Re: PESO #013 - "Under the olive trees"
Very nice! I would crop most of the yellow flowers on the bottom part. The combination of the dark green olive trees and the fresh green of the grass is perfect. Maybe a little yellow. Toine 2009/4/9 Boris Liberman : > Hi! > > Please be brutal and honest, as I've already processed this image in 3 > different ways, and I am not sure I am finished with it yet. > > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/04/peso-2009-013.html > > Warning: full image is 250 kb and 1024 pixels across. > > Thanks. > > Boris > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO #013 - "Under the olive trees"
In a message dated 4/9/2009 9:54:03 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bori...@gmail.com writes: Hi! Please be brutal and honest, as I've already processed this image in 3 different ways, and I am not sure I am finished with it yet. http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/04/peso-2009-013.html Warning: full image is 250 kb and 1024 pixels across. Thanks. Boris Doesn't do much for me, Boris. I am a tree person, so I'd like to see more of the trees. Right now it's a bunch of weeds and tree bases. HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein **Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare0003) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO #013 - "Under the olive trees"
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 07:53:46PM +0300, Boris Liberman wrote: > Hi! > > Please be brutal and honest, as I've already processed this image in 3 > different ways, and I am not sure I am finished with it yet. > > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/04/peso-2009-013.html I'm looking at it on my crappy monitor at work, but I like it. I like the luminosit of the grass contrasting with the (on my monitor) dark and forboding trees. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO #013 - "Under the olive trees" - Follow-up to Bob W's comment
> >> Hi! > >> > >> Please be brutal and honest, as I've already processed this > >> image in 3 > >> different ways, and I am not sure I am finished with it yet. > >> > >> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/04/peso-2009-013.html > >> > >> Warning: full image is 250 kb and 1024 pixels across. > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> Boris > > > > Another good one. Nice and fresh. Lovely olive trees. I've > just read Jean de > > Florette and Manon des Sources for the first time, so now > whenever I see an > > olive tree I think of Galinette. > > > > Bob > > > > Bob, > > A very interesting observation. Would you think you like the picture > less, if you have not read the book, and watch the film? > > Thanks, > > -Pasvorn No, because I like everything that olive trees represent. The fate of Ugolin adds to everything that olive trees stand for in my mind. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO #013 - "Under the olive trees" - Follow-up to Bob W's comment
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Bob W wrote: >> Hi! >> >> Please be brutal and honest, as I've already processed this >> image in 3 >> different ways, and I am not sure I am finished with it yet. >> >> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/04/peso-2009-013.html >> >> Warning: full image is 250 kb and 1024 pixels across. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Boris > > Another good one. Nice and fresh. Lovely olive trees. I've just read Jean de > Florette and Manon des Sources for the first time, so now whenever I see an > olive tree I think of Galinette. > > Bob > Bob, A very interesting observation. Would you think you like the picture less, if you have not read the book, and watch the film? Thanks, -Pasvorn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO #013 - "Under the olive trees"
Boris, I'd like to think I understood your ideas about this photo. I like the grass, did't miss the tops of the trees - but I feel they could have more detail to them, they should contrast with the grass but still offer more shadow detail than they do now. It's not their dark shade, it's the softness that bothers me. I'd rather your rendering to Paul's. At the risk of getting another cartload of the matter, don't know you'd have enough DOF. As they are, the trees are neither detailed enough nor blurred. That's my main issue with this pic. LF (falling asleep, so maybe I'll just disappear for the rest of the day) Boris Liberman escreveu: Hi! Please be brutal and honest, as I've already processed this image in 3 different ways, and I am not sure I am finished with it yet. http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/04/peso-2009-013.html Warning: full image is 250 kb and 1024 pixels across. Thanks. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO #013 - "Under the olive trees"
> >Another good one. Nice and fresh. Lovely olive trees. I've > just read Jean de > >Florette and Manon des Sources for the first time, so now > whenever I see an > >olive tree I think of Galinette. > > Get those DVDs out please. You'll be whistling the tune for months. > Already bought them. Read Jean de F then watched the film, watched Manon then watched the film. Books and films both great, but the books are even better than the films. The character of Ugolin, for example, is very much more developed in the books and he's a very sympathetic but pathetic character. And the quality of the writing is superb, although I had to run to my dictionary quite often for some of the obscure Provencal / Catalan and agriculture vocabulary. Killer fact: The actors who played Ugolin and Manon were partners for 10 years and married for 2. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO #013 - "Under the olive trees"
I like this composition but I think it needs a little more work to 'lift' the tones in the olive trees, similar to Paul's reworking of the image. Having said that, I think I prefer your rendering of the grasses. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:53 +0300, "Boris Liberman" wrote: > Hi! > > Please be brutal and honest, as I've already processed this image in 3 > different ways, and I am not sure I am finished with it yet. > > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/04/peso-2009-013.html > > Warning: full image is 250 kb and 1024 pixels across. > > Thanks. > > Boris > -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO #013 - "Under the olive trees"
On 9/4/09, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: >Another good one. Nice and fresh. Lovely olive trees. I've just read Jean de >Florette and Manon des Sources for the first time, so now whenever I see an >olive tree I think of Galinette. Get those DVDs out please. You'll be whistling the tune for months. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO #013 - "Under the olive trees"
> Hi! > > Please be brutal and honest, as I've already processed this > image in 3 > different ways, and I am not sure I am finished with it yet. > > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/04/peso-2009-013.html > > Warning: full image is 250 kb and 1024 pixels across. > > Thanks. > > Boris Another good one. Nice and fresh. Lovely olive trees. I've just read Jean de Florette and Manon des Sources for the first time, so now whenever I see an olive tree I think of Galinette. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO #013 - "Under the olive trees"
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Hi! > > Please be brutal and honest, as I've already processed this image in 3 > different ways, and I am not sure I am finished with it yet. > > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/04/peso-2009-013.html > > Warning: full image is 250 kb and 1024 pixels across. > I've looked at this a number of times, but there was something vaguely unsatisfying about it - couldn't put my finger on why, there was just something missing. Then I looked at Paul's reworking of it and it made all the difference! I think yours is just too "flat". The extra punch really shows off the composition - it separates the trees from the grass and the blowing grass from the rest of the grass and makes it all work. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO #013 - "Under the olive trees"
Boris - I think I'd like to see the dark of the trees a little lighter so you can see more detail in the leaves and grasses in that area. Also, as Jack mentioned, more contrast between the greens and yellows in the grasses in the foreground. I messed with it a little with some dodging and burning and came up with this... http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/quickpage/quickpage.htm I'll remove it within 24 hours - sooner if you'd like. -p Jack Davis wrote: Hmmm..I get it, Boris. I'd try moving the right edge (if possible) so as not to cut well into that tree trunk. Closes up the right side. Anything that would increase contrast between the flax colored grass and the greener undergrowth would help. Yes, I have the proverbial 'flare for the obvious.' Maybe punch up the yellow and reduce the green?? Like the overall tone. Jack --- On Thu, 4/9/09, Boris Liberman wrote: From: Boris Liberman Subject: PESO #013 - "Under the olive trees" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 9:53 AM Hi! Please be brutal and honest, as I've already processed this image in 3 different ways, and I am not sure I am finished with it yet. http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/04/peso-2009-013.html Warning: full image is 250 kb and 1024 pixels across. Thanks. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.285 / Virus Database: 270.11.48/2049 - Release Date: 04/09/09 06:09:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO #013 - "Under the olive trees"
Hmmm..I get it, Boris. I'd try moving the right edge (if possible) so as not to cut well into that tree trunk. Closes up the right side. Anything that would increase contrast between the flax colored grass and the greener undergrowth would help. Yes, I have the proverbial 'flare for the obvious.' Maybe punch up the yellow and reduce the green?? Like the overall tone. Jack --- On Thu, 4/9/09, Boris Liberman wrote: > From: Boris Liberman > Subject: PESO #013 - "Under the olive trees" > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 9:53 AM > Hi! > > Please be brutal and honest, as I've already processed > this image in 3 different ways, and I am not sure I am > finished with it yet. > > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/04/peso-2009-013.html > > Warning: full image is 250 kb and 1024 pixels across. > > Thanks. > > Boris > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO #013 - "Under the olive trees"
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 07:53:46PM +0300, Boris Liberman scripsit: > Hi! > > Please be brutal and honest, as I've already processed this image in 3 > different ways, and I am not sure I am finished with it yet. > > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/04/peso-2009-013.html I like the subtle gradations of green; I like the jumbled tassells of the grass in the foreground. And then my eye moves up the picture, and the olive trees are a wall and a *short* wall, when I wanted the viewpoint to keep going either up or in. If the original capture has it, I expect I'd like it better with the view slid "up" so about half the foreground is lost and the tops of the trees are there. -- Graydon, who certainly doesn't have any complaints with it technically. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
