Re: Clue re next limited lens
Hi Jim, Any detail about the new Limited lens FA23/F1.9? Thanks a lot. Aconquija - Original Message - From: "Jim Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 7:30 PM Subject: Clue re next limited lens > One of the advertisers in this week's UK Amateur Photographer magazine said > "31mm 1.8 Ltd, 23mm 1.9 Ltd - Coming soon - watch this space" > > Bye for now. > Jim Brooks > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clue re next limited lens
Jim wrote: > One of the advertisers in this week's UK Amateur Photographer magazine said > "31mm 1.8 Ltd, 23mm 1.9 Ltd - Coming soon - watch this space" Really? I thought the next Limited was an 18/2.8. Hmm..this is going to be expensive. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clue re next limited lens
Interesting, the same magnification factor between 23 mm and 28 mm, as 31 & 35, 43 & 50, and 77 & 90. Four lenses? You guys want to tell me again that it is a coincidence? -- tom - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clue re next limited lens
- Original Message - From: "Tom Rittenhouse" Subject: Re: Clue re next limited lens > Interesting, the same magnification factor between 23 mm and > 28 mm, as 31 & 35, 43 & 50, and 77 & 90. Four lenses? You > guys want to tell me again that it is a coincidence? I go with the conspiracy theory on this one. L8R Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clue re next limited lens
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > I'd never by > a regular FA lens, but I can see owning several Ltd. lenses. Shel, find yourself an FA* 24mm f2.0 and give it a whirl. It'll most certainly change your mind. The other reason I have to doubt the rumor is that the FA* 24mm f2.0 is a really freakin' huge chunk of glass...a 23mm f1.8 would have to be even bigger, and that seems to me to go against the Limited grain. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clue re next limited lens
I don't buy it. First, I don't think Pentax has ever made a 90mm lens for 35mm, and secondly 23mm F1.9 is way too close to the FA* 24mm F2, both in focal length and maximum aperture. I'm guessing the next one will probably be a mid-tele, something 120-150mm. Todd At 01:36 AM 5/19/01 -0400, you wrote: >Interesting, the same magnification factor between 23 mm and >28 mm, as 31 & 35, 43 & 50, and 77 & 90. Four lenses? You >guys want to tell me again that it is a coincidence? >-- >tom > > >- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clue re next limited lens
Rob Studdert wrote: > > On 19 May 2001, at 16:12, Aaron Reynolds wrote: > > > The other reason I have to doubt the rumor is that the FA* 24mm f2.0 is > > a really freakin' huge chunk of glass...a 23mm f1.8 would have to be > > even bigger, and that seems to me to go against the Limited grain. > > >From my observations the FA lenses tend to be bloated WRT housings > regardless of the glass that they contain (especially where there are A series > equivalents), the LTD lenses seem to have very well designed housings that > have consciously been limited in size? Yeah, but the FA* 24mm f2.0 has a huge front element! :) -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clue re next limited lens
On 21 May 2001, at 13:53, Tom Rittenhouse wrote: > The Limited lenses are intended to compete directly with > Leica. Leica has always had a 90mm. Furthermore, someone on > the list mentioned some sort of converter that had a 1.2x > magnification that IIRC was supposed to allow Pentax SLR > lenses to be used on Leicas (no not in production). The > limited lenses are all about 1.2x off from more common focal > lengths. Of course you are free to believe that 1.2 factor > on all the limited lenses is just a coincidence. Hi Tom, The FA 43mm LTD was released in Japan with Leica screw mount and a flash shoe mounted finder. Since the mounting flange to film plane is distance on the Leica (range-finders) is much less than the Pentax SLR there is no need for optical convertors, the lens simply has to be placed a little further forward of the Leica mount. I don't know if the Pentax lens in Leica screw mount provided for range-finder coupling either, this would significantly reduce its appeal to all but die-hard fans as scale focus would be the only option. I haven't heard any news of the other Ltd lenses being available in screw. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clue re next limited lens
- Original Message - From: "Tom Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: May 21, 2001 11:53 AM Subject: Re: Clue re next limited lens > If there actually is to be a 23mm Limited lens it will > undoubtedly be far more compact and sturdily built as well > as more expensive than the FA 24/2. Therefor, it would not > be a direct competitor. > > --Tom I bet it's a 19mm William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clue re next limited lens
On Mon, 21 May 2001, William Robb wrote: > I bet it's a 19mm > William Robb I'm going for a 21mm, myself, unless they come out with the Limited telephoto. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clue re next limited lens
I have a HUGE spider crawling accross my monitor. I HATE spiders. L8R Bill - Original Message - From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: May 21, 2001 10:10 PM Subject: Re: Clue re next limited lens > On Mon, 21 May 2001, William Robb wrote: > > > I bet it's a 19mm > > William Robb > > I'm going for a 21mm, myself, unless they come out with the Limited > telephoto. > > chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clue re next limited lens
>I have a HUGE spider crawling accross my monitor. >I HATE spiders. >L8R >Bill Cool. How many mm? If it helps, don't think of it as "a spider". Think of it as "a fabulously engineered, autonomous, self-replicating, AI, bio-tech pest control device". So expensive even Bill Gates couldn't have one built for himself even if he blew his entire wad--and yet, you get 'em free. The only bad thing about the spiders in our house is they don't sweep up their "empties" (rollypolies making a wrong turn at the screen door, mostly, occassionally each other). They come in the standard black and grey Pentax colors, too. Gotta have 'em. Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] (What we need on this continent are more spiders and wasps and less bug spray.) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clue re next limited lens
If we're going to bet on the new Limited wide-angle lens I'd bet on 22mm. If Pentax is consistent, the 43mm lens was midway between 50mm & 35mm. The 31mm was midway between 35mm & 28mm. A 22mm lens would fall midway between 24mm & 20mm lens offerings. For a medium telephoto I'd predict a 110mm lens. Which would probably be followed by 175mm & 250mm telephoto lenses. And I still think if there is a 18mm lens in the near future it will be an FA* lens. An 18mm f/2.8 is a pretty standard ultra-wide-angle lens offering! Alexander Grigolia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clue re next limited lens
You can always buy a new monitor as they are getting very cheap! - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 11:24 PM Subject: Re: Clue re next limited lens I have a HUGE spider crawling accross my monitor. I HATE spiders. L8R Bill - Original Message - From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: May 21, 2001 10:10 PM Subject: Re: Clue re next limited lens > On Mon, 21 May 2001, William Robb wrote: > > > I bet it's a 19mm > > William Robb > > I'm going for a 21mm, myself, unless they come out with the Limited > telephoto. > > chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clue re next limited lens
At 01:53 PM 5/21/01 -0400, you wrote: >The Limited lenses are intended to compete directly with >Leica. Leica has always had a 90mm. Furthermore, someone on >the list mentioned some sort of converter that had a 1.2x >magnification that IIRC was supposed to allow Pentax SLR >lenses to be used on Leicas (no not in production). The >limited lenses are all about 1.2x off from more common focal >lengths. Of course you are free to believe that 1.2 factor >on all the limited lenses is just a coincidence. I don't see Pentax trying to compete with Lieca with the limined lenses, it seems more like they are building lenses for a niche market other SLRs makers are mostly ignoring. And if they wanted to compete with Lieca why not release 50mm, 90mm, instead of focal lengths 1.2x off? And are you talking about Leica SLRs or rangefinders for this adaptor? I would think an adaptor to the rangefinders would be nearly useless, as there would be no linkages to the focus aids in the viewfinder, leaving just the distance scale to focus with. Plus a large SLR lens would probably block the viewfinder. So that leaves Leica SLRs. Anyway such an adaptor would take away part of the uniqueness of these lenses - the odd focal lengths. > >The problem with your 120 or 150 is that Pentax has made >lenses of those focal lengths and none of the Limited lenses >so far have been of common focal lengths. Also all the >Limited lenses so far have a focal length that end in odd >numbers. So I seriously doubt your prediction. I meant 120-150mm, as in a range of focal lengths. There were even rumors of something like a 124mm Macro a while back. > >If there actually is to be a 23mm Limited lens it will >undoubtedly be far more compact and sturdily built as well >as more expensive than the FA 24/2. Therefor, it would not >be a direct competitor. Better built, definently. But a 23mm Limited lens can not be much smaller than the FA 24mm unless they choose something slower than a F1.8 or F1.9 opening. Fast lenses need big glass, and you aren't going to be able to cram a 23mm F1.9 lens into a small package. On the other hand I called Pentax nuts for making the 43mm F1.9 limited, as it would compete too closely with the cheaper and faster 50mm lenses, but I was wrong. Todd - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clue re next limited lens
Well Bill, Since someone here on the list said he actually knows someone who got to use the 23mm for a week, I would guess there is at least a prototype in existance. Me? At this point I would be suprised to see a limited that did not maintain that 1.2x ratio. But, of course, my actual knowledge of what Pentax is doing is about the same as most other members on the list, pure speculation, so you have as much of a chance as I do of being right. --Tom William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Tom Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: May 21, 2001 11:53 AM > Subject: Re: Clue re next limited lens > > > If there actually is to be a 23mm Limited lens it will > > undoubtedly be far more compact and sturdily built as well > > as more expensive than the FA 24/2. Therefor, it would not > > be a direct competitor. > > > > --Tom > > I bet it's a 19mm > William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clue re next limited lens
On Tue, 22 May 2001, Tom Rittenhouse wrote: > At this point I would be suprised to see a limited that did not > maintain that 1.2x ratio. 31mm = 1.107x (from 28mm) 43mm = 1.229x (from 35mm) 77mm = 0.906x (from 85mm) A 1.2x ratio taken from 28mm, 35mm and 85mm lenses would give focal lengths of 34mm, 42mm and 102mm respectively (or would be taken from lenses with focal lengths of 26mm, 36mm and 64mm respectively), so I'm not sure where you took that number from, unless it's derived from the 43mm Limited ratio. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
