Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Eric Weir]

On Jul 14, 2010, at 3:12 AM, Cotty wrote:

> On 13/7/10, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> I don't see where in the evolution of Pentax lenses I would find "the
>> K28/3.5 version" recommended by J.C. Contrary
> 
> Out of context is always the best ;-)

Ah, you caught me. Thought I could get away with it -- that everyone would read 
it as an obvious, typo. Foolish me. 

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RE: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[J.C. O'Connell]

Regarding K series wide angles, there
is a trio of F3.5 that are all excellent.
The k24/3.5, K28/3.5, and k35/3.5

I wouldn't call K series lenses rare, but
they aint common either, most of them
were only made for 3 years before discontinued
by pentax for m versions which are more
common due to being made for about 5-6 years
before the A's came along. 

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On Jul 13, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Eric Weir wrote:

> 
> On Jul 13, 2010, at 7:09 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> 
>> The so called "K series" lenses were the first batch of
>> lenses with the K bayonet. They are marked "SMC Pentax"
>> without any suffix. When the later M series lenses came
>> out they were labelled "smc pentax -M" and so forth
>> with the -A -F -FA -DA suffix.
> 
> Ah, that clarifies it, J.C. Are such lenses still common? I don't 
> recall seeing any, but just having learned how they would be 
> identified I may simply not have noticed them.
> 
The "K series" lenses are not particularly rare, because quite a few were
made. In general, they're much better build quality than the M or A series.
Some are optically superb as well, including that K 28/3.5. I sold mine to
JCO a while back. I believe the price was around $130 in an ebay auction. I
still have a K series 85/1.8, and it's a truly superb lens. Paul


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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[paul stenquist]

On Jul 13, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Eric Weir wrote:

> 
> On Jul 13, 2010, at 7:09 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> 
>> The so called "K series" lenses were the first batch of 
>> lenses with the K bayonet. They are marked "SMC Pentax"
>> without any suffix. When the later M series lenses came
>> out they were labelled "smc pentax -M" and so forth
>> with the -A -F -FA -DA suffix.
> 
> Ah, that clarifies it, J.C. Are such lenses still common? I don't recall 
> seeing any, but just having learned how they would be identified I may simply 
> not have noticed them.
> 
The "K series" lenses are not particularly rare, because quite a few were made. 
In general, they're much better build quality than the M or A series. Some are 
optically superb as well, including that K 28/3.5. I sold mine to JCO a while 
back. I believe the price was around $130 in an ebay auction. I still have a K 
series 85/1.8, and it's a truly superb lens.
Paul


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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Cotty]

On 13/7/10, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed:

> I don't see where in the evolution of Pentax lenses I would find "the
>K28/3.5 version" recommended by J.C. Contrary

Out of context is always the best ;-)

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[P. J. Alling]

The SMC [K] lenses are sometimes lumped into the SMC-M lenses.  Even 
thought some of the M lenses such as the SMC-M 135mm f3.5 and the SMC 
135mm f3.5 are very different in size weiight and optical formula.  The 
K lenses are often quite a bit rarer than the equivalent M lenses.  The 
A lenses are also often rarer than the M version, quite asside from the 
fact that the A lenses are often more desirable for their exposure 
automation capabilities.


On 7/13/2010 9:43 PM, Eric Weir wrote:

On Jul 13, 2010, at 7:09 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

   

The so called "K series" lenses were the first batch of
lenses with the K bayonet. They are marked "SMC Pentax"
without any suffix. When the later M series lenses came
out they were labelled "smc pentax -M" and so forth
with the -A -F -FA -DA suffix.
 

Ah, that clarifies it, J.C. Are such lenses still common? I don't recall seeing 
any, but just having learned how they would be identified I may simply not have 
noticed them.

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[P. J. Alling]

When I was looking into buying one a couple of years ago, they were 
going for between $70 and $90 on ebay.  I decided not to go for one as I 
was actually using the 43mm limited as a longish normal, kind of like a 
58mm on 24x36mmm format.  f2.8 wasn't really fast enough for a normal 
lens anyway.  The 28mm f2.0 was much more appealing, but then they tend 
to go for $400-$600 depending on flavor and condition.


On 7/13/2010 3:11 PM, Eric Weir wrote:

What do you think of $170 for a copy of this lens said to be in "mint" condition? With 
shipping there's one on eBay at that price now. [It seems to have a "by now" price only. 
There doesn't seem to be a way to place bids.]

This is more than I'd like to pay, but KEH doesn't have any, and I've thought 
of getting a cheaper M version to use while I wait in a good price on an A 
version to show up.

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[David Parsons]

See J.C. O'Connell's post:

The so called "K series" lenses were the first batch of
lenses with the K bayonet. They are marked "SMC Pentax"
without any suffix.

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:

> Thanks for the informative history, Adam. However, I don't see where in the 
> evolution of Pentax lenses I would find "the K28/3.5 version" recommended by 
> J.C. Contrary to what I'd just begun assuming, there seems to be no K series 
> of lenses.
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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Adam Maas]

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>
> On Jul 13, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jul 13, 2010, at 3:41 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
>>>
 you may want to consider the K28/3.5 version, its
 reputation is better than both m or a versions.
>>>
>>> . . . .
>>>
>>> I'm a bit unclear about K as a lens series versus K as a type of lens 
>>> mount. Until this thread I assumed all -- or almost all -- Pentax lenses 
>>> were K lenses. I gather now they are distinct classifications. However, as 
>>> a reference to a lens series, I think I have yet to encounter a K lens.
>>
>> A brief history of Pentax K mount.
>>
>> . . . .
>>
>> Pentax lens lines:
>
> Thanks for the informative history, Adam. However, I don't see where in the 
> evolution of Pentax lenses I would find "the K28/3.5 version" recommended by 
> J.C. Contrary to what I'd just begun assuming, there seems to be no K series 
> of lenses.
>

Right here:

  "SMC Pentax - Original K mount lenses, often referred to as K lenses.
Many lenses are holdover designs from the SMC Takumar screwmount
lenses."

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Eric Weir]

On Jul 13, 2010, at 7:42 PM, William Robb wrote:

> I was at my local pusher's today. He has an M series 28/2.8 that I can get 
> for quite cheap, but it has no A setting.
> The proprietor told me he'd have a look among his personal collection of 
> camera dreck to see if he has an A version. If he does, he will be willing to 
> part with it.

I would be interested, if he has one -- depending on the price, of course. If 
the M is cheap enough I might even be willing to forego, for a while, the 
features I want from the A.

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Eric Weir]

On Jul 13, 2010, at 7:09 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

> The so called "K series" lenses were the first batch of 
> lenses with the K bayonet. They are marked "SMC Pentax"
> without any suffix. When the later M series lenses came
> out they were labelled "smc pentax -M" and so forth
> with the -A -F -FA -DA suffix.

Ah, that clarifies it, J.C. Are such lenses still common? I don't recall seeing 
any, but just having learned how they would be identified I may simply not have 
noticed them.

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Eric Weir]

On Jul 13, 2010, at 6:55 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

> I have a 28 AF lens i rarely if ever use. Could be for sale, as i use
> the 16-45 f4 about 90% of the time

Thanks for the offer, David. However, judging from prices of autofocus 
fixed-length lenses at KEH that's very likely out of my price range. 

What I "need" -- what I would like to have -- is the functionality associated 
with the KA mount as described in Adam's recent post, i.e., primarily control 
of aperture on the camera body.

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Eric Weir]

On Jul 13, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>> 
>> On Jul 13, 2010, at 3:41 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
>> 
>>> you may want to consider the K28/3.5 version, its
>>> reputation is better than both m or a versions.
>> 
>> . . . .
>> 
>> I'm a bit unclear about K as a lens series versus K as a type of lens mount. 
>> Until this thread I assumed all -- or almost all -- Pentax lenses were K 
>> lenses. I gather now they are distinct classifications. However, as a 
>> reference to a lens series, I think I have yet to encounter a K lens.
> 
> A brief history of Pentax K mount.
> 
> . . . .
> 
> Pentax lens lines:

Thanks for the informative history, Adam. However, I don't see where in the 
evolution of Pentax lenses I would find "the K28/3.5 version" recommended by 
J.C. Contrary to what I'd just begun assuming, there seems to be no K series of 
lenses.

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[William Robb]

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I'd say that is a lot of money for that lens, but I may not be up to date 
on what they are going for either.


Thanks, William. That's the cheapest one on eBay, and there are none at 
KEH. There are a couple 50mm As in the $200 to $250 range.


I was at my local pusher's today. He has an M series 28/2.8 that I can get 
for quite cheap, but it has no A setting.
The proprietor told me he'd have a look among his personal collection of 
camera dreck to see if he has an A version. If he does, he will be willing 
to part with it.


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RE: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[J.C. O'Connell]

The so called "K series" lenses were the first batch of 
lenses with the K bayonet. They are marked "SMC Pentax"
without any suffix. When the later M series lenses came
out they were labelled "smc pentax -M" and so forth
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On Jul 13, 2010, at 3:41 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

> you may want to consider the K28/3.5 version, its
> reputation is better than both m or a versions.

It was the fact that aperture can be controlled on the camera body in the A
series that attracted me. Perhaps I should be more concerned about quality
of images produce, but at this point I only have others' experience to draw
on regarding that.

I'm a bit unclear about K as a lens series versus K as a type of lens mount.
Until this thread I assumed all -- or almost all -- Pentax lenses were K
lenses. I gather now they are distinct classifications. However, as a
reference to a lens series, I think I have yet to encounter a K lens.


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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[David J Brooks]

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
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> On Jul 10, 2010, at 5:01 PM, Thibouille wrote:
>
>> No, incorrect.
>> Pentax-A lenses are MF, not AF lenses.
>>
>> If you need AF, you need F, FA, DFA, DA lenses.
>
> Thanks. Thought it was too good to be true. I'm looking for a manual focus, 
> but I wondered if this was an autofocus at a ridiculously low price.

I have a 28 AF lens i rarely if ever use. Could be for sale, as i use
the 16-45 f4 about 90% of the time



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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Adam Maas]

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>
> On Jul 13, 2010, at 3:41 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
>
>> you may want to consider the K28/3.5 version, its
>> reputation is better than both m or a versions.
>
> It was the fact that aperture can be controlled on the camera body in the A 
> series that attracted me. Perhaps I should be more concerned about quality of 
> images produce, but at this point I only have others' experience to draw on 
> regarding that.
>
> I'm a bit unclear about K as a lens series versus K as a type of lens mount. 
> Until this thread I assumed all -- or almost all -- Pentax lenses were K 
> lenses. I gather now they are distinct classifications. However, as a 
> reference to a lens series, I think I have yet to encounter a K lens.
>
> --
> Eric Weir

A brief history of Pentax K mount.

K -Original version of the lens mount. Mechanical aperture coupling
and full-aperture metering. Supports Aperture priority and Manual
exposure modes.

KA - Adds electronic communication of aperture info, A position on
aperture ring, support for Multi-segment metering, body control of
aperture and Program and Shutter priority exposure

KAF - Adds AF and basic communication of lens data (focal length,
current aperture on variable-aperture zooms)

KAF2 - Adds support for powerzoom, extended lens data communication
(MTF data for program lines)

KA2 - KAF2 without Powerzoom or AF support, unique to MZ-M/ZX-M camera

'crippled' KAF2 - KAF2 with mechanical meter coupling removed, no
Powerzoom support, limited or no function with non-A lenses. Early
Pentax DSLR's are this with limited function with non-A lenses (some
film bodies have no function with non-A lenses)

KAF3 - crippled KAF2 with SDM focusing support and basic powerzoom
support. All Pentax DSLR's from the K10D and K100D Super use this
mount.


Pentax lens lines:

SMC Pentax - Original K mount lenses, often referred to as K lenses.
Many lenses are holdover designs from the SMC Takumar screwmount
lenses.

SMC Pentax-M - Compact lenses introduced with the M-series SLR bodies,
replaced most of the common K lenses.

SMC Pentax-A - KA mount lenses, replaced the M series lenses.
Generally improvements optically but build quality declined

SMC Pentax-F - KAF mount lenses, original AF line.

SMC Pentax-FA - KAF2 mount lenses

SMC Pentax-FA L - FA lenses with no aperture ring. Only 3 made and two
were crap consumer lenses.

SMC Pentax-D FA - New digital-oriented lenses which are fully film
compatible. May or may not have an aperture ring, have Quick-Shift
focus

SMC Pentax-DA Digital lenses designed for DSLR-use only, will normally
vignette on film (with a couple exceptions). Have Quick-Shift Focus
(except 18-250)

SMC-Pentax-DA L - lighter, cheaper DA kit lenses. Plastic mounts and
no Quick-Shift Focus.

* - indicates pro-quality lenses. All DA* lenses are weather-sealed
but FA*, A* and M* lenses aren't.
Limited - compact high-performance primes with high build quality
WR - Weather-sealed non-* lenses, all are DA or D-FA.


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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Eric Weir]

On Jul 13, 2010, at 3:41 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

> you may want to consider the K28/3.5 version, its
> reputation is better than both m or a versions.

It was the fact that aperture can be controlled on the camera body in the A 
series that attracted me. Perhaps I should be more concerned about quality of 
images produce, but at this point I only have others' experience to draw on 
regarding that.

I'm a bit unclear about K as a lens series versus K as a type of lens mount. 
Until this thread I assumed all -- or almost all -- Pentax lenses were K 
lenses. I gather now they are distinct classifications. However, as a reference 
to a lens series, I think I have yet to encounter a K lens.

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Doug Franklin]

On 2010-07-13 16:04, Eric Weir wrote:


On Jul 13, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:


I live up at the northern end of the sprawl, just north of John's Creek.  I do, 
however, commute to /almost/ inside the Perimeter (Abernathy and Ga 400).


Good to meet you, Doug. I did venture "outside" today -- to North Fulton -- for 
physical therapy.


Cory Waters is around here, someplace, too.

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Eric Weir]

On Jul 13, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:

> I live up at the northern end of the sprawl, just north of John's Creek.  I 
> do, however, commute to /almost/ inside the Perimeter (Abernathy and Ga 400).

Good to meet you, Doug. I did venture "outside" today -- to North Fulton -- for 
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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Doug Franklin]

On 2010-07-12 22:40, Eric Weir wrote:


Fortunately I live well within the Perimeter, and try to stay there
as much as possible ... given the mindless sprawl.


:-)

I live up at the northern end of the sprawl, just north of John's Creek. 
 I do, however, commute to /almost/ inside the Perimeter (Abernathy and 
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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

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On Jul 13, 2010, at 3:39 PM, William Robb wrote:

> I'd say that is a lot of money for that lens, but I may not be up to date on 
> what they are going for either.

Thanks, William. That's the cheapest one on eBay, and there are none at KEH. 
There are a couple 50mm As in the $200 to $250 range.

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RE: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[J.C. O'Connell]

you may want to consider the K28/3.5 version, its
reputation is better than both m or a versions.

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Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 3:12 PM
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What do you think of $170 for a copy of this lens said to be in "mint"
condition? With shipping there's one on eBay at that price now. [It seems to
have a "by now" price only. There doesn't seem to be a way to place bids.]

This is more than I'd like to pay, but KEH doesn't have any, and I've
thought of getting a cheaper M version to use while I wait in a good price
on an A version to show up. 


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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[William Robb]

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What do you think of $170 for a copy of this lens said to be in "mint" 
condition? With shipping there's one on eBay at that price now. [It seems 
to have a "by now" price only. There doesn't seem to be a way to place 
bids.]




I'd say that is a lot of money for that lens, but I may not be up to date on 
what they are going for either.


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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Eric Weir]

What do you think of $170 for a copy of this lens said to be in "mint" 
condition? With shipping there's one on eBay at that price now. [It seems to 
have a "by now" price only. There doesn't seem to be a way to place bids.]

This is more than I'd like to pay, but KEH doesn't have any, and I've thought 
of getting a cheaper M version to use while I wait in a good price on an A 
version to show up. 

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Eric Weir]

On Jul 12, 2010, at 6:02 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> I know, I lived in Dunwoody for a year, I've seen single vehicle rollovers on 
> I285 achieved at the blistering speed of 12mph.  I feel for you.

Fortunately I live well within the Perimeter, and try to stay there as much as 
possible -- except, of course, when I want to get completely away from the 
city. Not exactly easy to do anymore, given the mindless sprawl.

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

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I know, I lived in Dunwoody for a year, I've seen single vehicle 
rollovers on I285 achieved at the blistering speed of 12mph.  I feel for 
you.



On 7/12/2010 1:32 PM, Eric Weir wrote:

On Jul 12, 2010, at 1:11 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

   

You should haunt www.keh.com.  They're very reputable, and they often sell more 
common, and make no mistake the A 28mm f2.8 isn't all that rare, lenses for 
much less than you can get them on ebay.  They don't have any A 28mms in stock 
right now, but they are likely to have more in the future.
 

Thanks for the heads up on prices, P.J.

I haven't exactly been "haunting" KEH, but I'll start. In addition to the 
things you say about them, I'm right here in Atlanta where they are. If I want, I can 
save on shipping costs, though driving in Atlanta traffic can make shipping worth the 
cost.

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

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On Jul 12, 2010, at 1:11 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> You should haunt www.keh.com.  They're very reputable, and they often sell 
> more common, and make no mistake the A 28mm f2.8 isn't all that rare, lenses 
> for much less than you can get them on ebay.  They don't have any A 28mms in 
> stock right now, but they are likely to have more in the future.

Thanks for the heads up on prices, P.J. 

I haven't exactly been "haunting" KEH, but I'll start. In addition to the 
things you say about them, I'm right here in Atlanta where they are. If I want, 
I can save on shipping costs, though driving in Atlanta traffic can make 
shipping worth the cost.  

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[P. J. Alling]

You should haunt www.keh.com.  They're very reputable, and they often 
sell more common, and make no mistake the A 28mm f2.8 isn't all that 
rare, lenses for much less than you can get them on ebay.  They don't 
have any A 28mms in stock right now, but they are likely to have more in 
the future.


On 7/12/2010 12:32 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

On Jul 12, 2010, at 11:14, Eric Weir wrote:

   

I thought I sent a message to this effect to the list earlier, but it seems not.

Anyway, I was not able to be at home in the final hours of bidding on this lens 
on eBay. I left a maximum bid, but the other guy got it for $1.00 more-- $81. 
Apparently that was a steal, as the remaining lenses of this type on eBay are 
all in the $160 to $220 range. Is this what I should expect to pay?

 

I got mine off of EBay about 3 years ago for about $90.  $160-220 seems steep.

I've seen them on the PentaxForums marketplace for the "around $100" range as well.   
I've been on the hunt for an AF version of that same lens so that I'll have a small/light 
"party camera" with the K7.  Those tend to be about twice as expensive (around $200) if 
you can find them at all.

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

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On Jul 12, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

> I got mine off of EBay about 3 years ago for about $90.  $160-220 seems steep.
> 
> I've seen them on the PentaxForums marketplace for the "around $100" range as 
> well.

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

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On Jul 12, 2010, at 11:14, Eric Weir wrote:

> 
> I thought I sent a message to this effect to the list earlier, but it seems 
> not.
> 
> Anyway, I was not able to be at home in the final hours of bidding on this 
> lens on eBay. I left a maximum bid, but the other guy got it for $1.00 more-- 
> $81. Apparently that was a steal, as the remaining lenses of this type on 
> eBay are all in the $160 to $220 range. Is this what I should expect to pay?
> 

I got mine off of EBay about 3 years ago for about $90.  $160-220 seems steep.

I've seen them on the PentaxForums marketplace for the "around $100" range as 
well.   I've been on the hunt for an AF version of that same lens so that I'll 
have a small/light "party camera" with the K7.  Those tend to be about twice as 
expensive (around $200) if you can find them at all.

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Eric Weir]

I thought I sent a message to this effect to the list earlier, but it seems not.

Anyway, I was not able to be at home in the final hours of bidding on this lens 
on eBay. I left a maximum bid, but the other guy got it for $1.00 more-- $81. 
Apparently that was a steal, as the remaining lenses of this type on eBay are 
all in the $160 to $220 range. Is this what I should expect to pay?

While I'm at it, did any other manufacturers produce lenses that are equivalent 
to the A series?

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[paul stenquist]

On Jul 10, 2010, at 6:43 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

> don't forget the "K" series lenses which
> have some of the finest lenses they ever
> made and quality control was superb back
> in the day. K>M>A>F>FA>DFA>DA
> 
True. The K28/3.5 is one of the sharpest lenses I ever owned. I sold it to JCO, 
but I wouldn't be surprised if he has more than one.
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> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 6:29 PM
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> Subject: Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8
> 
> 
> Eric,
> There are more A series lenses, but some are a little rare. Pentax made a
> ton of M series lenses for the MX, ME, ME Super, etc. The A series went with
> the Super Program and Program Plus cameras. They are desirable as the
> apertures are the same as measured on the latest cameras. The A 28/2.8, A
> 50/1.7, A 50/1.4 are all pretty common on ebay and not too pricey. There are
> A 20/2.8, A*85/1.4, A 100/2.8, A 200/4, A*300/4, A 400/5.6. They are nice
> lenses, but get more expensive. Pentax lens history by series is M, A, F,
> FA, DFA, DA. The M's and A's are manual focus. The F's and FA's are the
> start of autofocus. The DFA's and DA's are especially for the latest
> autofocus digitals. (The DFA's and DA's lose the aperture ring and aperture
> is only controled thru the camera.) Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> 
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RE: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[J.C. O'Connell]

don't forget the "K" series lenses which
have some of the finest lenses they ever
made and quality control was superb back
in the day. K>M>A>F>FA>DFA>DA

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Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 6:29 PM
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Subject: Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8


Eric,
There are more A series lenses, but some are a little rare. Pentax made a
ton of M series lenses for the MX, ME, ME Super, etc. The A series went with
the Super Program and Program Plus cameras. They are desirable as the
apertures are the same as measured on the latest cameras. The A 28/2.8, A
50/1.7, A 50/1.4 are all pretty common on ebay and not too pricey. There are
A 20/2.8, A*85/1.4, A 100/2.8, A 200/4, A*300/4, A 400/5.6. They are nice
lenses, but get more expensive. Pentax lens history by series is M, A, F,
FA, DFA, DA. The M's and A's are manual focus. The F's and FA's are the
start of autofocus. The DFA's and DA's are especially for the latest
autofocus digitals. (The DFA's and DA's lose the aperture ring and aperture
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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Eric Weir]

On Jul 10, 2010, at 6:33 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> Have fun wasting a few hours.

I've doing too much of that lately.

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Eric Weir]

On Jul 10, 2010, at 6:28 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

> There are more A series lenses, but some are a little rare.
> Pentax made a ton of M series lenses for the MX, ME, ME Super, etc.
> The A series went with the Super Program and Program Plus cameras.
> They are desirable as the apertures are the same as measured on the
> latest cameras.
> The A 28/2.8, A 50/1.7, A 50/1.4 are all pretty common on ebay and not
> too pricey.
> There are A 20/2.8, A*85/1.4, A 100/2.8, A 200/4, A*300/4, A 400/5.6.
> They are nice lenses, but get more expensive.
> Pentax lens history by series is M, A, F, FA, DFA, DA.
> The M's and A's are manual focus.
> The F's and FA's are the start of autofocus.
> The DFA's and DA's are especially for the latest autofocus digitals.
> (The DFA's and DA's lose the aperture ring and aperture is only
> controled thru the camera.)

Thanks, Bob. I think I can keep all that in mind -- at least roughly enough to 
be helpful.

I've got a couple decent Ms, but now I'll be on the lookout for As.

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[P. J. Alling]

On 7/10/2010 5:35 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 17:22 -0400, "Eric Weir"
wrote:
   

On Jul 10, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 

They have the linear-action iris actuator and a special position on
the aperture ring allowing a Pentax body with on-body aperture control
(all the DSLRs) to set the aperture value using the body controls.
They're fully compatible with the DSLR bodies with respect to all
auto-exposure modes.

The SMC Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8 lens is a wonderful little lens. It's
small and light, slightly soft until stopped down to f/4 but has
wonderful bokeh. It was the first Pentax lens I used when I purchased
the *ist DS body in 2004.
   

Hmm. Now it's sounding more interesting. I just purchased a *ist DS. May
not be able to tell the difference between soft and sharp, but at this
point would prefer sharp.

Is this one in a series of lenses, i.e., are their Pentax-As o other
focal lengths?
 
   


It actually only covers medium format adapters that allow those lenses 
to work on a K Mount body.  The discussion of K mount electronics from A 
onward is applicable, but you have to make allowances for the somewhat 
different mechanical connections. .




Yes.  You should check out Bojidar Dimitrov's Pentax K-Mount Page.  It
has all the information you can possibly need about Pentax Kmount
cameras, lenses and accessories. It covers film (35 mm and medium
format) and digital camera systems.

http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/


Cheers

Brian

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

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On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:

> May not be able to tell the difference between soft and sharp, but at this 
> point would prefer sharp.

Mark!

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[P. J. Alling]

The online bible, Everything you thought you needed to know about Pentax 
K mount camera bodies and lenses but didn't realized.  Have fun wasting 
a few hours.


http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/

On 7/10/2010 5:22 PM, Eric Weir wrote:

On Jul 10, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

   

They have the linear-action iris actuator and a special position on
the aperture ring allowing a Pentax body with on-body aperture control
(all the DSLRs) to set the aperture value using the body controls.
They're fully compatible with the DSLR bodies with respect to all
auto-exposure modes.

The SMC Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8 lens is a wonderful little lens. It's
small and light, slightly soft until stopped down to f/4 but has
wonderful bokeh. It was the first Pentax lens I used when I purchased
the *ist DS body in 2004.
 

Hmm. Now it's sounding more interesting. I just purchased a *ist DS. May not be 
able to tell the difference between soft and sharp, but at this point would 
prefer sharp.

Is this one in a series of lenses, i.e., are their Pentax-As o other focal 
lengths?

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Bob Sullivan]

Eric,
There are more A series lenses, but some are a little rare.
Pentax made a ton of M series lenses for the MX, ME, ME Super, etc.
The A series went with the Super Program and Program Plus cameras.
They are desirable as the apertures are the same as measured on the
latest cameras.
The A 28/2.8, A 50/1.7, A 50/1.4 are all pretty common on ebay and not
too pricey.
There are A 20/2.8, A*85/1.4, A 100/2.8, A 200/4, A*300/4, A 400/5.6.
They are nice lenses, but get more expensive.
Pentax lens history by series is M, A, F, FA, DFA, DA.
The M's and A's are manual focus.
The F's and FA's are the start of autofocus.
The DFA's and DA's are especially for the latest autofocus digitals.
(The DFA's and DA's lose the aperture ring and aperture is only
controled thru the camera.)
Regards,  Bob S.


On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>
> On Jul 10, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>
>> They have the linear-action iris actuator and a special position on
>> the aperture ring allowing a Pentax body with on-body aperture control
>> (all the DSLRs) to set the aperture value using the body controls.
>> They're fully compatible with the DSLR bodies with respect to all
>> auto-exposure modes.
>>
>> The SMC Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8 lens is a wonderful little lens. It's
>> small and light, slightly soft until stopped down to f/4 but has
>> wonderful bokeh. It was the first Pentax lens I used when I purchased
>> the *ist DS body in 2004.
>
> Hmm. Now it's sounding more interesting. I just purchased a *ist DS. May not 
> be able to tell the difference between soft and sharp, but at this point 
> would prefer sharp.
>
> Is this one in a series of lenses, i.e., are their Pentax-As o other focal 
> lengths?
>
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>
>
>
>
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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Eric Weir]

On Jul 10, 2010, at 6:02 PM, Cotty wrote:

> Eric, others have answered your question, but this website is worth
> noting - you will find it invaluable in your Pentax travels!
> 
> 

Yes, I am starting to do so. 

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Eric Weir]

On Jul 10, 2010, at 5:35 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 17:22 -0400, "Eric Weir" 
> wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> Is this one in a series of lenses, i.e., are their Pentax-As o other
>> focal lengths?
> 
> Yes.  You should check out Bojidar Dimitrov's Pentax K-Mount Page.  It
> has all the information you can possibly need about Pentax Kmount
> cameras, lenses and accessories. It covers film (35 mm and medium
> format) and digital camera systems.

Thanks, Brian. Done.

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Cotty]

On 10/7/10, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>Really displaying my ignorance here again, but am I correct in assuming
>this is an autofocus lens?

Eric, others have answered your question, but this website is worth
noting - you will find it invaluable in your Pentax travels!



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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Brian Walters]

On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 17:22 -0400, "Eric Weir" 
wrote:
> 
> On Jul 10, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> 
> > They have the linear-action iris actuator and a special position on
> > the aperture ring allowing a Pentax body with on-body aperture control
> > (all the DSLRs) to set the aperture value using the body controls.
> > They're fully compatible with the DSLR bodies with respect to all
> > auto-exposure modes.
> > 
> > The SMC Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8 lens is a wonderful little lens. It's
> > small and light, slightly soft until stopped down to f/4 but has
> > wonderful bokeh. It was the first Pentax lens I used when I purchased
> > the *ist DS body in 2004.
> 
> Hmm. Now it's sounding more interesting. I just purchased a *ist DS. May
> not be able to tell the difference between soft and sharp, but at this
> point would prefer sharp. 
> 
> Is this one in a series of lenses, i.e., are their Pentax-As o other
> focal lengths?



Yes.  You should check out Bojidar Dimitrov's Pentax K-Mount Page.  It
has all the information you can possibly need about Pentax Kmount
cameras, lenses and accessories. It covers film (35 mm and medium
format) and digital camera systems.

http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/


Cheers

Brian

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Eric Weir]

On Jul 10, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> They have the linear-action iris actuator and a special position on
> the aperture ring allowing a Pentax body with on-body aperture control
> (all the DSLRs) to set the aperture value using the body controls.
> They're fully compatible with the DSLR bodies with respect to all
> auto-exposure modes.
> 
> The SMC Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8 lens is a wonderful little lens. It's
> small and light, slightly soft until stopped down to f/4 but has
> wonderful bokeh. It was the first Pentax lens I used when I purchased
> the *ist DS body in 2004.

Hmm. Now it's sounding more interesting. I just purchased a *ist DS. May not be 
able to tell the difference between soft and sharp, but at this point would 
prefer sharp. 

Is this one in a series of lenses, i.e., are their Pentax-As o other focal 
lengths?

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Decatur, GA  USA
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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Eric Weir]

On Jul 10, 2010, at 5:01 PM, Thibouille wrote:

> No, incorrect.
> Pentax-A lenses are MF, not AF lenses.
> 
> If you need AF, you need F, FA, DFA, DA lenses.

Thanks. Thought it was too good to be true. I'm looking for a manual focus, but 
I wondered if this was an autofocus at a ridiculously low price. 

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

The "Pentax-A" series lenses are all manual focus.

They have the linear-action iris actuator and a special position on
the aperture ring allowing a Pentax body with on-body aperture control
(all the DSLRs) to set the aperture value using the body controls.
They're fully compatible with the DSLR bodies with respect to all
auto-exposure modes.

The SMC Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8 lens is a wonderful little lens. It's
small and light, slightly soft until stopped down to f/4 but has
wonderful bokeh. It was the first Pentax lens I used when I purchased
the *ist DS body in 2004.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>
> Really displaying my ignorance here again, but am I correct in assuming this 
> is an autofocus lens?

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

[Thibouille]

No, incorrect.
Pentax-A lenses are MF, not AF lenses.

If you need AF, you need F, FA, DFA, DA lenses.


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