RE: Pentax Spotmatic F production figures??

2002-02-06 Thread Pål Audun Jensen

JCO wrote:


>Too bad they wont service a single one of them.


Really? I received a list from Pentax with service prices on all cameras 
from the Asahiflex and onwards + lenses. I guess that parts can be hard to 
find for older equipment but as far as I can tell they still service them 
around here at least.

Pål
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Re: Pentax Spotmatic F production figures??

2002-02-06 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

Wednesday, February 06, 2002, 3:49:34 AM, Paul wrote:
PMP> Of course then there is the plain matte screen - got that one too and like it the 
best of all.  It is a little hard to use in low
PMP> light though...
PMP> ppro

As much as I like old cameras much more than new ones, the new ones
(some of them, though. Not Nikons! F80 sucks finder-wise) have much
better focusing screens.

Here is a post on camera-fix group I think you might find
interesting...

The problem is IIRC that Spotmatics use different arrangement, where there
is a (**)separate groundglass with aid and separate fresnel/field lens
which brightens the corners, while newer M series (and perhaps some K
too) use (*)one groundglass with pressed-on fresnel screen, so the former
is (**)two-piece, the latter (*)one-piece unit. But according to the guy
there, it works...:

>> I fitted a diagonal split image screen for one of the Chinese K1000
>> copies, straight into a Spotmatic, I took the 2 screens[**] out, and
>> replaced it with the single[*] screen.
>> From memory I think I put a little bit more of bend in the brass 
>> spring which holds the screen against the base of the tray it sits 
>> in,
>> apart from that no other changes were made.
>> I think the screens would be about $8 plus postage.
>> Colin.
> I forgot to mention, I checked the focus with a focus checker, at the
> film plane after I fitted the new screen, and it was O.K.
> Colin.

  * ... see above
  ** ... see above

I guess I could provide his mail here, but I better ask first :) So if
interested, mail me offlist.
  
Good light,
   Frantisek Vlcek
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RE: Pentax Spotmatic F production figures??

2002-02-06 Thread J. C. O'Connell

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> JCO wrote:
>
>
> >No wonder there are so many near mint examples on ebay.
>
>
> No wonder there are many screw-mount lenses as well. Pentax made close to
> 7,5 million screw-mount lenses.
>
> Pål

Too bad they wont service a single one of them.
JCO
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Re: Pentax Spotmatic F production figures??

2002-02-06 Thread Pål Audun Jensen

JCO wrote:


>No wonder there are so many near mint examples on ebay.


No wonder there are many screw-mount lenses as well. Pentax made close to 
7,5 million screw-mount lenses.

Pål
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RE: Pentax Spotmatic F production figures??

2002-02-06 Thread J. C. O'Connell

> Brendan wrote:
>
>
> >This got me thinking: Does any one know approx. how many of the
> Spotmatic
> >F's were
> >produced? Also, of these, how many were black body versions?
>
>
> If my memory serves me right, the Spotmatics (all of them I
> presume) sold 2
> million.
> (Theres a slight chance I mix it up with the K1000 sales figures - the
> K1000 sold 3 million)
>
> Pål

No wonder there are so many near mint examples on ebay.
IMHO, a near mint to mint chrome spotmatic for $100-150 has
got to be one of the greatest photographic values
out there.  BTW, I just scored another MINT black one
off ebay for $275. What a jewel. The black ones are so
pretty when theyre mint with no brassing...I wonder how
much it would cost to make a spotmatic today in Japan
JCO
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RE: Pentax Spotmatic F production figures??

2002-02-05 Thread Paul M. Provencher

Of course then there is the plain matte screen - got that one too and like it the best 
of all.  It is a little hard to use in low
light though...

ppro


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> Ppro...
>
> I know EXACTLY waht you mean!
>
> It's such a toss up; IMHO, split image is easier with bright subjects and
> well defined edges and microprism works better with softer and more dimly lit
> subjects.
>
> I won't do anything until I test out the factory screen. Maybe I'll like it
> well enough and won't change it out.
>
> Brendan
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Re: Pentax Spotmatic F production figures??

2002-02-05 Thread Bmacrae

Ppro...

I know EXACTLY waht you mean!

It's such a toss up; IMHO, split image is easier with bright subjects and 
well defined edges and microprism works better with softer and more dimly lit 
subjects.

I won't do anything until I test out the factory screen. Maybe I'll like it 
well enough and won't change it out.

Brendan
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Re: Pentax Spotmatic F production figures??

2002-02-05 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Hi Brendan,

I've never shot any color through the Takumar lenses, and I always use
the deepest lens hoods possible, so flare's never been a consideration.

Yeah, I do like some of the older cameras. Anything newer than an LX is
too modern for me, and these days I find myself moving further back in
time.  The last roll I shot was with a 67yo Leica ... it needs a lot of
work but I was amazed at how smooth, solid, and quiet it still is.

The SP Fs here don't have the split image screen, although it might be a
nice upgrade.
Don't worry, be happy ... the meters in those old cameras weren't noted
for great accuracy, IAC.  And so what if the meter's off.  You'll be
running a test roll or two through that puppy to get it calibrated to
your style and needs anyway - right?  Why bother to use the meter at
all?  Take one more step back and go meterless, or use a hand-held
meter.

You're located down in San Mateo, aren't you?  We ought to get together
some time.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I can't wait to take mine out, should be 
> here tomorrow. Seems you can't go wrong 
> with a all manual, metal bodied camera!
> 
> Tell me, have you noticed any difference 
> between the Super-Multi-Coated Taks and 
> the later SMC tak's color-wise or flare-wise?
> 
> Also, I understand you can get the split-image 
> conversion done to these babies, have you done 
> this or know someone who has? I would worry that 
> the metering would be off if the screen is brighter. 
> I know Camera Repair Service says they adjust the
> meter as part of the conversion but that worries me...

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Re: Pentax Spotmatic F production figures??

2002-02-05 Thread Bmacrae

Thanks Shel...

I somehow thought you'd be the guy with those figures.

I can't wait to take mine out, should be here tomorrow. Seems you can't go wrong with 
a all manual, metal bodied camera! 

Tell me, have you noticed any difference between the Super-Multi-Coated Taks and the 
later SMC tak's color-wise or flare-wise?

Also, I understand you can get the split-image conversion done to these babies, have 
you done this or know someone who has? I would worry that the metering would be off if 
the screen is brighter. I know Camera Repair Service says they adjust the meter as 
part of the conversion but that worries me...

Brendan
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Re: Pentax Spotmatic F production figures??

2002-02-05 Thread Shel Belinkoff

I just looked it up in Gerjan's book - the number he gives is 603,885,
but the figure isn't broken down between chrome and black.

BTW, I've got a black one and I once thought about selling it ... but
it's still here .  It's nicely brassed, and mechanically perfect, and
it sure gives a lot of pleasure those times that I use it, especially
with the Super-Multi-Coated Takumar lenses. It's later edition from what
I understand is the earlier batch, with a SN over 4,910,000.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
> Does any one know approx. how many of the 
> Spotmatic F's were produced? Also, of these, 
> how many were black body versions?
> 
> I have seen lots of black spots but few black spot f's.
> 
> Perhaps it's because folks covet them so much that 
> they're rarely up for sale?

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re: Pentax Spotmatic F production figures??

2002-02-05 Thread Bmacrae

Hey guys,

I've enjoyed a lot of the recent threads about Spotties on the list. Some good info 
and commentary on the lenses.

This got me thinking: Does any one know approx. how many of the Spotmatic F's were 
produced? Also, of these, how many were black body versions?

I have seen lots of black spots but few black spot f's. 

Perhaps it's because folks covet them so much that they're rarely up for sale?

Regards,
Brendan "recently Spottie enabled" MacRae 
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