Re: Buying LX

2012-05-29 Thread Dmitry Gromov
hi

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>
> > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> > Cotty
> >
> > The only thing wrong with my LX is the LCD on the back is farked, so I
> > use it for jamming in an end flap of the film box to remind me what's
> > loaded...
> >
>
> if you hollow it out you'll be able to see what's on the negative as soon as
> you've shot it.
>

Actually... It reminds me of something I've heard not too log ago
about last days of Kodak...
They were working on new breakthrough in film area, which employed
quantum entanglement - you load such film and put special compound
piece in that holder on the back - and as soon as shutter is
triggered, you will instantly see a preview.
This is done by request of several high-ranked photographers, who
can't live without chimping anymore.
So, as usual, the project run over the budget and schedule and was the
last drop, which caused them to file for bankruptcy.
BTW, that nuclear reactor they had in the basement was used to test
new film camera coating required for this film, because it was highly
radioactive...

Truthfully yours,
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RE: Buying LX

2012-05-15 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Cotty
> 
> The only thing wrong with my LX is the LCD on the back is farked, so I
> use it for jamming in an end flap of the film box to remind me what's
> loaded...
> 

if you hollow it out you'll be able to see what's on the negative as soon as
you've shot it.

B


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Re: Buying LX

2012-05-15 Thread Dmitry Gromov
Hi!

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Body with viewfinder or just body???

Body with viewfinder. Preferably FA-1, but FA-1W may work too.

Dmitry

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Re: Buying LX

2012-05-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
Body with viewfinder or just body???

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Dmitry Gromov  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:31 AM,  wrote:
>>
>> Dmitry hi,
>> Are looking for a body only or a complete camera? I have 3 LX cameras, and I
>> could sell you one. Contact me off line.
>> Jonathan [ma...@redwoodhorses.com]
>>
>
> I'm looking for a body only. I'll email you off-list, thank you!
>
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Re: Buying LX

2012-05-15 Thread Dmitry Gromov
Hi!

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:31 AM,  wrote:
>
> Dmitry hi,
> Are looking for a body only or a complete camera? I have 3 LX cameras, and I
> could sell you one. Contact me off line.
> Jonathan [ma...@redwoodhorses.com]
>

I'm looking for a body only. I'll email you off-list, thank you!

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RE: Buying LX

2012-05-15 Thread mail1
Dmitry hi,
Are looking for a body only or a complete camera? I have 3 LX cameras, and I
could sell you one. Contact me off line.
Jonathan [ma...@redwoodhorses.com]

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Hi!

Long-long time reader here - its time for me to get an LX, always wanted...
Need your advice - by an EX condition from KEH or go hunting on eBay.

KEH promises good condition, CLA performed and 2 week return. My
previous experience with them was fine.
But reading some feedback here (and elsewhere) makes me a bit nervous...
eBay is more roulette-like, but some sellers also guarantee returns,
eBay has some protection as well and also photos and serials published
(no details available from KEH).

Get EX? Or get BGN condition cheaper and try to get CLA/fix for the
money saved? I guess, repair becomes more and more costly as time goes
by...

Or, may be someone here (reputable!) can offer a good one for sale? :)

Your advice, tips and thoughts would be appreciated!

Dmitry

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Re: Buying LX

2012-05-15 Thread Dmitry Gromov
Hi!

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:25 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
>
> From: Dmitry Gromov

>>>
>> Yeah, I know about early and late models and the differences, wanted
>> to get newer one, hope it more common, but there is no way to know it
>> from KEH's description :(
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Dmitry
>
>
> I think they still have their 800 number. You should be able to call them and 
> ask what the highest ISO is on the particular camera you're interested in.
>

Will do that, of course, if I decide to order there, but looks like
they are out of all EX condition bodies now.

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Re: Buying LX

2012-05-15 Thread John Sessoms

From: Dmitry Gromov


Hi!

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Mark C  wrote:

Been years since I dealt with KEH, but when I did they were fine.

As you may already know, there were two versions of the LX - one with ISO 6
- 1600 and a later one supporting ISO 6-3200 and some other differences. ?I
think that there were other variations within the boarder "early' and "late'
?models as well. Probably a good idea to get details before buying.

It is a beautiful camera - I use mine regularly.


Yeah, I know about early and late models and the differences, wanted
to get newer one, hope it more common, but there is no way to know it
from KEH's description :(

Thanks!
Dmitry


I think they still have their 800 number. You should be able to call 
them and ask what the highest ISO is on the particular camera you're 
interested in.


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Re: Buying LX

2012-05-15 Thread Cotty
The only thing wrong with my LX is the LCD on the back is farked, so I
use it for jamming in an end flap of the film box to remind me what's
loaded...

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Re: Buying LX

2012-05-14 Thread Dmitry Gromov
Hi!

>
> Ok, thanks for the reminder about pentaxs.com - I remember this place
> was mentioned on the list before, should have searched better :)
> Going to ask Eric about current prices...
>


So, if anyone else cares (or interested) - I emailed Eric and got a reply.
LX CLA now costs $160, shipping is extra - so total will be about $200
including USPS flat rate box both ways...

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Re: Buying LX

2012-05-14 Thread Dmitry Gromov
Hi!

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> On 5/14/2012 8:07 PM, Dmitry Gromov wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, I know about early and late models and the differences, wanted to
>> get newer one, hope it more common, but there is no way to know it from
>> KEH's description :( Thanks! Dmitry
>
>
> You might want to email KEH and ask about the sensitivity range. My LX is a
> leter model, but I had it modified so that the meter activated when the
> button that releases the ISO dial is pressed. I might be wrong but I think
> that might have been a feature of the latest LX's - not sure of that at all
> though. Someone else here might know. But that might be something else to
> check into.
>

Well, I already emailed them recently, inquiring about one of the
LXes... Took almost a week and couple repeat emails for sales to
respond and was told that they are in one place and warehouse is in
different place and no more details about camera is available.
I find it really strange... It looked like they were not really
interested in sale :(

As for differences in LX models - Bojidar Dimitrov's Pentax K-Mount
Page have some info here:
   LX (late version)
   http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/film_LX/LX_new.html
But he does not mention ISO (however difference is seen in the spec tables).
There are other places on the net, which outline those differences -
much easier to find now-days than 10 years ago :) (I've been
subscribed to original PDML still hosted by Pentax, so I remember).

> An LX in good working condition will have fabulous low light performance.
> Open the shutter in a darkened room, leave, and it will expose the film for
> many minutes or even hours and then shut down when the correct exposure is
> achieved. Really cool, hard on batteries. That is the feature that keeps
> failing on my LX.Right now,  I might get good one or two minute exposures,
> but when it gets long the camera just leaves the shutter open forever. I've
> had that fixed 3 times, it works for a while but  it just doesn't stick. So
> if you get an LX with a return policy, test to be sure it does longer
> exposures - at least 15 minutes. The real time metering on mine still works
> - turn on the room lights and the shutter closes - it just does not work in
> fairly dim situations for really long exposures.
>

Ok, great thanks for the tip, will definitely check it out!

Dmitry

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Re: Buying LX

2012-05-14 Thread Mark C

On 5/14/2012 8:07 PM, Dmitry Gromov wrote:
Yeah, I know about early and late models and the differences, wanted 
to get newer one, hope it more common, but there is no way to know it 
from KEH's description :( Thanks! Dmitry 


You might want to email KEH and ask about the sensitivity range. My LX 
is a leter model, but I had it modified so that the meter activated when 
the button that releases the ISO dial is pressed. I might be wrong but I 
think that might have been a feature of the latest LX's - not sure of 
that at all though. Someone else here might know. But that might be 
something else to check into.


An LX in good working condition will have fabulous low light 
performance. Open the shutter in a darkened room, leave, and it will 
expose the film for many minutes or even hours and then shut down when 
the correct exposure is achieved. Really cool, hard on batteries. That 
is the feature that keeps failing on my LX.Right now,  I might get good 
one or two minute exposures, but when it gets long the camera just 
leaves the shutter open forever. I've had that fixed 3 times, it works 
for a while but  it just doesn't stick. So if you get an LX with a 
return policy, test to be sure it does longer exposures - at least 15 
minutes. The real time metering on mine still works - turn on the room 
lights and the shutter closes - it just does not work in fairly dim 
situations for really long exposures.


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Re: Buying LX

2012-05-14 Thread Dmitry Gromov
Hi!

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> Been years since I dealt with KEH, but when I did they were fine.
>
> As you may already know, there were two versions of the LX - one with ISO 6
> - 1600 and a later one supporting ISO 6-3200 and some other differences.  I
> think that there were other variations within the boarder "early' and "late'
>  models as well. Probably a good idea to get details before buying.
>
> It is a beautiful camera - I use mine regularly.
>

Yeah, I know about early and late models and the differences, wanted
to get newer one, hope it more common, but there is no way to know it
from KEH's description :(

Thanks!
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Re: Buying LX

2012-05-14 Thread Mark C

Been years since I dealt with KEH, but when I did they were fine.

As you may already know, there were two versions of the LX - one with 
ISO 6 - 1600 and a later one supporting ISO 6-3200 and some other 
differences.  I think that there were other variations within the 
boarder "early' and "late'  models as well. Probably a good idea to get 
details before buying.


It is a beautiful camera - I use mine regularly.

MCC

On 5/13/2012 10:35 PM, Dmitry Gromov wrote:

Hi!

Long-long time reader here - its time for me to get an LX, always wanted...
Need your advice - by an EX condition from KEH or go hunting on eBay.

KEH promises good condition, CLA performed and 2 week return. My
previous experience with them was fine.
But reading some feedback here (and elsewhere) makes me a bit nervous...
eBay is more roulette-like, but some sellers also guarantee returns,
eBay has some protection as well and also photos and serials published
(no details available from KEH).

Get EX? Or get BGN condition cheaper and try to get CLA/fix for the
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by...

Or, may be someone here (reputable!) can offer a good one for sale? :)

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Re: Buying LX

2012-05-14 Thread Dmitry Gromov
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:10 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> Last I checked Pentax was still servicing the LX.  However probably the best
> place to send if for a CLA, if you know it doesn't need any parts is
> Pentaxs.com.  Eric does excellent work for reasonable prices.  He just
> recently started charging return postage but that's a small price to pay for
> someone who's work and word you can trust.
>

Ok, thanks for the reminder about pentaxs.com - I remember this place
was mentioned on the list before, should have searched better :)
Going to ask Eric about current prices...

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Re: Buying LX

2012-05-14 Thread P. J. Alling
Last I checked Pentax was still servicing the LX.  However probably the 
best place to send if for a CLA, if you know it doesn't need any parts 
is Pentaxs.com.  Eric does excellent work for reasonable prices.  He 
just recently started charging return postage but that's a small price 
to pay for someone who's work and word you can trust.


On 5/14/2012 1:44 PM, Dmitry Gromov wrote:

Hi!

Thanks for the response, I'll email you off list.

But a question though - what is the current cost of CLA and what is
the good place in US to perform it (preferably NY/NJ/PA tri-state)? I
guess, Pentax no longer dealing with it?

Thanks!
Dmitry

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Miserere  wrote:

Well, Dmitry, I have an LX that I want to sell, but it needs a CLA.
Other than that it's in pretty good physical shape. If you might be
interested, e-mail me off-list.

Cheers,


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On 14 May 2012 11:47, Dmitry Gromov  wrote:

Hi!

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:31 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:


As far as I know, the only complaints about KEH were their offerings are low
when they're buying equipment. I would buy from KEH before I'd buy from
eBay.

My experience with KEH is their quality descriptions are very conservative.


Thank you, John, for confirming my own experience with KEH.
But as I said - I saw posts in PDML saying that they do not answer
emails/calls if return is needed or send non-working item.
Those complains are rare, more often people say (as you pointed out)
that their ratings are conservative.
However, I did have some difficulty communicating with them over email.
Thanks!
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Re: Buying LX

2012-05-14 Thread John Sessoms

From: Dmitry Gromov


Hi! On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:31 AM, John Sessoms  
wrote:


As far as I know, the only complaints about KEH were their offerings are low
when they're buying equipment. I would buy from KEH before I'd buy from
eBay.

My experience with KEH is their quality descriptions are very conservative.


Thank you, John, for confirming my own experience with KEH.
But as I said - I saw posts in PDML saying that they do not answer
emails/calls if return is needed or send non-working item.
Those complains are rare, more often people say (as you pointed out)
that their ratings are conservative.
However, I did have some difficulty communicating with them over email.

Thanks!
Dmitry


I have never had that experience with KEH.

Thinking back on it, though, I've never had to send anything back 
because it wasn't working as described.


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Re: Buying LX

2012-05-14 Thread Dmitry Gromov
Hi!

Thanks for the response, I'll email you off list.

But a question though - what is the current cost of CLA and what is
the good place in US to perform it (preferably NY/NJ/PA tri-state)? I
guess, Pentax no longer dealing with it?

Thanks!
Dmitry

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Miserere  wrote:
> Well, Dmitry, I have an LX that I want to sell, but it needs a CLA.
> Other than that it's in pretty good physical shape. If you might be
> interested, e-mail me off-list.
>
> Cheers,
>
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>
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> On 14 May 2012 11:47, Dmitry Gromov  wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:31 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> As far as I know, the only complaints about KEH were their offerings are low
>>> when they're buying equipment. I would buy from KEH before I'd buy from
>>> eBay.
>>>
>>> My experience with KEH is their quality descriptions are very conservative.
>>>
>>
>> Thank you, John, for confirming my own experience with KEH.
>> But as I said - I saw posts in PDML saying that they do not answer
>> emails/calls if return is needed or send non-working item.
>> Those complains are rare, more often people say (as you pointed out)
>> that their ratings are conservative.
>> However, I did have some difficulty communicating with them over email.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Dmitry
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Re: Buying LX

2012-05-14 Thread Miserere
Well, Dmitry, I have an LX that I want to sell, but it needs a CLA.
Other than that it's in pretty good physical shape. If you might be
interested, e-mail me off-list.

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On 14 May 2012 11:47, Dmitry Gromov  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:31 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
>>
>>
>> As far as I know, the only complaints about KEH were their offerings are low
>> when they're buying equipment. I would buy from KEH before I'd buy from
>> eBay.
>>
>> My experience with KEH is their quality descriptions are very conservative.
>>
>
> Thank you, John, for confirming my own experience with KEH.
> But as I said - I saw posts in PDML saying that they do not answer
> emails/calls if return is needed or send non-working item.
> Those complains are rare, more often people say (as you pointed out)
> that their ratings are conservative.
> However, I did have some difficulty communicating with them over email.
>
> Thanks!
> Dmitry
>
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Re: Buying LX

2012-05-14 Thread Dmitry Gromov
Hi!

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:31 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
>
>
> As far as I know, the only complaints about KEH were their offerings are low
> when they're buying equipment. I would buy from KEH before I'd buy from
> eBay.
>
> My experience with KEH is their quality descriptions are very conservative.
>

Thank you, John, for confirming my own experience with KEH.
But as I said - I saw posts in PDML saying that they do not answer
emails/calls if return is needed or send non-working item.
Those complains are rare, more often people say (as you pointed out)
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However, I did have some difficulty communicating with them over email.

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