Re: The Thingy in the istDS
If you are prone to losing these little gizmos, and you have a broad enough strap, do as I did - thread some plastic film cassette holders between the two parts of the strap where it loops back through the buckle, quick stitch or even superglue to stop them falling out, and you can carry all sorts of stuff in them. The lids stay on so it's weatherproof too. Like this (looking at it side-on): | ! ) ! ) ! ) | | HTH John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The Thingy in the istDS
From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/28 Wed PM 10:42:23 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The Thingy in the istDS David Savage wrote: Why not just sew a pocket on? Yeah, and why don't I just raise and harvest the flax and ... :-) Really, me and a needle is a recipe for a trip to the Emergency Room. I can barely sew a button on. Actually, though, the foam straps that I've found thus far don't have a place to sew on a pocket where it would hold. So I'm looking for something like the Tamrac MAS accessories that's really small and closes tightly enough that all those little odds and sods like the flash shoe cover won't fall out. If you can find one [8-)] take a film tub, cut out two rectangular holes at top and bottom on the same side and thread the non-foam part of the strap through the holes. Put the cap back on. Lo! Odds and sods holder! - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Speaking of conversations: I'm very happy the period of the cold conversation is over. Hopefully we will avoid the third world conversation. Don't worry. I'm not starting a political debate, I'm just exploring the possibilities of Bill's definition of conversation. Interesting. Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: 28. mars 2007 17:52 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: The Thingy in the istDS - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: The Thingy in the istDS I personally can't believe that Shel didn't know that cameras come with hot shot covers and that there's been this much conversation over something that must cost under .10 to manufacture. We had more converstion over the aperture simulator thingie, and apparently, it costs nothing William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The Thingy in the istDS
On 3/29/07, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Savage wrote: Why not just sew a pocket on? Yeah, and why don't I just raise and harvest the flax and ... :-) :-) Really, me and a needle is a recipe for a trip to the Emergency Room. I can barely sew a button on. As good a reason as any. But for future reference use a sewing needle, not a knitting needle. They do less damage. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/27 Tue PM 11:03:32 GMT To: PDML PDML@pdml.net Subject: The Thingy in the istDS I've been using the istDS for about two years and today I noticed a little thingy in the flash attachment. It looks like it's designed to cover and protect the contacts. That's pretty cool. This is my second DS, and I don't recall this protection cover being on the first camera. Is this a standard item, or maybe an optional piece that was installed by the original owner of my second camera, which I bought used? Standard fitment in most new cameras of quality. Even my Zenits had one. The one for the Z1-p was a most bizarre shape, due to the location of the shoe. The DL/2 has cutouts on the locating rails (in fact, on one side the rail is almost completely missing) to save a farthing's worth of plastic. I think you can get a Leica one made in precious metal and set with gemstones. It's an optional extra on the Paris Hilton Sex Tape Commemorative model. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: The Thingy in the istDS
I use the strap pocket from the MZ-S (strap I use on the istD) to keep mine in when I use a shoe mounted flash. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 8:09 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: The Thingy in the istDS Nikons get them too, dunno about Canons. I tend to lose them the first time I use a flash. -Adam Thibouille wrote: Pretty standard on all Pentax camera I saw news which means P30T/Z1/SFX/istD/K10D at least ;) 2007/3/28, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've been using the istDS for about two years and today I noticed a little thingy in the flash attachment. It looks like it's designed to cover and protect the contacts. That's pretty cool. This is my second DS, and I don't recall this protection cover being on the first camera. Is this a standard item, or maybe an optional piece that was installed by the original owner of my second camera, which I bought used? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Humm. I don't remember mine with them, unless they are still in the boxes. Both istD cameras are now missing said cover though.:-) Dave On 3/27/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nikons get them too, dunno about Canons. I tend to lose them the first time I use a flash. -Adam Thibouille wrote: Pretty standard on all Pentax camera I saw news which means P30T/Z1/SFX/istD/K10D at least ;) 2007/3/28, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've been using the istDS for about two years and today I noticed a little thingy in the flash attachment. It looks like it's designed to cover and protect the contacts. That's pretty cool. This is my second DS, and I don't recall this protection cover being on the first camera. Is this a standard item, or maybe an optional piece that was installed by the original owner of my second camera, which I bought used? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Bill Owens wrote: I use the strap pocket from the MZ-S (strap I use on the istD) to keep mine in when I use a shoe mounted flash. That is about the best thing about the strap that came with the MZ-S. Since I tend to keep the camera on for long periods of time, with heavy lenses attached, I prefer the foam straps, and those two pockets are the biggest loss in the strap swap. I'm disappointed that the digital SLR bodies came with a pocketless strap, in a way. Since I switch to the foam straps, though, I'd like to find one of those with similar pockets. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Why not just sew a pocket on? Cheers, Dave (For the record I leave the hot shoe cover off.) On 3/28/07, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Owens wrote: I use the strap pocket from the MZ-S (strap I use on the istD) to keep mine in when I use a shoe mounted flash. That is about the best thing about the strap that came with the MZ-S. Since I tend to keep the camera on for long periods of time, with heavy lenses attached, I prefer the foam straps, and those two pockets are the biggest loss in the strap swap. I'm disappointed that the digital SLR bodies came with a pocketless strap, in a way. Since I switch to the foam straps, though, I'd like to find one of those with similar pockets. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Actually they they're not saving money. Starting with the M series of cameras, that I'm aware of at least, (maybe earlier, I seem to remember something similar on the ESII, but I don't have one available to look at right now). Pentax incorporated a switch in the hot shoe, usually on the right side which interrupted power flow to the electrical contacts when a flash was not mounted. The rational for this was that a user wouldn't shock themselves when using a flash attached to the PC connection, which was possible with a number of cameras IIRC. That switch is missing on the *ist D, which has a PC connector, (probably the same function is done electronically), and though it doesn't serve the same function since the Ds doesn't have a PC connector, the the switch is present on the Ds. The cutout is to keep from stressing the spring on that switch. mike wilson wrote: From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/27 Tue PM 11:03:32 GMT To: PDML PDML@pdml.net Subject: The Thingy in the istDS I've been using the istDS for about two years and today I noticed a little thingy in the flash attachment. It looks like it's designed to cover and protect the contacts. That's pretty cool. This is my second DS, and I don't recall this protection cover being on the first camera. Is this a standard item, or maybe an optional piece that was installed by the original owner of my second camera, which I bought used? Standard fitment in most new cameras of quality. Even my Zenits had one. The one for the Z1-p was a most bizarre shape, due to the location of the shoe. The DL/2 has cutouts on the locating rails (in fact, on one side the rail is almost completely missing) to save a farthing's worth of plastic. I think you can get a Leica one made in precious metal and set with gemstones. It's an optional extra on the Paris Hilton Sex Tape Commemorative model. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/28 Wed PM 03:20:51 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The Thingy in the istDS Actually they they're not saving money. Starting with the M series of cameras, that I'm aware of at least, (maybe earlier, I seem to remember something similar on the ESII, but I don't have one available to look at right now). Pentax incorporated a switch in the hot shoe, usually on the right side which interrupted power flow to the electrical contacts when a flash was not mounted. The rational for this was that a user wouldn't shock themselves when using a flash attached to the PC connection, which was possible with a number of cameras IIRC. That switch is missing on the *ist D, which has a PC connector, (probably the same function is done electronically), and though it doesn't serve the same function since the Ds doesn't have a PC connector, the the switch is present on the Ds. The cutout is to keep from stressing the spring on that switch. True for the DL/2. Will have to check the Z when I get home - about seven minutes from now. mike wilson wrote: From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/27 Tue PM 11:03:32 GMT To: PDML PDML@pdml.net Subject: The Thingy in the istDS I've been using the istDS for about two years and today I noticed a little thingy in the flash attachment. It looks like it's designed to cover and protect the contacts. That's pretty cool. This is my second DS, and I don't recall this protection cover being on the first camera. Is this a standard item, or maybe an optional piece that was installed by the original owner of my second camera, which I bought used? Standard fitment in most new cameras of quality. Even my Zenits had one. The one for the Z1-p was a most bizarre shape, due to the location of the shoe. The DL/2 has cutouts on the locating rails (in fact, on one side the rail is almost completely missing) to save a farthing's worth of plastic. I think you can get a Leica one made in precious metal and set with gemstones. It's an optional extra on the Paris Hilton Sex Tape Commemorative model. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I personally can't believe that Shel didn't know that cameras come with hot shot covers and that there's been this much conversation over something that must cost under .10 to manufacture. Tom C. From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The Thingy in the istDS Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:49:23 -0500 Humm. I don't remember mine with them, unless they are still in the boxes. Both istD cameras are now missing said cover though.:-) Dave On 3/27/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nikons get them too, dunno about Canons. I tend to lose them the first time I use a flash. -Adam Thibouille wrote: Pretty standard on all Pentax camera I saw news which means P30T/Z1/SFX/istD/K10D at least ;) 2007/3/28, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've been using the istDS for about two years and today I noticed a little thingy in the flash attachment. It looks like it's designed to cover and protect the contacts. That's pretty cool. This is my second DS, and I don't recall this protection cover being on the first camera. Is this a standard item, or maybe an optional piece that was installed by the original owner of my second camera, which I bought used? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: The Thingy in the istDS I personally can't believe that Shel didn't know that cameras come with hot shot covers and that there's been this much conversation over something that must cost under .10 to manufacture. We had more converstion over the aperture simulator thingie, and apparently, it costs nothing William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Believe what you will ... Shel [Original Message] From: Tom C I personally can't believe that Shel didn't know that cameras come with hot shot covers -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The Thingy in the istDS
mike wilson wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/28 Wed PM 03:20:51 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The Thingy in the istDS Actually they they're not saving money. Starting with the M series of cameras, that I'm aware of at least, (maybe earlier, I seem to remember something similar on the ESII, but I don't have one available to look at right now). Pentax incorporated a switch in the hot shoe, usually on the right side which interrupted power flow to the electrical contacts when a flash was not mounted. The rational for this was that a user wouldn't shock themselves when using a flash attached to the PC connection, which was possible with a number of cameras IIRC. That switch is missing on the *ist D, which has a PC connector, (probably the same function is done electronically), and though it doesn't serve the same function since the Ds doesn't have a PC connector, the the switch is present on the Ds. The cutout is to keep from stressing the spring on that switch. True for the DL/2. Will have to check the Z when I get home - about seven minutes from now. OK, a bit longer. Hope you weren't too distraught. No switch and no cutouts on the Z1-p. Nor the LX. Both of which have flash restraining springs on both sides of the shoe. None of the above have a PC connector - the LX does have the TTL connectors on the front. Weirdly weird. I wonder if the cost of fitting the cutout switch on the camera that doesn't need it precluded fitting the - - no, I won't go there BTW, the switch on the DL/2 is on the left, looking from the rear. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Apparently you're new here. Welcome to the PDML. Tom C wrote: I personally can't believe that Shel didn't know that cameras come with hot shot covers and that there's been this much conversation over something that must cost under .10 to manufacture. Tom C. From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The Thingy in the istDS Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:49:23 -0500 Humm. I don't remember mine with them, unless they are still in the boxes. Both istD cameras are now missing said cover though.:-) Dave On 3/27/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nikons get them too, dunno about Canons. I tend to lose them the first time I use a flash. -Adam Thibouille wrote: Pretty standard on all Pentax camera I saw news which means P30T/Z1/SFX/istD/K10D at least ;) 2007/3/28, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've been using the istDS for about two years and today I noticed a little thingy in the flash attachment. It looks like it's designed to cover and protect the contacts. That's pretty cool. This is my second DS, and I don't recall this protection cover being on the first camera. Is this a standard item, or maybe an optional piece that was installed by the original owner of my second camera, which I bought used? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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LOL. Let me introduce my self... Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apparently you're new here. Welcome to the PDML. Tom C wrote: I personally can't believe that Shel didn't know that cameras come with hot shot covers and that there's been this much conversation over something that must cost under .10 to manufacture. Tom C. From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The Thingy in the istDS Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:49:23 -0500 Humm. I don't remember mine with them, unless they are still in the boxes. Both istD cameras are now missing said cover though.:-) Dave On 3/27/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nikons get them too, dunno about Canons. I tend to lose them the first time I use a flash. -Adam Thibouille wrote: Pretty standard on all Pentax camera I saw news which means P30T/Z1/SFX/istD/K10D at least ;) 2007/3/28, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've been using the istDS for about two years and today I noticed a little thingy in the flash attachment. It looks like it's designed to cover and protect the contacts. That's pretty cool. This is my second DS, and I don't recall this protection cover being on the first camera. Is this a standard item, or maybe an optional piece that was installed by the original owner of my second camera, which I bought used? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The Thingy in the istDS
mike wilson wrote: mike wilson wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/28 Wed PM 03:20:51 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The Thingy in the istDS Actually they they're not saving money. Starting with the M series of cameras, that I'm aware of at least, (maybe earlier, I seem to remember something similar on the ESII, but I don't have one available to look at right now). Pentax incorporated a switch in the hot shoe, usually on the right side which interrupted power flow to the electrical contacts when a flash was not mounted. The rational for this was that a user wouldn't shock themselves when using a flash attached to the PC connection, which was possible with a number of cameras IIRC. That switch is missing on the *ist D, which has a PC connector, (probably the same function is done electronically), and though it doesn't serve the same function since the Ds doesn't have a PC connector, the the switch is present on the Ds. The cutout is to keep from stressing the spring on that switch. True for the DL/2. Will have to check the Z when I get home - about seven minutes from now. OK, a bit longer. Hope you weren't too distraught. No switch and no cutouts on the Z1-p. Nor the LX. Both of which have flash restraining springs on both sides of the shoe. None of the above have a PC connector - the LX does have the TTL connectors on the front. Weirdly weird. I wonder if the cost of fitting the cutout switch on the camera that doesn't need it precluded fitting the - - no, I won't go there BTW, the switch on the DL/2 is on the left, looking from the rear. The LX has two PC connectors, for X and FP sync. The X sync also has 2 contacts below it for TTL with the TTL handle flash. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Peter, I haven't seen any 'cut-out' switches on any of the pre-M series cameras. That includes KX, KM, K2, or ESII, ES, or ElectroSpotmatic. And of course the Spotmatic had no hot shoe. Maybe the cameras inbetween?? Regards, Bob S. On 3/28/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually they they're not saving money. Starting with the M series of cameras, that I'm aware of at least, (maybe earlier, I seem to remember something similar on the ESII, but I don't have one available to look at right now). Pentax incorporated a switch in the hot shoe, usually on the right side which interrupted power flow to the electrical contacts when a flash was not mounted. The rational for this was that a user wouldn't shock themselves when using a flash attached to the PC connection, which was possible with a number of cameras IIRC. That switch is missing on the *ist D, which has a PC connector, (probably the same function is done electronically), and though it doesn't serve the same function since the Ds doesn't have a PC connector, the the switch is present on the Ds. The cutout is to keep from stressing the spring on that switch. mike wilson wrote: From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/27 Tue PM 11:03:32 GMT To: PDML PDML@pdml.net Subject: The Thingy in the istDS I've been using the istDS for about two years and today I noticed a little thingy in the flash attachment. It looks like it's designed to cover and protect the contacts. That's pretty cool. This is my second DS, and I don't recall this protection cover being on the first camera. Is this a standard item, or maybe an optional piece that was installed by the original owner of my second camera, which I bought used? Standard fitment in most new cameras of quality. Even my Zenits had one. The one for the Z1-p was a most bizarre shape, due to the location of the shoe. The DL/2 has cutouts on the locating rails (in fact, on one side the rail is almost completely missing) to save a farthing's worth of plastic. I think you can get a Leica one made in precious metal and set with gemstones. It's an optional extra on the Paris Hilton Sex Tape Commemorative model. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: The Thingy in the istDS
what about the spotmatics that DID have a hot shoe, the spII spIIA and spF ? I dont recall any hot shoe cutoff switches on those either... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:57 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: The Thingy in the istDS Peter, I haven't seen any 'cut-out' switches on any of the pre-M series cameras. That includes KX, KM, K2, or ESII, ES, or ElectroSpotmatic. And of course the Spotmatic had no hot shoe. Maybe the cameras inbetween?? Regards, Bob S. On 3/28/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually they they're not saving money. Starting with the M series of cameras, that I'm aware of at least, (maybe earlier, I seem to remember something similar on the ESII, but I don't have one available to look at right now). Pentax incorporated a switch in the hot shoe, usually on the right side which interrupted power flow to the electrical contacts when a flash was not mounted. The rational for this was that a user wouldn't shock themselves when using a flash attached to the PC connection, which was possible with a number of cameras IIRC. That switch is missing on the *ist D, which has a PC connector, (probably the same function is done electronically), and though it doesn't serve the same function since the Ds doesn't have a PC connector, the the switch is present on the Ds. The cutout is to keep from stressing the spring on that switch. mike wilson wrote: From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/27 Tue PM 11:03:32 GMT To: PDML PDML@pdml.net Subject: The Thingy in the istDS I've been using the istDS for about two years and today I noticed a little thingy in the flash attachment. It looks like it's designed to cover and protect the contacts. That's pretty cool. This is my second DS, and I don't recall this protection cover being on the first camera. Is this a standard item, or maybe an optional piece that was installed by the original owner of my second camera, which I bought used? Standard fitment in most new cameras of quality. Even my Zenits had one. The one for the Z1-p was a most bizarre shape, due to the location of the shoe. The DL/2 has cutouts on the locating rails (in fact, on one side the rail is almost completely missing) to save a farthing's worth of plastic. I think you can get a Leica one made in precious metal and set with gemstones. It's an optional extra on the Paris Hilton Sex Tape Commemorative model. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The Thingy in the istDS
You're probably right. I do know the ME SE has that switch and the Plastic cover had the short plastic rail to save the spring. I've since lost the hot shoe cover. (On the other hand I still have the covers for both the D and Ds, though now that I've said that I'm sure to lose one or both of them). Bob Sullivan wrote: Peter, I haven't seen any 'cut-out' switches on any of the pre-M series cameras. That includes KX, KM, K2, or ESII, ES, or ElectroSpotmatic. And of course the Spotmatic had no hot shoe. Maybe the cameras inbetween?? Regards, Bob S. On 3/28/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually they they're not saving money. Starting with the M series of cameras, that I'm aware of at least, (maybe earlier, I seem to remember something similar on the ESII, but I don't have one available to look at right now). Pentax incorporated a switch in the hot shoe, usually on the right side which interrupted power flow to the electrical contacts when a flash was not mounted. The rational for this was that a user wouldn't shock themselves when using a flash attached to the PC connection, which was possible with a number of cameras IIRC. That switch is missing on the *ist D, which has a PC connector, (probably the same function is done electronically), and though it doesn't serve the same function since the Ds doesn't have a PC connector, the the switch is present on the Ds. The cutout is to keep from stressing the spring on that switch. mike wilson wrote: From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/27 Tue PM 11:03:32 GMT To: PDML PDML@pdml.net Subject: The Thingy in the istDS I've been using the istDS for about two years and today I noticed a little thingy in the flash attachment. It looks like it's designed to cover and protect the contacts. That's pretty cool. This is my second DS, and I don't recall this protection cover being on the first camera. Is this a standard item, or maybe an optional piece that was installed by the original owner of my second camera, which I bought used? Standard fitment in most new cameras of quality. Even my Zenits had one. The one for the Z1-p was a most bizarre shape, due to the location of the shoe. The DL/2 has cutouts on the locating rails (in fact, on one side the rail is almost completely missing) to save a farthing's worth of plastic. I think you can get a Leica one made in precious metal and set with gemstones. It's an optional extra on the Paris Hilton Sex Tape Commemorative model. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The Thingy in the istDS
Tom C wrote: I personally can't believe that Shel didn't know that cameras come with hot shot covers and that there's been this much conversation over something that must cost under .10 to manufacture. A hot shot cover? I _want_ one of those! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The Thingy in the istDS
David Savage wrote: Why not just sew a pocket on? Yeah, and why don't I just raise and harvest the flax and ... :-) Really, me and a needle is a recipe for a trip to the Emergency Room. I can barely sew a button on. Actually, though, the foam straps that I've found thus far don't have a place to sew on a pocket where it would hold. So I'm looking for something like the Tamrac MAS accessories that's really small and closes tightly enough that all those little odds and sods like the flash shoe cover won't fall out. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The Thingy in the istDS
On Mar 27, 2007, at 4:03 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I've been using the istDS for about two years and today I noticed a little thingy in the flash attachment. It looks like it's designed to cover and protect the contacts. That's pretty cool. This is my second DS, and I don't recall this protection cover being on the first camera. Is this a standard item, or maybe an optional piece that was installed by the original owner of my second camera, which I bought used? The hotshoe contact cover is a standard piece, all three of my Pentax DSLR cameras were supplied with it. I've lost one, but replaced it. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The Thingy in the istDS
Pretty standard on all Pentax camera I saw news which means P30T/Z1/SFX/istD/K10D at least ;) 2007/3/28, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've been using the istDS for about two years and today I noticed a little thingy in the flash attachment. It looks like it's designed to cover and protect the contacts. That's pretty cool. This is my second DS, and I don't recall this protection cover being on the first camera. Is this a standard item, or maybe an optional piece that was installed by the original owner of my second camera, which I bought used? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The Thingy in the istDS
Nikons get them too, dunno about Canons. I tend to lose them the first time I use a flash. -Adam Thibouille wrote: Pretty standard on all Pentax camera I saw news which means P30T/Z1/SFX/istD/K10D at least ;) 2007/3/28, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've been using the istDS for about two years and today I noticed a little thingy in the flash attachment. It looks like it's designed to cover and protect the contacts. That's pretty cool. This is my second DS, and I don't recall this protection cover being on the first camera. Is this a standard item, or maybe an optional piece that was installed by the original owner of my second camera, which I bought used? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The Thingy in the istDS
I tend to lose them the first time I use a flash. -Adam Yeah this is pretty usual if not mandatory part of owning Pentax camera ;) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
