RE: GESO Car parts

2013-07-29 Thread Don Guthrie
I don't know about warm memories of a Pinto. My brother had one when 
he got married  it did not survive the honeymoon. Glad you enjoyed the 
pics thanks for commenting.


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Brought back warm memories of my Pinto station wagon. Ah, those were the
days.

Good angles and framing.

Gerrit

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Subject: GESO Car parts

I meant to post this all day  now must rush. This gallery is for car nuts
or just anyone who likes color  design. Taken with K 5  70 mm prime for
the most part plus a few strays with 35mm. Enjoy or critique or both.

http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR

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RE: GESO Car parts

2013-07-29 Thread Don Guthrie

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Thanks, Paul. The hard part of photography sometimes is what to leave out.



Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:59:21 -0400
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Well done. Nice framing.

Paul via phone

On Jul 27, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Gerrit Vissergerrit...@gmail.com  wrote:


Brought back warm memories of my Pinto station wagon. Ah, those were the
days.

Good angles and framing.

Gerrit

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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Don Guthrie
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 5:57 PM
To:pdml@pdml.net
Subject: GESO Car parts

I meant to post this all day  now must rush. This gallery is for car nuts
or just anyone who likes color  design. Taken with K 5  70 mm prime for
the most part plus a few strays with 35mm. Enjoy or critique or both.

http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR

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Re: GESO Car parts

2013-07-29 Thread John

The little station wagon was a pretty good car; not subject to the rear
end collision broken filler neck problem.

The only real problem I had with mine was the automatic transmission was
the same unit Ford used for their larger vehicles  it sucked a lot of
power out of the vehicle.

If it had been a stick shift, I might still have it running today.

On 7/29/2013 11:34 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:

I don't know about warm memories of a Pinto. My brother had one
when he got married  it did not survive the honeymoon. Glad you
enjoyed the pics thanks for commenting.

pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 1 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:01:27 -0400 From: Gerrit
Vissergerrit...@gmail.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail
List'pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: GESO Car parts Message-ID:
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charset=us-ascii

Brought back warm memories of my Pinto station wagon. Ah, those
were the days.

Good angles and framing.

Gerrit

-Original Message- From: PDML
[mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Don Guthrie Sent:
Friday, July 26, 2013 5:57 PM To:pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO Car
parts

I meant to post this all day  now must rush. This gallery is for
car nuts or just anyone who likes color  design. Taken with K 5 
70 mm prime for the most part plus a few strays with 35mm. Enjoy or
critique or both.

http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR

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Re: GESO Car parts

2013-07-29 Thread P.J. Alling
My god man, that's the first time I've heard of doing that destroying 
the car.  Your brother must be very proud.


On 7/29/2013 11:34 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:
I don't know about warm memories of a Pinto. My brother had one when 
he got married  it did not survive the honeymoon. Glad you enjoyed 
the pics thanks for commenting.


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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:01:27 -0400
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Subject: RE: GESO Car parts
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Brought back warm memories of my Pinto station wagon. Ah, those were the
days.

Good angles and framing.

Gerrit

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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Don Guthrie
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 5:57 PM
To:pdml@pdml.net
Subject: GESO Car parts

I meant to post this all day  now must rush. This gallery is for car 
nuts
or just anyone who likes color  design. Taken with K 5  70 mm prime 
for

the most part plus a few strays with 35mm. Enjoy or critique or both.

http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR

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Re: GESO Car parts

2013-07-29 Thread Bob W
  the rear
 end collision broken filler neck problem.


Is that why the other one didn't survive the honeymoon?

On 29 Jul 2013, at 16:42, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The little station wagon was a pretty good car; not subject to the rear
 end collision broken filler neck problem.
 
 The only real problem I had with mine was the automatic transmission was
 the same unit Ford used for their larger vehicles  it sucked a lot of
 power out of the vehicle.
 
 If it had been a stick shift, I might still have it running today.
 
 On 7/29/2013 11:34 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:
 I don't know about warm memories of a Pinto. My brother had one
 when he got married  it did not survive the honeymoon. Glad you
 enjoyed the pics thanks for commenting.
 
 pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
 Message: 1 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:01:27 -0400 From: Gerrit
 Vissergerrit...@gmail.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail
 List'pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: GESO Car parts Message-ID:
 002e01ce8b0c$76b1df40$64159dc0$@com Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset=us-ascii
 
 Brought back warm memories of my Pinto station wagon. Ah, those
 were the days.
 
 Good angles and framing.
 
 Gerrit
 
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 [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Don Guthrie Sent:
 Friday, July 26, 2013 5:57 PM To:pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO Car
 parts
 
 I meant to post this all day  now must rush. This gallery is for
 car nuts or just anyone who likes color  design. Taken with K 5 
 70 mm prime for the most part plus a few strays with 35mm. Enjoy or
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 http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR
 
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Re: GESO Car parts

2013-07-29 Thread kwaller


Kenneth Waller
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From: Bob W p...@web-options.com

Subject: Re: GESO Car parts



 the rear
end collision broken filler neck problem.




Oh, you mean the one where the driver left the gas tank cap off after 
filling the tank?




Is that why the other one didn't survive the honeymoon?

On 29 Jul 2013, at 16:42, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:


The little station wagon was a pretty good car; not subject to the rear
end collision broken filler neck problem.

The only real problem I had with mine was the automatic transmission was
the same unit Ford used for their larger vehicles  it sucked a lot of
power out of the vehicle.

If it had been a stick shift, I might still have it running today.

On 7/29/2013 11:34 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:

I don't know about warm memories of a Pinto. My brother had one
when he got married  it did not survive the honeymoon. Glad you
enjoyed the pics thanks for commenting.

pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 1 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:01:27 -0400 From: Gerrit
Vissergerrit...@gmail.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail
List'pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: GESO Car parts Message-ID:
002e01ce8b0c$76b1df40$64159dc0$@com Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=us-ascii

Brought back warm memories of my Pinto station wagon. Ah, those
were the days.

Good angles and framing.

Gerrit

-Original Message- From: PDML
[mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Don Guthrie Sent:
Friday, July 26, 2013 5:57 PM To:pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO Car
parts

I meant to post this all day  now must rush. This gallery is for
car nuts or just anyone who likes color  design. Taken with K 5 
70 mm prime for the most part plus a few strays with 35mm. Enjoy or
critique or both.

http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR



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Re: GESO Car parts

2013-07-29 Thread John

The hatchback Pinto had the gas filler in the back below the bumper. I
can't remember if it had the gas cap under a flip down license plate
holder or not. I had another car that did that, and it was a PITA. You
had to hold the license plate holder down with one hand while you held
the pump nozzle with the other. When they first went to self-serve gas
they took the little latching gadget off the nozzles so you had to
squeeze the lever the whole time you were pumping gas.

With the Pinto hatchback, there was apparently a small, but significant
chance that in a rear end collision the filler neck could be driven into
the gas tank rupturing it and spilling fuel.

Some engineer at Ford told the company that the problem could be
prevented by adding a device during manufacture that would increase the
cost by about $1.50 per vehicle. He was over-ruled by the bean counters
at Ford because it would add significantly to the total cost over the
millions of Pintos Ford expected build.

The upshot was that the amount they saved by leaving the part off was a
lot less than they ended up settling the lawsuits for, PLUS they had to
recall the Pinto and fit the part anyway, where it cost Ford a whole lot
more than $1.50 per vehicle.

Orders of magnitude more as it were.

I think the station wagon model used a completely different gas tank,
but in any case the design didn't leave room for the filler neck to be
at the back end of the vehicle, so they put it on the left rear fender,
either in front of the tire arch opening or above it where it wouldn't
be vulnerable in a rear end collision.


On 7/29/2013 2:41 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:


Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
Subject: Re: GESO Car parts



the rear end collision broken filler neck problem.




Oh, you mean the one where the driver left the gas tank cap off
after filling the tank?



Is that why the other one didn't survive the honeymoon?

On 29 Jul 2013, at 16:42, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:


The little station wagon was a pretty good car; not subject to
the rear end collision broken filler neck problem.

The only real problem I had with mine was the automatic
transmission was the same unit Ford used for their larger
vehicles  it sucked a lot of power out of the vehicle.

If it had been a stick shift, I might still have it running
today.

On 7/29/2013 11:34 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:

I don't know about warm memories of a Pinto. My brother had
one when he got married  it did not survive the honeymoon.
Glad you enjoyed the pics thanks for commenting.

pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 1 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:01:27 -0400 From:
Gerrit Vissergerrit...@gmail.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss
Mail List'pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: GESO Car parts
Message-ID: 002e01ce8b0c$76b1df40$64159dc0$@com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Brought back warm memories of my Pinto station wagon. Ah,
those were the days.

Good angles and framing.

Gerrit

-Original Message- From: PDML
[mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Don Guthrie Sent:
Friday, July 26, 2013 5:57 PM To:pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO
Car parts

I meant to post this all day  now must rush. This gallery
is for car nuts or just anyone who likes color  design.
Taken with K 5  70 mm prime for the most part plus a few
strays with 35mm. Enjoy or critique or both.

http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR





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RE: GESO Car parts

2013-07-29 Thread Gerrit Visser
It would have been great except the first year they used no primer. The
vehicle recycled itself in less than 5 years from new. My dad's was 1 year
later and is possibly still around. Last US designed/built car I bought.

OTOH it had a larger carrying capacity than my father-in-laws full size Chev
station wagon, width wise at least.

Gerrit

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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 11:42 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: GESO Car parts

The little station wagon was a pretty good car; not subject to the rear end
collision broken filler neck problem.

The only real problem I had with mine was the automatic transmission was the
same unit Ford used for their larger vehicles  it sucked a lot of power out
of the vehicle.

If it had been a stick shift, I might still have it running today.

On 7/29/2013 11:34 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:
 I don't know about warm memories of a Pinto. My brother had one when 
 he got married  it did not survive the honeymoon. Glad you enjoyed 
 the pics thanks for commenting.

 pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
 Message: 1 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:01:27 -0400 From: Gerrit 
 Vissergerrit...@gmail.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail 
 List'pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: GESO Car parts Message-ID:
 002e01ce8b0c$76b1df40$64159dc0$@com Content-Type: text/plain; 
 charset=us-ascii

 Brought back warm memories of my Pinto station wagon. Ah, those were 
 the days.

 Good angles and framing.

 Gerrit

 -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] 
 On Behalf Of Don Guthrie Sent:
 Friday, July 26, 2013 5:57 PM To:pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO Car 
 parts

 I meant to post this all day  now must rush. This gallery is for car 
 nuts or just anyone who likes color  design. Taken with K 5 
 70 mm prime for the most part plus a few strays with 35mm. Enjoy or 
 critique or both.

 http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR

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Re: GESO Car parts

2013-07-29 Thread kwaller

With the Pinto hatchback, there was apparently a small, but significant
chance that in a rear end collision the filler neck could be driven into
the gas tank rupturing it and spilling fuel.


The issue was actually a sharp edge (on a machining transfer point) on the 
rear axle differential that could act as a can opener should the fuel tank 
be forced sufficiently into the rear differential.



I think the station wagon model used a completely different gas tank,


The station wagon fuel filler was on the rear quarter panel.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: John johnsess...@yahoo.com

Subject: Re: GESO Car parts



The hatchback Pinto had the gas filler in the back below the bumper. I
can't remember if it had the gas cap under a flip down license plate
holder or not. I had another car that did that, and it was a PITA. You
had to hold the license plate holder down with one hand while you held
the pump nozzle with the other. When they first went to self-serve gas
they took the little latching gadget off the nozzles so you had to
squeeze the lever the whole time you were pumping gas.

With the Pinto hatchback, there was apparently a small, but significant
chance that in a rear end collision the filler neck could be driven into
the gas tank rupturing it and spilling fuel.

Some engineer at Ford told the company that the problem could be
prevented by adding a device during manufacture that would increase the
cost by about $1.50 per vehicle. He was over-ruled by the bean counters
at Ford because it would add significantly to the total cost over the
millions of Pintos Ford expected build.

The upshot was that the amount they saved by leaving the part off was a
lot less than they ended up settling the lawsuits for, PLUS they had to
recall the Pinto and fit the part anyway, where it cost Ford a whole lot
more than $1.50 per vehicle.

Orders of magnitude more as it were.

I think the station wagon model used a completely different gas tank,
but in any case the design didn't leave room for the filler neck to be
at the back end of the vehicle, so they put it on the left rear fender,
either in front of the tire arch opening or above it where it wouldn't
be vulnerable in a rear end collision.


On 7/29/2013 2:41 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:


Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
Subject: Re: GESO Car parts



the rear end collision broken filler neck problem.




Oh, you mean the one where the driver left the gas tank cap off
after filling the tank?



Is that why the other one didn't survive the honeymoon?

On 29 Jul 2013, at 16:42, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:


The little station wagon was a pretty good car; not subject to
the rear end collision broken filler neck problem.

The only real problem I had with mine was the automatic
transmission was the same unit Ford used for their larger
vehicles  it sucked a lot of power out of the vehicle.

If it had been a stick shift, I might still have it running
today.

On 7/29/2013 11:34 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:

I don't know about warm memories of a Pinto. My brother had
one when he got married  it did not survive the honeymoon.
Glad you enjoyed the pics thanks for commenting.

pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 1 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:01:27 -0400 From:
Gerrit Vissergerrit...@gmail.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss
Mail List'pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: GESO Car parts
Message-ID: 002e01ce8b0c$76b1df40$64159dc0$@com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Brought back warm memories of my Pinto station wagon. Ah,
those were the days.

Good angles and framing.

Gerrit

-Original Message- From: PDML
[mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Don Guthrie Sent:
Friday, July 26, 2013 5:57 PM To:pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO
Car parts

I meant to post this all day  now must rush. This gallery
is for car nuts or just anyone who likes color  design.
Taken with K 5  70 mm prime for the most part plus a few
strays with 35mm. Enjoy or critique or both.

http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR
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Re: GESO Car parts

2013-07-27 Thread Alan C

Very nostalgic. The nuts must have bolted.

Alan C

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From: Don Guthrie

Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 11:56 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: GESO Car parts

I meant to post this all day  now must rush. This gallery is for car
nuts or just anyone who likes color  design. Taken with K 5  70 mm
prime for the most part plus a few strays with 35mm. Enjoy or critique
or both.

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Re: GESO Car parts

2013-07-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele

What, no Chevy Bel Aire? :-)

fun to look at, and try to remember names of them from the logos

I see you moved to smugmug Don, hope you are liking it

ann


On 7/27/2013 03:46, Alan C wrote:

Very nostalgic. The nuts must have bolted.

Alan C

-Original Message- From: Don Guthrie
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 11:56 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: GESO Car parts

I meant to post this all day  now must rush. This gallery is for car
nuts or just anyone who likes color  design. Taken with K 5  70 mm
prime for the most part plus a few strays with 35mm. Enjoy or critique
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Re: GESO Car parts

2013-07-27 Thread Bruce Walker
Varied and colourful, Don. Enjoyed!

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RE: GESO Car parts

2013-07-27 Thread Gerrit Visser
Brought back warm memories of my Pinto station wagon. Ah, those were the
days.

Good angles and framing.

Gerrit

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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Don Guthrie
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To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: GESO Car parts

I meant to post this all day  now must rush. This gallery is for car nuts
or just anyone who likes color  design. Taken with K 5  70 mm prime for
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http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR

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Re: GESO Car parts

2013-07-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Well done. Nice framing.

Paul via phone

On Jul 27, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Brought back warm memories of my Pinto station wagon. Ah, those were the
 days.
 
 Good angles and framing.
 
 Gerrit
 
 -Original Message-
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Don Guthrie
 Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 5:57 PM
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: GESO Car parts
 
 I meant to post this all day  now must rush. This gallery is for car nuts
 or just anyone who likes color  design. Taken with K 5  70 mm prime for
 the most part plus a few strays with 35mm. Enjoy or critique or both.
 
 http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR
 
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