Re: PESO - Fountains Abbey Cellarium
Thanks, Bruce! http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 5:08 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Fountains Abbey Cellarium A standout, Rick. Of course, it's the new title that makes it. :-D On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519774size=lg Previously posted as Storeroom, which was such a lame title that few people looked. It's one of my favorites. (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments always appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Fountains Abbey Cellarium
On 20 October 2012 19:15, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519774size=lg Previously posted as Storeroom, which was such a lame title that few people looked. It's one of my favorites. (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments always appreciated! Rick Nobody commented on my comment to the boring storeroom shot so I'll post it here and it's bound to get loads of attention... Hi Rick. Thanks for posting some lovely shots of one of my favourite places. One of the highlights of our trip down the Cotswold Way last year was brought about because I was reading Hilary Mantel's Wolf Hall, which is about Thomas Cromwell. We turned a corner and there was a plaque stating Thomas Cromwell stood here and watched the dismantling of Hailes Abbey. One of those unexpected moments. I often wonder how we'd have been able to look after all of those lovely buildings in these times of austerity if Henry and his henchman Cromwell hadn't dismantled them. There were hundreds. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Fountains Abbey Cellarium
Chris, It might have turned out similarly over time. Hundreds of un-maintainable abbeys would have fallen into ruin, and a few would have been preserved--a slower process to the same end. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 5:11 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Fountains Abbey Cellarium On 20 October 2012 19:15, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519774size=lg Previously posted as Storeroom, which was such a lame title that few people looked. It's one of my favorites. (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments always appreciated! Rick Nobody commented on my comment to the boring storeroom shot so I'll post it here and it's bound to get loads of attention... Hi Rick. Thanks for posting some lovely shots of one of my favourite places. One of the highlights of our trip down the Cotswold Way last year was brought about because I was reading Hilary Mantel's Wolf Hall, which is about Thomas Cromwell. We turned a corner and there was a plaque stating Thomas Cromwell stood here and watched the dismantling of Hailes Abbey. One of those unexpected moments. I often wonder how we'd have been able to look after all of those lovely buildings in these times of austerity if Henry and his henchman Cromwell hadn't dismantled them. There were hundreds. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Fountains Abbey Cellarium
Very atmospheric. Love those arches. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 3 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 11:15:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Womerrwomer1...@yahoo.com To: Pentax Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Fountains Abbey Cellarium Message-ID: 1350756923.49851.yahoomail...@web121801.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519774size=lg Previously posted as Storeroom, which was such a lame title that few people looked.? It's one of my favorites. (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments always appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Fountains Abbey Cellarium
A standout, Rick. Of course, it's the new title that makes it. :-D On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519774size=lg Previously posted as Storeroom, which was such a lame title that few people looked. It's one of my favorites. (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments always appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Fountains Abbey Storerooms
On 18 October 2012 02:01, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Absolutely vast--this is perhaps a quarter of the total space: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519774size=lg Comments always appreciated. Rick Hi Rick. Thanks for posting some lovely shots of one of my favourite places. One of the highlights of our trip down the Cotswold Way last year was brought about because I was reading Hilary Mantel's Wolf Hall, which is about Thomas Cromwell. We turned a corner and there was a plaque stating Thomas Cromwell stood here and watched the dismantling of Hailes Abbey. One of those unexpected moments. I often wonder how we'd have been able to look after all of those lovely buildings in these times of austerity if Henry and his henchman Cromwell hadn't dismantled them. There were hundreds. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Fountains Abbey Cellarium
Now I know what a cellarium is :-) If I didn't look before it had nothing to do with your subject title.. it had to do with my obsession with my subject titles not gettin looked at :-) I like the arches and corridor a lot.. Had I been standing there I would have hung around a while to see if more interesting, less clumped together people showed up.. but one doesn't always have the luxury to do that ann On 10/20/2012 14:15, Rick Womer wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519774size=lg Previously posted as Storeroom, which was such a lame title that few people looked. It's one of my favorites. (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments always appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Fountains Abbey Cellarium
Very nice capture Rick! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Subject: PESO - Fountains Abbey Cellarium http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519774size=lg Previously posted as Storeroom, which was such a lame title that few people looked. It's one of my favorites. (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments always appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Fountains Abbey Cellarium
Excellent shot from the master of geometry! On Oct 20, 2012, at 3:00 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Very nice capture Rick! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Subject: PESO - Fountains Abbey Cellarium http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519774size=lg Previously posted as Storeroom, which was such a lame title that few people looked. It's one of my favorites. (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments always appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Fountains Abbey Cellarium
Goodness, Paul, I'm flattered! Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 3:26 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Fountains Abbey Cellarium Excellent shot from the master of geometry! On Oct 20, 2012, at 3:00 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Very nice capture Rick! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Subject: PESO - Fountains Abbey Cellarium http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519774size=lg Previously posted as Storeroom, which was such a lame title that few people looked. It's one of my favorites. (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments always appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Fountains Abbey Cellarium
Thanks, Ken! http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: kwal...@peoplepc.com kwal...@peoplepc.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 3:00 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Fountains Abbey Cellarium Very nice capture Rick! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Subject: PESO - Fountains Abbey Cellarium http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519774size=lg Previously posted as Storeroom, which was such a lame title that few people looked. It's one of my favorites. (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments always appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Fountains Abbey Cellarium
Let's see... There was a photographer with an assistant and a lot of gear doing an engagement shoot... then a group of schoolchildren... then a bus tour of seniors... and then, right before a large and noisy family group entered the scene, I got the pic. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 2:24 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Fountains Abbey Cellarium Now I know what a cellarium is :-) If I didn't look before it had nothing to do with your subject title.. it had to do with my obsession with my subject titles not gettin looked at :-) I like the arches and corridor a lot.. Had I been standing there I would have hung around a while to see if more interesting, less clumped together people showed up.. but one doesn't always have the luxury to do that ann On 10/20/2012 14:15, Rick Womer wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519774size=lg Previously posted as Storeroom, which was such a lame title that few people looked. It's one of my favorites. (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments always appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Fountains Abbey Cellarium
On 10/20/2012 21:58, Rick Womer wrote: Let's see... There was a photographer with an assistant and a lot of gear doing an engagement shoot... then a group of schoolchildren... then a bus tour of seniors... and then, right before a large and noisy family group entered the scene, I got the pic. Rick :-) swimming against the tide - in that case... ann http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 2:24 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Fountains Abbey Cellarium Now I know what a cellarium is :-) If I didn't look before it had nothing to do with your subject title.. it had to do with my obsession with my subject titles not gettin looked at :-) I like the arches and corridor a lot.. Had I been standing there I would have hung around a while to see if more interesting, less clumped together people showed up.. but one doesn't always have the luxury to do that ann On 10/20/2012 14:15, Rick Womer wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519774size=lg Previously posted as Storeroom, which was such a lame title that few people looked. It's one of my favorites. (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments always appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Fountains Abbey Cellarium
Beautiful! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Sent: October 20, 2012 10/20/12 To: Pentax List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Fountains Abbey Cellarium http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519774size=lg Previously posted as Storeroom, which was such a lame title that few people looked. It's one of my favorites. (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments always appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Fountains Abbey Chancel
From: Bob W From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of knarftheria...@gmail.com Amazing shot. Just think of all the events that happened at that church: weddings, baptisms, funerals. It must feel quite special at that spot. I don't think any of those things would have happened - it was an abbey, full of monks. It would have been licentiousness, greed, usury, fornication, gluttony and probably idolatry, otherwise Henry VIII would not have dissolved it, surely. The monasteries and abbeys were a kind of corporate, multinational organisation owing their allegiance to Rome, populated by powerful and ambitious men at the top. They controlled enormous agricultural holdings and acted as a giant wealth magnetic, sucking money out of the poor, whom they exploited ruthlessly by lying to them about their souls, preventing them from getting an education and bamboozling them into believing that their position at the bottom of society was ordained by god and therefore unchangeable. Nuns were little more than the monks' sexual playthings, and other woman were beneath acknowledgement as human beings. B I thought Henery VIII went after the monasteries because the Pope wouldn't let him divorce whats-her-name? Looting them of their ill gotten gains undermined the Pope's power base in England. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Fountains Abbey Chancel
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms Sent: 18 October 2012 17:43 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO - Fountains Abbey Chancel From: Bob W From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of knarftheria...@gmail.com Amazing shot. Just think of all the events that happened at that church: weddings, baptisms, funerals. It must feel quite special at that spot. I don't think any of those things would have happened - it was an abbey, full of monks. It would have been licentiousness, greed, usury, fornication, gluttony and probably idolatry, otherwise Henry VIII would not have dissolved it, surely. The monasteries and abbeys were a kind of corporate, multinational organisation owing their allegiance to Rome, populated by powerful and ambitious men at the top. They controlled enormous agricultural holdings and acted as a giant wealth magnetic, sucking money out of the poor, whom they exploited ruthlessly by lying to them about their souls, preventing them from getting an education and bamboozling them into believing that their position at the bottom of society was ordained by god and therefore unchangeable. Nuns were little more than the monks' sexual playthings, and other woman were beneath acknowledgement as human beings. B I thought Henery VIII went after the monasteries because the Pope wouldn't let him divorce whats-her-name? Looting them of their ill gotten gains undermined the Pope's power base in England. That's correct. Also a useful source of ready cash. otherwise Henry VIII would not have dissolved it, surely was sarcasm. The monks etc. were still a sink of corruption and vice though, and in the long run it was a good thing to break up their power. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Fountains Abbey Chancel
On Oct 17, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: The view down the nave from (what once was) the chancel: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519776size=lg That's lovely. So when will it be on Grand Designs? ;) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David Mann On Oct 17, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: The view down the nave from (what once was) the chancel: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519776size=lg That's lovely. So when will it be on Grand Designs? ;) As soon as this one's finished: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19064763 B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Fountains Abbey Chancel
Thanks, Bob! No, not so many earthquakes; and a fairly mild (though very wet) climate without so many freeze-thaw cycles, either. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:41 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Fountains Abbey Chancel Agreed, lovely! Standing for 900 years? I guess not to many earthquakes in those parts. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Lovely. I wonder what it looked like in it's heyday. On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: The view down the nave from (what once was) the chancel: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519776size=lg Comments always appreciated. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Dave! National Trust... Grand Designs... for some reason they're not often in the same sentence. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: David Mann dmann...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:49 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Fountains Abbey Chancel On Oct 17, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: The view down the nave from (what once was) the chancel: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519776size=lg That's lovely. So when will it be on Grand Designs? ;) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Steve! One can only imagine... Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 10:33 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Fountains Abbey Chancel Lovely. I wonder what it looked like in it's heyday. On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: The view down the nave from (what once was) the chancel: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519776size=lg Comments always appreciated. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Very nice. Well composed and exposed. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 5 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:19:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Womerrwomer1...@yahoo.com To: Pentax Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Fountains Abbey Chancel Message-ID: 1350436767.53028.yahoomail...@web121805.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 The view down the nave from (what once was) the chancel: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519776size=lg Comments always appreciated. Rick ? http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Amazing shot. Just think of all the events that happened at that church: weddings, baptisms, funerals. It must feel quite special at that spot. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Sent: October 16, 2012 10/16/12 To: Pentax List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Fountains Abbey Chancel The view down the nave from (what once was) the chancel: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519776size=lg Comments always appreciated. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of knarftheria...@gmail.com Amazing shot. Just think of all the events that happened at that church: weddings, baptisms, funerals. It must feel quite special at that spot. I don't think any of those things would have happened - it was an abbey, full of monks. It would have been licentiousness, greed, usury, fornication, gluttony and probably idolatry, otherwise Henry VIII would not have dissolved it, surely. The monasteries and abbeys were a kind of corporate, multinational organisation owing their allegiance to Rome, populated by powerful and ambitious men at the top. They controlled enormous agricultural holdings and acted as a giant wealth magnetic, sucking money out of the poor, whom they exploited ruthlessly by lying to them about their souls, preventing them from getting an education and bamboozling them into believing that their position at the bottom of society was ordained by god and therefore unchangeable. Nuns were little more than the monks' sexual playthings, and other woman were beneath acknowledgement as human beings. B Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Sent: October 16, 2012 10/16/12 To: Pentax List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Fountains Abbey Chancel The view down the nave from (what once was) the chancel: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519776size=lg Comments always appreciated. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Oh. Didn't read the title. Problem with abbies is the were too successful. All that organization and slavish devotion made for prosperous islands in a time of want. Learned, prosperous islands, when it comes to that. Figures they would eventually attract the less-than-pious. I don't think the vow of poverty went all the way up to the Abbot... ;-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Sent: October 17, 2012 10/17/12 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO - Fountains Abbey Chancel From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of knarftheria...@gmail.com Amazing shot. Just think of all the events that happened at that church: weddings, baptisms, funerals. It must feel quite special at that spot. I don't think any of those things would have happened - it was an abbey, full of monks. It would have been licentiousness, greed, usury, fornication, gluttony and probably idolatry, otherwise Henry VIII would not have dissolved it, surely. The monasteries and abbeys were a kind of corporate, multinational organisation owing their allegiance to Rome, populated by powerful and ambitious men at the top. They controlled enormous agricultural holdings and acted as a giant wealth magnetic, sucking money out of the poor, whom they exploited ruthlessly by lying to them about their souls, preventing them from getting an education and bamboozling them into believing that their position at the bottom of society was ordained by god and therefore unchangeable. Nuns were little more than the monks' sexual playthings, and other woman were beneath acknowledgement as human beings. B Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Sent: October 16, 2012 10/16/12 To: Pentax List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Fountains Abbey Chancel The view down the nave from (what once was) the chancel: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519776size=lg Comments always appreciated. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Quoth Bob W: It would have been licentiousness, greed, usury, fornication, gluttony and probably idolatry, otherwise Henry VIII would not have dissolved it, surely. That's right. Henry wanted to keep the licentiousness, greed, usury, fornication, and gluttony to himself. He also wanted to make sure he was the object of any idolatry. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rick Womer A front view of Fountains Abbey, near Ripon, UK: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519777size=lg The place is vast, and extremely impressive (that's a family with a stroller in the lower left corner). It was built in 1132-1147, and was a monastery until Henry VIII dissolved them in 1539. Besides the batterings of nature, various owners sold off or used the stone as building material to reduce the place to ruins. Very nice. My parents were very fond of Fountains Abbey and went there quite often - they lived nearby. They're there forever now. It's quite a comedy to carry a hidden urn into a place like that and to scatter ashes surreptitiously under the eagle eyes of the wardens. If anyone is thinking of doing such a thing, don't scatter any on the still waters of an ornamental pond. They don't sink, and the ducks and swans are more used to people scattering bread for them. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of steve harley on 2012-10-15 18:45 Rick Womer wrote A front view of Fountains Abbey, near Ripon, UK: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519777size=lg The place is vast, and extremely impressive (that's a family with a stroller in the lower left corner). i like the perspective you chose, and with your description, a very interesting place (i'd have had no idea it was so old); aye, those lucky monks! There is a new visitors centre there which has a very impressive timeline in the floor. The thing that surprised me is how much older Fountains Abbey is than Macchu Pichu, which I always thought of as quite old, with an ancient civilisation etc. It puts into perspective how old and continuous our own civilisation is (notwithstanding Disraeli's remark to Daniel O'Connell). i like the random stone in the middle of the impossibly green lawn; what about fountains? http://iati.savethechildren.org.uk/files/ppa20110401.xml It's in a very wet part of England. The last time I was in that area it had been raining very heavily for several days and the sides of all the hills were springing with vast quantities of water. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Beautiful! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Sent: October 15, 2012 10/15/12 To: Pentax List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Fountains Abbey A front view of Fountains Abbey, near Ripon, UK: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519777size=lg The place is vast, and extremely impressive (that's a family with a stroller in the lower left corner). It was built in 1132-1147, and was a monastery until Henry VIII dissolved them in 1539. Besides the batterings of nature, various owners sold off or used the stone as building material to reduce the place to ruins. (K-5, DA 16-45) A few more views coming! Comments always appreciated. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Frank! Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 6:35 PM Subject: RE: PESO - Fountains Abbey Beautiful! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Sent: October 15, 2012 10/15/12 To: Pentax List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Fountains Abbey A front view of Fountains Abbey, near Ripon, UK: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519777size=lg The place is vast, and extremely impressive (that's a family with a stroller in the lower left corner). It was built in 1132-1147, and was a monastery until Henry VIII dissolved them in 1539. Besides the batterings of nature, various owners sold off or used the stone as building material to reduce the place to ruins. (K-5, DA 16-45) A few more views coming! Comments always appreciated. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It reminds me of my trips to the UK, especially the grey stone and very green lawn. Clearly that rock has a good barrister. On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:05 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks, Frank! Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 6:35 PM Subject: RE: PESO - Fountains Abbey Beautiful! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Sent: October 15, 2012 10/15/12 To: Pentax List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Fountains Abbey A front view of Fountains Abbey, near Ripon, UK: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519777size=lg The place is vast, and extremely impressive (that's a family with a stroller in the lower left corner). It was built in 1132-1147, and was a monastery until Henry VIII dissolved them in 1539. Besides the batterings of nature, various owners sold off or used the stone as building material to reduce the place to ruins. (K-5, DA 16-45) A few more views coming! Comments always appreciated. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Lovely. I wonder what it looked like in it's heyday. On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: The view down the nave from (what once was) the chancel: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519776size=lg Comments always appreciated. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Agreed, lovely! Standing for 900 years? I guess not to many earthquakes in those parts. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Lovely. I wonder what it looked like in it's heyday. On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: The view down the nave from (what once was) the chancel: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519776size=lg Comments always appreciated. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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on 2012-10-15 18:45 Rick Womer wrote A front view of Fountains Abbey, near Ripon, UK: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16519777size=lg The place is vast, and extremely impressive (that's a family with a stroller in the lower left corner). i like the perspective you chose, and with your description, a very interesting place (i'd have had no idea it was so old); aye, those lucky monks! i like the random stone in the middle of the impossibly green lawn; what about fountains? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
