RE: enlarger for scanning?

2004-06-13 Thread David Miers
Maybe, but the enlarger has a focusing ability.  I'd lay a piece of paper on
the scanner first and focus the same way I would for an easel.  Thus the
projected image would be perfectly focused on the scanner glass.  I'm
reasonable sure it can't be this easy though or somebody would be selling
this long ago.  But I keep thinking all the scanner is doing is passing the
light through from the top through the negative to the scanner sensor.  How
the scanner would react to nothing solid there though I'm not sure.
Possibly the enlarger would have to be focused on the scanner sensor itself
rather then the glass?  Most likely I'm just spinning my wheels.  However
I'm hoping someone that has an enlarger at home will actually try this and
report back to tell me how crazy I am! hint hint  8).

Dave

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You'd have focussing problems I think... it's too late to work out
exactly what they'd be though :-)

S

David Miers wrote:

>
> Has anyone ever tried using a flatbed designed for scanning negatives with
a
> chemical darkroom enlarger?  I've been tossing this idea around and think
it
> might actually work.  You would of course have to work in a dark room
> lighting type of situation here as well to avoid outside light affecting
the
> scan.  Instead of scanning a tiny negative, you would be scanning an image
> as large as a print.  Any thoughts?  I'm wondering if you would have to
get
> a different light source then is normally used in an enlarger though?  In
> the scanner bake off at James Photography a 1200 dpi scanner using a
> reflective device of some sort clearly had the best appearing image thus
> far, although the MTF numbers were the lowest.  Anyone know what kind of
> setup that is?
>
> http://www.jamesphotography.ca/bakeoff2004/scanner_test_results.html
>
> Currently the very bottom one on the list.
>
> Dave
>



RE: enlarger for scanning?

2004-06-13 Thread Jens Bladt
Intersting idea. But why use a scanner. Would it not be possible to use a
digital camera and a dedicated slide copier?
All the best

Jens Bladt
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http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


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Has anyone ever tried using a flatbed designed for scanning negatives with a
chemical darkroom enlarger?  I've been tossing this idea around and think it
might actually work.  You would of course have to work in a dark room
lighting type of situation here as well to avoid outside light affecting the
scan.  Instead of scanning a tiny negative, you would be scanning an image
as large as a print.  Any thoughts?  I'm wondering if you would have to get
a different light source then is normally used in an enlarger though?  In
the scanner bake off at James Photography a 1200 dpi scanner using a
reflective device of some sort clearly had the best appearing image thus
far, although the MTF numbers were the lowest.  Anyone know what kind of
setup that is?

http://www.jamesphotography.ca/bakeoff2004/scanner_test_results.html

Currently the very bottom one on the list.

Dave





Re: enlarger for scanning?

2004-06-13 Thread graywolf
He just scanned the test target instead of photographing it and scanning the 
film. His results are meaningless comparing them to the rest. Also note, without 
reading deeply, it seems that the tests also reflect the film and lens used by 
each tester. In other words like a lot of well meaning tests you can determine 
nothing from these as they are not sufficiently standardized.

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David Miers wrote:
Has anyone ever tried using a flatbed designed for scanning negatives with a
chemical darkroom enlarger?  I've been tossing this idea around and think it
might actually work.  You would of course have to work in a dark room
lighting type of situation here as well to avoid outside light affecting the
scan.  Instead of scanning a tiny negative, you would be scanning an image
as large as a print.  Any thoughts?  I'm wondering if you would have to get
a different light source then is normally used in an enlarger though?  In
the scanner bake off at James Photography a 1200 dpi scanner using a
reflective device of some sort clearly had the best appearing image thus
far, although the MTF numbers were the lowest.  Anyone know what kind of
setup that is?
http://www.jamesphotography.ca/bakeoff2004/scanner_test_results.html
Currently the very bottom one on the list.
Dave

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graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html