RE: "S" in MZ-S

2001-11-29 Thread Mick Maguire

but the point was about "standing" or something acronymicly. the X in LX MX
etc is a good example of my point, whilst it may mean "top of the series" or
suchlike, I haven't seen a claim that it stands for something. I guess it's
the same with the S too.

Regards,
/\/\ick...


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Mick Maguire wrote:
> Seriously I think that the epithets given to most products these days are
> purely designed by marketing to tap into consumer perceptions: like adding
> GTI or GTE or X to a car name, it's not so much what it stands for (eg.
GTI
> was supposed to mean Grand Tourer Injection), as I doubt most people are
> bothered, it's more how it feels. An S somehow feels more prestigious than
a
> number in the minds of the consumer... therefore to come back to my
original
> speculation, I would say "Superfluous"

In the Pentax line, a final "X" has meant something.  KX, MX, LX.
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Re: "S" in MZ-S

2001-11-29 Thread Lon Williamson

Mick Maguire wrote:
> Seriously I think that the epithets given to most products these days are
> purely designed by marketing to tap into consumer perceptions: like adding
> GTI or GTE or X to a car name, it's not so much what it stands for (eg. GTI
> was supposed to mean Grand Tourer Injection), as I doubt most people are
> bothered, it's more how it feels. An S somehow feels more prestigious than a
> number in the minds of the consumer... therefore to come back to my original
> speculation, I would say "Superfluous"

In the Pentax line, a final "X" has meant something.  KX, MX, LX.
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Re: OT RE: "S" in MZ-S

2001-11-27 Thread Anthony Farr

So true :)

Regards,
Anthony Farr

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From: "Mick Maguire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> You are right in thinking it came from "Morris Garages" (the Morris
> dealership that started to produce their own Morris based sports
cars), but
> Cecil Kimber (the managing director until the early 1940's and founder
of
> M.G.) strongly refuted that the initials "stood for" anything. His
point was
> that it didn't matter where the initials came from or what they
originally
> meant but they were their own brand and name, in their own right by
the time
> he made the statement, their origin being of little consequence. In
his
> opinion they no longer had any acronymic meaning. I  feel this is true
with
> almost all initials on any product now including the MZ-S.
>
> Regards,
> /\/\ick...
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OT RE: "S" in MZ-S

2001-11-27 Thread Mick Maguire

You are right in thinking it came from "Morris Garages" (the Morris
dealership that started to produce their own Morris based sports cars), but
Cecil Kimber (the managing director until the early 1940's and founder of
M.G.) strongly refuted that the initials "stood for" anything. His point was
that it didn't matter where the initials came from or what they originally
meant but they were their own brand and name, in their own right by the time
he made the statement, their origin being of little consequence. In his
opinion they no longer had any acronymic meaning. I  feel this is true with
almost all initials on any product now including the MZ-S.

Regards,
/\/\ick...



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Morris Garage

Regards,
Anthony Farr

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(snip)

> As Cecil Kimber once famously said about the M.G. car
> brand "the initials M.G. do not stand for anything, they stand for
> themselves".
>
> Regards,
> /\/\ick...
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Re: "S" in MZ-S

2001-11-26 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

It's a thinly disguised dollar sign!

Chris Brogden wrote:

> On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 25/11/01 11:25:38 GMT Standard Time,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > << Perhaps it means:
> >  1. Standard
> >  2. Small
> >  3. Super
> >
> >  Anybody really know? Just curious. >>
> > 4. Sexy
>
> 5. Sassy
>
> chris
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Re: "S" in MZ-S

2001-11-26 Thread Chris Brogden

On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In a message dated 25/11/01 11:25:38 GMT Standard Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> << Perhaps it means:
>  1. Standard
>  2. Small
>  3. Super
>  
>  Anybody really know? Just curious. >>
> 4. Sexy

5. Sassy

chris
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RE: "S" in MZ-S

2001-11-26 Thread Mick Maguire

can I proffer "superfluous"? ;o)

Seriously I think that the epithets given to most products these days are
purely designed by marketing to tap into consumer perceptions: like adding
GTI or GTE or X to a car name, it's not so much what it stands for (eg. GTI
was supposed to mean Grand Tourer Injection), as I doubt most people are
bothered, it's more how it feels. An S somehow feels more prestigious than a
number in the minds of the consumer... therefore to come back to my original
speculation, I would say "Superfluous"

Has anybody thought, perhaps, what the MZ might stand for? I would venture
it's very little.  As Cecil Kimber once famously said about the M.G. car
brand "the initials M.G. do not stand for anything, they stand for
themselves".

Regards,
/\/\ick...

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Re: "S" in MZ-S

2001-11-26 Thread Camdir

In a message dated 25/11/01 11:25:38 GMT Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Perhaps it means:
 1. Standard
 2. Small
 3. Super
 
 Anybody really know? Just curious. >>
4. Sexy

Kind regards

Peter
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