Re: New camera, new format.
Way to go, Malcolm! Welcome to the Brotherhood! -Brother Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New camera, new format.
>Well, I've done it now and become a Pentax fanatic in 35mm and medium >format. I am now looking at a 6x7 with 105mm lens - very nice too. It was >too good a deal to pass on. > >Despite all the comments about its size, I didn't need to remove the front >door, to get it into the house! > >As the sun is out, I think it ought to be tried out in the forest. Goes for >coat. Malcolm, you're showing up on radar at West Drayton... SC ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New camera, new format.
Malcolm, It seems that once you seriously look at the 67, it suddenly feels just right. What a beautiful camera and format! Welcome to the brother/sisterhood. Brother Bruce Thursday, April 18, 2002, 5:31:57 AM, you wrote: MS> Well, I've done it now and become a Pentax fanatic in 35mm and medium MS> format. I am now looking at a 6x7 with 105mm lens - very nice too. It was MS> too good a deal to pass on. MS> Despite all the comments about its size, I didn't need to remove the front MS> door, to get it into the house! MS> As the sun is out, I think it ought to be tried out in the forest. Goes for MS> coat. MS> Malcolm MS> - MS> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, MS> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to MS> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: New camera, new format.
>PS Surprised at Cotty's comments - I will not be acquiring another camera >for years - sorry if you think I was OTT. Next time you see one of my posts, >just delete it without reading it. Big camera event for me, my apologies. Malcolm, don't mistake my sad and twisted sense of humour for anything else! I was simply being silly. You mentioned the size of the Pentax 67 camera, and that you were going out to take some pics - I pointed out that you were showing up on the radar at West Drayton. Allow me a detailed explanation so that your humour gland may be enabled my dear chap. West Drayton (England, UK) is where a lot of air traffic controllers sit and watch screens with (apparently very small) text representing aeroplanes flying about the skies. Presumably they have radar installations there or thereabouts, and these radar thingies (you know - big dish-type structures that whizz around) pick up large metal objects, usually aeroplanes. My purile attempt at a joke was in drawing attention to the large metallic mass of your lovely new Pentax 67 camera, and that it was being picked up by said radar at West Drayton. I meant absolutely no offence and my sincere and humblest of apologies if any was taken. May the fleas of a thousand camels infest my armpits. Sincerely, Cotty PS - since I'm seeing delayed digest posts, I better apologise for another posting where I refer to the Brotherhood of Pentax Medium Format as 'nauseous'. By pure chance, a future copy of a PDML digest post just slipped into my in box through a freak wormhole in the space/time/Apple continuum and I must also apologise for: All coach drivers in Bognor Referring to Peter of Camera Direct as a 'Fat Cat' photo dealer with no scruples and a matching pair of LX2000s hollowed out and made into alarm clocks Not warning you that Mafud makes a comeback in 2006 Accidentally listing 368 Pentax eBay auctions, all with less than 1 hour to run and sitting on a measley $29 by 10 bids from some dweeb called [EMAIL PROTECTED] each in ten cent increments and, er, everything. PPS ;-) ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New camera, new format.
- Original Message - From: Malcolm Smith Subject: RE: New camera, new format. > I hope you are not in dialogue with the flushing item! > > If you want to make a point - go for me, easy target, new 67 owner. > > I am mostly committed to 35mm film - sorry we have fallen out, but your > comments aren't easy to agree with on this occasion. > > Tell me what you really think "off list". > Malcolm - 35mm good! I was going to welcome you to the brotherhood, but it seems you are not quite ready yet. Brother William - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New camera, new format.
On Thursday, April 18, 2002, at 05:20 PM, Cotty wrote: >> Way to go, Malcolm! Welcome to the Brotherhood! > > Oh Lord. We're coming for you, next, Cotty! Just think of how light the 67 is in comparison to those Betacams... -Brother Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New camera, new format.
Aaron wrote: > We're coming for you, next, Cotty! Just think of how light > the 67 is in comparison to those Betacams... all this apprehension concerning the weight of the 6x7 is folderol & balderdash - not only is the filmgate the ideal format, but the mass has also been very carefully designed to be ideal for stability in handheld situations. Those wimpy "miniature format" 35mm cameras float around w/ a life of their own and require an unnecessary and distracting concerted effort to hold them still ! !8^D Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New camera, new format.
Brother Bill, Does Brother Aaron give you a commission for every convert? > > Which one do you want? The F4/100mm or F4/135mm? According to the specs, > > the closest focussing distance is 443 mm resp 750 mm. It sounds more like CF than macro. How do these numbers translate to image magnification. > > ... not to mention the helical extension as well as normal > tubes and the bellows system ( ... just tryin' to help :^) This sounds more like it. I'll have to do my homework. Jeff - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New camera, new format.
Jeff wrote: > Brother Bill, > Does Brother Aaron give you a commission for every convert? nah - he's a relative newbie, but he has great enthusiasm! :^) I've been convinced of the 6x7's superiority for ~20yrs. In fact, I used medium formats for many years before even owning any 35mm gear (and even then it was rangefinders for years before SLRs. Brownies, 6x6 folders and the like. TTL viewing/focusing, DOF preview, Aperture Priority exposure and such came very late in my photographic journeys. Only bad luck made the appearance of a 6x7 at a time co-incident w/ a bit of extra dough forstayed possession of aforementioned jewel - all things come to he who waits. !8^D - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New camera, new format.
>>> Way to go, Malcolm! Welcome to the Brotherhood! >> >> Oh Lord. > >We're coming for you, next, Cotty! Just think of how light the 67 is in >comparison to those Betacams... Cotty: 'No, you'll never get me. Stay back, stay back I say! No! N!!! AAARRGGGHHHh' (med shot of spot where Cotty stood, now a smouldering white stain on ground. Tilt up to reveal Brotherhood stood in a circle, shoulders rising and falling in unison) Botherhood: 'Hilk hilk hilk' Actually, I have already purchased some MF bits and bobs - tho not a complete camera yet. I'm afraid I have some bad news: it's not Pentax. I spent a lot of time deliberating, but cost was simply too much of an overriding factor. It had to be cheap, while delivering decent quality. Can't say too much right now... C ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New camera, new format.
> Aaron wrote: > >> We're coming for you, next, Cotty! Just think of how light >> the 67 is in comparison to those Betacams... > > all this apprehension concerning the weight of the 6x7 is > folderol & balderdash - not only is the filmgate the ideal > format, but the mass has also been very carefully designed > to be ideal for stability in handheld situations. Those > wimpy "miniature format" 35mm cameras float around w/ a life > of their own and require an unnecessary and distracting > concerted effort to hold them still ! > > !8^D Bill Nice try Bill. ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New camera, new format.
- Original Message - From: Jeff Subject: Re: New camera, new format. > > > > Which one do you want? The F4/100mm or F4/135mm? According to the specs, > > > the closest focussing distance is 443 mm resp 750 mm. > > It sounds more like CF than macro. How do these numbers translate to image > magnification. The 135 macro focuses to 1/3 life size. The bellows are a tremendous help for macro work. > > > > > ... not to mention the helical extension as well as normal > > tubes and the bellows system ( ... just tryin' to help :^) > > This sounds more like it. I'll have to do my homework. I just lost on a helical tube for the 6x7 last night. If you want any sort of close focusing like you get with 35mm, you need the extension tubes. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New camera, new format.
Thanks Bill for your info. As for the helical tube, could I get 1:1 attached to either one of these lenses? What was the winning bid for it on eBay? TIA, Jeff - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 6:47 PM Subject: Re: New camera, new format. > - Original Message - > From: Jeff > Subject: Re: New camera, new format. > > > > > > > Which one do you want? The F4/100mm or F4/135mm? According > to the specs, > > > > the closest focussing distance is 443 mm resp 750 mm. > > > > It sounds more like CF than macro. How do these numbers > translate to image > > magnification. > > The 135 macro focuses to 1/3 life size. The bellows are a > tremendous help for macro work. > > > > > > > > ... not to mention the helical extension as well as normal > > > tubes and the bellows system ( ... just tryin' to help :^) > > > > This sounds more like it. I'll have to do my homework. > > I just lost on a helical tube for the 6x7 last night. If you > want any sort of close focusing like you get with 35mm, you need > the extension tubes. > > William Robb > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Camera, New Format
>Cotty has a Lubitel? Nope. :-) ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Camera, New Format
> >Cotty has a Lubitel? > > Nope. Pentacon 6? Bill KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Camera, New Format
In a message dated 4/20/2002 9:09:38 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >Cotty has a Lubitel? > > > > Nope. > > Pentacon 6? > Maybe a Yashica Mat? (Surely *not* a Seagull TLR.) ERNR My photographs hang on the virtual walls at http://members.aol.com/ernreed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Camera, New Format
that sounds like rolleicord? do i get a candy? - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 4:16 PM Subject: Re: New Camera, New Format > Nope. > > I said cheap, but I said quality also. Think entry level of quality... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Camera, New Format
At 05:49 PM 4/20/02 -0400, you wrote: >From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: New Camera, New Format > > >> > >Cotty has a Lubitel? > >> > > >> > Nope. > >> > >> Pentacon 6? > >> > > > >Maybe a Yashica Mat? (Surely *not* a Seagull TLR.) > >Nope. > >I said cheap, but I said quality also. Think entry level of quality... Diana/Holga? * KC8TKA --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Camera, New Format
>Diana? Pardon me? ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Camera, New Format
>> >> > >Cotty has a Lubitel? >> >> > >> >> > Nope. >> >> >> >> Pentacon 6? >> >> >> > >> >Maybe a Yashica Mat? (Surely *not* a Seagull TLR.) >> >> Nope. >> >> I said cheap, but I said quality also. Think entry level of quality... > >Ah. An old Rolleiflex! I nearly went that way. But if I'm going to take landscapes I need mirror lock-up... It's nothing special, you'll all groan... C ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Camera, New Format
>that sounds like rolleicord? do i get a candy? No no no! A guy called Zac told me that I'd have to use my Brain for the Zone system... ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Camera, New Format
Think entry level of quality... > > A Mamiya TLR, perhaps a C220. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: New Camera, New Format
What you need mirror lock-up on a TLR for??? And now for my guess - Kiev? Lukasz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 12:46 AM To: Pentax List Subject: Re: New Camera, New Format >> >> > >Cotty has a Lubitel? >> >> > >> >> > Nope. >> >> >> >> Pentacon 6? >> >> >> > >> >Maybe a Yashica Mat? (Surely *not* a Seagull TLR.) >> >> Nope. >> >> I said cheap, but I said quality also. Think entry level of quality... > >Ah. An old Rolleiflex! I nearly went that way. But if I'm going to take landscapes I need mirror lock-up... It's nothing special, you'll all groan... C ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Camera, New Format
In a message dated 4/20/2002 5:47:04 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >Ah. An old Rolleiflex! > > I nearly went that way. But if I'm going to take landscapes I need mirror > lock-up... > Not with a TLR, you wouldn't. ERNR My photographs hang on the virtual walls at http://members.aol.com/ernreed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Camera, New Format
PMFJI, but why would you need MLU on a Rolleiflex? They don't have a mirror. Cotty wrote: > >Ah. An old Rolleiflex! > > I nearly went that way. But if I'm going to take landscapes I need mirror > lock-up... -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Camera, New Format
Shel scribbled... > PMFJI, but why would you need MLU on a Rolleiflex? They don't have a > mirror. Ah, but they do have a mirror, is just isn't a moving one. :-) Bill KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Camera, New Format
>Come on Cotty!!! What is it? Or are you too ashamed? Pretty ashamed. I wish I could stretch to a Pentax but, I need to keep costs as low as possible for the time being. If I can live with MF then doubtless in future I would consider a Pentax 645. Regarding mirrors and TLRs - - *I* didn't say anything about a TLR. I just said - think entry level for a good quality system. Maybe I was wrong in that. I'm not sure now. Anyway, I want to do my landscapes on larger film, so if I want mirror lock-up, then it's going to be an SLR. **A guy called ZAC told me that I'd need to use my BRAIN for the ZONE system** ;-) Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Camera, New Format
So, which one? An ETRs or an SQ-A? Or something older? Gianfranco (do I win something??) Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > **A guy called ZAC told me that I'd need to use my BRAIN for the ZONE > system** = Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Camera, New Format
C> **A guy called ZAC told me that I'd need to use my BRAIN for the ZONE C> system** C> ;-) C> Cotty Hah! Easy Cotty ;-) Zenza Bronica. Which one? Frantisek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
