RE: stolen pic - it finally happened to me
From: Ann Sanfedele I just got this email... Hi Ann, It's David Siegel the husband of Andrea Siegel, a Scrabble player you may remember from 30+ years ago. In Friday's Daily News there is a picture that you took about 30 years ago of our daughter Caryn that appeared in Time magazine, as I'm sure you recall. The name credited is not yours. Thought you might be interested. Hope all is well. Dave Anyone have Friday's NY Daily news?? Anyone know anyone on the city desk? The photo was one I won honorable mention for in a Time mag contest about the spirit of competition - George Plimpton was the judge. It was in a special advertising section of TIme mag that was only sent to subscribers. who shall I call at the News? ann I'm not sure that counts as stolen. What were the rules of the Time Magazine contest? You'll have to see what rights you granted Time Magazine when you entered their contest. The NY Daily News may have acquired the image lawfully. I think about the best you can hope for is a correction notice from the NY Daily News properly attributing the photo to you. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: stolen pic - it finally happened to me
As it turns out, John, the photo wasn't mine. They used a photo of her someone else took a few years later. While I was on the phone with the city desk the father sent me a scan of the article. I guess his gray cells are in worse shape than mine. The issue was not that they printed without permission, but that someone else got the photo credit. The city desk guy was immediately following up on it to find the article - they were definitely going to make it right, if it had been mine - which was heartening. ann On 10/28/2012 10:44, John Sessoms wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele I just got this email... Hi Ann, It's David Siegel the husband of Andrea Siegel, a Scrabble player you may remember from 30+ years ago. In Friday's Daily News there is a picture that you took about 30 years ago of our daughter Caryn that appeared in Time magazine, as I'm sure you recall. The name credited is not yours. Thought you might be interested. Hope all is well. Dave Anyone have Friday's NY Daily news?? Anyone know anyone on the city desk? The photo was one I won honorable mention for in a Time mag contest about the spirit of competition - George Plimpton was the judge. It was in a special advertising section of TIme mag that was only sent to subscribers. who shall I call at the News? ann I'm not sure that counts as stolen. What were the rules of the Time Magazine contest? You'll have to see what rights you granted Time Magazine when you entered their contest. The NY Daily News may have acquired the image lawfully. I think about the best you can hope for is a correction notice from the NY Daily News properly attributing the photo to you. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: stolen pic - it finally happened to me
I've entered contests that limited my retained image rights only to photo credit, but allowed the contest sponsors freedom to otherwise use the image at their discretion. Obviously, in this case your retained photo credit rights (?) were ignored. Jack - Original Message - From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:44 AM Subject: RE: stolen pic - it finally happened to me From: Ann Sanfedele I just got this email... Hi Ann, It's David Siegel the husband of Andrea Siegel, a Scrabble player you may remember from 30+ years ago. In Friday's Daily News there is a picture that you took about 30 years ago of our daughter Caryn that appeared in Time magazine, as I'm sure you recall. The name credited is not yours. Thought you might be interested. Hope all is well. Dave Anyone have Friday's NY Daily news?? Anyone know anyone on the city desk? The photo was one I won honorable mention for in a Time mag contest about the spirit of competition - George Plimpton was the judge. It was in a special advertising section of TIme mag that was only sent to subscribers. who shall I call at the News? ann I'm not sure that counts as stolen. What were the rules of the Time Magazine contest? You'll have to see what rights you granted Time Magazine when you entered their contest. The NY Daily News may have acquired the image lawfully. I think about the best you can hope for is a correction notice from the NY Daily News properly attributing the photo to you. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: stolen pic - it finally happened to me
Wish I'd read this post prior to sending my retard comments. Hope your recovery is generous. Jack - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:57 AM Subject: Re: stolen pic - it finally happened to me As it turns out, John, the photo wasn't mine. They used a photo of her someone else took a few years later. While I was on the phone with the city desk the father sent me a scan of the article. I guess his gray cells are in worse shape than mine. The issue was not that they printed without permission, but that someone else got the photo credit. The city desk guy was immediately following up on it to find the article - they were definitely going to make it right, if it had been mine - which was heartening. ann On 10/28/2012 10:44, John Sessoms wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele I just got this email... Hi Ann, It's David Siegel the husband of Andrea Siegel, a Scrabble player you may remember from 30+ years ago. In Friday's Daily News there is a picture that you took about 30 years ago of our daughter Caryn that appeared in Time magazine, as I'm sure you recall. The name credited is not yours. Thought you might be interested. Hope all is well. Dave Anyone have Friday's NY Daily news?? Anyone know anyone on the city desk? The photo was one I won honorable mention for in a Time mag contest about the spirit of competition - George Plimpton was the judge. It was in a special advertising section of TIme mag that was only sent to subscribers. who shall I call at the News? ann I'm not sure that counts as stolen. What were the rules of the Time Magazine contest? You'll have to see what rights you granted Time Magazine when you entered their contest. The NY Daily News may have acquired the image lawfully. I think about the best you can hope for is a correction notice from the NY Daily News properly attributing the photo to you. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: stolen pic - it finally happened to me
Call the photo desk editor. The switchboard should be able to hook you up. I suspect they'll pay you. If it was the Times, it would be $150. I suspect the News pays at a similar rate. Paul On Oct 27, 2012, at 3:44 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I just got this email... Hi Ann, It's David Siegel the husband of Andrea Siegel, a Scrabble player you may remember from 30+ years ago. In Friday's Daily News there is a picture that you took about 30 years ago of our daughter Caryn that appeared in Time magazine, as I'm sure you recall. The name credited is not yours. Thought you might be interested. Hope all is well. Dave Anyone have Friday's NY Daily news?? Anyone know anyone on the city desk? The photo was one I won honorable mention for in a Time mag contest about the spirit of competition - George Plimpton was the judge. It was in a special advertising section of TIme mag that was only sent to subscribers. who shall I call at the News? ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: stolen pic - it finally happened to me
david jsut wrote and said he didn't see the pic on line and he had only one copy.. he is scanning and sendingit to me in email... I'm going to look at the magazine to see if it was just someone's editorial mistake... Since it was a Time contest, I may have allowed future use for ads - but this actually ahd someone elses name. I want to see if it was one of the other contest winners whose photo appeared near mine in the ad section. At the VERY least I want the credti - I have sold the photo since and other photos of her taken the same day. It isn't on my website - so it wasn't an internet steal. Yeah, I'm definitely going to call the paper. ann On 10/27/2012 16:56, Paul Stenquist wrote: Call the photo desk editor. The switchboard should be able to hook you up. I suspect they'll pay you. If it was the Times, it would be $150. I suspect the News pays at a similar rate. Paul On Oct 27, 2012, at 3:44 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I just got this email... Hi Ann, It's David Siegel the husband of Andrea Siegel, a Scrabble player you may remember from 30+ years ago. In Friday's Daily News there is a picture that you took about 30 years ago of our daughter Caryn that appeared in Time magazine, as I'm sure you recall. The name credited is not yours. Thought you might be interested. Hope all is well. Dave Anyone have Friday's NY Daily news?? Anyone know anyone on the city desk? The photo was one I won honorable mention for in a Time mag contest about the spirit of competition - George Plimpton was the judge. It was in a special advertising section of TIme mag that was only sent to subscribers. who shall I call at the News? ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: stolen pic - it finally happened to me NOT!!
As it turns out, the father of the little girl misremembered. Although the photo is of his daughter, it was taken by someone else I'd say about 4 or 5 years later... I did talk to the city desk at Daily News and it was a nice chat... The photo that was not mine was not so good, either. phew! ann On 10/27/2012 17:01, Ann Sanfedele wrote: david jsut wrote and said he didn't see the pic on line and he had only one copy.. he is scanning and sendingit to me in email... I'm going to look at the magazine to see if it was just someone's editorial mistake... Since it was a Time contest, I may have allowed future use for ads - but this actually ahd someone elses name. I want to see if it was one of the other contest winners whose photo appeared near mine in the ad section. At the VERY least I want the credti - I have sold the photo since and other photos of her taken the same day. It isn't on my website - so it wasn't an internet steal. Yeah, I'm definitely going to call the paper. ann On 10/27/2012 16:56, Paul Stenquist wrote: Call the photo desk editor. The switchboard should be able to hook you up. I suspect they'll pay you. If it was the Times, it would be $150. I suspect the News pays at a similar rate. Paul On Oct 27, 2012, at 3:44 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I just got this email... Hi Ann, It's David Siegel the husband of Andrea Siegel, a Scrabble player you may remember from 30+ years ago. In Friday's Daily News there is a picture that you took about 30 years ago of our daughter Caryn that appeared in Time magazine, as I'm sure you recall. The name credited is not yours. Thought you might be interested. Hope all is well. Dave Anyone have Friday's NY Daily news?? Anyone know anyone on the city desk? The photo was one I won honorable mention for in a Time mag contest about the spirit of competition - George Plimpton was the judge. It was in a special advertising section of TIme mag that was only sent to subscribers. who shall I call at the News? ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
