Re: April PUG theme 20th anniversary

2017-04-03 Thread John

"Good" and "good enough" are not quite the same thing.

On 3/31/2017 3:27 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

Wait wait! You mean we were supposed to select something good? I
would still be looking through files if I had known that...

stan


On Mar 31, 2017, at 2:04 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

Ok, I'm in. Had a hard time finding something I thought was good enough to 
submit.

On 3/30/2017 10:30 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Just submitted my PUG entry!  Just FYI, Brian!  Thanks for all your work on the 
PUG!  Cheers, Christine






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Re: April PUG theme 20th anniversary

2017-04-01 Thread Toralf Lund

On 31/03/17 21:27, Stanley Halpin wrote:

Wait wait! You mean we were supposed to select something good? I would still be 
looking through files if I had known that...
Fortunately, I knew I didn't have anything good anyway, so I didn't have 
to spend a lot of time looking.


- T



stan


On Mar 31, 2017, at 2:04 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

Ok, I'm in. Had a hard time finding something I thought was good enough to 
submit.

On 3/30/2017 10:30 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Just submitted my PUG entry!  Just FYI, Brian!  Thanks for all your work on the 
PUG!  Cheers, Christine






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Re: April PUG theme 20th anniversary

2017-03-31 Thread Stanley Halpin
Wait wait! You mean we were supposed to select something good? I would still be 
looking through files if I had known that...

stan

> On Mar 31, 2017, at 2:04 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> Ok, I'm in. Had a hard time finding something I thought was good enough to 
> submit.
> 
> On 3/30/2017 10:30 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
>> Just submitted my PUG entry!  Just FYI, Brian!  Thanks for all your work on 
>> the PUG!  Cheers, Christine
>> 


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Re: April PUG theme 20th anniversary

2017-03-31 Thread John Sessoms
Ok, I'm in. Had a hard time finding something I thought was good enough 
to submit.


On 3/30/2017 10:30 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Just submitted my PUG entry!  Just FYI, Brian!  Thanks for all your work on the 
PUG!  Cheers, Christine



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Re: April PUG theme 20th anniversary

2017-03-30 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, Mar 31, 2017, at 01:30 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
> Just submitted my PUG entry!  Just FYI, Brian!  Thanks for all your work
> on the PUG!  Cheers, Christine


Yep - got it.  Thanks.

Time's running out, guys.


Cheers

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Re: April PUG theme 20th anniversary

2017-03-30 Thread Christine Aguila
Just submitted my PUG entry!  Just FYI, Brian!  Thanks for all your work on the 
PUG!  Cheers, Christine
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Re: April PUG theme 20th anniversary

2017-03-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I spent some time looking at the early PUGs, mostly to see what I uploaded
back then that might be appropriate for the 20th Anniversary PUG.

The main impressions I received, however, were:

1.  How many entries there were 15 years or so ago.
2.  The variety and quality of the entries.
3.  How many names I recognized of posters 10-15 years ago who are
photographers that I really respected and persons whom I now really miss.

Is there any way we can reach out to these former PDMLers, and invite them
to rejoin us at least for the April 20th Anniversary PUG?  I know that the
posts usually contained the emails being used at the time.  Many may have
new emails now, but some of the old emails might still be active, and
others may be locatable through FaceBook or otherwise.

Does anyone else feel it might be worth the effort to reach out and try to
contact former members who used to be acttive posters to the PUG and this
list?


Dan Matyola
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On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Brian Walters 
wrote:

> Thanks for starting this thread, Luiz.
>
> When the idea of a 20th Anniversary PUG was first raised, several
> suggestions on possible themes were raised.  Looking back at those
> posts, these seemed to be the ones most preferred (not in any particular
> order):
>
> !. All time favorite photograph rather than one's best.
>
> 2. The first photo that the photographer remembers being proud of.
>
> 3. The image that the photographer feels is the very, very best of their
> work.
>
> 4. A favorite from prior PUG submissions.
>
> 5. An open gallery (if options 1 to 4 don't suit).
>
> Obviously, we wouldn't want to be too prescriptive in the theme - the
> aim of this gallery is to maximize participation so, I'd suggest
> allowing submitters to choose which of those 'themes' he/she would like
> to adopt - and then optionally writing a few words about their choice in
> the comments section of the submission form.
>
> But, of course, I just compile the submissions (it's not my gallery) so
> what do you all feel is the way to go?
>
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017, at 12:24 PM, luiz felipe wrote:
> > Comes next, and I'd like a little more information about it. I do have
> > some old stuff if that's one way to go, and could try to look really
> > back in terms of PUG submissions as well - but would rather try
> > something new if the group goes that way. so, any (new) ideas?
> >
> > TIA
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Re: April PUG theme 20th anniversary

2017-03-04 Thread David J Brooks
I',m sure i can but the one from plowing demo from 7-8 years ago is my
best AFAIC but its a Nikon shot. I do have Pentax shots from the
plowing so i'll settle for 2nd best.LOL

Dave

On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 2:10 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> Well it does seem that the PUG  should have either lens or camera body be a
> Pentax - and my favorite of the suggestions below is the 4th one - dave, I
> think
> you should be able to easily find a goodie from your past PUGS
>
> ann
>
>
> On 3/4/2017 1:05 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Brian Walters 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for starting this thread, Luiz.
>>>
>>> When the idea of a 20th Anniversary PUG was first raised, several
>>> suggestions on possible themes were raised.  Looking back at those
>>> posts, these seemed to be the ones most preferred (not in any particular
>>> order):
>>>
>>> !. All time favorite photograph rather than one's best.
>>>
>>> 2. The first photo that the photographer remembers being proud of.
>>>
>>> 3. The image that the photographer feels is the very, very best of their
>>> work.
>>>
>>> 4. A favorite from prior PUG submissions.
>>>
>>> 5. An open gallery (if options 1 to 4 don't suit).
>>
>> Unfortunately the above 1 through 3 are all Nikon related. I suppose
>> if i put my K-5 in the Nikon bag for a week would they then count.??
>>
>> Dave
>>>
>>> Obviously, we wouldn't want to be too prescriptive in the theme - the
>>> aim of this gallery is to maximize participation so, I'd suggest
>>> allowing submitters to choose which of those 'themes' he/she would like
>>> to adopt - and then optionally writing a few words about their choice in
>>> the comments section of the submission form.
>>>
>>> But, of course, I just compile the submissions (it's not my gallery) so
>>> what do you all feel is the way to go?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> ++
>>> Brian Walters
>>> Western Sydney Australia
>>> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017, at 12:24 PM, luiz felipe wrote:

 Comes next, and I'd like a little more information about it. I do have
 some old stuff if that's one way to go, and could try to look really
 back in terms of PUG submissions as well - but would rather try
 something new if the group goes that way. so, any (new) ideas?

 TIA

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Re: April PUG theme 20th anniversary

2017-03-04 Thread ann sanfedele
Well it does seem that the PUG  should have either lens or camera body 
be a Pentax - and my favorite of the suggestions below is the 4th one - 
dave, I think

you should be able to easily find a goodie from your past PUGS

ann

On 3/4/2017 1:05 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:

Thanks for starting this thread, Luiz.

When the idea of a 20th Anniversary PUG was first raised, several
suggestions on possible themes were raised.  Looking back at those
posts, these seemed to be the ones most preferred (not in any particular
order):

!. All time favorite photograph rather than one's best.

2. The first photo that the photographer remembers being proud of.

3. The image that the photographer feels is the very, very best of their
work.

4. A favorite from prior PUG submissions.

5. An open gallery (if options 1 to 4 don't suit).

Unfortunately the above 1 through 3 are all Nikon related. I suppose
if i put my K-5 in the Nikon bag for a week would they then count.??

Dave

Obviously, we wouldn't want to be too prescriptive in the theme - the
aim of this gallery is to maximize participation so, I'd suggest
allowing submitters to choose which of those 'themes' he/she would like
to adopt - and then optionally writing a few words about their choice in
the comments section of the submission form.

But, of course, I just compile the submissions (it's not my gallery) so
what do you all feel is the way to go?




Cheers

Brian

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On Fri, Mar 3, 2017, at 12:24 PM, luiz felipe wrote:

Comes next, and I'd like a little more information about it. I do have
some old stuff if that's one way to go, and could try to look really
back in terms of PUG submissions as well - but would rather try
something new if the group goes that way. so, any (new) ideas?

TIA

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Re: April PUG theme 20th anniversary

2017-03-04 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> Thanks for starting this thread, Luiz.
>
> When the idea of a 20th Anniversary PUG was first raised, several
> suggestions on possible themes were raised.  Looking back at those
> posts, these seemed to be the ones most preferred (not in any particular
> order):
>
> !. All time favorite photograph rather than one's best.
>
> 2. The first photo that the photographer remembers being proud of.
>
> 3. The image that the photographer feels is the very, very best of their
> work.
>
> 4. A favorite from prior PUG submissions.
>
> 5. An open gallery (if options 1 to 4 don't suit).

Unfortunately the above 1 through 3 are all Nikon related. I suppose
if i put my K-5 in the Nikon bag for a week would they then count.??

Dave
>
> Obviously, we wouldn't want to be too prescriptive in the theme - the
> aim of this gallery is to maximize participation so, I'd suggest
> allowing submitters to choose which of those 'themes' he/she would like
> to adopt - and then optionally writing a few words about their choice in
> the comments section of the submission form.
>
> But, of course, I just compile the submissions (it's not my gallery) so
> what do you all feel is the way to go?
>
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017, at 12:24 PM, luiz felipe wrote:
>> Comes next, and I'd like a little more information about it. I do have
>> some old stuff if that's one way to go, and could try to look really
>> back in terms of PUG submissions as well - but would rather try
>> something new if the group goes that way. so, any (new) ideas?
>>
>> TIA
>>
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Re: April PUG theme 20th anniversary

2017-03-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I love Fawlty Towers!


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On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 2:40 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

>
> On 4 Mar 2017, at 01:39, Stanley Halpin  mailto:s...@stans-photography.info>> wrote:
>
>
> [...]
>
>  I would also like it to somehow capture the broader essence of PDML.
>
> Oh, dear. That door perhaps ought to remain firmly locked.
>
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5RtteFQTZgc
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Re: April PUG theme 20th anniversary

2017-03-03 Thread Bob W-PDML

On 4 Mar 2017, at 01:39, Stanley Halpin 
mailto:s...@stans-photography.info>> wrote:


[...]

 I would also like it to somehow capture the broader essence of PDML.

Oh, dear. That door perhaps ought to remain firmly locked.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5RtteFQTZgc

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Re: April PUG theme 20th anniversary

2017-03-03 Thread ann sanfedele
well I like that you offered these... hope everyone picks one of the 
first 4..
I was going to use the very first photo I sent to the PUG but thinking 
instead I'll go with one of my faves from previous PUGS -- Then I don't 
ahve to make a new file  LOL


ann the lazy




On 3/3/2017 5:00 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

Thanks for starting this thread, Luiz.

When the idea of a 20th Anniversary PUG was first raised, several
suggestions on possible themes were raised.  Looking back at those
posts, these seemed to be the ones most preferred (not in any particular
order):

!. All time favorite photograph rather than one's best.

2. The first photo that the photographer remembers being proud of.

3. The image that the photographer feels is the very, very best of their
work.

4. A favorite from prior PUG submissions.

5. An open gallery (if options 1 to 4 don't suit).

Obviously, we wouldn't want to be too prescriptive in the theme - the
aim of this gallery is to maximize participation so, I'd suggest
allowing submitters to choose which of those 'themes' he/she would like
to adopt - and then optionally writing a few words about their choice in
the comments section of the submission form.

But, of course, I just compile the submissions (it's not my gallery) so
what do you all feel is the way to go?




Cheers

Brian

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On Fri, Mar 3, 2017, at 12:24 PM, luiz felipe wrote:

Comes next, and I'd like a little more information about it. I do have
some old stuff if that's one way to go, and could try to look really
back in terms of PUG submissions as well - but would rather try
something new if the group goes that way. so, any (new) ideas?

TIA

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Re: April PUG theme 20th anniversary

2017-03-03 Thread Stanley Halpin

> On Mar 3, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for starting this thread, Luiz.
> 
> When the idea of a 20th Anniversary PUG was first raised, several
> suggestions on possible themes were raised.  Looking back at those
> posts, these seemed to be the ones most preferred (not in any particular
> order):
> 
> !. All time favorite photograph rather than one's best.
> 
> 2. The first photo that the photographer remembers being proud of.
> 
> 3. The image that the photographer feels is the very, very best of their
> work.
> 
> 4. A favorite from prior PUG submissions.
> 
> 5. An open gallery (if options 1 to 4 don't suit).
> 
> Obviously, we wouldn't want to be too prescriptive in the theme - the
> aim of this gallery is to maximize participation so, I'd suggest
> allowing submitters to choose which of those 'themes' he/she would like
> to adopt - and then optionally writing a few words about their choice in
> the comments section of the submission form.
> 
> But, of course, I just compile the submissions (it's not my gallery) so
> what do you all feel is the way to go?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> 
> 

One of the positive aspects of the PUG for me over the years is that neither 
the PUGmeisters nor others in PDML have worried too much about strict 
interpretation of the monthly themes. Sometimes I have wished for a bit more 
specificity, but it is good to be able to go off in my own direction without 
too much worry about THE theme.

This might be a case where I wouldn’t mind more specificity, but the theme did 
get me thinking. I have 3-4 ideas, two of which I may yet pursue.

When this theme was suggested last year, my first reaction was to think about 
finding either my first or my favorite post to the PUG. Or maybe a photo from 
one of those themes which made me push my limits a bit  (like the equinox theme 
where THE hour was well after dark and I didn’t do after dark shots…)

But then I thought about 20 years of PDML, most of which I have been here for. 
I have learned a lot, I have been inspired and often humbled by the quality of 
others’ work and the depth of their artistry. But then that is not all of it, 
not even the most important for me. Beginning in the early 2000’s and a 
photoday in Toronto facilitated by Frank and followed by equally memorable 
gatherings with individuals and groups in Sydney and London and Naples and 
Grandfather Mountain and Venice and Brighton and Chicago and Oslo and Jerusalem 
and Aland and Milwaukee and… I have come to know many fine people. So one 
thought I had was to do a photo collage of the pictures I have of those 
gatherings. Idea rejected for several reasons including that I doubt if I can 
find decent shots of everyone, and I don’t know how to make such a collage. And 
besides, there have been as many virtual meetings as there have been actual 
physical ones, so the face-to-face and corresponding photo to document it 
doesn’t really capture the essence of PDML’s 20 years for me.

Another idea is to do a representative shot of some one or two PDMLers. I have 
a couple in mind. 

As you can see part of my dilemma is that I want my image to fit with the PUG 
anniversary theme, but I would also like it to somehow capture the broader 
essence of PDML.  Or maybe I will just submit one of my favorite photos taken 
sometime in the last 20 years.  Que sera sera. 

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Re: April PUG theme 20th anniversary

2017-03-03 Thread Brian Walters
Thanks for starting this thread, Luiz.

When the idea of a 20th Anniversary PUG was first raised, several
suggestions on possible themes were raised.  Looking back at those
posts, these seemed to be the ones most preferred (not in any particular
order):

!. All time favorite photograph rather than one's best.

2. The first photo that the photographer remembers being proud of.

3. The image that the photographer feels is the very, very best of their
work.

4. A favorite from prior PUG submissions.

5. An open gallery (if options 1 to 4 don't suit).

Obviously, we wouldn't want to be too prescriptive in the theme - the
aim of this gallery is to maximize participation so, I'd suggest
allowing submitters to choose which of those 'themes' he/she would like
to adopt - and then optionally writing a few words about their choice in
the comments section of the submission form.

But, of course, I just compile the submissions (it's not my gallery) so
what do you all feel is the way to go?




Cheers

Brian

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On Fri, Mar 3, 2017, at 12:24 PM, luiz felipe wrote:
> Comes next, and I'd like a little more information about it. I do have 
> some old stuff if that's one way to go, and could try to look really 
> back in terms of PUG submissions as well - but would rather try 
> something new if the group goes that way. so, any (new) ideas?
> 
> TIA
> 
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Re: April PUG theme 20th anniversary

2017-03-02 Thread Bill

On 3/2/2017 7:24 PM, luiz felipe wrote:

Comes next, and I'd like a little more information about it. I do have
some old stuff if that's one way to go, and could try to look really
back in terms of PUG submissions as well - but would rather try
something new if the group goes that way. so, any (new) ideas?

TIA



I was going to take a picture of something I bought in 1997..

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