Re: Tokina AT-X 287 AF PRO SV 28-70mm f/2.8D

2005-08-21 Thread Frantisek
IR Again, I am not sure how the new lens is compared to the old one,
IR and what is the difference between the 28-70/2.8 and 28-80/2.8,
IR i.e. which one is the continuation of the 28-70/2.6-2.8 design, if any.
IR I was curious about that myself.

See the archives! This is a recuperant theme, and was discussed few months ago 
quite a lot.

Just shortly, 28-70/2.6-2.8 ATX  28-80/2.8 ATX are the pro versions. The
28-70/2.8 SV ATX is the cheap version (~300 Euro), plastic and not as
great, but still good.

Good light!
   fra



Re: Tokina AT-X 287 AF PRO SV 28-70mm f/2.8D

2005-08-21 Thread Igor Roshchin
 From: Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Tokina AT-X 287 AF PRO SV 28-70mm f/2.8D

 IR Again, I am not sure how the new lens is compared to the old one,
 IR and what is the difference between the 28-70/2.8 and 28-80/2.8,
 IR i.e. which one is the continuation of the 28-70/2.6-2.8 design, if any.
 IR I was curious about that myself.

 See the archives! This is a recuperant theme, and was discussed few months 
 ago quite a lot.

 Just shortly, 28-70/2.6-2.8 ATX  28-80/2.8 ATX are the pro versions. The
 28-70/2.8 SV ATX is the cheap version (~300 Euro), plastic and not as
 great, but still good.

 Good light!
fra


Frantisek, 


I've searched the archives, but didn't find the answer.
I might  try to search again.

I thought it could be the way you wrote, but Tokina website
claims that 28-70/2.8 ATX SV is also in the PRO line:
http://www.thkphoto.com/products/tokina/index.html
http://www.thkphoto.com/products/tokina/afl-03.html

Judging from the picture, - its external design is very close to that
of 28-70/2.6-2.8 ATX PRO
However, the internal design pictured there
indeed seems to indicate better optics
quality of the 28-80/2.8 compared to that of 28-70/2.8

Igor




Re: Tokina AT-X 287 AF PRO SV 28-70mm f/2.8D

2005-08-21 Thread Frantisek
IR I've searched the archives, but didn't find the answer.
IR I might  try to search again.

I will try to look up the messages on my computer, if they are still
here.

IR I thought it could be the way you wrote, but Tokina website
IR claims that 28-70/2.8 ATX SV is also in the PRO line:
IR http://www.thkphoto.com/products/tokina/index.html
IR http://www.thkphoto.com/products/tokina/afl-03.html

They may say what they want, but I have handled both the 2.6-2.8, 2.8
SV (yes, it features PRO denomination as well). The 28-80 I have
only handled once, and not shot any photos. Simply, there is
difference in mechanical construction and materials* once you compare
the SV and non-SV versions. SV was previous line of Tokina's consumer
lenses, the SV PRO is a merge of the two?!? Optically, I have seen
better results from the non-SV versions, esp. at full aperture. That
said, it's not a bad lens at all, just not as great as the earlier
(and quite a lot more expensive) Tokina 2.6-2.8 or 28-80 probably.

*: the zoom rings are plastic in the SV version. Like with most partly plastic
lenses like Sigma 70-200/2.8, once you squeeze the zoom ring a bit, it
turns much less freely compared to a good all-metal zoom. More of the
outer shell is plastic too. The design looks the same, but the
materials differ, just hold them in hand :)

Hope that helps.



Re: Tokina AT-X 287 AF PRO SV 28-70mm f/2.8D

2005-08-21 Thread Andre Langevin
The original Tokina 28-70 Pro is the last zoom that Angenieux made 
for SLR, bought and rebadged by Tokina. Further Tokina 28-70 and 
28-80 models developped from there I guess.


Andre



RE: Tokina AT-X 287 AF PRO SV 28-70mm f/2.8D

2005-08-21 Thread Jens Bladt
Mine is not SV. What does SV stand for?
Mine is the AT-X 2.6-2.8/28-70mm Pro II. Amd it's really excellent, pehaps
except for the 28mm range - not that sharp.
Regards

Jens Bladt
Arkitekt MAA
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


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The original Tokina 28-70 Pro is the last zoom that Angenieux made
for SLR, bought and rebadged by Tokina. Further Tokina 28-70 and
28-80 models developped from there I guess.

Andre




Re: Tokina AT-X 287 AF PRO SV 28-70mm f/2.8D

2005-08-19 Thread Joseph Tainter

Is this the current one? If so, it tests less well than two others:

Tamron 28-75 f2.8
Tokina AT-X AF Pro 28-80 f2.8

I have the Tokina 28-80, and can attest that it is very sharp but heavy, 
and can flare if shot into the sun. The Tamron is also very sharp, 
lighter, and less expensive.


Joe



Re: Tokina AT-X 287 AF PRO SV 28-70mm f/2.8D

2005-08-19 Thread Igor Roshchin

 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:45:03 -0700
 From: John Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Tokina AT-X 287 AF PRO SV 28-70mm f/2.8D
 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Does anyone have the Pentax version of this lens? I'm wondering how  
 it compares to the much more expensive and heavy Pentax FA 28-70  
 F2.8. The Photodo rating for the Pentax is 3.5 compared to a 3.1 for  
 the Tokina. I've had my eye on the FA for some time now, but for its  
 price I could get an FA 24-90 plus maybe a couple others on my list  
 (16-45, 50-200, etc).

 Thanks,
 Jay T


I have AT-X 28-70 PRO f/2.6-2.8, purchased back in 1997, which 
I believe is the previous version of this.  This is a very good lens, 
and at that time it was tested very well against other brands. 
I don't remember details, but my impression that it was rated just
below the counterpart from Pentax, and way above the similar lenses
from the Sigma and/or Tamron (I don't remember who had what at that
point).
Overall, my lens is very good. I think it a bit soft on with the 
aperture one open, but half a step closed down it seems to be alright.
It is rather heavy and large in size, but to me it is worth hauling
it around.
With ZX-5n and *ist DS it is usually quick to focus (if the manual
focusing ring is disengaged). Maybe not as fast as my Pentax SMC FA 50/1.7,
but, still fast enough.

Again, I am not sure how the new lens is compared to the old one,
and what is the difference between the 28-70/2.8 and 28-80/2.8,
i.e. which one is the continuation of the 28-70/2.6-2.8 design, if any.
I was curious about that myself.

Igor