Re: London Olympics (no spoilers)

2012-08-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
You're on the PDML.  That immediately invalidates the "normal" label.

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 3:08 AM, John Francis  wrote:
>
> So there I was watching tonight's NBC coverage of the Decathlon final.
> At one point I paused the playback. My wife remarked that any normal
> male would have paused to take a closer look at the blonde in the
> stands, rather than looking at the photographer walking through the
> shot carrying an ultra-telephoto lens ...
>
> P.S.  BMX bike riders are certifiably insane.
>
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Re: London Olympics

2012-08-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
A point of clarification: The UK certainly does have a constitution. It is true 
that its constitution is not contained in a single document as in the USA. 
Rather it can be found in numerous statutes, court decisions, royal 
prerogatives, parliamentary convention and treaties.

We've all likely heard of some of the statutes: the Magna Carta, the Act of 
Union and the Bill of Rights come to mind.

Cheers,
frank

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Christopher Hitchens

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From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
Sent: August 1, 2012 8/1/12
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Subject: Re: London Olympics

I realize that the UK has no constitution, but what about "the rights
of Englishmen"?

The American colonies rebelled not because they thought the rights
protecting citizens of England were insufficient, but because they
believed that those right were being denied to colonials.  Initially,
at least, they simply wanted to be treated the same as Englishmen back
in the home country were treated.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 6:18 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

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Re: London Olympics

2012-08-01 Thread Anthony Farr
On 2 August 2012 03:21, John Sessoms  wrote:
> Don't mean nothin' but given the earlier discussion of "What is Hockey?",
> take a look at today's (01Aug2012) Google Doodle.
>

As you rightly say, it "Don't mean nothin'..."  Google is a US based
corporation, and uses American English and American naming
conventions.

regards, Anthony

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Re: London Olympics

2012-08-01 Thread steve harley

on 2012-07-31 16:50 AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne wrote

I don't know if my impression of USA is accurate, but it comes across to here as offering 
no legal protection against slander to any person that is deemed, by some apparently 
magical consensus, to be a "public person". Seems no less worthy of a medal to 
me.


it's not that simple: in the US, an action against a defamer of a public figure 
must show "actual malice"




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RE: London Olympics

2012-08-01 Thread John Sessoms
Don't mean nothin' but given the earlier discussion of "What is 
Hockey?", take a look at today's (01Aug2012) Google Doodle.


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Re: London Olympics

2012-08-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I realize that the UK has no constitution, but what about "the rights
of Englishmen"?

The American colonies rebelled not because they thought the rights
protecting citizens of England were insufficient, but because they
believed that those right were being denied to colonials.  Initially,
at least, they simply wanted to be treated the same as Englishmen back
in the home country were treated.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 6:18 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

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Re: London Olympics

2012-08-01 Thread AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne
I don't know if my impression of USA is accurate, but it comes across to here 
as offering no legal protection against slander to any person that is deemed, 
by some apparently magical consensus, to be a "public person". Seems no less 
worthy of a medal to me.

John Sessoms  wrote:

>British Police win the gold for stupidity.


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RE: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> steve harley
> 
> on 2012-07-31 16:44 steve harley wrote
> > meanwhile, Twitter has banned, then reinstated, someone who tweeted
> > the business email address of an NBC executive (in disgust over
> > #NBCfail>
> 
> and to continue our exploration of consequences for utterances,
> 'Italy's highest court has ruled that telling a man he has "no balls"
> as an insult is a crime punishable with a fine because it hurts male
> pride ...'
> 
>  735>
> 

and rather curiously it all took place in the town of Potenza. Now, if it
had been Impotenza it might have been easier to understand...

B


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Re: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread steve harley

on 2012-07-31 16:44 steve harley wrote

meanwhile, Twitter has banned, then reinstated, someone who tweeted the
business email address of an NBC executive (in disgust over #NBCfail>


and to continue our exploration of consequences for utterances, 'Italy's 
highest court has ruled that telling a man he has "no balls" as an insult is a 
crime punishable with a fine because it hurts male pride ...'




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Re: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread John Francis

I would think PDML members could give the British police a close run.

I did not equate offensive posting to hate speech - I simply pointed
out that there is no single universal definition, and that in every
jurisdiction there is a somewhat arbitrary line drawn somewhere.

I suspect the reported case may well fail the test of "fair comment"
(or whether it would be possible for the hypothetical "reasonable
person" to hold such a viewpoint). That's up to the judge to decide.
(That would, of course, also be true of a "I hate/like cats!" post).

Perhaps the (current) British legal position is too restrictive.
But the American standpoint (where the legality of an offensive
statement depends on whether the exact nature of the slur falls into
certain categories, or uses certain prohibited words, and not how
hurtful the statement was intended to be) is not necessarily better.


On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 06:31:00PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:
> If I should tweet "I like cats!", I'm sure many cat haters would
> find that offensive. Thus are we reduced to the lowest thin skinned
> common denominator. It's rather extreme to elevate poor taste to the
> level of "hate speech".
> 
> British Police win the gold for stupidity.
> 
> 
> From: John Francis
> 
> >As it says at the bottom of the article you quoted, tweeting messages
> >considered menacing, offensive or indecent can lead to prosecution.
> >
> >Even in the USA, where "freedom of speech" is often taken to be
> >synonymous with "freedom from any consequences of your speech" there is
> >an exception for 'hate speech'. There are also statutes against cyber
> >bullying in several jurisdictions.
> >
> >Nothing is absolute. Just where the line is drawn between what is, and
> >what is not, acceptable behaviour varies considerably between countries.
> >
> >On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 05:15:46PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> >>I find this very strange.  Is offensive tweeting really a crime in
> >>Britain?  While the tweeter appears to be a jerk, didn't Daley
> >>increase the harm (if any) from the tweet by republishing it?
> >>
> >>
> >>UK police arrest teen for tweets about diver
> >>
> >>ASSOCIATED PRESS July 31, 2012 5:11AM
> >>Updated: July 31, 2012 8:16AM
> >>
> >>
> >>LONDON ? A teenager has been arrested on suspicion of posting
> >>malicious Twitter messages directed at British Olympic diver Tom
> >>Daley, U.K. police said Tuesday.
> >>
> >>Daley?s father died of brain cancer a year ago and the 18-year-old
> >>Olympian had hoped to win a medal ?for myself and my dad.? But he
> >>finished fourth on Monday, out of medal contention, in the 10-meter
> >>synchronized platform competition with teammate Pete Waterfield.
> >>
> >>Afterward, Daley tweeted a message saying ?After giving it my
> >>all...you get idiots sending me this...? and retweeted a message from
> >>user @Rileyy69 which said: ?You let your dad down i hope you know
> >>that.?
> >>
> >>Dorset Police said early Tuesday that a 17-year-old man was arrested
> >>?on suspicion of malicious communications? in relation to Twitter
> >>threats made against Daley.
> >>
> >>Police said the man was detained at a guest house in the southwestern
> >>coastal town of Weymouth in the early hours of the morning, and is
> >>currently helping police with their inquiries.
> >>
> >>In Britain, tweeting messages considered menacing, offensive or
> >>indecent can lead to prosecution.
> >>
> >>Dan Matyola
> >>http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
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RE: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread Bob W
The same person was repeatedly sending these messages and has been warned
about harrassment. The article you cited doesn't tell the whole story. 

It is true that you can be prosecuted for abusive behaviour, but it's by no
means a law that everybody supports, and so-called hate speech laws appear
to be just as dumb - why should someone's choice of religion be protected
from insult? I can understand it applying to things like race, age, sex,
handicap and suchlike because these are biological facts that we can do
nothing about and have not chosen. Religion, on the other hand, is not like
that, it's a choice just as politics and shopping is. 

You should be as free to insult my religion, or absence of, as they are to
insult my choice of political party or supermarket or poor sporting
achievements, but if you bombard me with texts about what a crap diver I am,
or follow me around shouting at me because I'm a member of the Loony Party,
I can have you charged with harrassment.

B

> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Daniel J. Matyola
> Sent: 31 July 2012 22:44
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: London Olympics
> 
> In the US, "hate speech" is actionable or criminal only if it is based
> on racial, religion or other classification, or if it is repeated
> often enough to become harassment or cyber stalking.   If I tweet that
> a certain baseball player is a lazy inept bum, and an embarrassment to
> his family, that would not be hate speech.  If I said instead he was an
> embarrassment to his race, that might be.
> 
> I can't imagine the tweet described in the article being considered
> criminal or actionable in the US.  Bad taste and lack of class are not
> yet violations of the law.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:31 PM, John Francis  wrote:
> >
> > As it says at the bottom of the article you quoted, tweeting messages
> > considered menacing, offensive or indecent can lead to prosecution.
> >
> > Even in the USA, where "freedom of speech" is often taken to be
> > synonymous with "freedom from any consequences of your speech"
> > there is an exception for 'hate speech'.  There are also statutes
> > against cyber bullying in several jurisdictions.
> >
> > Nothing is absolute. Just where the line is drawn between what is,
> and
> > what is not, acceptable behaviour varies considerably between
> countries.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 05:15:46PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> >> I find this very strange.  Is offensive tweeting really a crime in
> >> Britain?  While the tweeter appears to be a jerk, didn't Daley
> >> increase the harm (if any) from the tweet by republishing it?
> >>
> >>
> >> UK police arrest teen for tweets about diver
> >>
> >> ASSOCIATED PRESS July 31, 2012 5:11AM
> >> Updated: July 31, 2012 8:16AM
> >>
> >>
> >> LONDON ? A teenager has been arrested on suspicion of posting
> >> malicious Twitter messages directed at British Olympic diver Tom
> >> Daley, U.K. police said Tuesday.
> >>
> >> Daley?s father died of brain cancer a year ago and the 18-year-old
> >> Olympian had hoped to win a medal ?for myself and my dad.? But he
> >> finished fourth on Monday, out of medal contention, in the 10-meter
> >> synchronized platform competition with teammate Pete Waterfield.
> >>
> >> Afterward, Daley tweeted a message saying ?After giving it my
> >> all...you get idiots sending me this...? and retweeted a message
> from
> >> user @Rileyy69 which said: ?You let your dad down i hope you know
> >> that.?
> >>
> >> Dorset Police said early Tuesday that a 17-year-old man was arrested
> >> ?on suspicion of malicious communications? in relation to Twitter
> >> threats made against Daley.
> >>
> >> Police said the man was detained at a guest house in the
> southwestern
> >> coastal town of Weymouth in the early hours of the morning, and is
> >> currently helping police with their inquiries.
> >>
> >> In Britain, tweeting messages considered menacing, offensive or
> >> indecent can lead to prosecution.
> >>
> >> Dan Matyola
> >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> >>
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Re: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread John Sessoms
If I should tweet "I like cats!", I'm sure many cat haters would find 
that offensive. Thus are we reduced to the lowest thin skinned common 
denominator. It's rather extreme to elevate poor taste to the level of 
"hate speech".


British Police win the gold for stupidity.


From: John Francis


As it says at the bottom of the article you quoted, tweeting messages
considered menacing, offensive or indecent can lead to prosecution.

Even in the USA, where "freedom of speech" is often taken to be
synonymous with "freedom from any consequences of your speech" there is
an exception for 'hate speech'. There are also statutes against cyber
bullying in several jurisdictions.

Nothing is absolute. Just where the line is drawn between what is, and
what is not, acceptable behaviour varies considerably between countries.

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 05:15:46PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I find this very strange.  Is offensive tweeting really a crime in
Britain?  While the tweeter appears to be a jerk, didn't Daley
increase the harm (if any) from the tweet by republishing it?


UK police arrest teen for tweets about diver

ASSOCIATED PRESS July 31, 2012 5:11AM
Updated: July 31, 2012 8:16AM


LONDON ? A teenager has been arrested on suspicion of posting
malicious Twitter messages directed at British Olympic diver Tom
Daley, U.K. police said Tuesday.

Daley?s father died of brain cancer a year ago and the 18-year-old
Olympian had hoped to win a medal ?for myself and my dad.? But he
finished fourth on Monday, out of medal contention, in the 10-meter
synchronized platform competition with teammate Pete Waterfield.

Afterward, Daley tweeted a message saying ?After giving it my
all...you get idiots sending me this...? and retweeted a message from
user @Rileyy69 which said: ?You let your dad down i hope you know
that.?

Dorset Police said early Tuesday that a 17-year-old man was arrested
?on suspicion of malicious communications? in relation to Twitter
threats made against Daley.

Police said the man was detained at a guest house in the southwestern
coastal town of Weymouth in the early hours of the morning, and is
currently helping police with their inquiries.

In Britain, tweeting messages considered menacing, offensive or
indecent can lead to prosecution.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



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RE: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread John Sessoms

No Constitution, so no First Amendment.


From: "Daniel J. Matyola"


I find this very strange.  Is offensive tweeting really a crime in
Britain?  While the tweeter appears to be a jerk, didn't Daley
increase the harm (if any) from the tweet by republishing it?


UK police arrest teen for tweets about diver

ASSOCIATED PRESS July 31, 2012 5:11AM
Updated: July 31, 2012 8:16AM


LONDON ? A teenager has been arrested on suspicion of posting
malicious Twitter messages directed at British Olympic diver Tom
Daley, U.K. police said Tuesday.

Daley?s father died of brain cancer a year ago and the 18-year-old
Olympian had hoped to win a medal ?for myself and my dad.? But he
finished fourth on Monday, out of medal contention, in the 10-meter
synchronized platform competition with teammate Pete Waterfield.

Afterward, Daley tweeted a message saying ?After giving it my
all...you get idiots sending me this...? and retweeted a message from
user @Rileyy69 which said: ?You let your dad down i hope you know
that.?

Dorset Police said early Tuesday that a 17-year-old man was arrested
?on suspicion of malicious communications? in relation to Twitter
threats made against Daley.

Police said the man was detained at a guest house in the southwestern
coastal town of Weymouth in the early hours of the morning, and is
currently helping police with their inquiries.

In Britain, tweeting messages considered menacing, offensive or
indecent can lead to prosecution.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



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Re: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread Walt Gilbert

On 7/31/2012 4:54 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 31/7/12, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:


I find this very strange.  Is offensive tweeting really a crime in
Britain?  While the tweeter appears to be a jerk, didn't Daley
increase the harm (if any) from the tweet by republishing it?

The laws are being tested.

It's a criminal offence in the UK to publish defamatory information -
Twitter is another method...


The UK gives much greater leeway to plaintiffs in 
libel/slander/defamation cases than the US. It's relatively impossible 
for a public figure to sue for defamation in the US as the burden falls 
upon the plaintiff to demonstrate actual malice. The question then 
becomes whether or not the plaintiff in this case would be considered a 
public figure due to his status as an Olympic competitor.


The key precedents here would likely be either New York Times v. 
Sullivan if he were indeed considered a public figure 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Times_Co._v._Sullivan), or 
Brandenburg v. Ohio, which would require that the speech in question be 
both intended to incite violence, and likely to cause it 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio).


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Re: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 31/7/12, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I find this very strange.  Is offensive tweeting really a crime in
>Britain?  While the tweeter appears to be a jerk, didn't Daley
>increase the harm (if any) from the tweet by republishing it?

The laws are being tested.

It's a criminal offence in the UK to publish defamatory information -
Twitter is another method...



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Re: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
In the US, "hate speech" is actionable or criminal only if it is based
on racial, religion or other classification, or if it is repeated
often enough to become harassment or cyber stalking.   If I tweet that
a certain baseball player is a lazy inept bum, and an embarrassment to
his family, that would not be hate speech.  If I said instead he was
an embarrassment to his race, that might be.

I can't imagine the tweet described in the article being considered
criminal or actionable in the US.  Bad taste and lack of class are not
yet violations of the law.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:31 PM, John Francis  wrote:
>
> As it says at the bottom of the article you quoted, tweeting messages
> considered menacing, offensive or indecent can lead to prosecution.
>
> Even in the USA, where "freedom of speech" is often taken to be
> synonymous with "freedom from any consequences of your speech"
> there is an exception for 'hate speech'.  There are also statutes
> against cyber bullying in several jurisdictions.
>
> Nothing is absolute. Just where the line is drawn between what is, and
> what is not, acceptable behaviour varies considerably between countries.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 05:15:46PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>> I find this very strange.  Is offensive tweeting really a crime in
>> Britain?  While the tweeter appears to be a jerk, didn't Daley
>> increase the harm (if any) from the tweet by republishing it?
>>
>>
>> UK police arrest teen for tweets about diver
>>
>> ASSOCIATED PRESS July 31, 2012 5:11AM
>> Updated: July 31, 2012 8:16AM
>>
>>
>> LONDON ? A teenager has been arrested on suspicion of posting
>> malicious Twitter messages directed at British Olympic diver Tom
>> Daley, U.K. police said Tuesday.
>>
>> Daley?s father died of brain cancer a year ago and the 18-year-old
>> Olympian had hoped to win a medal ?for myself and my dad.? But he
>> finished fourth on Monday, out of medal contention, in the 10-meter
>> synchronized platform competition with teammate Pete Waterfield.
>>
>> Afterward, Daley tweeted a message saying ?After giving it my
>> all...you get idiots sending me this...? and retweeted a message from
>> user @Rileyy69 which said: ?You let your dad down i hope you know
>> that.?
>>
>> Dorset Police said early Tuesday that a 17-year-old man was arrested
>> ?on suspicion of malicious communications? in relation to Twitter
>> threats made against Daley.
>>
>> Police said the man was detained at a guest house in the southwestern
>> coastal town of Weymouth in the early hours of the morning, and is
>> currently helping police with their inquiries.
>>
>> In Britain, tweeting messages considered menacing, offensive or
>> indecent can lead to prosecution.
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
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Re: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread John Francis

As it says at the bottom of the article you quoted, tweeting messages
considered menacing, offensive or indecent can lead to prosecution.

Even in the USA, where "freedom of speech" is often taken to be
synonymous with "freedom from any consequences of your speech"
there is an exception for 'hate speech'.  There are also statutes
against cyber bullying in several jurisdictions.

Nothing is absolute. Just where the line is drawn between what is, and
what is not, acceptable behaviour varies considerably between countries.


On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 05:15:46PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> I find this very strange.  Is offensive tweeting really a crime in
> Britain?  While the tweeter appears to be a jerk, didn't Daley
> increase the harm (if any) from the tweet by republishing it?
> 
> 
> UK police arrest teen for tweets about diver
> 
> ASSOCIATED PRESS July 31, 2012 5:11AM
> Updated: July 31, 2012 8:16AM
> 
> 
> LONDON ? A teenager has been arrested on suspicion of posting
> malicious Twitter messages directed at British Olympic diver Tom
> Daley, U.K. police said Tuesday.
> 
> Daley?s father died of brain cancer a year ago and the 18-year-old
> Olympian had hoped to win a medal ?for myself and my dad.? But he
> finished fourth on Monday, out of medal contention, in the 10-meter
> synchronized platform competition with teammate Pete Waterfield.
> 
> Afterward, Daley tweeted a message saying ?After giving it my
> all...you get idiots sending me this...? and retweeted a message from
> user @Rileyy69 which said: ?You let your dad down i hope you know
> that.?
> 
> Dorset Police said early Tuesday that a 17-year-old man was arrested
> ?on suspicion of malicious communications? in relation to Twitter
> threats made against Daley.
> 
> Police said the man was detained at a guest house in the southwestern
> coastal town of Weymouth in the early hours of the morning, and is
> currently helping police with their inquiries.
> 
> In Britain, tweeting messages considered menacing, offensive or
> indecent can lead to prosecution.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne
Wow... 
The first thing that went through my mind was that this criminalize stupidity 
in a public space. I can't see much good coming from that. :-(

"Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:

>I find this very strange.  Is offensive tweeting really a crime in
>Britain?  While the tweeter appears to be a jerk, didn't Daley
>increase the harm (if any) from the tweet by republishing it?
>
>
>UK police arrest teen for tweets about diver
>
>ASSOCIATED PRESS July 31, 2012 5:11AM
>Updated: July 31, 2012 8:16AM
>
>
>LONDON — A teenager has been arrested on suspicion of posting
>malicious Twitter messages directed at British Olympic diver Tom
>Daley, U.K. police said Tuesday.
>
>Daley’s father died of brain cancer a year ago and the 18-year-old
>Olympian had hoped to win a medal “for myself and my dad.” But he
>finished fourth on Monday, out of medal contention, in the 10-meter
>synchronized platform competition with teammate Pete Waterfield.
>
>Afterward, Daley tweeted a message saying “After giving it my
>all...you get idiots sending me this...” and retweeted a message from
>user @Rileyy69 which said: “You let your dad down i hope you know
>that.”
>
>Dorset Police said early Tuesday that a 17-year-old man was arrested
>“on suspicion of malicious communications” in relation to Twitter
>threats made against Daley.
>
>Police said the man was detained at a guest house in the southwestern
>coastal town of Weymouth in the early hours of the morning, and is
>currently helping police with their inquiries.
>
>In Britain, tweeting messages considered menacing, offensive or
>indecent can lead to prosecution.
>
>Dan Matyola
>http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: London Olympics 2012

2012-07-27 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Bob W :


Let's hope it's a good one. After a week of gloriously hot and sunny weather
the day itself has dawned wet, just in time.

You probably don't need this, but here is a guide for the perplexed:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18983558

Here's an excerpt from the bit about newspaper humour:
'In the broadsheets it can be a little more acid, exemplified by AA Gill's
depiction of shadow chancellor Ed Balls ("the wide-eyed look of a man being
given a surprise prostate examination") 




With a name like that I suspect he's used to journalists (and others)  
taking the Micky (by the way, is that a purely British colloquialism?).





Of course the very best guide to this sort of thing is the incomparable:


RE: London Olympics 2012

2012-07-26 Thread Bob W
Let's hope it's a good one. After a week of gloriously hot and sunny weather
the day itself has dawned wet, just in time. 

You probably don't need this, but here is a guide for the perplexed:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18983558

Here's an excerpt from the bit about newspaper humour:
'In the broadsheets it can be a little more acid, exemplified by AA Gill's
depiction of shadow chancellor Ed Balls ("the wide-eyed look of a man being
given a surprise prostate examination") and the Guardian's Marina Hyde on
Sting and wife Trudie Styler ("possibly the least self-regarding people on
the planet they have done so much to save").'

Of course the very best guide to this sort of thing is the incomparable:


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> Firstly, to all the UK PDMLers, those I've met and those I haven't, I
> wish you all a great Olympics.
> 
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> So see everyone at the Olympics!
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