Re: K Mount Portrait Lens
On 25/3/05, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, unleashed: >In this range the Tamron SP AF 90mm macro is regarded one of the best. >I believe it possible to focus this manually. >Other than that any lens can be a portrait lens. 70mm - 120mm is fine >because you get limited Depth of Field (DOF) and you get a comfortable >distance to the subject while phptpgraphing. > >If you want razor-sharp images, a macro lens is the best. If you want high >all-'round image quality, get a dedicated 85mm, a K 2.8 105mm or a K 2.5 >135mm. You may get either one below 140USD, I believe. > >Some people like the Pentax M 2.0/85mm for portraits. I didn't - I sold >mine. > >The important thing about a portrait lens is that it's can make razor sharp >pictures at lager apertures (shallow DOF). I guess it takes a lot of >effort/knowlegde/technological know-how etc. to make a lens like this, which >is why they are expensive or rare. Thanks for your help Jens. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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In this range the Tamron SP AF 90mm macro is regarded one of the best. I believe it possible to focus this manually. Other than that any lens can be a portrait lens. 70mm - 120mm is fine because you get limited Depth of Field (DOF) and you get a comfortable distance to the subject while phptpgraphing. If you want razor-sharp images, a macro lens is the best. If you want high all-'round image quality, get a dedicated 85mm, a K 2.8 105mm or a K 2.5 135mm. You may get either one below 140USD, I believe. Some people like the Pentax M 2.0/85mm for portraits. I didn't - I sold mine. The important thing about a portrait lens is that it's can make razor sharp pictures at lager apertures (shallow DOF). I guess it takes a lot of effort/knowlegde/technological know-how etc. to make a lens like this, which is why they are expensive or rare. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 24. marts 2005 23:29 Til: pentax list Emne: K Mount Portrait Lens Hey Listers, I'm looking out for a budget lens for a friend. She wants a prime lens for her Ricoh, a portrait lens. She saw my wife's Tokina AT-X 90mm f/2.5 macro and was impressed. Can anyone recommend a lens (Pentax or otherwise) of 80 to 100mm (not a zoom) with a decent max aperture, and can be had reasonable money (say about 70 GBP / 140 USD). It would be useful if it was an A lens. Thought appreciated. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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On 24/3/05, Mark Cassino, discombobulated, unleashed: >I'd second the M100 f2.8 - I liked mine a lot, wish I had not sold it. Thanks Mark. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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On 24/3/05, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: >Have you considered a fast 50 and a teleconverter? Not the best >quality, but definitely easier on the wallet. I could put it to my friend (actually my wife's friend) but I think I might as well be speaking Klingon. She has a 50 already, but I don't think adding a TC is necessarily the best solution for her Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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On 24/3/05, Mat Maessen, discombobulated, unleashed: >If you don't mind screw mount, Jupiter 9. Cheap, works nicely w/ a K >mount adapter, and beautiful bokeh. Thanks Mat. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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On 24/3/05, Mishka, discombobulated, unleashed: >my vote for VS1 105/2.5 >it's an "A", tack sharp and in the price range. a bit heavy though. Sounds good - I wonder where I can find one of them?? ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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On 24/3/05, Collin R Brendemuehl, discombobulated, unleashed: >A100/2.8 >It's good. >My working distance is about 6 to 7 ft. and I get a good bust shot. >(From the ribs up.) >It's a good working distance. >And they're a LOT cheaper than the 85/1.4, though admittedly slower. >With modeling lights on full it bright enough with my Super Program. > >To lower your costs further, get the M100/2.8 & have Mark Roberts modify the >mount to "A". You might save a few more bucks. Or even a few £. Thanks Collin. Like bust shots ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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> Oh bloody Nora - will a PK-A lens fit okay onto a Ricoh? I'll have to > find out the model number How about a Ricoh lens? Ricoh information here: http://www.butkus.org/chinon/#RICOH John
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On Mar 25, 2005, at 11:38 AM, Cotty wrote: Not a chance, starving artist type. Will spend a fortune on *chalk* but what can you do? I'm like that with some things. After all I've spent on photographic and computer gear, I still refuse to pay full price for a music CD. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
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From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I should add that it need not be a macro. For portraits, probably best to avoid a macro. The focusing action of a macro is optimized more for close subjects than far. A 100mm macro takes just a slight turn to move the focus from infinity to a few feet away from the camera. Back when I had an M 100 f2.8, it took considerably more turning to achieve the same result. As a consequence, it's easier to accurately focus a regular lens on a subject several feet away than it is to use a macro at the same distance. I don't have the M100 anymore, but for example, my manual focus Kiron 105mm macro goes from infinity to 3 feet in just un 1/4th of a turn (90 degrees of arc) of the focusing ring. By contrast, my Takumar 135 f2.5 (closest thing I have to a regular 100) takes over 3/4ths of a turn to get to it's minimum focus ing distance of 1.2 meters. When working with a person sitting 6-10 feet away, it can be a lot easier to focus with a regular lens than a macro. I used to like ricoh lenses and still have a few around - I don't recall a 100mm prime, but they did make a 135 f2.8, and I think in the "A" version. But Ricoh's can be hard to come by. I'd second the M100 f2.8 - I liked mine a lot, wish I had not sold it. - MCC - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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my vote for VS1 105/2.5 it's an "A", tack sharp and in the price range. a bit heavy though. best, mishka On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:28:52 +, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Listers, > > I'm looking out for a budget lens for a friend. She wants a prime lens > for her Ricoh, a portrait lens. She saw my wife's Tokina AT-X 90mm f/2.5 > macro and was impressed. > > Can anyone recommend a lens (Pentax or otherwise) of 80 to 100mm (not a > zoom) with a decent max aperture, and can be had reasonable money (say > about 70 GBP / 140 USD). It would be useful if it was an A lens. > > Thought appreciated. > > Cheers, > Cotty > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com > _ > >
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If you don't mind screw mount, Jupiter 9. Cheap, works nicely w/ a K mount adapter, and beautiful bokeh. -Mat On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:37:15 +, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 24/3/05, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >It'll fit fine but the "A" function won't work. > > > >**Dear Cottys friend: Buy a Pentax!** > > So there's no point in getting an A lens at all. Oh well, that opens up > the field a bit
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:28:52 +, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Listers, > > I'm looking out for a budget lens for a friend. She wants a prime lens > for her Ricoh, a portrait lens. She saw my wife's Tokina AT-X 90mm f/2.5 > macro and was impressed. Have you considered a fast 50 and a teleconverter? Not the best quality, but definitely easier on the wallet. > -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com
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boy = body! :-( > -Original Message- > From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 5:06 PM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: RE: K Mount Portrait Lens > > > The reason I asked is that Ricoh and Pentax use different > pins for coding on their lenses. > That's why a Ricoh lens will jam on a Pentax AutoFocus > boy, the "P" pin falls into the AF coupler hole. > A lot of lenses were made that work on both, they are > called PK A/R, they have pins for both Pentax and Ricoh. > I have a few, I'll take a look and see if any are what > you're looking for. I think they're all zooms though. > > Don > > > -Original Message- > > From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 4:54 PM > > To: pentax list > > Subject: Re: K Mount Portrait Lens > > > > > > On 24/3/05, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed: > > > > >When you say "A" lens do you mean "P" lens, since it's > > >a Ricoh? > > > > Er, it needs a green 'A' next to the smallest aperture... > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > Cotty > > > > > > ___/\__ > > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > > ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com > > _ > > > > >
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It'll fit fine but the "A" function won't work. **Dear Cottys friend: Buy a Pentax!** Don > -Original Message- > From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 5:29 PM > To: pentax list > Subject: Re: K Mount Portrait Lens > > > On 24/3/05, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >The reason I asked is that Ricoh and Pentax use different > >pins for coding on their lenses. > >That's why a Ricoh lens will jam on a Pentax AutoFocus > >boy, the "P" pin falls into the AF coupler hole. > >A lot of lenses were made that work on both, they are > >called PK A/R, they have pins for both Pentax and Ricoh. > >I have a few, I'll take a look and see if any are what > >you're looking for. I think they're all zooms though. > > Oh bloody Nora - will a PK-A lens fit okay onto a Ricoh? I'll have to > find out the model number > > > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com > _ > >
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On 24/3/05, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed: >The reason I asked is that Ricoh and Pentax use different >pins for coding on their lenses. >That's why a Ricoh lens will jam on a Pentax AutoFocus >boy, the "P" pin falls into the AF coupler hole. >A lot of lenses were made that work on both, they are >called PK A/R, they have pins for both Pentax and Ricoh. >I have a few, I'll take a look and see if any are what >you're looking for. I think they're all zooms though. Oh bloody Nora - will a PK-A lens fit okay onto a Ricoh? I'll have to find out the model number Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:45:19 -0800 (PST), Alan Chan wrote: > An used Tamron SP 90/2.5 1:2 is an excellent macro/portrait lens > too. Very high quality and not expensive. But you need the > original 1:1 adaptor if you want to get closer. I agree, I've been very happy with mine. Though, I thought there was a version, maybe a version of the 2.5 or maybe of the 2.8, that went to 1:1 natively (mine doesn't). TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
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On 24/3/05, Graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed: >Well, I do like my M100/2.8 for portraits even made Mark Roberts look >human (grin-1), and it goes nicely with my M35/2.0 (grin-2). thanks geedub Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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A100/2.8 It's good. My working distance is about 6 to 7 ft. and I get a good bust shot. (From the ribs up.) It's a good working distance. And they're a LOT cheaper than the 85/1.4, though admittedly slower. With modeling lights on full it bright enough with my Super Program. To lower your costs further, get the M100/2.8 & have Mark Roberts modify the mount to "A". You might save a few more bucks. Or even a few £. Collin
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On 24/3/05, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed: >**Dear Cottys friend: Buy a Pentax!** Not a chance, starving artist type. Will spend a fortune on *chalk* but what can you do? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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On 24/3/05, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed: >It'll fit fine but the "A" function won't work. > >**Dear Cottys friend: Buy a Pentax!** So there's no point in getting an A lens at all. Oh well, that opens up the field a bit Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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Well, I do like my M100/2.8 for portraits even made Mark Roberts look human (grin-1), and it goes nicely with my M35/2.0 (grin-2). graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Cotty wrote: Hey Listers, I'm looking out for a budget lens for a friend. She wants a prime lens for her Ricoh, a portrait lens. She saw my wife's Tokina AT-X 90mm f/2.5 macro and was impressed. Can anyone recommend a lens (Pentax or otherwise) of 80 to 100mm (not a zoom) with a decent max aperture, and can be had reasonable money (say about 70 GBP / 140 USD). It would be useful if it was an A lens. Thought appreciated. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.1 - Release Date: 3/23/2005
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On 24/3/05, Alan Chan, discombobulated, unleashed: >An used Tamron SP 90/2.5 1:2 is an excellent macro/portrait lens too. >Very high >quality and not expensive. But you need the original 1:1 adaptor if you >want to get closer. Thanks Alan Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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On 24/3/05, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: >I have, and like, the M 1:2.8 100mm. I also have the A 1:4 100mm macro >and the FA 1:2.8 100mm macro. The macros are much bigger, and also >somewhat sharper, but so they should be, and that is not a great advantage >for portraits. > >I paid too much for my M at a shop, but have seen it on Ebay for around >£70.00. It doesn't come up every week, though, and of course, it's not an >A lens. It's nice and petite, though. One of my favourites. Interesting. Thanks John. The cogs are slowly turning Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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The reason I asked is that Ricoh and Pentax use different pins for coding on their lenses. That's why a Ricoh lens will jam on a Pentax AutoFocus boy, the "P" pin falls into the AF coupler hole. A lot of lenses were made that work on both, they are called PK A/R, they have pins for both Pentax and Ricoh. I have a few, I'll take a look and see if any are what you're looking for. I think they're all zooms though. Don > -Original Message- > From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 4:54 PM > To: pentax list > Subject: Re: K Mount Portrait Lens > > > On 24/3/05, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >When you say "A" lens do you mean "P" lens, since it's > >a Ricoh? > > Er, it needs a green 'A' next to the smallest aperture... > > > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com > _ > >
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I have, and like, the M 1:2.8 100mm. I also have the A 1:4 100mm macro and the FA 1:2.8 100mm macro. The macros are much bigger, and also somewhat sharper, but so they should be, and that is not a great advantage for portraits. I paid too much for my M at a shop, but have seen it on Ebay for around £70.00. It doesn't come up every week, though, and of course, it's not an A lens. It's nice and petite, though. One of my favourites. At this price level, the Russian Jupiter 85mm is a possibility. John On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:28:52 +, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey Listers, I'm looking out for a budget lens for a friend. She wants a prime lens for her Ricoh, a portrait lens. She saw my wife's Tokina AT-X 90mm f/2.5 macro and was impressed. Can anyone recommend a lens (Pentax or otherwise) of 80 to 100mm (not a zoom) with a decent max aperture, and can be had reasonable money (say about 70 GBP / 140 USD). It would be useful if it was an A lens. Thought appreciated. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.1 - Release Date: 23/03/2005
Re: K Mount Portrait Lens
On 24/3/05, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed: >I have a Sigma 90/2.8 macro that was about $150 new, >I like it for both portrait and macro to 1:2. >It's an "A" type. Thanks Don Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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On 24/3/05, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed: >When you say "A" lens do you mean "P" lens, since it's >a Ricoh? Er, it needs a green 'A' next to the smallest aperture... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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A few suggestions: I have a Sigma 90/2.8 macro that was about $150 new, I like it for both portrait and macro to 1:2. It's an "A" type. I REALLY like my Super Takumar 85/1.9 for portraits, if she doesn't mind the 'stop down' metering it's superb and fairly inexpensive and easy to find. Also the Tokina/Pentax/Phoenix/Whatever 105/3.5 really isn't a bad Short Tele/Macro for the money, and it's AutoFocus to boot. When you say "A" lens do you mean "P" lens, since it's a Ricoh? Don PS: If I can find a nice Tamron SP 90/2.8 one of these days the Sigma will be for sale. > -Original Message- > From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 4:29 PM > To: pentax list > Subject: K Mount Portrait Lens > > > Hey Listers, > > I'm looking out for a budget lens for a friend. She wants a prime lens > for her Ricoh, a portrait lens. She saw my wife's Tokina AT-X 90mm f/2.5 > macro and was impressed. > > Can anyone recommend a lens (Pentax or otherwise) of 80 to 100mm (not a > zoom) with a decent max aperture, and can be had reasonable money (say > about 70 GBP / 140 USD). It would be useful if it was an A lens. > > Thought appreciated. > > > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com > _ > >
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--- Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can anyone recommend a lens (Pentax or otherwise) of 80 to 100mm (not a > zoom) with a decent max aperture, and can be had reasonable money (say > about 70 GBP / 140 USD). It would be useful if it was an A lens. An used Tamron SP 90/2.5 1:2 is an excellent macro/portrait lens too. Very high quality and not expensive. But you need the original 1:1 adaptor if you want to get closer. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
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On 24/3/05, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: >Hey Listers, > >I'm looking out for a budget lens for a friend. She wants a prime lens >for her Ricoh, a portrait lens. She saw my wife's Tokina AT-X 90mm f/2.5 >macro and was impressed. > >Can anyone recommend a lens (Pentax or otherwise) of 80 to 100mm (not a >zoom) with a decent max aperture, and can be had reasonable money (say >about 70 GBP / 140 USD). It would be useful if it was an A lens. > >Thought appreciated. I should add that it need not be a macro. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
