Re: lightroom question: moving/copy
A related question: When moving a big directory tree, am I better moving the whole tree in lightroom? Or am I better off moving it with the file system, then just telling lightroom where the root of that tree is? On Jul 14, 2011, at 1:23 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > Last weekend, when photographing at a dojo event, I ran out of space on the > harddrive that I've been using for my raw files. So, I put the raw files > from the weekend onto an external drive. > > When I was at Costco today, they had a good price on a 3TB USB3 external > drive, so I picked it up to be for just my raw files. I've been using > lightroom to copy directory trees over from the old (Mixed use) drive to the > new (just photo) drive. I've been running into some problems when part of a > directory tree is already there and I can't just copy the top of the > remaining tree over because the top level directory already exists. But, I'm > solving those hiccups. > > I've got a bunch of files on the external drive, but rather than moving them > to the new drive, I want to copy them, and just tell lightroom to use the > copy, that way I've got all of the files in a convenient place for me to > share with other people. How do I go about this? > > I think I've seen something about it, but don't remember where, or how to > find it. > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: lightroom question: moving/copy
From: Larry Colen Last weekend, when photographing at a dojo event, I ran out of space on the harddrive that I've been using for my raw files. So, I put the raw files from the weekend onto an external drive. When I was at Costco today, they had a good price on a 3TB USB3 external drive, so I picked it up to be for just my raw files. I've been using lightroom to copy directory trees over from the old (Mixed use) drive to the new (just photo) drive. I've been running into some problems when part of a directory tree is already there and I can't just copy the top of the remaining tree over because the top level directory already exists. But, I'm solving those hiccups. I've got a bunch of files on the external drive, but rather than moving them to the new drive, I want to copy them, and just tell lightroom to use the copy, that way I've got all of the files in a convenient place for me to share with other people. How do I go about this? I think I've seen something about it, but don't remember where, or how to find it. I'm not a lightroom guru by any means, but I think that once you have all your files in the place you want them, you can make a new lightroom catalog that points to those files in the location you want it to point to. Whenever you want to share them using lightroom, you use that new catalog. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3763 - Release Date: 07/13/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question: moving/copy
On Jul 14, 2011, at 9:09, John Sessoms wrote: > > I'm not a lightroom guru by any means, but I think that once you have all > your files in the place you want them, you can make a new lightroom catalog > that points to those files in the location you want it to point to. > Oy - wouldn't a new catalog contain none of the changes/edits? I'd move it outside of LR (just because why induce the overhead of having some other application doing the moving) and then just tell LR "they're over HERE now". Not sure how to relocate/point to a different copy when the original is there and the thumbnails don't have that "?" asking where the original is, though. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question: moving/copy
Wrote a complete article on exactly this subject some time ago: http://www.gdgphoto.com/articles/ click on "08 - Lightroom, moving a large number of files" G On Thursday, July 14, 2011, Larry Colen wrote: > Last weekend, when photographing at a dojo event, I ran out of space on the > harddrive that I've been using for my raw files. So, I put the raw files > from the weekend onto an external drive. > > When I was at Costco today, they had a good price on a 3TB USB3 external > drive, so I picked it up to be for just my raw files. I've been using > lightroom to copy directory trees over from the old (Mixed use) drive to the > new (just photo) drive. I've been running into some problems when part of a > directory tree is already there and I can't just copy the top of the > remaining tree over because the top level directory already exists. But, I'm > solving those hiccups. > > I've got a bunch of files on the external drive, but rather than moving them > to the new drive, I want to copy them, and just tell lightroom to use the > copy, that way I've got all of the files in a convenient place for me to > share with other people. How do I go about this? > > I think I've seen something about it, but don't remember where, or how to > find it. > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question: moving/copy
On Jul 14, 2011, at 7:25 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Wrote a complete article on exactly this subject some time ago: > > http://www.gdgphoto.com/articles/ click on "08 - Lightroom, moving a > large number of files" Thanks. I wish I had asked first before starting. Changing halfway through would, I think, cause more problems than it would solve. Maybe this will save some other people some grief. At least it will help the next time I need to do something like this. > > G > > On Thursday, July 14, 2011, Larry Colen wrote: >> Last weekend, when photographing at a dojo event, I ran out of space on the >> harddrive that I've been using for my raw files. So, I put the raw files >> from the weekend onto an external drive. >> >> When I was at Costco today, they had a good price on a 3TB USB3 external >> drive, so I picked it up to be for just my raw files. I've been using >> lightroom to copy directory trees over from the old (Mixed use) drive to the >> new (just photo) drive. I've been running into some problems when part of a >> directory tree is already there and I can't just copy the top of the >> remaining tree over because the top level directory already exists. But, I'm >> solving those hiccups. >> >> I've got a bunch of files on the external drive, but rather than moving them >> to the new drive, I want to copy them, and just tell lightroom to use the >> copy, that way I've got all of the files in a convenient place for me to >> share with other people. How do I go about this? >> >> I think I've seen something about it, but don't remember where, or how to >> find it. >> >> -- >> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > -- > Godfrey > godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: lightroom question: moving/copy
Don't use LR to move it across the network, it's painfully slow. You might find it simpler to copy the whole structure to the new disk, then use give the new disk the name that the old one had, so LR doesn't notice the difference. B > -Original Message- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Larry Colen > Sent: 14 July 2011 10:35 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: lightroom question: moving/copy > > A related question: > When moving a big directory tree, am I better moving the whole tree in > lightroom? Or am I better off moving it with the file system, then just > telling lightroom where the root of that tree is? > > On Jul 14, 2011, at 1:23 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > Last weekend, when photographing at a dojo event, I ran out of space > on the harddrive that I've been using for my raw files. So, I put the > raw files from the weekend onto an external drive. > > > > When I was at Costco today, they had a good price on a 3TB USB3 > external drive, so I picked it up to be for just my raw files. I've > been using lightroom to copy directory trees over from the old (Mixed > use) drive to the new (just photo) drive. I've been running into some > problems when part of a directory tree is already there and I can't > just copy the top of the remaining tree over because the top level > directory already exists. But, I'm solving those hiccups. > > > > I've got a bunch of files on the external drive, but rather than > moving them to the new drive, I want to copy them, and just tell > lightroom to use the copy, that way I've got all of the files in a > convenient place for me to share with other people. How do I go about > this? > > > > I think I've seen something about it, but don't remember where, or > how to find it. > > > > -- > > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question: moving/copy
From: Charles Robinson On Jul 14, 2011, at 9:09, John Sessoms wrote: I'm not a lightroom guru by any means, but I think that once you have all your files in the place you want them, you can make a new lightroom catalog that points to those files in the location you want it to point to. Oy - wouldn't a new catalog contain none of the changes/edits? I'd move it outside of LR (just because why induce the overhead of having some other application doing the moving) and then just tell LR "they're over HERE now". Not sure how to relocate/point to a different copy when the original is there and the thumbnails don't have that "?" asking where the original is, though. I don't know. I guess that depends on how lightroom stores information about edits & changes. I *think* it may use sidecar (.xmp) files similar to the way Bridge stores the changes from ACR. If I were moving/copying files with Bridge, I'd be moving/copying the sidecar files along with the .PEF files, and the information about the changes would be there in the new location. I don't know why Adobe would reinvent the wheel when they have a system for storing information that works. But I don't know. If lightroom uses a different system, the changes might not be there, but I'm sure there must be some way to transfer information about changes & edits into the new catalog. And I'm pretty damn sure "make a new catalog" is going to be at least part of the answer. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3763 - Release Date: 07/13/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question: moving/copy
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:15 AM, John Sessoms wrote: >> I'd move it outside of LR (just because why induce the overhead of >> having some other application doing the moving) and then just tell LR >> "they're over HERE now". >> >> Not sure how to relocate/point to a different copy when the original >> is there and the thumbnails don't have that "?" asking where the >> original is, though. That's the right way to do it for large directory trees of original image files. Right- or control-clicking on a folder name in the Folders panel brings up a popup menu with the command "Update Folder Location...". You can essentially have multiple identical copies of the folder tree. Expose the topmost "parent" folder in the tree and just point LR to whichever one you want it to use at any time. > I don't know. I guess that depends on how lightroom stores information about > edits & changes. > > I *think* it may use sidecar (.xmp) files ... Lightroom stores information about all operations on an image file, along with all the parameters, IPTC annotation, keywords, file location in the file system, etc, into an SQLlite database file. That's what the .lrcat or "catalog file" is. It can optionally store metadata describing the state and processing parameters (along with IPTC annotations) into .XMP format sidecar files for native raw files, or into DNG files. It can do the same with JPEG, PSD and TIFF files as well, if you enable that option. This is a subset of the full information contained in the database file as it does not contain the edit history, inclusion into collections, etc. It is simply a static output of the state of the processing controls and IPTC metadata in Adobe "eXtensible Metadata Protocol" format. (I do not enable automatic synchronization of metadata nor do I enable it to store processing information into JPEG, PSD and TIFF files ... it's unnecessary unless you wish to use other applications in the Adobe Creative Suite which are aware of this information and synchronized to utilize it in conjunction with Lightroom and Camera Raw. Occasionally, in the production of rendered JPEG files, I force Lightroom to write metadata to files as I sometimes produce the rendered JPEG files through writing out a slide show or by compositing several images in the Print module. The procedure then is to import those exported products, synchronize the IPTC metadata from the original files, and force a write of the IPTC annotation so that it can be picked up on flickr and used by clients. I always strip processing information and EXIF camera data from my image products ... there's no point to including it.) -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question: moving/copy
On Jul 14, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Jul 14, 2011, at 7:25 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > >> Wrote a complete article on exactly this subject some time ago: >> >> http://www.gdgphoto.com/articles/ click on "08 - Lightroom, moving a >> large number of files" > > Thanks. I wish I had asked first before starting. Changing halfway through > would, I think, cause more problems than it would solve. > > Maybe this will save some other people some grief. At least it will help the > next time I need to do something like this. The files have moved on the disk. And if I look in the libraries, as far as I can tell lightroom thinks that they've moved. However for the past several hours I've had 4 operations in progress, each with a progress bar all the way to the right and saying "moving folder". Running "top" shows lightroom averaging about 1% of the CPU. I thought there was a mac application to show system resource usage, but I can't find it. I never seem to be able to understand these intuitive user interfaces. Anyways, it's very frustrating because LR doesn't seem to be doing diddly. I'm afraid to stop it however, lest I really screw things up. Meanwhile, I don't know how many hours I need to let it sit and do nothing before it decides that it's done, and can't do anything. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question: moving/copy
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > The files have moved on the disk. And if I look in the libraries, as far as I > can tell lightroom thinks that they've moved. However for the past several > hours I've had 4 operations in progress, each with a progress bar all the way > to the right and saying "moving folder". Running "top" shows lightroom > averaging about 1% of the CPU. I thought there was a mac application to show > system resource usage, but I can't find it. I never seem to be able to > understand these intuitive user interfaces. /Applicationa/Utilities/Activities Monitor.app - It's essentially taking the output from top and other unix utilities and putting them into a easily configurable windowed interface. As I say to our mutual friend and repeat here, "If you don't bother to learn the system and its tools, you spend a lot of time and energy venting your frustration." It's not a Linux system, a Windows system or a UNIX system. Don't make assumptions. ;-) For the geeky minded, there are also a great deal more system and application analysis tools available when you install the Xcode development tools bundle. > Anyways, it's very frustrating because LR doesn't seem to be doing diddly. > I'm afraid to stop it however, lest I really screw things up. Meanwhile, I > don't know how many hours I need to let it sit and do nothing before it > decides that it's done, and can't do anything. Since I don't know what you did to move your file repository, I can't really help your understanding of what LR might be doing. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question: moving/copy
I'm pretty sure I don't understand most of that except I think you're saying the .lrcat file performs the function for the whole catalog of images that the .xmp files performed for individual images in Bridge? From: Godfrey DiGiorgi On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:15 AM, John Sessoms wrote: I'd move it outside of LR (just because why induce the overhead of having some other application doing the moving) and then just tell LR "they're over HERE now". Not sure how to relocate/point to a different copy when the original is there and the thumbnails don't have that "?" asking where the original is, though. That's the right way to do it for large directory trees of original image files. Right- or control-clicking on a folder name in the Folders panel brings up a popup menu with the command "Update Folder Location...". You can essentially have multiple identical copies of the folder tree. Expose the topmost "parent" folder in the tree and just point LR to whichever one you want it to use at any time. I don't know. I guess that depends on how lightroom stores information about edits & changes. I *think* it may use sidecar (.xmp) files ... Lightroom stores information about all operations on an image file, along with all the parameters, IPTC annotation, keywords, file location in the file system, etc, into an SQLlite database file. That's what the .lrcat or "catalog file" is. It can optionally store metadata describing the state and processing parameters (along with IPTC annotations) into .XMP format sidecar files for native raw files, or into DNG files. It can do the same with JPEG, PSD and TIFF files as well, if you enable that option. This is a subset of the full information contained in the database file as it does not contain the edit history, inclusion into collections, etc. It is simply a static output of the state of the processing controls?and IPTC metadata in Adobe "eXtensible Metadata Protocol" format. (I do not enable automatic synchronization of metadata nor do I enable it to store processing information into JPEG, PSD and TIFF files ... it's unnecessary unless you wish to use other applications in the Adobe Creative Suite which are aware of this information and synchronized to utilize it in conjunction with Lightroom and Camera Raw. Occasionally, in the production of rendered JPEG files, I force Lightroom to write metadata to files as I sometimes produce the rendered JPEG files through writing out a slide show or by compositing several images in the Print module. The procedure then is to import those exported products, synchronize the IPTC metadata from the original files, and force a write of the IPTC annotation so that it can be picked up on flickr and used by clients. I always strip processing information and EXIF camera data from my image products ... there's no point to including it.) - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3763 - Release Date: 07/13/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question: moving/copy
In a sense, yes. However, Bridge does not maintain an editing history or allow organization of files into collections and groupings independent of the file system. It simply records IPTC annotations and adds them to the processing parameter settings that Camera Raw writes into .XMP sidecar files (if you have Camera Raw configured that way ...). The .lrcat file is the database file representing a Lightroom catalog that contains all the information produced or used by Lightroom about the particular set of files you've imported into it, excepting the original files themselves and the previews generated for Lightroom to display. File location, type, time and date, EXIF data, IPTC data, any processing operations, groupings with other files, slide/print/web preset associations, etc etc etc, are all in the .lrcat file. This is a superset of what .XMP sidecar files can contain for each file, one file at a time. XMP data is limited to static IPTC and image adjustment parameters written as image metadata. On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:44 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > I'm pretty sure I don't understand most of that except I think you're saying > the .lrcat file performs the function for the whole catalog of images that > the .xmp files performed for individual images in Bridge? > > > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi >> >> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:15 AM, John Sessoms >> wrote: I'd move it outside of LR (just because why induce the overhead of having some other application doing the moving) and then just tell LR "they're over HERE now". Not sure how to relocate/point to a different copy when the original is there and the thumbnails don't have that "?" asking where the original is, though. >> >> That's the right way to do it for large directory trees of original >> image files. Right- or control-clicking on a folder name in the >> Folders panel brings up a popup menu with the command "Update Folder >> Location...". You can essentially have multiple identical copies of >> the folder tree. Expose the topmost "parent" folder in the tree and >> just point LR to whichever one you want it to use at any time. >> >>> I don't know. I guess that depends on how lightroom stores information >>> about >>> edits & changes. >>> >>> I *think* it may use sidecar (.xmp) files ... >> >> Lightroom stores information about all operations on an image file, >> along with all the parameters, IPTC annotation, keywords, file >> location in the file system, etc, into an SQLlite database file. >> That's what the .lrcat or "catalog file" is. >> >> It can optionally store metadata describing the state and processing >> parameters (along with IPTC annotations) into .XMP format sidecar >> files for native raw files, or into DNG files. It can do the same with >> JPEG, PSD and TIFF files as well, if you enable that option. This is a >> subset of the full information contained in the database file as it >> does not contain the edit history, inclusion into collections, etc. It >> is simply a static output of the state of the processing controls?and >> IPTC metadata in Adobe "eXtensible Metadata Protocol" format. >> >> (I do not enable automatic synchronization of metadata nor do I enable >> it to store processing information into JPEG, PSD and TIFF files ... >> it's unnecessary unless you wish to use other applications in the >> Adobe Creative Suite which are aware of this information and >> synchronized to utilize it in conjunction with Lightroom and Camera >> Raw. >> >> Occasionally, in the production of rendered JPEG files, I force >> Lightroom to write metadata to files as I sometimes produce the >> rendered JPEG files through writing out a slide show or by compositing >> several images in the Print module. The procedure then is to import >> those exported products, synchronize the IPTC metadata from the >> original files, and force a write of the IPTC annotation so that it >> can be picked up on flickr and used by clients. I always strip >> processing information and EXIF camera data from my image products ... >> there's no point to including it.) > > > > > - > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3763 - Release Date: 07/13/11 > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question, converting to greyscale
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > I went to a new dance venue last night and the blues room was lit with > orange rope lights. In short, the red channel is fairly well exposed, > but the others are a couple of stops under. > > As such, there's a lot of noise in the blue and green channels. > In lightroom, is there a way to convert to black and white either just using > the red channel, or better yet, using the blue and green in such a way > that it minimizes the noise? Sure: A: Hit the Grayscale button in the Develop module, then go into the Grayscale Channel Mixer and turn down the blue/green channel sliders, pull up the yellow-orange-red sliders. B: Stay in Color mode, go into the HSL panels ... "All" ... Set saturation on all channels to -100. Then adjust Luminosity sliders to present the best data. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question, converting to greyscale
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> I went to a new dance venue last night and the blues room was lit with >> orange rope lights. In short, the red channel is fairly well exposed, >> but the others are a couple of stops under. >> >> As such, there's a lot of noise in the blue and green channels. >> In lightroom, is there a way to convert to black and white either just using >> the red channel, or better yet, using the blue and green in such a way >> that it minimizes the noise? > > Sure: > > A: Hit the Grayscale button in the Develop module, then go into the > Grayscale Channel Mixer and turn down the blue/green channel sliders, > pull up the yellow-orange-red sliders. > > B: Stay in Color mode, go into the HSL panels ... "All" ... Set > saturation on all channels to -100. Then adjust Luminosity sliders to > present the best data. I use B. :-) Dave > -- > Godfrey > godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question, synchronizing camera clocks
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > I was shooting with both bodies this weekend, particularly during dance > contests when I had the FA31 on one body and the 18-250 on the other. > > Unfortunately, the clocks in the two cameras were out of sync by 5 minutes, > so sorting by capture time almost, but doesn't quite, work right. I don't > think so, I wasn't able to find it in the spitzer & resnick book, but is > there a way to select a group of pictures and say "correct the capture time > of all of these by 5 minutes"? In Lightroom, the "Metadata->Edit Capture Time..." command should do exactly what you want. There's also an option in the Catalog Preferences, Metadata tab, to "write date or time changes into proprietary raw files" if you want to punch it directly into the original RAW files too. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question, synchronizing camera clocks
On Dec 7, 2009, at 3:47 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I was shooting with both bodies this weekend, particularly during dance contests when I had the FA31 on one body and the 18-250 on the other. Unfortunately, the clocks in the two cameras were out of sync by 5 minutes, so sorting by capture time almost, but doesn't quite, work right. I don't think so, I wasn't able to find it in the spitzer & resnick book, but is there a way to select a group of pictures and say "correct the capture time of all of these by 5 minutes"? In Lightroom, the "Metadata->Edit Capture Time..." command should do exactly what you want. Thanks a bunch. If my cameras were exactly five hours out of sync, rather than five minutes, it would do exactly what I want. Unfortunately it seems that I have the choice of changing all of the files to the same time, or by an integer number of hours, not tweaking the files in one camera by five minutes so that a capture time sort works right. There's also an option in the Catalog Preferences, Metadata tab, to "write date or time changes into proprietary raw files" if you want to punch it directly into the original RAW files too. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question, synchronizing camera clocks
Experiment a little bit with a copy of the files. I seem to recall that if you pick a range, with the "most selected" file at the head, and set a specified time for that file, the others will shift by the relative amount that implies. On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Dec 7, 2009, at 3:47 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >>> >>> I was shooting with both bodies this weekend, particularly during dance >>> contests when I had the FA31 on one body and the 18-250 on the other. >>> >>> Unfortunately, the clocks in the two cameras were out of sync by 5 >>> minutes, >>> so sorting by capture time almost, but doesn't quite, work right. I >>> don't >>> think so, I wasn't able to find it in the spitzer & resnick book, but is >>> there a way to select a group of pictures and say "correct the capture >>> time >>> of all of these by 5 minutes"? >> >> In Lightroom, the "Metadata->Edit Capture Time..." command should do >> exactly what you want. > > > Thanks a bunch. If my cameras were exactly five hours out of sync, rather > than five minutes, it would do exactly what I want. > > Unfortunately it seems that I have the choice of changing all of the files > to the same time, or by an integer number of hours, not tweaking the files > in one camera by five minutes so that a capture time sort works right. > > >> There's also an option in the Catalog >> Preferences, Metadata tab, to "write date or time changes into >> proprietary raw files" if you want to punch it directly into the >> original RAW files too. >> >> -- >> Godfrey >> godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question, synchronizing camera clocks
2009/12/8 Larry Colen : > Unfortunately it seems that I have the choice of changing all of the files > to the same time, or by an integer number of hours, not tweaking the files > in one camera by five minutes so that a capture time sort works right. Would it be an option to ccircumvent the whole problem this way: 1. Do a manual reordering of the images, 2. With that sort-order, do a rename. This will create a filename sequence that's chronological, if you did the job right in step one. Then you'll get it right by sorting on filename, at least. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question, synchronizing camera clocks
Godfrey's right - I Just tried it - I selected two photos - edited the capture time of the top one by clicking on the seconds and adding two, clicked the change all button and the second photo had two seconds added. So it should be a matter of selecting all the shots from the camera you want to change - adding five minutes to the first of the selection and then change them all - a two-minute job! Alastair On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Experiment a little bit with a copy of the files. I seem to recall > that if you pick a range, with the "most selected" file at the head, > and set a specified time for that file, the others will shift by the > relative amount that implies. > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> >> On Dec 7, 2009, at 3:47 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I was shooting with both bodies this weekend, particularly during dance contests when I had the FA31 on one body and the 18-250 on the other. Unfortunately, the clocks in the two cameras were out of sync by 5 minutes, so sorting by capture time almost, but doesn't quite, work right. I don't think so, I wasn't able to find it in the spitzer & resnick book, but is there a way to select a group of pictures and say "correct the capture time of all of these by 5 minutes"? >>> >>> In Lightroom, the "Metadata->Edit Capture Time..." command should do >>> exactly what you want. >> >> >> Thanks a bunch. If my cameras were exactly five hours out of sync, rather >> than five minutes, it would do exactly what I want. >> >> Unfortunately it seems that I have the choice of changing all of the files >> to the same time, or by an integer number of hours, not tweaking the files >> in one camera by five minutes so that a capture time sort works right. >> >> >>> There's also an option in the Catalog >>> Preferences, Metadata tab, to "write date or time changes into >>> proprietary raw files" if you want to punch it directly into the >>> original RAW files too. >>> >>> -- >>> Godfrey >>> godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> -- >> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > > -- > Godfrey > godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question, synchronizing camera clocks
On Dec 8, 2009, at 1:22 AM, Alastair Robertson wrote: Godfrey's right - I Just tried it - I selected two photos - edited the capture time of the top one by clicking on the seconds and adding two, clicked the change all button and the second photo had two seconds added. So it should be a matter of selecting all the shots from the camera you want to change - adding five minutes to the first of the selection and then change them all - a two-minute job! Thanks, that seems to have worked properly, once I did it in gallery mode. Alastair On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Experiment a little bit with a copy of the files. I seem to recall that if you pick a range, with the "most selected" file at the head, and set a specified time for that file, the others will shift by the relative amount that implies. On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 7, 2009, at 3:47 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I was shooting with both bodies this weekend, particularly during dance contests when I had the FA31 on one body and the 18-250 on the other. Unfortunately, the clocks in the two cameras were out of sync by 5 minutes, so sorting by capture time almost, but doesn't quite, work right. I don't think so, I wasn't able to find it in the spitzer & resnick book, but is there a way to select a group of pictures and say "correct the capture time of all of these by 5 minutes"? In Lightroom, the "Metadata->Edit Capture Time..." command should do exactly what you want. Thanks a bunch. If my cameras were exactly five hours out of sync, rather than five minutes, it would do exactly what I want. Unfortunately it seems that I have the choice of changing all of the files to the same time, or by an integer number of hours, not tweaking the files in one camera by five minutes so that a capture time sort works right. There's also an option in the Catalog Preferences, Metadata tab, to "write date or time changes into proprietary raw files" if you want to punch it directly into the original RAW files too. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question, synchronizing camera clocks
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 4:44 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > Thanks, that seems to have worked properly, once I did it in gallery mode. Great! Glad to help. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question, sorting by autofocus
Lightroom does not include the Focus Mode or any other focusing system EXIF tokens in the EXIF metadata it displays. Probably the best thing you can do is to use EXIFtool to extract the focusing specific information from your image files in a list and then add it to the image files as keywords. (I suspect the reason they don't show it is that there are a number of different EXIF tokens used by different manufacturers for focus specific aspects of a capture ... it would be a fairly complex mess to sort it out and present it in a sensible way for all camera makes and models.) On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > I'm going over my photos from the event, and ran across a whole series of > shots that were perfectly focused, > on the microphone. I'd love to be able to sort photos on whether they were > autofocused or manually focused to see if it was me, or the camera, blowing > it. Is there a way to do this? I didn't see it, but could well have missed > it. > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question: cropped DNGs for panoramas
Larry Colen wrote: The Lightroom panorama function works pretty well, for most things. However, I have a couple cases of adjacent frames that each have a meteor trail in them. Since I can't tell LR which areas I specifically want to include/exclude in a panorama, is it possible to take my initial DNGs, and crop copies of them so that the area with the meteor trail is only in one file, forcing LR to include the meteor trail in the final panorama? I haven't yet tried this, I expect that it might work by using the export or print functionality, I.e. make a crop and export the cropped area as a DNG (or if need be a TIFF). I suspect that this is something trivial to do in Photoshop, but that's a can of worms I'd rather avoid at the moment. I just wasted a bunch of time wrestling with this. If you export a cropped dng as a dng, you get the full dng, with the cropping info. If you export it as a tiff it won't work in a merge. If you convert that tiff to a dng, it still won't work in a merge. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question: cropped DNGs for panoramas
On 13/08/2015 5:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Larry Colen wrote: The Lightroom panorama function works pretty well, for most things. However, I have a couple cases of adjacent frames that each have a meteor trail in them. Since I can't tell LR which areas I specifically want to include/exclude in a panorama, is it possible to take my initial DNGs, and crop copies of them so that the area with the meteor trail is only in one file, forcing LR to include the meteor trail in the final panorama? I haven't yet tried this, I expect that it might work by using the export or print functionality, I.e. make a crop and export the cropped area as a DNG (or if need be a TIFF). I suspect that this is something trivial to do in Photoshop, but that's a can of worms I'd rather avoid at the moment. I just wasted a bunch of time wrestling with this. If you export a cropped dng as a dng, you get the full dng, with the cropping info. If you export it as a tiff it won't work in a merge. If you convert that tiff to a dng, it still won't work in a merge. I could have told you that. This is both the beauty and Achilles heel of the way Lightroom processes a file. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question: sorting manual from auto focus?
There's an EXIF token "FocusMode" that EXIFtool can read, but I suspect it's somewhat variable as to what cameras support using it and how it's included in EXIF data. Lightroom does not display it nor present it as a sorting option, so you'd need to write a script with EXIFtool to determine if a file had it, interpret the data associated, and then generate and insert a keyword. If you save metadata in LR first, run a script external to LR to do this on your files, then re-open LR and tell it to read metadata, it will include the new keywords in the catalog. G On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > I assume that the exif data for photos mention whether they were taken on > auto focus or manual focus. > Is there a reasonably easy way in lightroom to sort photos out based on that? > I'd like to see how often I focus on the mic rather than the musician, versus > how often the camera does. > > I would settle for something that looked at the exif data and added a tag in > lightroom based on info in the exif. > > If need be, I'd settle for using another tool to do the job. > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question: sorting manual from auto focus?
Jeff Friedl has a metadata viewer tool available as a plug-in, but it doesn't look to include AF data. He might update if you ask him, he's fairly responsive. http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/metadata-presets On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > I assume that the exif data for photos mention whether they were taken on > auto focus or manual focus. > Is there a reasonably easy way in lightroom to sort photos out based on that? > I'd like to see how often I focus on the mic rather than the musician, versus > how often the camera does. > > I would settle for something that looked at the exif data and added a tag in > lightroom based on info in the exif. > > If need be, I'd settle for using another tool to do the job. > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.