Re: Amazing astro photos

[Ken Waller]

There is a difference between "Photoshop being allowed" and Photoshop 
being

used in a less-than-honest method.


Seems to me when Photoshop is allowed it's Katie bar the doors unless very 
specific limits are stated.



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- Original Message - 
From: "Darren Addy" <pixelsmi...@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: Amazing astro photos


There is a difference between "Photoshop being allowed" and Photoshop 
being

used in a less-than-honest method.

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Darren Addy <pixelsmi...@gmail.com> 
wrote:



I came here to also say this. In almost these exact words.


On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 4:07 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@mac.com>
wrote:

Great pics. But a fork, a spoon and a moon appears to be a photoshop 
job.

The tree branches are seen in silhouette but the bird is nicely
illuminated. By what? Especially against the moon background, which 
would

have required a sunny 16 exposure. Ain't gonna happen.
Paul

Paul via phone

> On Jul 27, 2016, at 4:58 PM, Henk Terhell <hterh...@chello.nl> wrote:
>
> Stunning pictures!
>
> Henk
>
> PS: (the other one of course is 2x "will be"" )
>
> Op 2016-07-27 om 22:26 schreef Mark Roberts:
>> Gonz wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Mark Roberts
>>> <postmas...@robertstech.com> wrote:
>>>> The photographs on the short list for this year's Astronomy
>>>> Photographer of the Year:
>>>>
https://www.theguardian.com/science/gallery/2016/jul/27/astronomy-photographer-of-the-year-2016-shortlist-in-pictures
>>>> (Trivia: Find the mistake in the captions on that web page.)
>>> The shadow of Mauna Kea (they misspelled it)  is my favorite.
>> I missed that one! There's another... 



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Re: Amazing astro photos

[Darren Addy]

There is a difference between "Photoshop being allowed" and Photoshop being
used in a less-than-honest method.

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:

> I came here to also say this. In almost these exact words.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 4:07 PM, Paul Stenquist 
> wrote:
>
>> Great pics. But a fork, a spoon and a moon appears to be a photoshop job.
>> The tree branches are seen in silhouette but the bird is nicely
>> illuminated. By what? Especially against the moon background, which would
>> have required a sunny 16 exposure. Ain't gonna happen.
>> Paul
>>
>> Paul via phone
>>
>> > On Jul 27, 2016, at 4:58 PM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
>> >
>> > Stunning pictures!
>> >
>> > Henk
>> >
>> > PS: (the other one of course is 2x "will be"" )
>> >
>> > Op 2016-07-27 om 22:26 schreef Mark Roberts:
>> >> Gonz wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Mark Roberts
>> >>>  wrote:
>>  The photographs on the short list for this year's Astronomy
>>  Photographer of the Year:
>> 
>> https://www.theguardian.com/science/gallery/2016/jul/27/astronomy-photographer-of-the-year-2016-shortlist-in-pictures
>>  (Trivia: Find the mistake in the captions on that web page.)
>> >>> The shadow of Mauna Kea (they misspelled it)  is my favorite.
>> >> I missed that one! There's another...
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Re: Amazing astro photos

[John]

Didn't say it WAS done that way, only that it COULD be done that way.

With "today's super-low-noise sensors" you could use a low flash power
and mask off portions of the Fresnel lens to make the circle of light
illuminating the bird small enough to not light the trees.

I shoot the scene first without the flash & bracket the hell out of it.

Then try it again with the Better Beamer. I'd try to mask it so it just
barely illuminated the bird's body.

That way, if the flash spooked the bird, I'd still have the first round
available to work with.


On 7/28/2016 4:08 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

John wrote:


You could probably do it with a Better Beamer.

http://www.digitalcamerareview.com/review/better-beamer-flash-extender-review/


Not without illuminating at least part of the tree. I mean, the Better
Beamer narrows down the field illuminated by the flash a lot, but it
can't be *that* specific!

If you look carefully at the bird's back you'll notice a dark
"anti-halo" inside the outline of the body. This appears to me to be
the edge of the selection he made before brightening the bird in
Photoshop. With today's super-low-noise sensors you could find enough
information in the shadows to pull out the level of detail seen in
this shot. The noisiness/blotchiness of the bird's body is what lead
me to the conclusion that's how it was done.


On 7/27/2016 5:07 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Great pics. But a fork, a spoon and a moon appears to be a photoshop
job. The tree branches are seen in silhouette but the bird is nicely
illuminated. By what? Especially against the moon background, which
would have required a sunny 16 exposure. Ain't gonna happen. Paul

Paul via phone


On Jul 27, 2016, at 4:58 PM, Henk Terhell 
wrote:

Stunning pictures!

Henk

PS: (the other one of course is 2x "will be"" )

Op 2016-07-27 om 22:26 schreef Mark Roberts:

Gonz wrote:


On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:

The photographs on the short list for this year's Astronomy
Photographer of the Year:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/gallery/2016/jul/27/astronomy-photographer-of-the-year-2016-shortlist-in-pictures



(Trivia: Find the mistake in the captions on that web page.)

The shadow of Mauna Kea (they misspelled it)  is my favorite.

I missed that one! There's another...






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Re: Amazing astro photos

[Darren Addy]

I came here to also say this. In almost these exact words.


On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 4:07 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> Great pics. But a fork, a spoon and a moon appears to be a photoshop job.
> The tree branches are seen in silhouette but the bird is nicely
> illuminated. By what? Especially against the moon background, which would
> have required a sunny 16 exposure. Ain't gonna happen.
> Paul
>
> Paul via phone
>
> > On Jul 27, 2016, at 4:58 PM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> >
> > Stunning pictures!
> >
> > Henk
> >
> > PS: (the other one of course is 2x "will be"" )
> >
> > Op 2016-07-27 om 22:26 schreef Mark Roberts:
> >> Gonz wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Mark Roberts
> >>>  wrote:
>  The photographs on the short list for this year's Astronomy
>  Photographer of the Year:
> 
> https://www.theguardian.com/science/gallery/2016/jul/27/astronomy-photographer-of-the-year-2016-shortlist-in-pictures
>  (Trivia: Find the mistake in the captions on that web page.)
> >>> The shadow of Mauna Kea (they misspelled it)  is my favorite.
> >> I missed that one! There's another...
> >
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Re: Amazing astro photos

[Mark Roberts]

John wrote:

>You could probably do it with a Better Beamer.
>
>http://www.digitalcamerareview.com/review/better-beamer-flash-extender-review/

Not without illuminating at least part of the tree. I mean, the Better
Beamer narrows down the field illuminated by the flash a lot, but it
can't be *that* specific!

If you look carefully at the bird's back you'll notice a dark
"anti-halo" inside the outline of the body. This appears to me to be
the edge of the selection he made before brightening the bird in
Photoshop. With today's super-low-noise sensors you could find enough
information in the shadows to pull out the level of detail seen in
this shot. The noisiness/blotchiness of the bird's body is what lead
me to the conclusion that's how it was done.

>On 7/27/2016 5:07 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Great pics. But a fork, a spoon and a moon appears to be a photoshop
>> job. The tree branches are seen in silhouette but the bird is nicely
>> illuminated. By what? Especially against the moon background, which
>> would have required a sunny 16 exposure. Ain't gonna happen. Paul
>>
>> Paul via phone
>>
>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 4:58 PM, Henk Terhell 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Stunning pictures!
>>>
>>> Henk
>>>
>>> PS: (the other one of course is 2x "will be"" )
>>>
>>> Op 2016-07-27 om 22:26 schreef Mark Roberts:
 Gonz wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Mark Roberts
>  wrote:
>> The photographs on the short list for this year's Astronomy
>> Photographer of the Year:
>> https://www.theguardian.com/science/gallery/2016/jul/27/astronomy-photographer-of-the-year-2016-shortlist-in-pictures
>>
>>
>(Trivia: Find the mistake in the captions on that web page.)
> The shadow of Mauna Kea (they misspelled it)  is my favorite.
 I missed that one! There's another...
>>>
>>
>
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Re: Amazing astro photos

[Jostein]

If this was a flash job you'd probably spot it by glints of certain 
portions of the branch underneath the bird.


But I don't agree with Paul either. I think this is done by selective 
dodging. The main reason I think so is that the contrast in the plumage 
looks unnaturally harsh, as it would be if pulled up, like, two or three 
stops.


Jostein

Den 28.07.2016 21.34, skrev John:

You could probably do it with a Better Beamer.

http://www.digitalcamerareview.com/review/better-beamer-flash-extender-review/


On 7/27/2016 5:07 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Great pics. But a fork, a spoon and a moon appears to be a photoshop
job. The tree branches are seen in silhouette but the bird is nicely
illuminated. By what? Especially against the moon background, which
would have required a sunny 16 exposure. Ain't gonna happen. Paul

Paul via phone


On Jul 27, 2016, at 4:58 PM, Henk Terhell 
wrote:

Stunning pictures!

Henk

PS: (the other one of course is 2x "will be"" )

Op 2016-07-27 om 22:26 schreef Mark Roberts:

Gonz wrote:


On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:

The photographs on the short list for this year's Astronomy
Photographer of the Year:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/gallery/2016/jul/27/astronomy-photographer-of-the-year-2016-shortlist-in-pictures




(Trivia: Find the mistake in the captions on that web page.)

The shadow of Mauna Kea (they misspelled it)  is my favorite.

I missed that one! There's another...








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Re: Amazing astro photos

[John]

There are many stunning images, but the PHOTOGRAPHIC quality displayed
here is quite low. There are only a couple of them that actually appear
to have something within the frame in focus.

I wouldn't want to be one of the judges trying to choose winners &
losers based on what is displayed on that web page.


On 7/27/2016 6:01 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Paul Stenquist wrote:


Great pics. But a fork, a spoon and a moon appears to be a photoshop job.
The tree branches are seen in silhouette but the bird is nicely illuminated.
By what? Especially against the moon background, which would have required
a sunny 16 exposure. Ain't gonna happen.


Now *that's* what we call a "very good point"!


From the superficial examination one can perform on a web-resolution

image, I think the bird has been subject to some dramatic dodging in
Photoshop. I don't *think* it's a composite shot, but I'd have to have
access to a full-res shot to be certain. Obviously, the judges do, and
may even have access to the raw file. Perhaps this kind of Photoshop
is allowed? I haven't read the contest rules but I know from going to
the exhibit in the past and reading the technical descriptions of the
photos some kinds of post-capture processing are allowed.


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Re: Amazing astro photos

[John]

You could probably do it with a Better Beamer.

http://www.digitalcamerareview.com/review/better-beamer-flash-extender-review/

On 7/27/2016 5:07 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Great pics. But a fork, a spoon and a moon appears to be a photoshop
job. The tree branches are seen in silhouette but the bird is nicely
illuminated. By what? Especially against the moon background, which
would have required a sunny 16 exposure. Ain't gonna happen. Paul

Paul via phone


On Jul 27, 2016, at 4:58 PM, Henk Terhell 
wrote:

Stunning pictures!

Henk

PS: (the other one of course is 2x "will be"" )

Op 2016-07-27 om 22:26 schreef Mark Roberts:

Gonz wrote:


On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:

The photographs on the short list for this year's Astronomy
Photographer of the Year:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/gallery/2016/jul/27/astronomy-photographer-of-the-year-2016-shortlist-in-pictures



(Trivia: Find the mistake in the captions on that web page.)

The shadow of Mauna Kea (they misspelled it)  is my favorite.

I missed that one! There's another...






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Re: Amazing astro photos

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Gonz  wrote:

> > Is the mistake in the caption to "Northern Lights over Jokulsarlon,
> > Iceland", where a couple is
> > mentioned as looking at the lights and I can see no people in the frame?
>

I thought it was labeling the "lights" over Antarctica as Aurora Borealis
rather than  Aurora Australis.


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Re: Amazing astro photos

[Gonz]

Huge Filaprom - "can be partially seem" should be "can be partially seen"
A Fork, a Spoon and a Moon "sits atop of a branch"  should be "sits atop a
branch" or "sits on top of a branch"
In the Seven Magic Points Rune, the first comma of the first sentence
should not be there.
There are a few other, more nitpicky ones...

Also, Jupiter is upside down from how its normally presented (though in
reality there is no up or down that is more correct than the other)

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 10:55 PM, John Coyle  wrote:

> Great photos, some of which must have been taken with incredibly good
> equipment.
> Is the mistake in the caption to "Northern Lights over Jokulsarlon,
> Iceland", where a couple is
> mentioned as looking at the lights and I can see no people in the frame?
>
>
> John in Brisbane
>
>
>
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> Subject: Amazing astro photos
>
> The photographs on the short list for this year's Astronomy Photographer
> of the Year:
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/science/gallery/2016/jul/27/astronomy-photographer-of-the-year-2016-shor
> tlist-in-pictures
> (Trivia: Find the mistake in the captions on that web page.)
>
> I saw the exhibit of the winners in Greenwich a couple of years ago and
> they were pretty amazing.
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RE: Amazing astro photos

[John Coyle]

Great photos, some of which must have been taken with incredibly good 
equipment. 
Is the mistake in the caption to "Northern Lights over Jokulsarlon, Iceland", 
where a couple is
mentioned as looking at the lights and I can see no people in the frame?


John in Brisbane



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Subject: Amazing astro photos

The photographs on the short list for this year's Astronomy Photographer of the 
Year:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/gallery/2016/jul/27/astronomy-photographer-of-the-year-2016-shor
tlist-in-pictures
(Trivia: Find the mistake in the captions on that web page.)

I saw the exhibit of the winners in Greenwich a couple of years ago and they 
were pretty amazing.
 
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Re: Amazing astro photos

[Larry Colen]

Mark Roberts wrote:

Larry Colen wrote:




Also note that the Perseid meteor shower shot is acknowledged to be a
composite of multiple exposures (doesn't say how many).


Oops, Perseid, not Pleidies.  My bad.



By the way, the error I alluded to in the beginning was in the
Antarctic aurora shot. They called it the "Aurora Borealis" when it is
actually the "Aurora Australis".



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Re: Amazing astro photos

[Paul Stenquist]

I don't think it could be accomplished through dodging alone. You wouldn't have 
much color to recapture and you'd create a lot of noise. Perhaps a "replace 
color" in combination with some detail creation. But my money still says it's a 
composite.

Paul via phone

> On Jul 27, 2016, at 6:38 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Larry Colen wrote:
> 
>> Mark Roberts wrote:
>>> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>> 
 Great pics. But a fork, a spoon and a moon appears to be a photoshop job.
 The tree branches are seen in silhouette but the bird is nicely 
 illuminated.
 By what? Especially against the moon background, which would have required
 a sunny 16 exposure. Ain't gonna happen.
>>> 
>>> Now *that's* what we call a "very good point"!
>>> 
 From the superficial examination one can perform on a web-resolution
>>> image, I think the bird has been subject to some dramatic dodging in
>>> Photoshop. I don't *think* it's a composite shot, but I'd have to have
>>> access to a full-res shot to be certain. Obviously, the judges do, and
>>> may even have access to the raw file. Perhaps this kind of Photoshop
>>> is allowed? I haven't read the contest rules but I know from going to
>>> the exhibit in the past and reading the technical descriptions of the
>>> photos some kinds of post-capture processing are allowed.
>> 
>> photoshop would need to be allowed to get the Pleidies (sp?) shot.
> 
> Also note that the Perseid meteor shower shot is acknowledged to be a
> composite of multiple exposures (doesn't say how many).
> 
> By the way, the error I alluded to in the beginning was in the
> Antarctic aurora shot. They called it the "Aurora Borealis" when it is
> actually the "Aurora Australis".
> 
> 
 https://www.theguardian.com/science/gallery/2016/jul/27/astronomy-photographer-of-the-year-2016-shortlist-in-pictures
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Re: Amazing astro photos

[Gonz]

Yeah, the meteor shower is definitely not one long exposure.  The
Milky way would not have stayed put like that for 4 hours!


On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> Larry Colen wrote:
>
>>Mark Roberts wrote:
>>> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>>
 Great pics. But a fork, a spoon and a moon appears to be a photoshop job.
 The tree branches are seen in silhouette but the bird is nicely 
 illuminated.
 By what? Especially against the moon background, which would have required
 a sunny 16 exposure. Ain't gonna happen.
>>>
>>> Now *that's* what we call a "very good point"!
>>>
 From the superficial examination one can perform on a web-resolution
>>> image, I think the bird has been subject to some dramatic dodging in
>>> Photoshop. I don't *think* it's a composite shot, but I'd have to have
>>> access to a full-res shot to be certain. Obviously, the judges do, and
>>> may even have access to the raw file. Perhaps this kind of Photoshop
>>> is allowed? I haven't read the contest rules but I know from going to
>>> the exhibit in the past and reading the technical descriptions of the
>>> photos some kinds of post-capture processing are allowed.
>>
>>photoshop would need to be allowed to get the Pleidies (sp?) shot.
>
> Also note that the Perseid meteor shower shot is acknowledged to be a
> composite of multiple exposures (doesn't say how many).
>
> By the way, the error I alluded to in the beginning was in the
> Antarctic aurora shot. They called it the "Aurora Borealis" when it is
> actually the "Aurora Australis".
>
>
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Re: Amazing astro photos

[Mark Roberts]

Larry Colen wrote:

>Mark Roberts wrote:
>> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>
>>> Great pics. But a fork, a spoon and a moon appears to be a photoshop job.
>>> The tree branches are seen in silhouette but the bird is nicely illuminated.
>>> By what? Especially against the moon background, which would have required
>>> a sunny 16 exposure. Ain't gonna happen.
>>
>> Now *that's* what we call a "very good point"!
>>
>>> From the superficial examination one can perform on a web-resolution
>> image, I think the bird has been subject to some dramatic dodging in
>> Photoshop. I don't *think* it's a composite shot, but I'd have to have
>> access to a full-res shot to be certain. Obviously, the judges do, and
>> may even have access to the raw file. Perhaps this kind of Photoshop
>> is allowed? I haven't read the contest rules but I know from going to
>> the exhibit in the past and reading the technical descriptions of the
>> photos some kinds of post-capture processing are allowed.
>
>photoshop would need to be allowed to get the Pleidies (sp?) shot.

Also note that the Perseid meteor shower shot is acknowledged to be a
composite of multiple exposures (doesn't say how many).

By the way, the error I alluded to in the beginning was in the
Antarctic aurora shot. They called it the "Aurora Borealis" when it is
actually the "Aurora Australis".


>>> https://www.theguardian.com/science/gallery/2016/jul/27/astronomy-photographer-of-the-year-2016-shortlist-in-pictures

 
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Re: Amazing astro photos

[Larry Colen]

Mark Roberts wrote:

Paul Stenquist wrote:


Great pics. But a fork, a spoon and a moon appears to be a photoshop job.
The tree branches are seen in silhouette but the bird is nicely illuminated.
By what? Especially against the moon background, which would have required
a sunny 16 exposure. Ain't gonna happen.


Now *that's* what we call a "very good point"!


From the superficial examination one can perform on a web-resolution

image, I think the bird has been subject to some dramatic dodging in
Photoshop. I don't *think* it's a composite shot, but I'd have to have
access to a full-res shot to be certain. Obviously, the judges do, and
may even have access to the raw file. Perhaps this kind of Photoshop
is allowed? I haven't read the contest rules but I know from going to
the exhibit in the past and reading the technical descriptions of the
photos some kinds of post-capture processing are allowed.


photoshop would need to be allowed to get the Pleidies (sp?) shot.




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Re: Amazing astro photos

[Jack Davis]

What Paul said, plus, that moon looks to be tipped well to the left compared
to the one I've been spooning to.

J

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> On Jul 27, 2016, at 2:07 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Great pics. But a fork, a spoon and a moon appears to be a photoshop job. The 
> tree branches are seen in silhouette but the bird is nicely illuminated. By 
> what? Especially against the moon background, which would have required a 
> sunny 16 exposure. Ain't gonna happen.
> Paul
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 4:58 PM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
>> 
>> Stunning pictures!
>> 
>> Henk
>> 
>> PS: (the other one of course is 2x "will be"" )
>> 
>> Op 2016-07-27 om 22:26 schreef Mark Roberts:
>>> Gonz wrote:
>>> 
 On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Mark Roberts
  wrote:
> The photographs on the short list for this year's Astronomy
> Photographer of the Year:
> https://www.theguardian.com/science/gallery/2016/jul/27/astronomy-photographer-of-the-year-2016-shortlist-in-pictures
> (Trivia: Find the mistake in the captions on that web page.)
 The shadow of Mauna Kea (they misspelled it)  is my favorite.
>>> I missed that one! There's another...
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Re: Amazing astro photos

[Mark Roberts]

Paul Stenquist wrote:

>Great pics. But a fork, a spoon and a moon appears to be a photoshop job. 
>The tree branches are seen in silhouette but the bird is nicely illuminated. 
>By what? Especially against the moon background, which would have required 
>a sunny 16 exposure. Ain't gonna happen.

Now *that's* what we call a "very good point"!

>From the superficial examination one can perform on a web-resolution
image, I think the bird has been subject to some dramatic dodging in
Photoshop. I don't *think* it's a composite shot, but I'd have to have
access to a full-res shot to be certain. Obviously, the judges do, and
may even have access to the raw file. Perhaps this kind of Photoshop
is allowed? I haven't read the contest rules but I know from going to
the exhibit in the past and reading the technical descriptions of the
photos some kinds of post-capture processing are allowed.

> https://www.theguardian.com/science/gallery/2016/jul/27/astronomy-photographer-of-the-year-2016-shortlist-in-pictures

 
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Re: Amazing astro photos

[Stanley Halpin]

> On Jul 27, 2016, at 2:58 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> The photographs on the short list for this year's Astronomy
> Photographer of the Year:
> https://www.theguardian.com/science/gallery/2016/jul/27/astronomy-photographer-of-the-year-2016-shortlist-in-pictures
> (Trivia: Find the mistake in the captions on that web page.)

“...gaseous features that can be partially seem over the sun’s disk as a 
filament, …”

But the photos are nice. Thanks!


stan

> 
> I saw the exhibit of the winners in Greenwich a couple of years ago
> and they were pretty amazing.
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Re: Amazing astro photos

[Paul Stenquist]

Great pics. But a fork, a spoon and a moon appears to be a photoshop job. The 
tree branches are seen in silhouette but the bird is nicely illuminated. By 
what? Especially against the moon background, which would have required a sunny 
16 exposure. Ain't gonna happen.
Paul

Paul via phone

> On Jul 27, 2016, at 4:58 PM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> Stunning pictures!
> 
> Henk
> 
> PS: (the other one of course is 2x "will be"" )
> 
> Op 2016-07-27 om 22:26 schreef Mark Roberts:
>> Gonz wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Mark Roberts
>>>  wrote:
 The photographs on the short list for this year's Astronomy
 Photographer of the Year:
 https://www.theguardian.com/science/gallery/2016/jul/27/astronomy-photographer-of-the-year-2016-shortlist-in-pictures
 (Trivia: Find the mistake in the captions on that web page.)
>>> The shadow of Mauna Kea (they misspelled it)  is my favorite.
>> I missed that one! There's another...
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Re: Amazing astro photos

[Henk Terhell]

Stunning pictures!

Henk

PS: (the other one of course is 2x "will be"" )

Op 2016-07-27 om 22:26 schreef Mark Roberts:

Gonz wrote:


On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:

The photographs on the short list for this year's Astronomy
Photographer of the Year:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/gallery/2016/jul/27/astronomy-photographer-of-the-year-2016-shortlist-in-pictures
(Trivia: Find the mistake in the captions on that web page.)


The shadow of Mauna Kea (they misspelled it)  is my favorite.

I missed that one! There's another...

  



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Re: Amazing astro photos

[Jostein Øksne]

Wonderful shots indeed! Thanks for the link.
Jostein 

Den 27. juli 2016 20.58.08 CEST, skrev Mark Roberts 
:
>The photographs on the short list for this year's Astronomy
>Photographer of the Year:
>https://www.theguardian.com/science/gallery/2016/jul/27/astronomy-photographer-of-the-year-2016-shortlist-in-pictures
>(Trivia: Find the mistake in the captions on that web page.)
>
>I saw the exhibit of the winners in Greenwich a couple of years ago
>and they were pretty amazing.
> 

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Re: Amazing astro photos

[Mark Roberts]

Gonz wrote:

>On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Mark Roberts
> wrote:
>> The photographs on the short list for this year's Astronomy
>> Photographer of the Year:
>> https://www.theguardian.com/science/gallery/2016/jul/27/astronomy-photographer-of-the-year-2016-shortlist-in-pictures
>> (Trivia: Find the mistake in the captions on that web page.)
>>
>The shadow of Mauna Kea (they misspelled it)  is my favorite.

I missed that one! There's another...

 
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Re: Amazing astro photos

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Gonz  wrote:

> The shadow of Mauna Kea (they misspelled it)  is my favorite.


I have seen -- and photographed -- the shadow of Mauna Kea (from Haleakala,
rather than from Hualalai), but this image is really much more effectuve
than mine.

Dan Matyolary.com/danieljmatyola

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Re: Amazing astro photos

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Wow!  Those are indeed beautiful and fascinating images.Thanks for the link.

Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Mark Roberts 
wrote:

>
> (Trivia: Find the mistake in the captions on that web page.)
>

Perhaps the use of the term "Aurora Borealis" in the antarctic image?
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Re: Amazing astro photos

[Gonz]

The shadow of Mauna Kea (they misspelled it)  is my favorite.


On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> The photographs on the short list for this year's Astronomy
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> (Trivia: Find the mistake in the captions on that web page.)
>
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