Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-26 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote:

 One between K-x and K-7 and the other above K-7. 

Does anyone know what the current sensor options (presumably from Sony)
für those cameras would be?

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Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-26 Thread Adam Maas
2010/7/26 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de:
 Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote:

 One between K-x and K-7 and the other above K-7.

 Does anyone know what the current sensor options (presumably from Sony)
 für those cameras would be?

 Ralf


Sony has a 14.6MP CMOS sensor (in the A450, A550 and NEX-3/5) and the
12MP sensor from the K-x (and A500). There's also a rumoured new
sensor or two coming, one at 16MP (rumoured for the Nikon D90
replacement) and rumours of an 18MP one (rmoured in one of the
stringer A700 replacement rumours).

I'd expect it will be the 14MP one from the A450/A550. It's a proven
sensor with almost as good high ISO performance as the K-x's sensor

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Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
Yes, but the other half of the sensor lies along the imaginary axis . . .


 We get full frame?  ;-)


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Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread John Sessoms

From: P. J. Alling
Finally some rumors to stimulate discussion.  Oh, hell who'm I kidding, 
old news really, just from a new source.  The only thing I see as 
different is I expected a K-7 replacement.  I think Pentax has been 
selling a lot of K-x cameras but not a lot of K-7 cameras.  I expect the 
new, (K-5?), was originally slated to replace the K-7 and will when K-7 
camera stocks are sold out. So I guess I'm predicting deep discounts on 
the K-7.


Ok, so the K-5 supersedes the K-7, and by inference will be replaced 
in turn by the K-3 the following year (counting down odd numbers)


... but what do they do after they get to the K-1?

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Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 22, 2010, at 12:22 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

 From: P. J. Alling
 Finally some rumors to stimulate discussion.  Oh, hell who'm I kidding, old 
 news really, just from a new source.  The only thing I see as different is I 
 expected a K-7 replacement.  I think Pentax has been selling a lot of K-x 
 cameras but not a lot of K-7 cameras.  I expect the new, (K-5?), was 
 originally slated to replace the K-7 and will when K-7 camera stocks are 
 sold out. So I guess I'm predicting deep discounts on the K-7.
 
 Ok, so the K-5 supersedes the K-7, and by inference will be replaced in 
 turn by the K-3 the following year (counting down odd numbers)
 
 ... but what do they do after they get to the K-1?


K-7, K-5, K-3, K-1, K+1, K+3 
 
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Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 ... but what do they do after they get to the K-1?

 K-7, K-5, K-3, K-1, K+1, K+3 

I'm holding out for a K3+2i.  It may be too complex for the average
photographer, though.

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Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread gldnbearz
We get full frame?  ;-)

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 Ok, so the K-5 supersedes the K-7, and by inference will be replaced in
 turn by the K-3 the following year (counting down odd numbers)

 ... but what do they do after they get to the K-1?

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Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread Igor Roshchin

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Thu Jul 22 14:37:14 CDT 2010 Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Larry Colen lrc at red4est.com wrote:

  ... but what do they do after they get to the K-1?
 
  K-7, K-5, K-3, K-1, K+1, K+3 
 
 I'm holding out for a K3+2i.  It may be too complex for the average
 photographer, though.


At least it won't be transcendental.

(that might be preserved for the full frame :-) )

Igor


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RE: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread J.C. O'Connell
A K-FFD would be nice, you can guess the main upgrade feature on that one.

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On Jul 22, 2010, at 12:22 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

 From: P. J. Alling
 Finally some rumors to stimulate discussion.  Oh, hell who'm I 
 kidding, old news really, just from a new source.  The only thing I 
 see as different is I expected a K-7 replacement.  I think Pentax has 
 been selling a lot of K-x cameras but not a lot of K-7 cameras.  I 
 expect the new, (K-5?), was originally slated to replace the K-7 and 
 will when K-7 camera stocks are sold out. So I guess I'm predicting 
 deep discounts on the K-7.
 
 Ok, so the K-5 supersedes the K-7, and by inference will be replaced 
 in turn by the K-3 the following year (counting down odd numbers)
 
 ... but what do they do after they get to the K-1?


K-7, K-5, K-3, K-1, K+1, K+3 
 
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Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread P. J. Alling

On 7/22/2010 3:22 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: P. J. Alling
Finally some rumors to stimulate discussion.  Oh, hell who'm I 
kidding, old news really, just from a new source.  The only thing I 
see as different is I expected a K-7 replacement.  I think Pentax has 
been selling a lot of K-x cameras but not a lot of K-7 cameras.  I 
expect the new, (K-5?), was originally slated to replace the K-7 and 
will when K-7 camera stocks are sold out. So I guess I'm predicting 
deep discounts on the K-7.


Ok, so the K-5 supersedes the K-7, and by inference will be replaced 
in turn by the K-3 the following year (counting down odd numbers)


... but what do they do after they get to the K-1?



Obviously, the L series, everyone keeps wishing for a new L-x...

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Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread P. J. Alling

On 7/22/2010 3:38 PM, gldnbearz wrote:

We get full frame?  ;-)

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:22 PM, John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com  wrote:
   

Ok, so the K-5 supersedes the K-7, and by inference will be replaced in
turn by the K-3 the following year (counting down odd numbers)

... but what do they do after they get to the K-1?

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We already have full frame, aps-c...

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Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

 Obviously, the L series, everyone keeps wishing for a new L-x...

Am I really the only one dreaming of a digital MX?

Ralf

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Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread Toralf Lund

Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

  

... but what do they do after they get to the K-1?
  

K-7, K-5, K-3, K-1, K+1, K+3 



I'm holding out for a K3+2i.  It may be too complex for the average
photographer, though.
  

:-)

I'm wondering if even your joke is too complex...

- T




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Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread Toralf Lund

Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

  

Obviously, the L series, everyone keeps wishing for a new L-x...



Am I really the only one dreaming of a digital MX?
  

No...

Ralf

  



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Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:56 +0200, Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de
wrote:
 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Obviously, the L series, everyone keeps wishing for a new L-x...
 
 Am I really the only one dreaming of a digital MX?
 


Probably not, but I find the M series a bit too small.  My favourite of
the early K-mount mechanical cameras is the KX.

So, I'd like to see a digital KX.

Oh, wait.



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Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread P. J. Alling

On 7/22/2010 5:56 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com  wrote:

   

Obviously, the L series, everyone keeps wishing for a new L-x...
 

Am I really the only one dreaming of a digital MX?

Ralf

   

That comes in the next series...

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Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread paul stenquist

On Jul 22, 2010, at 3:38 PM, gldnbearz wrote:

 We get full frame?  ;-)

When Birnam Wood comes to Dunsinane Hill or, alternatively, when hades 
experiences that cold snap.
Paul

 
 On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:22 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
 Ok, so the K-5 supersedes the K-7, and by inference will be replaced in
 turn by the K-3 the following year (counting down odd numbers)
 
 ... but what do they do after they get to the K-1?
 
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Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread paul stenquist

On Jul 22, 2010, at 5:56 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Obviously, the L series, everyone keeps wishing for a new L-x...
 
 Am I really the only one dreaming of a digital MX?
 
Yes.
Paul

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Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread Rick Womer
Dunno, but the camera has to be imaginary.

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  I'm holding out for a K3+2i.  It may be too
 complex for the average
  photographer, though.
    
 :-)
 
 I'm wondering if even your joke is too complex...
 
 - T
 



  


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Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread Peter Loveday

A K-FFD would be nice, you can guess the main upgrade feature on that one.


Aperture Simulator? ducks :)

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Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-19 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote:

 One between K-x and K-7 and the other above K-7. 

One above the K-7. Presumably with a Sony sensor.  *sigh*

Well, it had to happen, sooner or later. Guess I'll be kicking myself
even harder, three times a day, for having bought this freak of a K-7.
:-/

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Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Finally some rumors to stimulate discussion.  Oh, hell who'm I kidding, 
old news really, just from a new source.  The only thing I see as 
different is I expected a K-7 replacement.  I think Pentax has been 
selling a lot of K-x cameras but not a lot of K-7 cameras.  I expect the 
new, (K-5?), was originally slated to replace the K-7 and will when K-7 
camera stocks are sold out. So I guess I'm predicting deep discounts on 
the K-7.


On 7/19/2010 7:04 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:

According to the reliable Spanish site quesabesde:

http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/pentax-prepara-lanzamiento-dos-slr-photokina,1_6552


One between K-x and K-7 and the other above K-7. No more detail I am afraid.

Still no FF though.

Regards,

Jaume





   



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Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-19 Thread P N Stenquist


On Jul 19, 2010, at 8:46 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

Finally some rumors to stimulate discussion.  Oh, hell who'm I  
kidding, old news really, just from a new source.  The only thing I  
see as different is I expected a K-7 replacement.  I think Pentax  
has been selling a lot of K-x cameras but not a lot of K-7 cameras.   
I expect the new, (K-5?), was originally slated to replace the K-7  
and will when K-7 camera stocks are sold out. So I guess I'm  
predicting deep discounts on the K-7.


Remember, the K7 wasn't marketed as a K20 replacement either.  
Replacements aren't always a good marketing strategy. However, k20  
production ceased long before the K7 hit the stores, and I suspect the  
same thing will happen this time.

Paul



On 7/19/2010 7:04 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:

According to the reliable Spanish site quesabesde:

http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/pentax-prepara-lanzamiento-dos-slr-photokina,1_6552


One between K-x and K-7 and the other above K-7. No more detail I  
am afraid.


Still no FF though.

Regards,

Jaume









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Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-19 Thread P N Stenquist


On Jul 19, 2010, at 7:33 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:


Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote:


One between K-x and K-7 and the other above K-7.


One above the K-7. Presumably with a Sony sensor.  *sigh*

Well, it had to happen, sooner or later. Guess I'll be kicking myself
even harder, three times a day, for having bought this freak of a K-7.
:-/



I won't be kicking myself, but I'll probably replace my K20 backup  
with the new camera at some point. The K7 continues to serve me very  
well, far better than any of the previous Pentax digitals I've owned.

Paul



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