RE: Dueling Leicas
Some of you may recall that Bill Sawyer, Ken Waller and I went to the Robert Frank exhibit last weekend. Bill brought his M7 and I brought my iiif RD, just to keep in the spirit of things. I threw an old roll of Portra 160 in it. It was outdated by four or five years but had been in the freezer. This is cropped to vertical from a horizontal shot, scanned on my flatbed Epson 3200. The lens is the Summicron 50/2.5. That's part of the Diego Rivera mural in the lobby behind Bill. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11122047 since taking my M3 up to Milton Keynes last week I've been getting a lot of enjoyment out of using it again this week. It really is a superb camera. I hope the digitial Ms, maybe the M10, return to the same size as the M3. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dueling Leicas
On Jun 12, 2010, at 1:58 AM, Bill Sawyer wrote: Who's the fat guy?? Me! Bill Sawyer -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P N Stenquist Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 9:24 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Dueling Leicas Some of you may recall that Bill Sawyer, Ken Waller and I went to the Robert Frank exhibit last weekend. Bill brought his M7 and I brought my iiif RD, just to keep in the spirit of things. I threw an old roll of Portra 160 in it. It was outdated by four or five years but had been in the freezer. This is cropped to vertical from a horizontal shot, scanned on my flatbed Epson 3200. The lens is the Summicron 50/2.5. That's part of the Diego Rivera mural in the lobby behind Bill. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11122047 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dueling Leicas
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 4:51 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: since taking my M3 up to Milton Keynes last week I've been getting a lot of enjoyment out of using it again this week. It really is a superb camera. I hope the digitial Ms, maybe the M10, return to the same size as the M3. Bob The digital M's will always be thicker than the film bodies, you have to put the sensor and LCD somewhere and the mount dictates a minimum depth. The other dimensions can be shaved though. -Adam Who needs to get his M3 fixed -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dueling Leicas
What? You don;t think someday we'll have spray on sensors built by
nanotech, only a little thicker than traditional film?
On 6/12/2010 9:10 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 4:51 AM, Bob Wp...@web-options.com wrote:
since taking my M3 up to Milton Keynes last week I've been getting a lot of
enjoyment out of using it again this week. It really is a superb camera. I
hope the digitial Ms, maybe the M10, return to the same size as the M3.
Bob
The digital M's will always be thicker than the film bodies, you have
to put the sensor and LCD somewhere and the mount dictates a minimum
depth. The other dimensions can be shaved though.
-Adam
Who needs to get his M3 fixed
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RE: Dueling Leicas
I'm giving up beer pizza today. And reactivating my gym membership. Shees, nothing like a good picture of yourself to ruin a day.. Bill Sawyer -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of paul stenquist Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 7:39 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Dueling Leicas On Jun 12, 2010, at 1:58 AM, Bill Sawyer wrote: Who's the fat guy?? Me! Bill Sawyer -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P N Stenquist Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 9:24 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Dueling Leicas Some of you may recall that Bill Sawyer, Ken Waller and I went to the Robert Frank exhibit last weekend. Bill brought his M7 and I brought my iiif RD, just to keep in the spirit of things. I threw an old roll of Portra 160 in it. It was outdated by four or five years but had been in the freezer. This is cropped to vertical from a horizontal shot, scanned on my flatbed Epson 3200. The lens is the Summicron 50/2.5. That's part of the Diego Rivera mural in the lobby behind Bill. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11122047 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 6:23 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Some of you may recall that Bill Sawyer, Ken Waller and I went to the Robert Frank exhibit last weekend. Bill brought his M7 and I brought my iiif RD, just to keep in the spirit of things. I threw an old roll of Portra 160 in it. It was outdated by four or five years but had been in the freezer. This is cropped to vertical from a horizontal shot, scanned on my flatbed Epson 3200. The lens is the Summicron 50/2.5. That's part of the Diego Rivera mural in the lobby behind Bill. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11122047 Nice! But Summicron 50mm f/2.5? I thought all Summicrons were f/2. Minor point. ;-) Every so often I think about my old favorite M4-P and would like it back again. But not enough to put out the money for one. I figure when my ship comes in (again), I'll buy an M9. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Le 12/06/10 15:22, Bill Sawyer a écrit : I'm giving up beer pizza today. And reactivating my gym membership. Shees, nothing like a good picture of yourself to ruin a day.. Bill Sawyer agreed ... photography _can_ be dangerous for one's peace of mind ... :-D O:-) ... dominique -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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We compared Bill's M7 to my iiif. The lare-model M is quite a bit larger than the old Barnack Leica. Paul On Jun 12, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Adam Maas wrote: On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 4:51 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: since taking my M3 up to Milton Keynes last week I've been getting a lot of enjoyment out of using it again this week. It really is a superb camera. I hope the digitial Ms, maybe the M10, return to the same size as the M3. Bob The digital M's will always be thicker than the film bodies, you have to put the sensor and LCD somewhere and the mount dictates a minimum depth. The other dimensions can be shaved though. -Adam Who needs to get his M3 fixed -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Remember this was dueling Leicas. Somewhere in that camera is a a photo of me that's far more damning:-). Paul On Jun 12, 2010, at 9:22 AM, Bill Sawyer wrote: I'm giving up beer pizza today. And reactivating my gym membership. Shees, nothing like a good picture of yourself to ruin a day.. Bill Sawyer -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of paul stenquist Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 7:39 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Dueling Leicas On Jun 12, 2010, at 1:58 AM, Bill Sawyer wrote: Who's the fat guy?? Me! Bill Sawyer -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P N Stenquist Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 9:24 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Dueling Leicas Some of you may recall that Bill Sawyer, Ken Waller and I went to the Robert Frank exhibit last weekend. Bill brought his M7 and I brought my iiif RD, just to keep in the spirit of things. I threw an old roll of Portra 160 in it. It was outdated by four or five years but had been in the freezer. This is cropped to vertical from a horizontal shot, scanned on my flatbed Epson 3200. The lens is the Summicron 50/2.5. That's part of the Diego Rivera mural in the lobby behind Bill. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11122047 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 12, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 6:23 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Some of you may recall that Bill Sawyer, Ken Waller and I went to the Robert Frank exhibit last weekend. Bill brought his M7 and I brought my iiif RD, just to keep in the spirit of things. I threw an old roll of Portra 160 in it. It was outdated by four or five years but had been in the freezer. This is cropped to vertical from a horizontal shot, scanned on my flatbed Epson 3200. The lens is the Summicron 50/2.5. That's part of the Diego Rivera mural in the lobby behind Bill. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11122047 Nice! But Summicron 50mm f/2.5? I thought all Summicrons were f/2. Minor point. ;-) Every so often I think about my old favorite M4-P and would like it back again. But not enough to put out the money for one. I figure when my ship comes in (again), I'll buy an M9. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com You're right of course. The Summicron is an f2. I haven't used the Leica in so long my memory failed me. I may yet sell my little bit of Leica gear some day. Haven't had to yet, but if the right camera calls out to me, I'll unload it. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/6/10, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: The digital M's will always be thicker than the film bodies, you have to put the sensor and LCD somewhere and the mount dictates a minimum depth. The other dimensions can be shaved though. Adam, what's the comparison like between the R-D1 and an M8/9 for body thickness? I always found the R-D1 to be superbly proportioned... -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 12/6/10, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: The digital M's will always be thicker than the film bodies, you have to put the sensor and LCD somewhere and the mount dictates a minimum depth. The other dimensions can be shaved though. Adam, what's the comparison like between the R-D1 and an M8/9 for body thickness? I always found the R-D1 to be superbly proportioned... -- Cheers, Cotty Depends on the RD-1 (the x is a bit thinner than the original or the s version) but roughly the same thickness. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Dueling Leicas
[...] camera. I hope the digitial Ms, maybe the M10, return to the same size as the M3. Bob The digital M's will always be thicker than the film bodies, you have to put the sensor and LCD somewhere and the mount dictates a minimum depth. The other dimensions can be shaved though. They'll just have to make the sensor and everything narrower then. Isn't that what we pay scientists for? Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Who's the fat guy?? Bill Sawyer -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P N Stenquist Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 9:24 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Dueling Leicas Some of you may recall that Bill Sawyer, Ken Waller and I went to the Robert Frank exhibit last weekend. Bill brought his M7 and I brought my iiif RD, just to keep in the spirit of things. I threw an old roll of Portra 160 in it. It was outdated by four or five years but had been in the freezer. This is cropped to vertical from a horizontal shot, scanned on my flatbed Epson 3200. The lens is the Summicron 50/2.5. That's part of the Diego Rivera mural in the lobby behind Bill. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11122047 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
