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Exactly. When I first commented on the photo I wanted to see more detail in the highlights. I haven't totally changed my mind, but I do see how the highlights give it a somewhat haunting image, which works in this photo. David Madsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.davidmadsen.com -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 11:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: first post XP-2 and PAW The nicest thing about this is exemplified in just this situation: a couple of people like something, others don't, but what the dialogue does, at least for me, is to allow one to take another look at a photograph through, as it were, another's eyes, perhaps seeing something that was overlooked, or seeing the same thing differently, and, in so doing, perhaps learn something or expand one's vision. David Madsen wrote: I couldn't agree more, Frank. That we all have different opinions is why this is fun. As for blown out highlights, sometimes they add to the photo, sometimes they don't. David Madsen
Re: first post XP-2 and PAW
...and in the process, Shel learned I'm still right, and frank's dead wrong! LOL! -frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: first post XP-2 and PAW Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 22:22:36 -0800 The nicest thing about this is exemplified in just this situation: a couple of people like something, others don't, but what the dialogue does, at least for me, is to allow one to take another look at a photograph through, as it were, another's eyes, perhaps seeing something that was overlooked, or seeing the same thing differently, and, in so doing, perhaps learn something or expand one's vision. _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
RE: first post XP-2 and PAW
...of course, I'd ~never~ say that I like blown out highlights in someone else's photo, just because I've taken so many photos with the highlights inadvertantly blown out by overexposure, after which I've pawned off the print as artsty. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2069022 Uh, yeah, I was going for the 'haunting' look. Yeah haunting, that's the ticket. vbg -frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: David Madsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: first post XP-2 and PAW Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 07:24:15 -0700 Exactly. When I first commented on the photo I wanted to see more detail in the highlights. I haven't totally changed my mind, but I do see how the highlights give it a somewhat haunting image, which works in this photo. _ http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
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On 10 Mar 2004 at 18:09, frank theriault wrote: ...of course, I'd ~never~ say that I like blown out highlights in someone else's photo, just because I've taken so many photos with the highlights inadvertantly blown out by overexposure, after which I've pawned off the print as artsty. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2069022 Uh, yeah, I was going for the 'haunting' look. Yeah haunting, that's the ticket. I saw a documentary on a young Sydney photographer Trent Parke a week ago, one of his current projects is shooting city folk in shafts of light to great a haunting look, see: http://www.canvas-art.nl/stock/artists/parkeautio/images/trent2.html Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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Rob, That is so freaking wild! I like that a lot. thanks, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] I saw a documentary on a young Sydney photographer Trent Parke a week ago, one of his current projects is shooting city folk in shafts of light to great a haunting look, see: http://www.canvas-art.nl/stock/artists/parkeautio/images/trent2.html Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 _ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
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Me Too! frank theriault wrote: Rob, That is so freaking wild! I like that a lot. thanks, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] I saw a documentary on a young Sydney photographer Trent Parke a week ago, one of his current projects is shooting city folk in shafts of light to great a haunting look, see: http://www.canvas-art.nl/stock/artists/parkeautio/images/trent2.html Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 _ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
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Frank ... too static ... this artsy fartsy phase of yours is gonna get you a lot of commissions for OOF work and photos with no highlight detail. You're on your way the the Big Time! frank theriault wrote: I've taken so many photos with the highlights inadvertantly blown out by overexposure, after which I've pawned off the print as artsty. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2069022
Re: first post XP-2 and PAW
Well, Frank, I have to admit there's a lot of truth in what you say LOL frank theriault wrote: ...and in the process, Shel learned I'm still right, and frank's dead wrong! LOL! The nicest thing about this is exemplified in just this situation: a couple of people like something, others don't, but what the dialogue does, at least for me, is to allow one to take another look at a photograph through, as it were, another's eyes, perhaps seeing something that was overlooked, or seeing the same thing differently, and, in so doing, perhaps learn something or expand one's vision.
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Hi, Glad you could join in the PAW. I took a quick look at your photo and was concerned about the lack of detail in the highlights, the area outside. It detracts from the photo, imo. I like what you're doing though, and would love to see more pics of the old mill. Documenting these places is, perhaps, a very important thing to do ... keeping a record of community and history. Why are you unsure you'll be continuing to use XP-2? shel Clint Austin wrote: Hello, My name is Joseph Austin, I have lurked here for quite a while. Shel's photo and comments about XP-2 (plus the aquisition of a film scanner finally)!! led me to post my first PAW. I purchased XP-2 exclusively for scanning. After hearing horror stories about scanning regular black and white ( plus no longer having access to a darkroom) XP-2 fit the niche for me. Still I am not sure whether I will continue using this film. However I think this roll was alright. Please checkout the photo, it is part of a series in an old textile mill located in southwest Virginia. Let me know what you think. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2193789
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The contrast might have been a just little lower, allowing the exterior to have a little more detail, but I like the shot. David Madsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.davidmadsen.com -Original Message- From: Clint Austin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 6:03 PM To: PDML Subject: first post XP-2 and PAW From: Clint Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Date: Monday, March 08, 2004 9:12 PM Hello, My name is Joseph Austin, I have lurked here for quite a while. Shel's photo and comments about XP-2 (plus the aquisition of a film scanner finally)!! led me to post my first PAW. I purchased XP-2 exclusively for scanning. After hearing horror stories about scanning regular black and white ( plus no longer having access to a darkroom) XP-2 fit the niche for me. Still I am not sure whether I will continue using this film. However I think this roll was alright. Please checkout the photo, it is part of a series in an old textile mill located in southwest Virginia. Let me know what you think. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2193789
RE: first post XP-2 and PAW
I couldn't agree more, Frank. That we all have different opinions is why this is fun. As for blown out highlights, sometimes they add to the photo, sometimes they don't. David Madsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.davidmadsen.com -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: first post XP-2 and PAW Shel, Funny, but, as you can see from my previous post, it's those blown out highlights from outside that I like! Adds to a ghostly feel appropriate to an abandoned factory, IMHO. Go figure, eh? What a boring place this would be if we all saw things the same way! vbg cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: first post XP-2 and PAW Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 17:31:12 -0800 Hi, Glad you could join in the PAW. I took a quick look at your photo and was concerned about the lack of detail in the highlights, the area outside. It detracts from the photo, imo. I like what you're doing though, and would love to see more pics of the old mill. Documenting these places is, perhaps, a very important thing to do ... keeping a record of community and history. Why are you unsure you'll be continuing to use XP-2? _ MSN Premium with Virus Guard and Firewall* from McAfee® Security : 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=htt p://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: first post XP-2 and PAW
The nicest thing about this is exemplified in just this situation: a couple of people like something, others don't, but what the dialogue does, at least for me, is to allow one to take another look at a photograph through, as it were, another's eyes, perhaps seeing something that was overlooked, or seeing the same thing differently, and, in so doing, perhaps learn something or expand one's vision. David Madsen wrote: I couldn't agree more, Frank. That we all have different opinions is why this is fun. As for blown out highlights, sometimes they add to the photo, sometimes they don't. David Madsen
