RE: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8

2004-12-06 Thread Andre Langevin
I have an opportunity to get the Tak 35/2.3 so was wondering what would be a
fair price for it, also for the 85/1.8 (it is Auto unfortunately so may not
buy it if it ain't so good).
I'll probably buy the Tak 35/2 down the road, I love messing about with the
35's as they are close to normal on my 20D.
What kind of outrageous sums of money should I expect to be relieved of for
these two lenses?
Gareth
When the 35/2.3 is offered on eBay, it goes for less than 100$.  The 
complete kit includes a silver 65mm front cap (the lens has a 62mm 
filter size) and a special lens hood.  Here is the hood.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=78999item=3854383045rd=1
Filters for this lens are harder to find than the lens itself.  They 
are 65mm slip-on.  If you intend to use the lens, as it is not 
multi-coated, it would be a good idea to make a custom tulip hood for 
it (carved out of a long round plastic hood).  I don't know how this 
lens performs.

The Auto-Takumar 85/1.8 also goes for less than 100$.  Its hood is 
very uncommon.  55mm filter size! (the only Takumar lens with that 
size).  Original Asahi 55mm filters are uncommon.  The 2.3 is also 
the only Takumar with a 62mm filter ring size.  The 85mm should be 
good for portrait even if probably rather soft at wide apertures 
compared to the fabulous SMCT.

Andre


Re: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8

2004-12-06 Thread Mat Maessen
What sort of blacklight is this? Garden-variety, or one of the ones
with danger signs all over it about UV exposure?
Was thinking of doing something with a germicidal UV lamp, similar to
http://www.mikeg2.freeserve.co.uk/eprom/eraser.html

-Mat

On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 15:14:22 -0500, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK,
 
 I thought you meant I was the smasher!
 
 Yeah, I use a 18 black light I bought
 for $20 and it works great, usually
 fully cleared lens in a few weeks...
 
 
 
 JCO
 
 -Original Message-
 From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 2:59 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8
 
 - Original Message -
 From: J. C. O'Connell
 Subject: RE: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8
 
  that wasn't me, I restore them, not destroy them.
  I would smash some lenses though given the opportunity
  even if they werent yellowed!
 
 You might want to go back and reread my question,.
 a bit more carefully...
 
 William Robb
 




RE: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8

2004-12-05 Thread J. C. O'Connell
while the smct 85mm F1.8 is a truly great lens, avoid the Auto Tak 85mm
F1.8.

Why do you want the 35mm F2.3? Nothing special. I would recommend the
35mm F3.5 SMCT, the 35mm F2 ST (67mm threaded version), or the SMCT 35mm
F2
instead.

JCO

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Subject: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8


I was hoping that somebody may be able to educate me. I am hoping to
grow my collection of M42 mount lenses and am particularly interested in
the two lenses noted above. The 35/2.3 seems to be extremely rare so
finding information is virtually impossible. I was also hoping to ask
for more information about the Takumar 85/1.8's.

My questions revolve around build quality, image quality, where I might
be able to buy these lenses and last but not least, how much I should
expect to pay. My guess is that I'm going to find the answer to the last
question quite scary!

I'm using these lenses on a Canon 20D with an adapter.

Thank you in anticipation.

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Re: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8

2004-12-05 Thread pnstenquist
There are two screwmount 85/1.8 lenses. The early one was an Auto Takumar (I 
think that's the designation) lens that required manual stopdown and was not 
very well considered. The second came late in the screwmount era. It's called 
the Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 85/1.8, and it's a great lens. It is said to be 
optically identical to the very desirable K mount 85/1.8. The lens can usually 
be found used for about $300. Ebay is your best bet. I think I saw one there 
just the other day. 
I'm not familiar with the 35/2.3.
Paul


 I was hoping that somebody may be able to educate me. I am hoping to grow my
 collection of M42 mount lenses and am particularly interested in the two
 lenses noted above. The 35/2.3 seems to be extremely rare so finding
 information is virtually impossible. I was also hoping to ask for more
 information about the Takumar 85/1.8's.
 
 My questions revolve around build quality, image quality, where I might be
 able to buy these lenses and last but not least, how much I should expect to
 pay. My guess is that I'm going to find the answer to the last question
 quite scary!
 
 I'm using these lenses on a Canon 20D with an adapter.
 
 Thank you in anticipation.
 
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RE: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8

2004-12-05 Thread pnstenquist
With the SMCT 35/2, you have to watch out for the dreaded yellow peril. The 
glass is frequently yellowed due to the use of radioactive materials.
Paul


 while the smct 85mm F1.8 is a truly great lens, avoid the Auto Tak 85mm
 F1.8.
 
 Why do you want the 35mm F2.3? Nothing special. I would recommend the
 35mm F3.5 SMCT, the 35mm F2 ST (67mm threaded version), or the SMCT 35mm
 F2
 instead.
 
 JCO
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gateway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 2:25 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8
 
 
 I was hoping that somebody may be able to educate me. I am hoping to
 grow my collection of M42 mount lenses and am particularly interested in
 the two lenses noted above. The 35/2.3 seems to be extremely rare so
 finding information is virtually impossible. I was also hoping to ask
 for more information about the Takumar 85/1.8's.
 
 My questions revolve around build quality, image quality, where I might
 be able to buy these lenses and last but not least, how much I should
 expect to pay. My guess is that I'm going to find the answer to the last
 question quite scary!
 
 I'm using these lenses on a Canon 20D with an adapter.
 
 Thank you in anticipation.
 
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Re: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8

2004-12-05 Thread William Robb
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: RE: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8

With the SMCT 35/2, you have to watch out for the dreaded yellow 
peril. The glass is frequently yellowed due to the use of 
radioactive materials.
JCO, didn't you come up with a cure for that which didn't involve 
impacting the lens with a large hammer?

William Robb 




Re: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8

2004-12-05 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 With the SMCT 35/2, you have to watch out for the dreaded yellow 
 peril. The glass is frequently yellowed due to the use of 
 radioactive materials.

JCO, didn't you come up with a cure for that which didn't involve 
impacting the lens with a large hammer?

Extended exposure to UV from an aquarium lamp, IIRC.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



RE: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8

2004-12-05 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Reminder : The yellow peril is no longer an issue. They can
be easily cleared with exposure to UV lighting (artificial
or natural). They might need another clearing in year 2034.
JCO

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Subject: RE: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8


With the SMCT 35/2, you have to watch out for the dreaded yellow peril.
The glass is frequently yellowed due to the use of radioactive
materials. Paul


 while the smct 85mm F1.8 is a truly great lens, avoid the Auto Tak 
 85mm F1.8.
 
 Why do you want the 35mm F2.3? Nothing special. I would recommend the 
 35mm F3.5 SMCT, the 35mm F2 ST (67mm threaded version), or the SMCT 
 35mm F2 instead.
 
 JCO
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gateway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 2:25 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8
 
 
 I was hoping that somebody may be able to educate me. I am hoping to 
 grow my collection of M42 mount lenses and am particularly interested 
 in the two lenses noted above. The 35/2.3 seems to be extremely rare 
 so finding information is virtually impossible. I was also hoping to 
 ask for more information about the Takumar 85/1.8's.
 
 My questions revolve around build quality, image quality, where I 
 might be able to buy these lenses and last but not least, how much I 
 should expect to pay. My guess is that I'm going to find the answer to

 the last question quite scary!
 
 I'm using these lenses on a Canon 20D with an adapter.
 
 Thank you in anticipation.
 
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RE: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8

2004-12-05 Thread J. C. O'Connell
that wasn't me, I restore them, not destroy them.
I would smash some lenses though given the opportunity
even if they werent yellowed!
JCO

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Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 2:44 PM
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Subject: Re: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8



- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: RE: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8


 With the SMCT 35/2, you have to watch out for the dreaded yellow
 peril. The glass is frequently yellowed due to the use of 
 radioactive materials.

JCO, didn't you come up with a cure for that which didn't involve 
impacting the lens with a large hammer?

William Robb 




RE: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8

2004-12-05 Thread Gateway
I have an opportunity to get the Tak 35/2.3 so was wondering what would be a
fair price for it, also for the 85/1.8 (it is Auto unfortunately so may not
buy it if it ain't so good).

I'll probably buy the Tak 35/2 down the road, I love messing about with the
35's as they are close to normal on my 20D.

What kind of outrageous sums of money should I expect to be relieved of for
these two lenses?

Gareth


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Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 3:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8


William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 With the SMCT 35/2, you have to watch out for the dreaded yellow
 peril. The glass is frequently yellowed due to the use of
 radioactive materials.

JCO, didn't you come up with a cure for that which didn't involve
impacting the lens with a large hammer?

Extended exposure to UV from an aquarium lamp, IIRC.

--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



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Re: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8

2004-12-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8


that wasn't me, I restore them, not destroy them.
I would smash some lenses though given the opportunity
even if they werent yellowed!
You might want to go back and reread my question,.
a bit more carefully...
William Robb


RE: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8

2004-12-05 Thread J. C. O'Connell
OK,

I thought you meant I was the smasher!

Yeah, I use a 18 black light I bought
for $20 and it works great, usually
fully cleared lens in a few weeks...

JCO

-Original Message-
From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 2:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8



- Original Message - 
From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8


 that wasn't me, I restore them, not destroy them.
 I would smash some lenses though given the opportunity
 even if they werent yellowed!

You might want to go back and reread my question,.
a bit more carefully...

William Robb



Re: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8

2004-12-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: J. C. O'Connell 
Subject: RE: Takumar 35/2.3 and 85/1.8


OK,
I thought you meant I was the smasher!
I know better than that.
William Robb