Re: SMC 28mm lens query

2006-02-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
Although it's not fast, the K28/3.5 is very good. Extremely sharp  
throughout the range. The Vivitar Series 1 28/1.9 is a real prize,  
although hard to find.

Paul
On Feb 3, 2006, at 9:19 AM, Cory Papenfuss wrote:

	Hey all.  The recent query on the Vivitar made me remember that I'm  
not too satisfied with my Kiron/Vivitar 28mm f/2.  I've been looking  
(i.e. ebaying) for an inexpensive SMC 28mm.  As much as I'd like the  
f/2, it's too expensive and difficult to find.  It appears that there  
are a few versions of the f/2.8.


	Comments on which one to go for?  I guess I'm leaning towards an M  
based on price.  Version2 if I can find one?


-Cory

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Re: SMC 28mm lens query

2006-02-03 Thread Cory Papenfuss

On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Although it's not fast, the K28/3.5 is very good. Extremely sharp throughout 
the range. The Vivitar Series 1 28/1.9 is a real prize, although hard to 
find.

Paul


	I was looking at that when I got the f/2 Vivitar.  I found 
conflicting reviews on it... particularly distortion.  I read that the 
Kiron-made f/2 was a sleeper.  I guess it is... just disappointing wide 
open.


	I've heard the [K|M]28/3.5 is sharper than the 2.8?  I really wish 
the 50/1.4 could be fully utilized on the APS-sized sensor.  Great lens, 
but just too long for lots of my shots.


-Cory

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Re: SMC 28mm lens query

2006-02-03 Thread Fred
 I've heard the [K|M]28/3.5 is sharper than the 2.8?

The K 28/3.5 (and this is also true of the K 35/3.5) is one of the best
Pentax wide-angles (IMHO).  A little slow, of course, but excellent
sharpness, contrast and distortion, and available for generally a low price
(although this does vary a bit).

I am not personally familiar with the M 28/3.5 (which is different from the
K 28/3.5).

Although you refer to the 2.8, there are several versions of Pentax
28/2.8's, and I understand they do vary quite a bit in quality.

My personal 28mm favorites are the K 28/2, the K 28/3.5, the A 28/2, and
the VS1 28/1.9.  I guess that the FA 28/2.8 might be a good one to look
for, too...

Fred




Re: SMC 28mm lens query

2006-02-03 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Fred Subject: Re: SMC 28mm lens query






Although you refer to the 2.8, there are several versions of Pentax
28/2.8's, and I understand they do vary quite a bit in quality.



We like to denigrate the M28/2.8s, but they aren't all that bad either.

William Robb



Re: SMC 28mm lens query

2006-02-03 Thread Jack Davis
Cory,
Although we all know that there is a QC variable that applies to
everything, the image produced by my SMC-M 28/f2.8 has never
disappointed me. I've also, never compared it to any other versions or
makes of the 28mm, so how do I know..?
My feeling is that it might come in second against my A* 28~70 f/2.8.
I'll give a test.

Jack

--- Cory Papenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hey all.  The recent query on the Vivitar made me remember that 
 I'm not too satisfied with my Kiron/Vivitar 28mm f/2.  I've been
 looking 
 (i.e. ebaying) for an inexpensive SMC 28mm.  As much as I'd like the
 f/2, 
 it's too expensive and difficult to find.  It appears that there are
 a few 
 versions of the f/2.8.
 
   Comments on which one to go for?  I guess I'm leaning towards an M 
 based on price.  Version2 if I can find one?
 
 -Cory
 
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RE: SMC 28mm lens query

2006-02-03 Thread Don Sanderson
I'll second the K28/3.5, it has a very unique look which
has been called a 3D Look.
I've been calling the effect Presence for the way the
subject is rendered compared to OOF areas.
Here's a sample:
http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Froggie28_35.htm

Don


 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 8:27 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: SMC 28mm lens query


 Although it's not fast, the K28/3.5 is very good. Extremely sharp
 throughout the range. The Vivitar Series 1 28/1.9 is a real prize,
 although hard to find.
 Paul
 On Feb 3, 2006, at 9:19 AM, Cory Papenfuss wrote:

  Hey all.  The recent query on the Vivitar made me remember
 that I'm
  not too satisfied with my Kiron/Vivitar 28mm f/2.  I've been looking
  (i.e. ebaying) for an inexpensive SMC 28mm.  As much as I'd like the
  f/2, it's too expensive and difficult to find.  It appears that there
  are a few versions of the f/2.8.
 
  Comments on which one to go for?  I guess I'm leaning towards an M
  based on price.  Version2 if I can find one?
 
  -Cory
 
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RE: SMC 28mm lens query

2006-02-03 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Why, if I didn't know any better, I'd think it was one of them new fangled
limited lenses I heerd tell about ;-))

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Don Sanderson

 I'll second the K28/3.5, it has a very unique look which
 has been called a 3D Look.
 I've been calling the effect Presence for the way the
 subject is rendered compared to OOF areas.
 Here's a sample:
 http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Froggie28_35.htm




RE: SMC 28mm lens query

2006-02-03 Thread Don Sanderson
It's not a Limited but at $50.00 it's Special!
Actually it seems that in Pentax lenses pretty
much any one that's a 3.5 is pretty special. ;-)

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 11:45 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: SMC 28mm lens query


 Why, if I didn't know any better, I'd think it was one of them new fangled
 limited lenses I heerd tell about ;-))

 Shel



  [Original Message]
  From: Don Sanderson

  I'll second the K28/3.5, it has a very unique look which
  has been called a 3D Look.
  I've been calling the effect Presence for the way the
  subject is rendered compared to OOF areas.
  Here's a sample:
  http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Froggie28_35.htm





Re: SMC 28mm lens query

2006-02-03 Thread Cory Papenfuss

On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Jack Davis wrote:


Cory,
Although we all know that there is a QC variable that applies to
everything, the image produced by my SMC-M 28/f2.8 has never
disappointed me. I've also, never compared it to any other versions or
makes of the 28mm, so how do I know..?
My feeling is that it might come in second against my A* 28~70 f/2.8.
I'll give a test.

	I guess by versions I was sorta looking for clarification on the 
Version1 vs. Version2 of the SMC-M 28/2.8.


	I haven't been able to justify AF lenses (cost) or zoom lenses 
(already have 18-55 SMC-FAJ, 28-105 Vivitar, and 70-210 VS1 so focal 
ranges are covered).  It's been fun getting good, old MF glass for little. 
That's the vein I'm in, although I would like to see how the SMC-M 
compares to the 28-70.


Cheers
-Cory

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RE: SMC 28mm lens query

2006-02-03 Thread Shel Belinkoff
No argument here - I've a K28/3.5 as well as a K35/3.5, and I sort of see
them siblings.  Both are quite good.  Some consider them to be slow, but
with the expanded use of 4.0 zooms, I'd say they were ahead of their time
LOL

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Don Sanderson 

 It's not a Limited but at $50.00 it's Special!
 Actually it seems that in Pentax lenses pretty
 much any one that's a 3.5 is pretty special. ;-)

 Don

  -Original Message-
  From: Shel Belinkoff 

  Why, if I didn't know any better, I'd think it was one of them new
fangled
  limited lenses I heerd tell about ;-))
 
  Shel
 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Don Sanderson

  I'll second the K28/3.5, it has a very unique look which
  has been called a 3D Look.
  I've been calling the effect Presence for the way the
  subject is rendered compared to OOF areas.
  Here's a sample:
  http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Froggie28_35.htm




Re: SMC 28mm lens query

2006-02-03 Thread Carlos Royo

Fred wrote:



My personal 28mm favorites are the K 28/2, the K 28/3.5, the A 28/2, and
the VS1 28/1.9.  I guess that the FA 28/2.8 might be a good one to look
for, too...




I can attest that the FA 28 mm. 2.8 is an excellent lens, both in film 
and digital.


Carlos



Re: SMC 28mm lens query

2006-02-03 Thread Juan Buhler
I have the FA28/2.8, whci has kind of become my standard lens on the
istD after the FA35 took an unfortunate fall a few weeks ago.

I also have the M28/3.5, which I think is just excellent. I'm not
known for shooting brick walls and focusing targets though, so my
opinion is purely subjective.

j

On 2/3/06, Cory Papenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey all.  The recent query on the Vivitar made me remember that
 I'm not too satisfied with my Kiron/Vivitar 28mm f/2.  I've been looking
 (i.e. ebaying) for an inexpensive SMC 28mm.  As much as I'd like the f/2,
 it's too expensive and difficult to find.  It appears that there are a few
 versions of the f/2.8.

 Comments on which one to go for?  I guess I'm leaning towards an M
 based on price.  Version2 if I can find one?

 -Cory

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