Re: OT: Notebook Problems :(! Operating System Not Found

2004-01-31 Thread Cotty
On 30/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

I don't think it's the harddrive so much as some other thing.. Some guy on
the net with a similar problem said he went out and bought another
harddrive, which was fine for 3 days, then the same thing happened.. I'd
hate that to be me. It's heartbreaking.. my baby's only 2 years old :( And I
fear it's giving me the chance to get in now just to backup stuff and won't
be running long. At first I thought it was a virus, but it's not. I never
thought I'd say this, but I WISH IT WERE A VIRUS.. cos then the fix would be
a simple reformat.. :((

Ryan

Ryan, unless someone's already suggested this, have you tried booting up
from an OS CD? If the computer will run happily from the CD, will it then
access your data on the hard drive?

The process, as the Cat In The Hat said, is 'Eliminatus Calculatus. To
find out what it is, first you find out what it is not

Swapping out a hard drive on a laptop should be relatively easy. Have you
got one you could borrow? Clicking sounds can come from a number of
sources...hard drives sure...inverter boards can click...speakers can
just click away sometimes - if there's a problem.

The only correct way to troubleshoot computer hardware is to replace
components according to the manufacturer's protocols which will be listed
in the Troubleshooting section of the Service Manual for the particular
machine. In your case it will go something like:

Computer refuses to start up:

1/ Start up from Boot CD

2/ Restart using reset button.

3/ Replace main battery.

4/Try known good power adapter

5/ Replace PRAM battery

6/ Replace hard drive

7/ Replace Power Board

8/ Replace logic Board


(obviously this is not meant for your machine or any machine, rather it
is a very rough example of how the instructions might look)

This is why service centers for computers cost so much, because they have
test jigs and zillions  of components at hand to try. Testing a Power
Board may be too time consuming and labor-intensive when the alternative
of trying a 'known good' unit is quick and usually foolproof.

Sorry you are having problems, but unless you find a forum where other
users of the same machine post quick fix-its (like: 'oh yeah, yer hinge
is flapping, superglue it'), then the repair route can be a real PITA.

HTH






Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: OT: Notebook Problems :(! Operating System Not Found

2004-01-30 Thread Mark Roberts
Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Completely off-topic but I was wondering if anyone's had this problem before
on a laptop. Mine's being difficult lately and since yesterday I've turned
it on several times only to have a black screen with the words 'Operating
System Not Found' after the Compaq boot screen. This symptom's accompanied
by a clicking noise from the harddrive. After about a million tries, its
finally restarted this morning but I dare not say how long it'll be up for.

Sounds like major hard drive trouble brewing. Back up everything NOW!

Some research on the net suggests something like a loose IDE connection,
which makes the comp not recognise a fixed drive.

Not very likely on a laptop but you never know.


-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



RE: OT: Notebook Problems :(! Operating System Not Found

2004-01-30 Thread Jeff Jonsson
I completely agree. The clicking is likely the read head arm wildly
moving back and forth between its stops, trying to align itself. Your HD
is giving up the ghost, and if you have data you want to save, save it
now!

Jeff.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 3:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: Notebook Problems :(! Operating System Not Found


Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Completely off-topic but I was wondering if anyone's had this problem 
before on a laptop. Mine's being difficult lately and since yesterday 
I've turned it on several times only to have a black screen with the 
words 'Operating System Not Found' after the Compaq boot screen. This 
symptom's accompanied by a clicking noise from the harddrive. After 
about a million tries, its finally restarted this morning but I dare 
not say how long it'll be up for.

Sounds like major hard drive trouble brewing. Back up everything NOW!

Some research on the net suggests something like a loose IDE 
connection, which makes the comp not recognise a fixed drive.

Not very likely on a laptop but you never know.


-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com




Re: OT: Notebook Problems :(! Operating System Not Found

2004-01-30 Thread Ryan Lee
I don't think it's the harddrive so much as some other thing.. Some guy on
the net with a similar problem said he went out and bought another
harddrive, which was fine for 3 days, then the same thing happened.. I'd
hate that to be me. It's heartbreaking.. my baby's only 2 years old :( And I
fear it's giving me the chance to get in now just to backup stuff and won't
be running long. At first I thought it was a virus, but it's not. I never
thought I'd say this, but I WISH IT WERE A VIRUS.. cos then the fix would be
a simple reformat.. :((

Ryan


- Original Message - 
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: OT: Notebook Problems :(! Operating System Not Found

 Sounds like major hard drive trouble brewing. Back up everything NOW!

 Mark Roberts
 Photography and writing
 www.robertstech.com





Re: OT: Notebook Problems :(! Operating System Not Found

2004-01-30 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Ryan,

Having just recovered from the 2nd hard drive failure on my Compaq
laptop (can I say the word LEMON!), if you have the thing accessing at
all, don't turn it off!  Back up everything that you can't reload.

My first HD failure acted more like yours.  I was able to pull
everything off before the drive went belly up.  The second failure
(after a blown motherboard) up and failed big time.  I lost everything
that wasn't backed up.  More than I care to think about but not so
much as to put me a real bind.

Needless to say, I have gotten a new machine (not a Compaq!) as I don't trust that
crappy Compaq as far as I can throw it.  I think two drives and a
motherboard in less than 1 year justifies my feelings.

BACKUP!

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Friday, January 30, 2004, 2:04:59 PM, you wrote:

RL Completely off-topic but I was wondering if anyone's had this problem before
RL on a laptop. Mine's being difficult lately and since yesterday I've turned
RL it on several times only to have a black screen with the words 'Operating
RL System Not Found' after the Compaq boot screen. This symptom's accompanied
RL by a clicking noise from the harddrive. After about a million tries, its
RL finally restarted this morning but I dare not say how long it'll be up for.
RL Some research on the net suggests something like a loose IDE connection,
RL which makes the comp not recognise a fixed drive. I hope this is the case
RL because hardware replacement's going to be ex.. I'll still have to give the
RL people at Compaq a call and maybe send it down for servicing, but from past
RL experiences, their support department likes to go round in circles. Anyway,
RL I was wondering if anyone's had the same problem and how they got around it
RL (not counting the solutions involving buying a new one..)

RL Regards,
RL Ryan






Re: OT: Notebook Problems :(! Operating System Not Found

2004-01-30 Thread Herb Chong
the clicking sounds come from the drive recalibrating. if a second drive
dies in the same manner, the IDE controller is bad and your whole laptop is
junk. a loose cable will cause no sounds at all. if you have ever
disassembled one, you will see that to come loose, the drive has to fall out
of the computer.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Notebook Problems :(! Operating System Not Found


 I don't think it's the harddrive so much as some other thing.. Some guy on
 the net with a similar problem said he went out and bought another
 harddrive, which was fine for 3 days, then the same thing happened.. I'd
 hate that to be me. It's heartbreaking.. my baby's only 2 years old :( And
I
 fear it's giving me the chance to get in now just to backup stuff and
won't
 be running long. At first I thought it was a virus, but it's not. I never
 thought I'd say this, but I WISH IT WERE A VIRUS.. cos then the fix would
be
 a simple reformat.. :((