Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
I prefer B by a narrow margin, but like them both very much.
Paul
On Oct 11, 2004, at 11:29 PM, Chris Brogden wrote:
I love A.  Not crazy about B.  T, OTOH...  :)
Chris
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 21:20:45 -0600, William Robb 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Caveman
Subject: Re: When good photographers do bad things

Just for the fun of it:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/_IGP5595a.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/_IGP5595b.jpg
Say Bill do you like the Cave-filtermatic ?

I like b more than a.
b..





RE: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-12 Thread David Madsen
I figured you were.  It's OK, I get it a lot.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 11:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: When good photographers do bad things


I was just funnin' you.
I've been through Boise, seemed like a nice town.
Lovely scenery close by.
Met a very nice family from there last month.

William Robb




Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-12 Thread Peter J. Alling
Yea, yea, yea, and the check is in the mail.
Dario Bonazza wrote:
Software will fix that, removing noise, red-eye, moles, flaws, tattoos,
eyeballs, hair and moustache from pictures, depending on your chosen
settings :-)
Dario
- Original Message - 
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: When good photographers do bad things

 

Caveman wrote on 11.10.04 17:51:
   

While you're probably right on the MP figure, looking at current trends
I suspect no one would ever bother to address the noise issues.
 

Who knows? Technology changes fast. Maybe someone will develop CCD (or
   

CMOS
 

or whatever) manufacturing technology that will reduce noise
   

significantly?
 

--
Best Regards
Sylwek
   


 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-12 Thread Peter J. Alling
Bill's in Canada, OSHA isn't allowed to operate there, for which he 
should be eternally thankful.

Graywolf wrote:
The girl on the ladder should have been wearing steel toed boots. OSHA 
will be by to fine you for workplace safety violations.

--
William Robb wrote:
Or not.
Anyway, here is a random sampling of my escapade yesterday.
Before commenting cruelly, please consider that the girls are not 
professional models, and the entire affair was somewhat underorganized.
Also, these pictures are of young women wearing little (very little 
in some pictures) clothing.
If partial nudity and suggestive posing offends you, don't click the 
link.

http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/
William Robb



--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-12 Thread Caveman
More Cavo filtering:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/cf1.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/cf2.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/cf3.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/cf4.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/cf5.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/cf6.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/cf7.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/cf8.jpg
Based on original images from Bill's recent gallery.
Yes I like that hat.
Cheers !


Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-12 Thread Peter J. Alling
Some of these are improvements on the originals.  I rather like cf1 an 
cf2.  On the other hand someone has way too much time on his hands...

Caveman wrote:
More Cavo filtering:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/cf1.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/cf2.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/cf3.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/cf4.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/cf5.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/cf6.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/cf7.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/cf8.jpg
Based on original images from Bill's recent gallery.
Yes I like that hat.
Cheers !


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-12 Thread Caveman

Peter J. Alling wrote:
Some of these are improvements on the originals.  I rather like cf1 an 
cf2.
Then you'll probably like:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/cf9.jpg
too. (just uploaded it).

On the other hand someone has way too much time on his hands...
I can do this all day long. Only problem is that Wheatfield Willie 
uploaded them at dismall size. To aggravate it, he also framed quite 
low, so I need to crop the space above the model's head. So I get 
something like 400 pixels tall images to start with.

Say Bill any chance that I could get some decent res like 1024x768 ?
Cheers !


Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Caveman 
Subject: Re: When good photographers do bad things


More Cavo filtering:
Cool.
b...


Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Caveman
Subject: Re: When good photographers do bad things


Say Bill any chance that I could get some decent res like 1024x768 
?

Nope. Sorry.
William Robb 




Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-12 Thread Graywolf
The literal minded sure know how to screw up a joke.
--
Peter J. Alling wrote:
Bill's in Canada, OSHA isn't allowed to operate there, for which he 
should be eternally thankful.

Graywolf wrote:
The girl on the ladder should have been wearing steel toed boots. OSHA 
will be by to fine you for workplace safety violations.

--
William Robb wrote:
Or not.
Anyway, here is a random sampling of my escapade yesterday.
Before commenting cruelly, please consider that the girls are not 
professional models, and the entire affair was somewhat underorganized.
Also, these pictures are of young women wearing little (very little 
in some pictures) clothing.
If partial nudity and suggestive posing offends you, don't click the 
link.

http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/
William Robb



--
graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html



Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-12 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 23:15:38 -0600, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Or not.
 Anyway, here is a random sampling of my escapade yesterday.
 Before commenting cruelly, please consider that the girls are not
 professional models, and the entire affair was somewhat
 underorganized.
 Also, these pictures are of young women wearing little (very little
 in some pictures) clothing.
 If partial nudity and suggestive posing offends you, don't click the
 link.
 
 http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/
 
 William Robb
 

Keeps timing out on me.

It seems that I'm missing out on some naughty bits?

Dear me...

-frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Mishka
so, it is true: istD *is* a chick magnet!

mishka


On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 23:15:38 -0600, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Or not.
 Anyway, here is a random sampling of my escapade yesterday.
 Before commenting cruelly, please consider that the girls are not
 professional models, and the entire affair was somewhat
 underorganized.
 Also, these pictures are of young women wearing little (very little
 in some pictures) clothing.
 If partial nudity and suggestive posing offends you, don't click the
 link.
 
 http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/
 
 William Robb
 




Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
I find some of them quite nice. The topless girl with the black hat is 
stunning. Some lovely pics of her.
Paul
On Oct 11, 2004, at 1:15 AM, William Robb wrote:

Or not.
Anyway, here is a random sampling of my escapade yesterday.
Before commenting cruelly, please consider that the girls are not 
professional models, and the entire affair was somewhat 
underorganized.
Also, these pictures are of young women wearing little (very little in 
some pictures) clothing.
If partial nudity and suggestive posing offends you, don't click the 
link.

http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/
William Robb



Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Cotty
On 10/10/04, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

If partial nudity and suggestive posing offends you, don't click the 
link.

http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/

OK Robb, that does it. Now I officially hate you.




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_




Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: Re: When good photographers do bad things


I find some of them quite nice. The topless girl with the black hat 
is stunning. Some lovely pics of her.
Thanks Paul.
Bill 




Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Peter J. Alling
Subject: Re: When good photographers do bad things


Just started to look but shouldn't that be When good things happen 
to bad photographers?
After seeing my gobo sitting there big as life in some of the shots, 
the term bad photographer takes on a whole new meaning.
I forgot to mention in my first post that these are straight from the 
camera files, resized for the web.

William Robb 




Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Mishka
Subject: Re: When good photographers do bad things


so, it is true: istD *is* a chick magnet!
Yup, and that slow buffer that I have been cursing has become a bit 
of a friend.

William (Pigboy) Robb 




Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Bob Blakely
I may move back to Canada to study wild life.

Regards,
Bob...
---
No mans life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in
session.
  -- Mark Twain


From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Or not.
 Anyway, here is a random sampling of my escapade yesterday.
 Before commenting cruelly, please consider that the girls are not
 professional models, and the entire affair was somewhat
 underorganized.
 Also, these pictures are of young women wearing little (very little
 in some pictures) clothing.
 If partial nudity and suggestive posing offends you, don't click the
 link.

 http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/

 William Robb



Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread ernreed2
Mishka said:
 so, it is true: istD *is* a chick magnet!

well it certainly attracted some of the list wimmen to buy it ...

ERN



Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Lasse Karlsson
I like the look of the girl in:
IGP5534
IGP5554, etc.

as well as the girl in:
gp5323, etc.

I think some of the shots presented here would benefit from a bit of cropping that 
would move the models a bit off center of the picture.

(I also must admit to finding the many tattoos quite a bit distracting or disturbing.)

Thanks,
Lasse

- Original Message - 
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 8:15 AM
Subject: When good photographers do bad things


 Or not.
 Anyway, here is a random sampling of my escapade yesterday.
 Before commenting cruelly, please consider that the girls are not 
 professional models, and the entire affair was somewhat 
 underorganized.
 Also, these pictures are of young women wearing little (very little 
 in some pictures) clothing.
 If partial nudity and suggestive posing offends you, don't click the 
 link.
 
 http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/
 
 William Robb 



Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Dario Bonazza
And my wife is already after it. I'm not sure she can be described as a
chick, though :-)

As a side note, that's very good news, because when in 2009 or so Pentax
will finally introduce a high end DSLR, I can quickly get it and pass my
*istD to the wife.

Dario

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: When good photographers do bad things


 Mishka said:
  so, it is true: istD *is* a chick magnet!

 well it certainly attracted some of the list wimmen to buy it ...

 ERN




Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Dario Bonazza wrote on 11.10.04 17:22:

 As a side note, that's very good news, because when in 2009 or so Pentax
 will finally introduce a high end DSLR, I can quickly get it and pass my
 *istD to the wife.
Are you sure Margherita would want this outdated (then) camera? By that time
the cheapest compact digicams will have 16MPix with noise at iso3200 equal
to that at iso200 in *istD :-)

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek




Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Caveman
Lasse Karlsson wrote:
I think some of the shots presented here would benefit from a bit of cropping that would move the models a bit off center of the picture.
N ! Editorial space is good ;-) (just waiting for Cotty to use it ;-)
(I also must admit to finding the many tattoos quite a bit distracting or disturbing.)
Duh. You getting too old. Say Bill any chance of some tatoos close-ups ? ;-)


Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Caveman
While you're probably right on the MP figure, looking at current trends 
I suspect no one would ever bother to address the noise issues.

Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:
By that time
the cheapest compact digicams will have 16MPix with noise at iso3200 equal
to that at iso200 in *istD :-)



Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Caveman wrote on 11.10.04 17:51:

 While you're probably right on the MP figure, looking at current trends
 I suspect no one would ever bother to address the noise issues.
Who knows? Technology changes fast. Maybe someone will develop CCD (or CMOS
or whatever) manufacturing technology that will reduce noise significantly?

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek




Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Peter J. Alling
I'm not going to make any specific ccomments, most of these are more 
than acceptable for pose and expression, there were many that I thought 
that the composition could be improved by getting closer to the subject, 
and not centering the center of attention.  But as Cotty said, I now 
officially hate you.

William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Peter J. Alling
Subject: Re: When good photographers do bad things

Just started to look but shouldn't that be When good things happen 
to bad photographers?

After seeing my gobo sitting there big as life in some of the shots, 
the term bad photographer takes on a whole new meaning.
I forgot to mention in my first post that these are straight from the 
camera files, resized for the web.

William Robb


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Dario Bonazza
Sure I won't tell her :-)
Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: When good photographers do bad things


 Dario Bonazza wrote on 11.10.04 17:22:

  As a side note, that's very good news, because when in 2009 or so Pentax
  will finally introduce a high end DSLR, I can quickly get it and pass my
  *istD to the wife.
 Are you sure Margherita would want this outdated (then) camera? By that
time
 the cheapest compact digicams will have 16MPix with noise at iso3200 equal
 to that at iso200 in *istD :-)

 -- 
 Best Regards
 Sylwek





Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Dario Bonazza
Software will fix that, removing noise, red-eye, moles, flaws, tattoos,
eyeballs, hair and moustache from pictures, depending on your chosen
settings :-)
Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: When good photographers do bad things


 Caveman wrote on 11.10.04 17:51:

  While you're probably right on the MP figure, looking at current trends
  I suspect no one would ever bother to address the noise issues.
 Who knows? Technology changes fast. Maybe someone will develop CCD (or
CMOS
 or whatever) manufacturing technology that will reduce noise
significantly?

 -- 
 Best Regards
 Sylwek





Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Mishka
i like the eyeballs option.

mishka


On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 18:05:44 +0200, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Software will fix that, removing noise, red-eye, moles, flaws, tattoos,
 eyeballs, hair and moustache from pictures, depending on your chosen
 settings :-)
 Dario
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 5:52 PM
 Subject: Re: When good photographers do bad things
 
  Caveman wrote on 11.10.04 17:51:
 
   While you're probably right on the MP figure, looking at current trends
   I suspect no one would ever bother to address the noise issues.
  Who knows? Technology changes fast. Maybe someone will develop CCD (or
 CMOS
  or whatever) manufacturing technology that will reduce noise
 significantly?
 
  --
  Best Regards
  Sylwek
 
 
 




Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Chris Brogden
Good stuff, Bill.  I love the ones with the flag in the background.  I
guess for commerical purposes it's good to leave a lot of space for
the copywriters to do their thing, but I'm partial to closer shots
myself.

Looks like it was a pretty fun day.  :)  How'd you swing the job?  I
didn't know you advertised your services.

Chris

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 23:15:38 -0600, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Or not.
 Anyway, here is a random sampling of my escapade yesterday.
 Before commenting cruelly, please consider that the girls are not
 professional models, and the entire affair was somewhat
 underorganized.
 Also, these pictures are of young women wearing little (very little
 in some pictures) clothing.
 If partial nudity and suggestive posing offends you, don't click the
 link.
 
 http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/
 
 William Robb
 




Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Mishka
 N ! Editorial space is good ;-) (just waiting for Cotty to use it ;-)

hopefully not mark. i can imagine: and now for ms. frankenstein: what
dremel can do for your
figure in just 15 minutes...

mishka



Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/10/04, Caveman, discombobulated, unleashed:

N ! Editorial space is good ;-) (just waiting for Cotty to use it ;-)

Lack of time!




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_




Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Dario Bonazza
Noise reduction will be a thing of the past, superseded by Noise removal.
However, you'll have to ascertain to set noise removal on (while setting
nose removal off :-)

I've been told that Pentax is already working on a clothes reduction
function, useful for Bill Robb's calendar, but I'm afraid Canon will soon
introduce a Clothes Full Removal function (only made possible by their
unique hi-performance USM) built in the new EF-CFR series lenses ;°)

Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: When good photographers do bad things


 i like the eyeballs option.

 mishka


 On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 18:05:44 +0200, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  Software will fix that, removing noise, red-eye, moles, flaws, tattoos,
  eyeballs, hair and moustache from pictures, depending on your chosen
  settings :-)
  Dario
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 5:52 PM
  Subject: Re: When good photographers do bad things
 
   Caveman wrote on 11.10.04 17:51:
  
While you're probably right on the MP figure, looking at current
trends
I suspect no one would ever bother to address the noise issues.
   Who knows? Technology changes fast. Maybe someone will develop CCD (or
  CMOS
   or whatever) manufacturing technology that will reduce noise
  significantly?
  
   --
   Best Regards
   Sylwek
  
  
 
 




Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Steve Desjardins
Nice hat.  I also like the see-through camo in front of the Stars and
Bars.  




Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Bill Owens
OSHA has no jurisdiction in Canada. :-)
Bill
- Original Message - 
From: Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: When good photographers do bad things


The girl on the ladder should have been wearing steel toed boots. OSHA 
will be by to fine you for workplace safety violations.

--
William Robb wrote:
Or not.
Anyway, here is a random sampling of my escapade yesterday.
Before commenting cruelly, please consider that the girls are not 
professional models, and the entire affair was somewhat underorganized.
Also, these pictures are of young women wearing little (very little in 
some pictures) clothing.
If partial nudity and suggestive posing offends you, don't click the 
link.

http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/
William Robb

--
graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html




RE: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Dave Madsen
Several of these look quite nice.  My first big shoot with my istD was with
a professional model and I definitely found it easy to take too many photos.

-Original Message-
From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 11:16 PM
To: Pentax Discuss
Subject: When good photographers do bad things


Or not.
Anyway, here is a random sampling of my escapade yesterday.
Before commenting cruelly, please consider that the girls are not
professional models, and the entire affair was somewhat
underorganized.
Also, these pictures are of young women wearing little (very little
in some pictures) clothing.
If partial nudity and suggestive posing offends you, don't click the
link.

http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/

William Robb







RE: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Dave Madsen
Buffers full, just stand there naked for a minute while the camera catches
up  said the photog, grinning sheepishly.

-Original Message-
From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: When good photographers do bad things



- Original Message -
From: Mishka
Subject: Re: When good photographers do bad things


 so, it is true: istD *is* a chick magnet!

Yup, and that slow buffer that I have been cursing has become a bit
of a friend.

William (Pigboy) Robb







Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Dave Madsen
Subject: RE: When good photographers do bad things


Buffers full, just stand there naked for a minute while the camera 
catches
up  said the photog, grinning sheepishly.
Woops, were off in bufferland
We'll just reast for a minute..
So, you said you are from MooseJaw?
WW



Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Rob Studdert
On 11 Oct 2004 at 17:47, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:

 Are you sure Margherita would want this outdated (then) camera? By that time the
 cheapest compact digicams will have 16MPix with noise at iso3200 equal to that
 at iso200 in *istD :-)

Har, they will end up including a legacy sensitivity mode using integrated ND 
filters to simulate IE50 for making those crazy old time shallow focus shots

:-)


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Caveman
Naah, all the craze will be to find on e-bay a *film* camera then 
find some film then spend the weekend in the bathroom  developing 
it... with smuggled chemicals

Rob Studdert wrote:
Are you sure Margherita would want this outdated (then) camera? By that time the
cheapest compact digicams will have 16MPix with noise at iso3200 equal to that
at iso200 in *istD :-)

Har, they will end up including a legacy sensitivity mode using integrated ND 
filters to simulate IE50 for making those crazy old time shallow focus shots




Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl

Subject: Re: When good photographers do bad things
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 23:15:38 -0600, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Or not.
 Anyway, here is a random sampling of my escapade yesterday.
 Before commenting cruelly, please consider that the girls are not
 professional models, and the entire affair was somewhat
 underorganized.
 Also, these pictures are of young women wearing little (very little
 in some pictures) clothing.
 If partial nudity and suggestive posing offends you, don't click the
 link.

 http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/

 William Robb
Don't mean to rain on your parade, but actually, I expected better.  ;(
The corners and angles were distracting.
The poses were pretty amateur ish.  (Inexperienced models doesn't help.  I 
understand that.)
The outdoor profile shots showed off her tummy.
You've done much better with your models in the past.
I know you enjoy ta, but your skills are better than that.
(just trying to be helpful  practical)

Collin
You impress at a distance, but you impact a life up close. The closer the 
relationship the greater the impact.
Howard Hendricks



Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Caveman
OK, here some comments from the Cave (quite a few, I don't want to have 
to explain to cavewoman why I keep looking at naked pics instead of 
eating the turkey).

http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/pages/_IGP5386.html
For this to be successful, you need near perfect symmetry, I'd say that 
you composed/framed quite negligently (yes I know it was digital, it's 
so easy to press the button without double-checking everything).

http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/pages/_IGP5595.html
This would work great with some Cavo-filter, like pencil hatches. Would 
piss off Cotty to death. But I can definitely see that you're on to 
something promising ;-)

http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/pages/_igp5402.html
Now here you nearly got something interesting with that background. 
Unfortunately you were too lazy to crouch and took the shots from your 
full body height (subsequent pics are even worse).

http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/pages/_igp5905.html
I like that hat. Maybe used in the previously commented pic ?
http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/pages/_igp5977.html
Cave idea for that background: have the lady stand on top on rectangular 
thing, facing the wall. Frame to have just her legs on the support (50% 
legs 50% support) and the column at right. Nice play of vertical lines. 
Or even some wild diagonal.

Will be back after the turkey.
Cheers !
BTW any chance to take a peek at the full res versions ? ;-)




Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Collin R Brendemuehl
Subject: Re: When good photographers do bad things


Don't mean to rain on your parade, but actually, I expected better. 
;(
Sorry to dissapoint.
The corners and angles were distracting.
I think with some judicious cropping I can make them work. These are 
straight off the camera.

The poses were pretty amateur ish.  (Inexperienced models doesn't 
help.  I understand that.)
Inexperienced photographer too. I spend most of my shooting life 
taking pictures of rocks..

The outdoor profile shots showed off her tummy.
BW, but it's a cute tummy.
You've done much better with your models in the past.
I know you enjoy ta, but your skills are better than that.
(just trying to be helpful  practical)
In this case, I am taking my ta and enjoying it G
L8R
b...



Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Caveman
Just for the fun of it:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/_IGP5595a.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/_IGP5595b.jpg
Say Bill do you like the Cave-filtermatic ?


RE: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Dave Madsen
Moose Jaw?  Hmmm, no, Boise...Idaho...  

-Original Message-
From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 5:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: When good photographers do bad things


So, you said you are from MooseJaw?

WW







Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Caveman 
Subject: Re: When good photographers do bad things


Just for the fun of it:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/_IGP5595a.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/_IGP5595b.jpg
Say Bill do you like the Cave-filtermatic ?

I like b more than a.
b..


Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Dave Madsen 
Subject: RE: When good photographers do bad things


Moose Jaw?  Hmmm, no, Boise...Idaho...  
I didn't think anyone was from Boise.
WW


Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Chris Brogden
I love A.  Not crazy about B.  T, OTOH...  :)

Chris


On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 21:20:45 -0600, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Caveman
 Subject: Re: When good photographers do bad things
 
 
  Just for the fun of it:
 
  http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/_IGP5595a.jpg
 
  http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/_IGP5595b.jpg
 
  Say Bill do you like the Cave-filtermatic ?
 
 
 I like b more than a.
 b..
 




Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread Super Dave
on 10/10/04 10:15 PM, William Robb at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Or not.
 Anyway, here is a random sampling of my escapade yesterday.
 Before commenting cruelly, please consider that the girls are not
 professional models, and the entire affair was somewhat
 underorganized.
 Also, these pictures are of young women wearing little (very little
 in some pictures) clothing.
 If partial nudity and suggestive posing offends you, don't click the
 link.
 
 http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/
 
 William Robb 
 
 
You have some great ones in there...especially considering you were not
working with pros (I know how much work that can be).

Fortunately the subject matter makes up it.

I think you will have a winner of a calendar.

By the way...I really like how your use of the hat as a prop...very nice.

David



RE: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread David Madsen
Anyone on the list, or anyone in general? lol...  The funny thing is that
this is a photography town in a big way.  Idaho Camera has 5 stores in a
town of only 60k people they are full service stores with professional gear.
One even carries Hasselblad, Mamiya, and, yes even Pentax mdeium format
cameras in stock.  The #1 selling camera brand in Boise?  Pentax!  We may
not do much in Boise, but we're doing our best to keep Pentax alive.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 9:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: When good photographers do bad things



- Original Message -
From: Dave Madsen
Subject: RE: When good photographers do bad things


 Moose Jaw?  Hmmm, no, Boise...Idaho...

I didn't think anyone was from Boise.
WW




Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: David Madsen 
Subject: RE: When good photographers do bad things


Anyone on the list, or anyone in general? 
I was just funnin' you.
I've been through Boise, seemed like a nice town.
Lovely scenery close by.
Met a very nice family from there last month.
William Robb


Re: When good photographers do bad things

2004-10-10 Thread Peter J. Alling
Just started to look but shouldn't that be When good things happen to 
bad photographers?

William Robb wrote:
Or not.
Anyway, here is a random sampling of my escapade yesterday.
Before commenting cruelly, please consider that the girls are not 
professional models, and the entire affair was somewhat underorganized.
Also, these pictures are of young women wearing little (very little in 
some pictures) clothing.
If partial nudity and suggestive posing offends you, don't click the 
link.

http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/
William Robb


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I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke