Re: Sigma 35mm F1.4 DG HSM drops, but it's for Art use only
No. No. It's a Sigma, if you use it for the wrong subject matter, it will explode. On 11/7/2012 8:06 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: So for all those who were bemoaning the lack of a fast (1.4) normal prime on APS-C Pentax, be unbemoanful. http://www.pmda.com/2012/11/sigma-corporation-of-americas-35mm-f1-4-dg-hsm-now-available Almost more important is Sigma's new clever marketing angle for this very expensive ($900) bauble: they are creating new use-based "lines" for their lenses and this one is being labelled "Art". "As the first lens released under Sigma’s new Art line, it will feature a new matte finish and overall new design concept, which includes a clearly defined category label on every new lens." I for one cannot wait to see what gets released under the Decisive Moment line. Or what about the Undraped Women line? What if you try using a Landscape line lens for birds? Maybe a large red circle with a diagonal line appears in your viewfinder. -- -bmw -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 35mm F1.4 DG HSM drops, but it's for Art use only
Holy Mother of Pearl! Okay, I'm willing to revise my assertion, Boris. The Sigma 35/1.4 is expensive, and those other ones are just crazy expensive. On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Bruce, I don't think that 35/1.4 for $900 is expensive. > > Canon equivalent costs 1.5 times this figure: > http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/162614-USA/Canon_2512A002_Wide_Angle_EF_35mm.html > > Nikon equivalent is even more expensive: > http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/735000-USA/Nikon_2198_AF_S_NIKKOR_35mm_f_1_4G.html > > Sony is somewhere between Canon and Nikon: > http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/463918-REG/Sony_SAL35F14G_SAL_35F14G_Wide_Angle_35mm.html > > So this is actually quite a bargain. > > > > > On 11/8/2012 3:06 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> >> So for all those who were bemoaning the lack of a fast (1.4) normal >> prime on APS-C Pentax, be unbemoanful. >> >> >> http://www.pmda.com/2012/11/sigma-corporation-of-americas-35mm-f1-4-dg-hsm-now-available >> >> Almost more important is Sigma's new clever marketing angle for this >> very expensive ($900) bauble: they are creating new use-based "lines" >> for their lenses and this one is being labelled "Art". >> >> "As the first lens released under Sigma’s new Art line, it will >> feature a new matte finish and overall new design concept, which >> includes a clearly defined category label on every new lens." >> >> I for one cannot wait to see what gets released under the Decisive >> Moment line. Or what about the Undraped Women line? >> >> What if you try using a Landscape line lens for birds? Maybe a large >> red circle with a diagonal line appears in your viewfinder. >> >> -- >> -bmw >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 35mm F1.4 DG HSM drops, but it's for Art use only
Bruce, I don't think that 35/1.4 for $900 is expensive. Canon equivalent costs 1.5 times this figure: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/162614-USA/Canon_2512A002_Wide_Angle_EF_35mm.html Nikon equivalent is even more expensive: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/735000-USA/Nikon_2198_AF_S_NIKKOR_35mm_f_1_4G.html Sony is somewhere between Canon and Nikon: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/463918-REG/Sony_SAL35F14G_SAL_35F14G_Wide_Angle_35mm.html So this is actually quite a bargain. On 11/8/2012 3:06 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: So for all those who were bemoaning the lack of a fast (1.4) normal prime on APS-C Pentax, be unbemoanful. http://www.pmda.com/2012/11/sigma-corporation-of-americas-35mm-f1-4-dg-hsm-now-available Almost more important is Sigma's new clever marketing angle for this very expensive ($900) bauble: they are creating new use-based "lines" for their lenses and this one is being labelled "Art". "As the first lens released under Sigma’s new Art line, it will feature a new matte finish and overall new design concept, which includes a clearly defined category label on every new lens." I for one cannot wait to see what gets released under the Decisive Moment line. Or what about the Undraped Women line? What if you try using a Landscape line lens for birds? Maybe a large red circle with a diagonal line appears in your viewfinder. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 35mm F1.4 DG HSM drops, but it's for Art use only
I have few friends who bought Sigma lenses that were not sharp on their cameras due to focus precision problems. We have rather good Sigma service and there the lenses were fine tuned to the cameras giving outstanding results in terms of AF precision. Now, I suppose, with the introduction of this new lens, the adjustment could be made by the user (for free, I would think) and at their leisure. Although I generally would prefer strict QC and lenses working accurately out of the box, this solution is second best, so that I needn't be going to the office for each lens I'd buy that might have this kind of problems. On 11/9/2012 12:53 PM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: USB port that according to promo on dpreview.com will allow not just changing lens firmware but also things such as micro focus adjustment. What's the point of focus adjustment on the lens anyway? Unless it is for fine-tuning the distance scale on the lens itself, I would think it doesn't do anything. Focus is determined by the camera body, not the lens. Am I missing something here? kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 35mm F1.4 DG HSM drops, but it's for Art use only
Yep, I have a Sigma lens with a problematic chip, it can't focus correctly beyond f5, before f5 focus is perfect. On 9 November 2012 21:53, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: >> > USB port that according to promo on dpreview.com will allow not just >> > changing lens firmware but also things such as micro focus >> adjustment. > > What's the point of focus adjustment on the lens anyway? Unless it is for > fine-tuning the distance scale on the lens itself, I would think it doesn't > do anything. Focus is determined by the camera body, not the lens. Am I > missing something here? > > kris > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Sigma 35mm F1.4 DG HSM drops, but it's for Art use only
> > USB port that according to promo on dpreview.com will allow not just > > changing lens firmware but also things such as micro focus > adjustment. What's the point of focus adjustment on the lens anyway? Unless it is for fine-tuning the distance scale on the lens itself, I would think it doesn't do anything. Focus is determined by the camera body, not the lens. Am I missing something here? kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 35mm F1.4 DG HSM drops, but it's for Art use only
On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:32 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: > Not just that but it has a USB dock to allow firmware updates and lens > adjustment ;) I'm going to keep a close eye on it. I've got two questions: 1) Is it really going to be as good as it seems? 2) How much would I be able to get for my FA31? > > On 8 November 2012 15:28, Boris Liberman wrote: >> I think it is quite a bargain really. As of recently Sigma has been >> producing optically excellent lenses. Add to that that this is a full frame >> lens and further I think it is the first in industry that has USB port that >> according to promo on dpreview.com will allow not just changing lens >> firmware but also things such as micro focus adjustment. >> >> So in terms of technology for the money I think this is a fair offering. >> >> Boris >> >> >> On 11/8/2012 3:06 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: >>> >>> So for all those who were bemoaning the lack of a fast (1.4) normal >>> prime on APS-C Pentax, be unbemoanful. >>> >>> >>> http://www.pmda.com/2012/11/sigma-corporation-of-americas-35mm-f1-4-dg-hsm-now-available >>> >>> Almost more important is Sigma's new clever marketing angle for this >>> very expensive ($900) bauble: they are creating new use-based "lines" >>> for their lenses and this one is being labelled "Art". >>> >>> "As the first lens released under Sigma’s new Art line, it will >>> feature a new matte finish and overall new design concept, which >>> includes a clearly defined category label on every new lens." >>> >>> I for one cannot wait to see what gets released under the Decisive >>> Moment line. Or what about the Undraped Women line? >>> >>> What if you try using a Landscape line lens for birds? Maybe a large >>> red circle with a diagonal line appears in your viewfinder. >>> >>> -- >>> -bmw >>> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > > -- > Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) > Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours > Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 35mm F1.4 DG HSM drops, but it's for Art use only
Not just that but it has a USB dock to allow firmware updates and lens adjustment ;) On 8 November 2012 15:28, Boris Liberman wrote: > I think it is quite a bargain really. As of recently Sigma has been > producing optically excellent lenses. Add to that that this is a full frame > lens and further I think it is the first in industry that has USB port that > according to promo on dpreview.com will allow not just changing lens > firmware but also things such as micro focus adjustment. > > So in terms of technology for the money I think this is a fair offering. > > Boris > > > On 11/8/2012 3:06 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> >> So for all those who were bemoaning the lack of a fast (1.4) normal >> prime on APS-C Pentax, be unbemoanful. >> >> >> http://www.pmda.com/2012/11/sigma-corporation-of-americas-35mm-f1-4-dg-hsm-now-available >> >> Almost more important is Sigma's new clever marketing angle for this >> very expensive ($900) bauble: they are creating new use-based "lines" >> for their lenses and this one is being labelled "Art". >> >> "As the first lens released under Sigma’s new Art line, it will >> feature a new matte finish and overall new design concept, which >> includes a clearly defined category label on every new lens." >> >> I for one cannot wait to see what gets released under the Decisive >> Moment line. Or what about the Undraped Women line? >> >> What if you try using a Landscape line lens for birds? Maybe a large >> red circle with a diagonal line appears in your viewfinder. >> >> -- >> -bmw >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 35mm F1.4 DG HSM drops, but it's for Art use only
I think it is quite a bargain really. As of recently Sigma has been producing optically excellent lenses. Add to that that this is a full frame lens and further I think it is the first in industry that has USB port that according to promo on dpreview.com will allow not just changing lens firmware but also things such as micro focus adjustment. So in terms of technology for the money I think this is a fair offering. Boris On 11/8/2012 3:06 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: So for all those who were bemoaning the lack of a fast (1.4) normal prime on APS-C Pentax, be unbemoanful. http://www.pmda.com/2012/11/sigma-corporation-of-americas-35mm-f1-4-dg-hsm-now-available Almost more important is Sigma's new clever marketing angle for this very expensive ($900) bauble: they are creating new use-based "lines" for their lenses and this one is being labelled "Art". "As the first lens released under Sigma’s new Art line, it will feature a new matte finish and overall new design concept, which includes a clearly defined category label on every new lens." I for one cannot wait to see what gets released under the Decisive Moment line. Or what about the Undraped Women line? What if you try using a Landscape line lens for birds? Maybe a large red circle with a diagonal line appears in your viewfinder. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 35mm F1.4 DG HSM drops, but it's for Art use only
Don't dismiss the cost of adding that new matte finish. You're also defraying the salaries of all the highly paid execs who came up with the overall new design concept. On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Tim Bray wrote: > Wow, I have the Sigma 1.4 30mm and it cost me over $400 in Tokyo a few > years back, and I thought that was expensive. Those extra 5mm are > killers, $100 apiece. -T > > On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> So for all those who were bemoaning the lack of a fast (1.4) normal >> prime on APS-C Pentax, be unbemoanful. >> >> http://www.pmda.com/2012/11/sigma-corporation-of-americas-35mm-f1-4-dg-hsm-now-available >> >> Almost more important is Sigma's new clever marketing angle for this >> very expensive ($900) bauble: they are creating new use-based "lines" >> for their lenses and this one is being labelled "Art". >> >> "As the first lens released under Sigma’s new Art line, it will >> feature a new matte finish and overall new design concept, which >> includes a clearly defined category label on every new lens." >> >> I for one cannot wait to see what gets released under the Decisive >> Moment line. Or what about the Undraped Women line? >> >> What if you try using a Landscape line lens for birds? Maybe a large >> red circle with a diagonal line appears in your viewfinder. >> >> -- >> -bmw >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 35mm F1.4 DG HSM drops, but it's for Art use only
Wow, I have the Sigma 1.4 30mm and it cost me over $400 in Tokyo a few years back, and I thought that was expensive. Those extra 5mm are killers, $100 apiece. -T On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > So for all those who were bemoaning the lack of a fast (1.4) normal > prime on APS-C Pentax, be unbemoanful. > > http://www.pmda.com/2012/11/sigma-corporation-of-americas-35mm-f1-4-dg-hsm-now-available > > Almost more important is Sigma's new clever marketing angle for this > very expensive ($900) bauble: they are creating new use-based "lines" > for their lenses and this one is being labelled "Art". > > "As the first lens released under Sigma’s new Art line, it will > feature a new matte finish and overall new design concept, which > includes a clearly defined category label on every new lens." > > I for one cannot wait to see what gets released under the Decisive > Moment line. Or what about the Undraped Women line? > > What if you try using a Landscape line lens for birds? Maybe a large > red circle with a diagonal line appears in your viewfinder. > > -- > -bmw > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
