Re: 7 mega pixels

2004-09-22 Thread Peter J. Alling
You can also shoot yourself in the foot, don't need no Goliath for 
that.  Back in the dark ages of computing,
Osborn maker of the Osborn One, a very popular lugable, (pre-Compaq if I 
remember correctly), announced
a new model that corrected all of the shortcomings of that computer, 
only problem was they had a warehouse full
of Osborn Ones.  The results were Predictable. Potential customers put 
off their purchases for the new computer. Cash flow
dried up.  The new computer was delayed. ( Say, I can probably get 
someone a deal on Osborn Ones).  It's a cautionary tail
that I'm sure is remembered in many Corporate Boardrooms. 

William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Waterson
Subject: Re: 7 mega pixels

 

I am not claiming they should be at the forefront, just to let end
   

users
 

know what they may, or maynot be developing (exuse the pun).
   

It would be nice, but companies nowadays find that they have to play
their cards pretty close or they get one upped before they even hit
the market, especially when the competition is a Goliath, relatively
speaking.
I think you had best look at Pentax as always being a couple of
generations back from the technological edge.
William Robb

 


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During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
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Re: 7 mega pixels

2004-09-22 Thread Peter J. Alling
I would have pointed that out but what's the point.
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - 
From: Dave Madsen
Subject: RE: 7 mega pixels

 

but the fact is that we
have already met/surpassed 35mm so at this point it becomes more of
   

a status
 

symbol than a real improvement.
   

I think your fact is not factual.
William Robb

 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




RE: 7 mega pixels

2004-09-19 Thread Dave Madsen
I remember when Kodak was selling one megapixel cameras in Nikon and Canon
bodies for $20,000.  Now you can get 6 megapixels for under a grand.  There
will always be something better around the corner but the fact is that we
have already met/surpassed 35mm so at this point it becomes more of a status
symbol than a real improvement.  I wish they  would spend more time working
on making better 4 way controllers, more accurate auto flash exposure, and
better placed CF card doors.

-Original Message-
From: Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 6:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: 7 mega pixels


Exactly the reason I'm strongly leaning towards Canon.  However I am also
concerned from a business and practicality standpoint about value for the
dollar.  Pentax has provided a very good value in the past.  Canon and Nikon
typically have higher costs from what I've seen in the past.  But for
someone like myself trying to work their way into professional work it's a
tough decision when you know that editors are accepting files from a 6 MP
camera now, but may well up the requirement to 8 or more in the near future
especially with Canon's release of the EOS20D.  Canon's moves to target the
consumer, prosumer, as well as professional markets make them very
attractive right now.

 -Original Message-
 From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 8:03 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: 7 mega pixels



 - Original Message -
 From: Kevin Waterson
 Subject: 7 mega pixels


  People like me need to make
  business decisions based on emerging technology.

 Then buy a Canon.
 Pentax long ago lost any claim to being on the forfront of emerging
 technology.
 OTOH, if all you want to do is make nice pictures, they are a good
 choice.

 William Robb








Re: 7 mega pixels

2004-09-19 Thread Graywolf
Indeed, 6mp was the grail sought by Kodak for years as they felt that 
was what was required for a double page magazine spread at the usual 
halftone reproduction.

--
Paul Stenquist wrote:
On Sep 18, 2004, at 10:07 PM, Kevin Waterson wrote:
 Perhaps it is the
changing business environment that sees my customers beginning to
demand higher resolution digital images that is the driving force
behind my anxiety.

Will they require more than a 72 megabyte 8-bit file? I know of no one 
in any medium who asks for more resolution than this. And you can 
provide that quite readily with the *istD. For any kind of magazine 
reproduction or stock house use the *ist D is totally capable of meeting 
current requirements.
Paul





Re: 7 mega pixels

2004-09-19 Thread Tom Reese
Kevin Waterson felt left behind when he wrote:

It urks me that there is a 7 megapixel PS, Optio750Z, but the
'flagship' is but a mere 6. Any rumours on when we can expect the
next leap forward?
Will there be another leap forward for pentax in DSLRs?
Are there enough Pentax users to justify a 12 Mp offering?
With the 12 Mp offerings by others, I am for the first time
thinking of jumping ship. I sorta feel like I am being kept
in the dark as to what Pentax is doing. If more info was
available, like, 8Mp *istD to be released in Feb or something.
Even a release to say 'Pentax will no longer release DSLRs'.
Just to know would be nice. People like me need to make
business decisions based on emerging technology.

Pentax already makes cameras that yield 20 million pixel digital images if
you use them right.

http://pic.templetons.com/brad/photo/pixels.html

Tom Reese



Re: 7 mega pixels

2004-09-19 Thread Caveman
Don't bother. If your sole concern is ultimate image quality, get a 
Sinar and shoot 8x10 sheets.
Digital is all about convenience, it's the same tradeoff you make when 
chosing a 35mm SLR over a viewcamera. Some more or less pixels ain't the 
important part.

Tom Reese wrote:
Kevin Waterson felt left behind when he wrote:
It urks me that there is a 7 megapixel PS, Optio750Z, but the
'flagship' is but a mere 6. Any rumours on when we can expect the
next leap forward?
Will there be another leap forward for pentax in DSLRs?
Are there enough Pentax users to justify a 12 Mp offering?
With the 12 Mp offerings by others, I am for the first time
thinking of jumping ship. I sorta feel like I am being kept
in the dark as to what Pentax is doing. If more info was
available, like, 8Mp *istD to be released in Feb or something.
Even a release to say 'Pentax will no longer release DSLRs'.
Just to know would be nice. People like me need to make
business decisions based on emerging technology.
Pentax already makes cameras that yield 20 million pixel digital images if
you use them right.
http://pic.templetons.com/brad/photo/pixels.html
Tom Reese