Re: Rather more than the usual replacement roll...
What legal agreement? A disclaimer is not a legal agreement unless it is signed by the person who it affects. To make that kind of thing clear, say you have an open abandoned well in your front yard. So you put up a sign, Not responsible for anyone falling in the well. Do you think you would be protected because of the sign? What a disclaimer does is keep the Not Too Smart Customer from seeking his legal rights, luckily for most retailers the NTSC is the norm. OTOH, the amount involved almost has to be enough to interest an attorney, or you have to be willing to go to small claims court. What the court would award depends on how hard it would be to reshoot he photos. If they were snaps of your kids playing in the sandbox, your probably would only get a new roll of film. If they were snapshots from a once in a lifetime around the world tour, the processor better have good insurance. OTOH, if I were the mediator, and a Scientist claimed the DRUG STORE messed up his important photos of his expedition to Antarctica (as mentioned by someone in this thread), I would probably rule that he was a victim of his own stupidity. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh yay!! Now the courts are ignoring the legal agreement between the customer and the processor. They must have figured they would lose in court, or they wouldn't have settled out of court.
Re: Rather more than the usual replacement roll...
The settlement took place in the UK, not the US. Your legal ignorance is now big enough to span oceans. BR T Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would probably rule __ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455
Re: Rather more than the usual replacement roll...
T Rittenhouse wrote: What legal agreement? A disclaimer is not a legal agreement unless it is signed by the person who it affects. To make that kind of thing clear, say you have an open abandoned well in your front yard. So you put up a sign, Not responsible for anyone falling in the well. Do you think you would be protected because of the sign? I've seen some military facilities with signs basically saying that you'll get shot if you survive escalating the electrified fences. I never heard of anyone suing them. cheers, caveman
Re: Rather more than the usual replacement roll...
Two reasons, well three really, Countries claim Sovereign immunity, (one of the bad precedents set forth by the United States Constitution was to give the Government of a Republic the same immunity claimed by a King, a right claimed by all Republics now, but I digress), and you're not allowed to Sue the Government with without the Governments permission. Military organizations are outside the civil law where they hold sway, on military reservations, if they catch you they'll usually turn you over to civilian authorities but they don't have to. If you're dead you have a very hard time contacting a lawyer to file a lawsuit for you. At 12:48 PM 6/11/03 -0400, you wrote: T Rittenhouse wrote: What legal agreement? A disclaimer is not a legal agreement unless it is signed by the person who it affects. To make that kind of thing clear, say you have an open abandoned well in your front yard. So you put up a sign, Not responsible for anyone falling in the well. Do you think you would be protected because of the sign? I've seen some military facilities with signs basically saying that you'll get shot if you survive escalating the electrified fences. I never heard of anyone suing them. cheers, caveman Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. --Groucho Marx
Re: Rather more than the usual replacement roll...
I apologize to the list for this post it should have been sent privately, or not at all. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: T Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:35 PM Subject: Re: Rather more than the usual replacement roll... Hey man, I just put up a sign that says you owe me a thousand dollars. I bet it won't do me any good over there either. But, then you better send the money just in case. Know what, boy? Sometimes I am wrong, sometimes I lose my cool, but I am not an ASS all the time like you. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:44 PM Subject: Re: Rather more than the usual replacement roll... The settlement took place in the UK, not the US. Your legal ignorance is now big enough to span oceans. BR T Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would probably rule __ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455
RE: Rather more than the usual replacement roll...
Glenn wrote: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=817ncid=757e=10 u=/ap/20030609/ap_on_fe_st/britain_photo_damages Somebody got an $8000 settlement for a lost vacation film. I caught the last of this on the local news, he said that he would not be cashing the cheque until they had a final look for the film (and the amount offered was undisclosed on BBC TV) and it was a Pentax camera he was using, but I didn't see the model - did anyone else? Malcolm
Re: Rather more than the usual replacement roll...
Imagine what he could have got if it had been a professional assignment he'd been doing? But then he might have had insurance. Yes? No? Is there insurance available for such losses? Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:44 AM Subject: RE: Rather more than the usual replacement roll... Glenn wrote: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=817ncid=757e=10 u=/ap/20030609/ap_on_fe_st/britain_photo_damages Somebody got an $8000 settlement for a lost vacation film. I caught the last of this on the local news, he said that he would not be cashing the cheque until they had a final look for the film (and the amount offered was undisclosed on BBC TV) and it was a Pentax camera he was using, but I didn't see the model - did anyone else? Malcolm
Re: Rather more than the usual replacement roll...
- Original Message - Subject: OT: Rather more than the usual replacement roll... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=817ncid=757e=10u=/ap /20030609/ap_on_fe_st/britain_photo_damages Somebody got an $8000 settlement for a lost vacation film. Oh yay!! Now the courts are ignoring the legal agreement between the customer and the processor. They must have figured they would lose in court, or they wouldn't have settled out of court. William Robb
Re: Rather more than the usual replacement roll...
Interesting, because these kinds of settlements usually have a non-disclosure agreement attached. In other words, take the money and shut up. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 9:09 AM Subject: Re: Rather more than the usual replacement roll... The customer was, I would guess, rather articulate, and refused to accept any of their lesser offers. Good on him! Not the first time Kodak in the UK have been pubicly humiliated. Kind regards Peter
Re: Rather more than the usual replacement roll...
Greetings all, After a spell in the Mail Archive wilderness, I have decided to subscribe normally and see what happens - I'll probably get fired for overloading our mail server. T Rittenhouse wrote: Interesting, because these kinds of settlements usually have a non-disclosure agreement attached. In other words, take the money and shut up. On topic, I think there is a non-disclosure clause in this instance. The _amount_ is only guesstimated The last one of these I remember in the UK was an academic who had sent his pictures from and Antarctic expedition to the local pharmacy for processing. He wanted £30,000 to remount the expedition. Guess what he got? mike
RE: Rather more than the usual replacement roll...
-Original Message- From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 June 2003 15:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rather more than the usual replacement roll... Greetings all, After a spell in the Mail Archive wilderness, I have decided to subscribe normally and see what happens - I'll probably get fired for overloading our mail server. T Rittenhouse wrote: Interesting, because these kinds of settlements usually have a non-disclosure agreement attached. In other words, take the money and shut up. On topic, I think there is a non-disclosure clause in this instance. The _amount_ is only guesstimated The last one of these I remember in the UK was an academic who had sent his pictures from and Antarctic expedition to the local pharmacy for processing. He wanted £30,000 to remount the expedition. Guess what he got? mike The cost of the film
RE: Rather more than the usual replacement roll...
From: mike wilson Sent: 10 June 2003 15:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rather more than the usual replacement roll... Greetings all, After a spell in the Mail Archive wilderness, I have decided to subscribe normally and see what happens - I'll probably get fired for overloading our mail server. Well the archive is completely up the creek so the only subject you have missed is the never ending bickering with regard to the crippled mount on the Asterix (both varieties). The general gist is, why won't my twenty year old lens work on either. The analogue one is crippled but who knows about the digital. Which way is the wind blowing today Ziggy
RE: Rather more than the usual replacement roll...
So much for your paying attention. We all seem to know why. (Except for the few who keep holding out for some technological marvel to make it right). The argument is about if it's a good idea. At 05:00 PM 6/10/03 +0100, you wrote: From: mike wilson Sent: 10 June 2003 15:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rather more than the usual replacement roll... Greetings all, After a spell in the Mail Archive wilderness, I have decided to subscribe normally and see what happens - I'll probably get fired for overloading our mail server. Well the archive is completely up the creek so the only subject you have missed is the never ending bickering with regard to the crippled mount on the Asterix (both varieties). The general gist is, why won't my twenty year old lens work on either. The analogue one is crippled but who knows about the digital. Which way is the wind blowing today Ziggy Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. --Groucho Marx
RE: Rather more than the usual replacement roll...
-Original Message- From: Peter Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 June 2003 17:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Rather more than the usual replacement roll... So much for your paying attention. We all seem to know why. (Except for the few who keep holding out for some technological marvel to make it right). The argument is about if it's a good idea. Answer What argument? Whether you like crutches or you don't? It is as you quote, Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read, just about sums up all the ramblings here for the past two weeks.. /Answer At 05:00 PM 6/10/03 +0100, you wrote: From: mike wilson Sent: 10 June 2003 15:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rather more than the usual replacement roll... Greetings all, After a spell in the Mail Archive wilderness, I have decided to subscribe normally and see what happens - I'll probably get fired for overloading our mail server. Well the archive is completely up the creek so the only subject you have missed is the never ending bickering with regard to the crippled mount on the Asterix (both varieties). The general gist is, why won't my twenty year old lens work on either. The analogue one is crippled but who knows about the digital. Which way is the wind blowing today Ziggy Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. --Groucho Marx
