Re: Kind of like a clear changing bag for DSLRs

2010-05-28 Thread William Robb

On 28/05/2010 2:59 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

If I can, I'd like to go back to burning man this year.  It has some amazing 
photographic opportunities (Larry Harvey's megalomania notwithstanding), but 
the environment is hellish dusty.  Changing lenses could be a real problem.  
One of the items in my pile o'stuff is my changing bag from my old film 
developing days.  It seems that something like that would be great for changing 
lenses on DSLRs in harsh environments.  Put the camera in the bag, zip it up, 
put your hands through the sleeves and you've got a lot less dust floating 
around when you change lenses.

Of course, a changing bag is designed such that it is rather tough to see what 
you're doing.

So, does anyone know of clear changing bags, for changing lenses in dusty 
environments?

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I saw something on ForumsNeurotica that was exactly what you wanted, 
right down to a battery operated HEPA filter fan thingie.
I, of course, derided it as being a solution to a non existent problem, 
but perhaps searching that forum might yield an answer.


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Re: Kind of like a clear changing bag for DSLRs

2010-05-28 Thread Ken Waller

Real shooters don't need no stinkin changing bag !  ;+]

I just did 10 days shooting in S.E. Utah (mostly high desert like environ) 
with my K20D and followed the same procedure I used all my life when 
changing lenses on SLR bodies. It was an unusual time there as we had winds 
most of the time with some as high as 50 + mph.


I'm as quick as I can be with the swap -  keep the body pointed downward 
(dirt can't fall up into the body), keep caps on lenses til the last moment 
before attaching to the camera body and keep lens & body as close as 
possible immediately before the swap. I also exercised the dust removal 
feature of the K20D several times over the 10 days.



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- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Colen" 

Subject: Kind of like a clear changing bag for DSLRs


If I can, I'd like to go back to burning man this year.  It has some 
amazing photographic opportunities (Larry Harvey's megalomania 
notwithstanding), but the environment is hellish dusty.  Changing lenses 
could be a real problem.  One of the items in my pile o'stuff is my 
changing bag from my old film developing days.  It seems that something 
like that would be great for changing lenses on DSLRs in harsh 
environments.  Put the camera in the bag, zip it up, put your hands 
through the sleeves and you've got a lot less dust floating around when 
you change lenses.


Of course, a changing bag is designed such that it is rather tough to see 
what you're doing.


So, does anyone know of clear changing bags, for changing lenses in dusty 
environments?


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Re: Kind of like a clear changing bag for DSLRs

2010-05-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Been up on the playa many times. Just take good care to get out of the
wind and dust off the camera and lens before you dismount the lens and
swap the new one on.

Yeah it's dusty out there but nothing terrible or unusual.

On Friday, May 28, 2010, Larry Colen  wrote:
> If I can, I'd like to go back to burning man this year.  It has some amazing 
> photographic opportunities (Larry Harvey's megalomania notwithstanding), but 
> the environment is hellish dusty.  Changing lenses could be a real problem.  
> One of the items in my pile o'stuff is my changing bag from my old film 
> developing days.  It seems that something like that would be great for 
> changing lenses on DSLRs in harsh environments.  Put the camera in the bag, 
> zip it up, put your hands through the sleeves and you've got a lot less dust 
> floating around when you change lenses.
>
> Of course, a changing bag is designed such that it is rather tough to see 
> what you're doing.
>
> So, does anyone know of clear changing bags, for changing lenses in dusty 
> environments?
>
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Re: Kind of like a clear changing bag for DSLRs

2010-05-28 Thread Bruce Dayton
Do be aware that zooms can suck dust in as you zoom them - not as bad
as changing lenses, but still - if it is that dusty, seems like it
could be a problem.

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Friday, May 28, 2010, 11:52:08 AM, you wrote:


LC> On May 28, 2010, at 4:56 AM, David Parsons wrote:

>> Turn on the power on dust shake and that should help with most loose
>> dust.  Unless the wind is constantly blowing dust and sand around,
>> you'll be able to change lenses with little problem.
>> 
>> If you use good lens discipline you should be okay.
>> 
>> Do you really want to miss a shot because you spent 5 minutes futzing
>> with changing a lens, when you can clone out a spot in post?

LC> I would probably spend most of my time with the 16-50 on the K20.
LC> Or maybe the 18-250 on the K-x, at night, I'd probably also just
LC> wander around with a  prime on the K-x.  However, there will be
LC> enough things where I'd spend 45 minutes or an hour working on a
LC> shot, where I'll want or need some specific lens.  That's when I'd
LC> want to change lenses, to get those special shots.

LC> I don't want to change lenses out there, but I want to be able to,  if I 
need to.

LC> And, even in the car, I'd probably want to do it in the bag, just
LC> because it is unbelievably dusty on the playa.

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Re: Kind of like a clear changing bag for DSLRs

2010-05-28 Thread Larry Colen

On May 28, 2010, at 4:56 AM, David Parsons wrote:

> Turn on the power on dust shake and that should help with most loose
> dust.  Unless the wind is constantly blowing dust and sand around,
> you'll be able to change lenses with little problem.
> 
> If you use good lens discipline you should be okay.
> 
> Do you really want to miss a shot because you spent 5 minutes futzing
> with changing a lens, when you can clone out a spot in post?

I would probably spend most of my time with the 16-50 on the K20. Or maybe the 
18-250 on the K-x, at night, I'd probably also just wander around with a  prime 
on the K-x.  However, there will be enough things where I'd spend 45 minutes or 
an hour working on a shot, where I'll want or need some specific lens.  That's 
when I'd want to change lenses, to get those special shots.

I don't want to change lenses out there, but I want to be able to,  if I need 
to.

And, even in the car, I'd probably want to do it in the bag, just because it is 
unbelievably dusty on the playa.

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Re: Kind of like a clear changing bag for DSLRs

2010-05-28 Thread David Parsons
Turn on the power on dust shake and that should help with most loose
dust.  Unless the wind is constantly blowing dust and sand around,
you'll be able to change lenses with little problem.

If you use good lens discipline you should be okay.

Do you really want to miss a shot because you spent 5 minutes futzing
with changing a lens, when you can clone out a spot in post?

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 4:59 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> If I can, I'd like to go back to burning man this year.  It has some amazing 
> photographic opportunities (Larry Harvey's megalomania notwithstanding), but 
> the environment is hellish dusty.  Changing lenses could be a real problem.  
> One of the items in my pile o'stuff is my changing bag from my old film 
> developing days.  It seems that something like that would be great for 
> changing lenses on DSLRs in harsh environments.  Put the camera in the bag, 
> zip it up, put your hands through the sleeves and you've got a lot less dust 
> floating around when you change lenses.
>
> Of course, a changing bag is designed such that it is rather tough to see 
> what you're doing.
>
> So, does anyone know of clear changing bags, for changing lenses in dusty 
> environments?
>
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Re: Kind of like a clear changing bag for DSLRs

2010-05-28 Thread Bob W

[...]

So, does anyone know of clear changing bags, for changing
lenses in dusty environments?


I think it's better not to change lenses at all. Take 2 bodies - if you
can't cover everything with just 2 lenses you're doing something wrong.


That might work during the day, but for night photography, the zooms just 
aren't fast enough.




I've found in the past that a couple of fast primes covers probably more 
than 90% of normal photography. I spent a week or so shooting a market in 
India with a 35/1.4 and an 85/1.4 and never really felt the need for much 
else as far as focal lengths go.  f/2s would probably have been adequate for 
most low light situations down to the point where you really need to use 
flash.


On the other hand, I just tried it using a 2.5 gallon ziplock bag, and it 
seemed to work.


Sounds like it, but bear in mind that in a fast-moving situation it's just 
more crap getting in the way of shooting.


Bob 



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Re: Kind of like a clear changing bag for DSLRs

2010-05-28 Thread Larry Colen

On May 28, 2010, at 2:15 AM, Bob W wrote:

>> If I can, I'd like to go back to burning man this year.  
> 
> I shall stick to burning wood
> 
> [...]
>> 
>> Of course, a changing bag is designed such that it is rather 
>> tough to see what you're doing.
>> 
>> So, does anyone know of clear changing bags, for changing 
>> lenses in dusty environments?
> 
> I think it's better not to change lenses at all. Take 2 bodies - if you
> can't cover everything with just 2 lenses you're doing something wrong.

That might work during the day, but for night photography, the zooms just 
aren't fast enough.  

On the other hand, I just tried it using a 2.5 gallon ziplock bag, and it 
seemed to work.


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RE: Kind of like a clear changing bag for DSLRs

2010-05-28 Thread Bob W
> If I can, I'd like to go back to burning man this year.  

I shall stick to burning wood

[...]
> 
> Of course, a changing bag is designed such that it is rather 
> tough to see what you're doing.
> 
> So, does anyone know of clear changing bags, for changing 
> lenses in dusty environments?

I think it's better not to change lenses at all. Take 2 bodies - if you
can't cover everything with just 2 lenses you're doing something wrong.

Bob


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