoon...The lightning passed through the metal exterior
> and
> > > exited
> > > from the right landing gear (clearly visible). No one injured...new
> > > pants
> > > likely required for most of the passengers "
> > >
> > > Dan Matyola
> > > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: Decisive Moment

2016-08-26 Thread mike wilson 
Not to mention a load of static.

> On 26 August 2016 at 17:07 Gonz  wrote:
> 
> 
> At least he got a real charge out of it.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> > "Bolt" upright? Nice one Rick! :-0
> > J
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Aug 26, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm sure it had you sitting bolt upright.
> >> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> Back in my military aviation days, I was in a plane that was hit by
> >>> lightning.  It disrupted our avionics, but not much else, although it was
> >>> definitely a shocking experience.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dan Matyola
> >>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> >>>
>  On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:22 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
>  Some years ago when I still sailed dinghies (Enterprise) the fleet of
>  about 12 was struck by lightning during a race at Ebeneezer Dam near
>  Tzaneen. The charge passed down the mast & shrouds of the boats & then
>  jumped the short gap to the water. All the boats showed some damage at
>  water level ranging from burn marks to de-lamination. One crew lady had
>  burns on her arm. Thank goodness for Faraday!
> 
>  Alan C
> 
>  -Original Message- From: Brian Walters
>  Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:44 PM
>  To: pdml@pdml.net
>  Subject: Re: OT: Decisive Moment
> 
>  Ouch - that would get your pacemaker recharged in a hurry!
> 
>  You could dine out on a story like that for years.  Bore your grandkids
>  witless - "Did I ever tell you kids the time when a bolt of
>  lightning"
> 
> 
>  Cheers
> 
>  Brian
> 
>  ++
>  Brian Walters
>  Western Sydney Australia
>  http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> 
> 
> > On Fri, Aug 26, 2016, at 07:01 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> >
> > Interesting shot:  http://bit.ly/Delta_Plane_Lightning_Strike
> >
> > Comments from the poster, Brian Bledsoe"Delta flight landing in Atlanta
> > this afternoon...The lightning passed through the metal exterior and
> > exited
> > from the right landing gear (clearly visible). No one injured...new
> > pants
> > likely required for most of the passengers "
> >
> > Dan Matyola
> > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

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Re: Decisive Moment

2016-08-26 Thread Gonz 
At least he got a real charge out of it.


On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> "Bolt" upright? Nice one Rick! :-0
> J
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>>
>> I'm sure it had you sitting bolt upright.
>> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>>
>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  
>>> wrote:
>>> Back in my military aviation days, I was in a plane that was hit by
>>> lightning.  It disrupted our avionics, but not much else, although it was
>>> definitely a shocking experience.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>>
 On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:22 AM, Alan C  wrote:

 Some years ago when I still sailed dinghies (Enterprise) the fleet of
 about 12 was struck by lightning during a race at Ebeneezer Dam near
 Tzaneen. The charge passed down the mast & shrouds of the boats & then
 jumped the short gap to the water. All the boats showed some damage at
 water level ranging from burn marks to de-lamination. One crew lady had
 burns on her arm. Thank goodness for Faraday!

 Alan C

 -Original Message- From: Brian Walters
 Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:44 PM
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT: Decisive Moment

 Ouch - that would get your pacemaker recharged in a hurry!

 You could dine out on a story like that for years.  Bore your grandkids
 witless - "Did I ever tell you kids the time when a bolt of
 lightning"


 Cheers

 Brian

 ++
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 http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/


> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016, at 07:01 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
> Interesting shot:  http://bit.ly/Delta_Plane_Lightning_Strike
>
> Comments from the poster, Brian Bledsoe"Delta flight landing in Atlanta
> this afternoon...The lightning passed through the metal exterior and
> exited
> from the right landing gear (clearly visible). No one injured...new pants
> likely required for most of the passengers "
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: Decisive Moment

2016-08-26 Thread Jack Davis 
"Bolt" upright? Nice one Rick! :-0
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 26, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> I'm sure it had you sitting bolt upright.
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  
>> wrote:
>> Back in my military aviation days, I was in a plane that was hit by
>> lightning.  It disrupted our avionics, but not much else, although it was
>> definitely a shocking experience.
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:22 AM, Alan C  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Some years ago when I still sailed dinghies (Enterprise) the fleet of
>>> about 12 was struck by lightning during a race at Ebeneezer Dam near
>>> Tzaneen. The charge passed down the mast & shrouds of the boats & then
>>> jumped the short gap to the water. All the boats showed some damage at
>>> water level ranging from burn marks to de-lamination. One crew lady had
>>> burns on her arm. Thank goodness for Faraday!
>>> 
>>> Alan C
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Brian Walters
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:44 PM
>>> To: pdml@pdml.net
>>> Subject: Re: OT: Decisive Moment
>>> 
>>> Ouch - that would get your pacemaker recharged in a hurry!
>>> 
>>> You could dine out on a story like that for years.  Bore your grandkids
>>> witless - "Did I ever tell you kids the time when a bolt of
>>> lightning"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> 
>>> ++
>>> Brian Walters
>>> Western Sydney Australia
>>> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>>> 
>>> 
 On Fri, Aug 26, 2016, at 07:01 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 
 Interesting shot:  http://bit.ly/Delta_Plane_Lightning_Strike
 
 Comments from the poster, Brian Bledsoe"Delta flight landing in Atlanta
 this afternoon...The lightning passed through the metal exterior and
 exited
 from the right landing gear (clearly visible). No one injured...new pants
 likely required for most of the passengers "
 
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Re: Decisive Moment

2016-08-26 Thread Rick Womer 
I'm sure it had you sitting bolt upright.
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> Back in my military aviation days, I was in a plane that was hit by
> lightning.  It disrupted our avionics, but not much else, although it was
> definitely a shocking experience.
>
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:22 AM, Alan C  wrote:
>
>> Some years ago when I still sailed dinghies (Enterprise) the fleet of
>> about 12 was struck by lightning during a race at Ebeneezer Dam near
>> Tzaneen. The charge passed down the mast & shrouds of the boats & then
>> jumped the short gap to the water. All the boats showed some damage at
>> water level ranging from burn marks to de-lamination. One crew lady had
>> burns on her arm. Thank goodness for Faraday!
>>
>> Alan C
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Brian Walters
>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:44 PM
>> To: pdml@pdml.net
>> Subject: Re: OT: Decisive Moment
>>
>> Ouch - that would get your pacemaker recharged in a hurry!
>>
>> You could dine out on a story like that for years.  Bore your grandkids
>> witless - "Did I ever tell you kids the time when a bolt of
>> lightning"
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> ++
>> Brian Walters
>> Western Sydney Australia
>> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016, at 07:01 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting shot:  http://bit.ly/Delta_Plane_Lightning_Strike
>>>
>>> Comments from the poster, Brian Bledsoe"Delta flight landing in Atlanta
>>> this afternoon...The lightning passed through the metal exterior and
>>> exited
>>> from the right landing gear (clearly visible). No one injured...new pants
>>> likely required for most of the passengers "
>>>
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: Decisive Moment

2016-08-26 Thread Alan C 
Shocking indeed! Without a direct earth the Al body would remain charged for 
some time. Composites used to make light aircraft have metal strands woven 
in.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Daniel J. Matyola

Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 3:40 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
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Back in my military aviation days, I was in a plane that was hit by
lightning.  It disrupted our avionics, but not much else, although it was
definitely a shocking experience.


Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:22 AM, Alan C <c...@lantic.net> wrote:


Some years ago when I still sailed dinghies (Enterprise) the fleet of
about 12 was struck by lightning during a race at Ebeneezer Dam near
Tzaneen. The charge passed down the mast & shrouds of the boats & then
jumped the short gap to the water. All the boats showed some damage at
water level ranging from burn marks to de-lamination. One crew lady had
burns on her arm. Thank goodness for Faraday!

Alan C

-Original Message- From: Brian Walters
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:44 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Decisive Moment

Ouch - that would get your pacemaker recharged in a hurry!

You could dine out on a story like that for years.  Bore your grandkids
witless - "Did I ever tell you kids the time when a bolt of
lightning"


Cheers

Brian

++
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Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/


On Fri, Aug 26, 2016, at 07:01 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


Interesting shot:  http://bit.ly/Delta_Plane_Lightning_Strike

Comments from the poster, Brian Bledsoe"Delta flight landing in Atlanta
this afternoon...The lightning passed through the metal exterior and
exited
from the right landing gear (clearly visible). No one injured...new pants
likely required for most of the passengers "

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Re: Decisive Moment

2016-08-26 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
Back in my military aviation days, I was in a plane that was hit by
lightning.  It disrupted our avionics, but not much else, although it was
definitely a shocking experience.


Dan Matyola
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On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:22 AM, Alan C  wrote:

> Some years ago when I still sailed dinghies (Enterprise) the fleet of
> about 12 was struck by lightning during a race at Ebeneezer Dam near
> Tzaneen. The charge passed down the mast & shrouds of the boats & then
> jumped the short gap to the water. All the boats showed some damage at
> water level ranging from burn marks to de-lamination. One crew lady had
> burns on her arm. Thank goodness for Faraday!
>
> Alan C
>
> -Original Message- From: Brian Walters
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:44 PM
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: OT: Decisive Moment
>
> Ouch - that would get your pacemaker recharged in a hurry!
>
> You could dine out on a story like that for years.  Bore your grandkids
> witless - "Did I ever tell you kids the time when a bolt of
> lightning"
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016, at 07:01 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
>> Interesting shot:  http://bit.ly/Delta_Plane_Lightning_Strike
>>
>> Comments from the poster, Brian Bledsoe"Delta flight landing in Atlanta
>> this afternoon...The lightning passed through the metal exterior and
>> exited
>> from the right landing gear (clearly visible). No one injured...new pants
>> likely required for most of the passengers "
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: Decisive Moment

2016-08-25 Thread Alan C 
Some years ago when I still sailed dinghies (Enterprise) the fleet of about 
12 was struck by lightning during a race at Ebeneezer Dam near Tzaneen. The 
charge passed down the mast & shrouds of the boats & then jumped the short 
gap to the water. All the boats showed some damage at water level ranging 
from burn marks to de-lamination. One crew lady had burns on her arm. Thank 
goodness for Faraday!


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Walters

Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:44 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Decisive Moment

Ouch - that would get your pacemaker recharged in a hurry!

You could dine out on a story like that for years.  Bore your grandkids
witless - "Did I ever tell you kids the time when a bolt of
lightning"


Cheers

Brian

++
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Western Sydney Australia
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On Fri, Aug 26, 2016, at 07:01 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Interesting shot:  http://bit.ly/Delta_Plane_Lightning_Strike

Comments from the poster, Brian Bledsoe"Delta flight landing in Atlanta
this afternoon...The lightning passed through the metal exterior and
exited
from the right landing gear (clearly visible). No one injured...new pants
likely required for most of the passengers "

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Re: Decisive Moment

2013-06-20 Thread John Sessoms 

Go State!

From: Darren Addy

Yep, but they play each other tomorrow night and the loser exits the CWS.

On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:43 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

From: Darren Addy


I'm not really an NBA fan, but I've been following the finals pretty
closely. That was an EPIC game last night, with a little of
EVERYTHING. There are so many snapshot moments that stand out after
watching the game, from both teams. I've been rooting for the Spurs
(more accurately, against the Heat) but it has been one heck of a
series. The decisive Game 7 will probably be a huge letdown after that
one.



I don't know anything about Pro-basketball, but it looks like both NC
State  UNC are still alive in the NCAA College World Series.


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Re: Decisive Moment

2013-06-19 Thread Darren Addy 
I'm not really an NBA fan, but I've been following the finals pretty
closely. That was an EPIC game last night, with a little of
EVERYTHING. There are so many snapshot moments that stand out after
watching the game, from both teams. I've been rooting for the Spurs
(more accurately, against the Heat) but it has been one heck of a
series. The decisive Game 7 will probably be a huge letdown after that
one.

On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Stan Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 Living in a small town, I have no ready (home delivery) source of any major 
 newspapers, so I get my news fix via iPad apps and on-line sources. 
 Washington Post, L.A. Times, AP, BBC, USA Today, etc.
 In today's on-line USA Today, Sports section, there is a story about the Heat 
 vs. Spurs NBA Championship game last night. The Heat was losing, made a 
 last-gasp shot to tie and send the game into overtime. Heat is ahead, the OT 
 is about to end, the Spurs try a last-gasp shot to tie and go to a second OT.

 The Steven Mitchell photo of that moment, which illustrates one USA Today 
 story, is a great example of Decisive Moment!

 http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/playoffs/2013/06/19/chris-bosh-finals-miami-heat-vs-san-antonio-spurs-game-6/2437043/

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Re: Decisive Moment

2013-06-19 Thread John Sessoms 

From: Darren Addy

I'm not really an NBA fan, but I've been following the finals pretty
closely. That was an EPIC game last night, with a little of
EVERYTHING. There are so many snapshot moments that stand out after
watching the game, from both teams. I've been rooting for the Spurs
(more accurately, against the Heat) but it has been one heck of a
series. The decisive Game 7 will probably be a huge letdown after that
one.


I don't know anything about Pro-basketball, but it looks like both NC
State  UNC are still alive in the NCAA College World Series.

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Re: Decisive Moment

2013-06-19 Thread Darren Addy 
Yep, but they play each other tomorrow night and the loser exits the CWS.

On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:43 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: Darren Addy

 I'm not really an NBA fan, but I've been following the finals pretty
 closely. That was an EPIC game last night, with a little of
 EVERYTHING. There are so many snapshot moments that stand out after
 watching the game, from both teams. I've been rooting for the Spurs
 (more accurately, against the Heat) but it has been one heck of a
 series. The decisive Game 7 will probably be a huge letdown after that
 one.


 I don't know anything about Pro-basketball, but it looks like both NC
 State  UNC are still alive in the NCAA College World Series.


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Re: Decisive moment

2012-07-06 Thread Walt Gilbert 

On 7/5/2012 5:37 PM, Larry Colen (On Droid4est) wrote:

One of the things I've been working on is only taking photos at the decisive 
moment.  One thing that I've noticed is that the better I get at waiting for the 
decisive moment, the better everyone else seems to get at stepping in front of my camera 
just before the decisive moment.

In a similar vein, yesterday a friend was trying to photograph me dipping a 
dance partner at the end of a dance and a pro photographer (press pass) stepped 
right between us to show his photo to someone.

That is frustrating. Right up there with people who ruin great shots by 
posing when they notice the camera pointed at them.


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Re: Decisive moment

2012-07-06 Thread Larry Colen (On Droid4est) 
He had just gotten some shots of a mom and her kid and she wanted to see them. 
I don't think he was a dick as much as oblivious.
Never apply to malice what can be explained by incompetence.

Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:

On 5/7/12, Larry Colen (On Droid4est), discombobulated, unleashed:

In a similar vein, yesterday a friend was trying to photograph me
dipping a dance partner at the end of a dance and a pro photographer
(press pass) stepped right between us to show his photo to someone.

Sounds like he was a professional dick, to me.

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Re: Decisive moment

2012-07-06 Thread Bruce Walker 
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 4:14 AM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 7/5/2012 5:37 PM, Larry Colen (On Droid4est) wrote:

 One of the things I've been working on is only taking photos at the
 decisive moment.  One thing that I've noticed is that the better I get at
 waiting for the decisive moment, the better everyone else seems to get at
 stepping in front of my camera just before the decisive moment.

 In a similar vein, yesterday a friend was trying to photograph me dipping
 a dance partner at the end of a dance and a pro photographer (press pass)
 stepped right between us to show his photo to someone.

 That is frustrating. Right up there with people who ruin great shots by
 posing when they notice the camera pointed at them.

Or passers-by who hang back politely when they see you point your
camera when in fact you were waiting to get them in the scene as
random passers-by!

I only started to have this problem after I realized that shots of
monuments and architecture can be improved by including some anonymous
people for scale and interest. Prior to that random passers-by filled
my shots when I was trying to get a de-peopled scene.

Can't win. :-)

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Re: Decisive moment

2012-07-06 Thread John Francis 
On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 03:14:19AM -0500, Walt Gilbert wrote:
 On 7/5/2012 5:37 PM, Larry Colen (On Droid4est) wrote:
 One of the things I've been working on is only taking photos at the 
 decisive moment.  One thing that I've noticed is that the better I get at 
 waiting for the decisive moment, the better everyone else seems to get at 
 stepping in front of my camera just before the decisive moment.
 
 In a similar vein, yesterday a friend was trying to photograph me dipping a 
 dance partner at the end of a dance and a pro photographer (press pass) 
 stepped right between us to show his photo to someone.
 
 That is frustrating. Right up there with people who ruin great shots
 by posing when they notice the camera pointed at them.

You get used to that kind of thing if you do much sports photography.

At the end of a race, or when a favourite participant approaches,
everybody watching stands up, waves their hat in the air, leans
forward over the barriers, and generally does just about everything
possible (albeit unintentionally) to ruin your carefully planned shot.


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Re: Decisive moment

2012-07-06 Thread Steve Cottrell 
On 6/7/12, Larry Colen (On Droid4est), discombobulated, unleashed:

Never apply to malice what can be explained by incompetence.

Meh.

Never give a sucker an even break ;-)

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Re: Decisive moment

2012-07-06 Thread Igor Roshchin 


In my workshops on Dance(rs) and Photograph(er)s I always encourage
photographers to be courteous and to pay attention to [other] dancers 
and other photographers.

At various dance events, I've seen some official event photographers
who were very courteous not to block/cross the path of others without need
(or sit right across from you with his flash firing at you), and I've 
seen those who are totally oblivous (such as choosing a position with 
her flash right in my lens, shooting the entire stretch of competitions or
performances (10-20+ minutes) and not moving an inch to a side 
(while she had a possibility to move around freely - because of her
status, and I was locked in)).
I understand that when you are on a (sort of) assignment, - you
are more concentrated to have the job done, and I always try to 
avoid being in their way. But I found that the overall behavior of
such pros typically depends on the personality.
I don't think I've ever had problems from those photographers who were 
freelancing/shooting for themselves, whether I was the official
photographer or not. I find that these people tend to be more aware of 
others (including other photographers).
Maybe I am just too critical...

Igor



On 7/5/2012 5:37 PM, Larry Colen (On Droid4est) wrote:
 One of the things I've been working on is only taking photos at the
 decisive moment.  One thing that I've noticed is that the better I
 get at waiting for the decisive moment, the better everyone else seems
 to get at stepping in front of my camera just before the decisive
 moment.

 In a similar vein, yesterday a friend was trying to photograph me
 dipping a dance partner at the end of a dance and a pro photographer
 (press pass) stepped right between us to show his photo to someone.


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Re: Decisive moment

2012-07-05 Thread Steve Cottrell 
On 5/7/12, Larry Colen (On Droid4est), discombobulated, unleashed:

In a similar vein, yesterday a friend was trying to photograph me
dipping a dance partner at the end of a dance and a pro photographer
(press pass) stepped right between us to show his photo to someone.

Sounds like he was a professional dick, to me.

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Re: Decisive moment

2012-07-05 Thread Mark Roberts 
Larry Colen (On Droid4est) wrote:

the better I get at waiting for the decisive moment, the better everyone else 
seems to get at stepping in front of my camera just before the decisive moment.

That's a keeper!
 
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RE: Decisive moment

2012-07-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com 
Those situations are where you need Gordie Howe Elbows.

Canadians (and Detroit Red Wing fans everywhere) will know exactly what I mean.

;-)

cheers,
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One of the things I've been working on is only taking photos at the decisive 
moment.  One thing that I've noticed is that the better I get at waiting for 
the decisive moment, the better everyone else seems to get at stepping in front 
of my camera just before the decisive moment.

In a similar vein, yesterday a friend was trying to photograph me dipping a 
dance partner at the end of a dance and a pro photographer (press pass) stepped 
right between us to show his photo to someone.

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