Re: Efke 25, 50, 100
- Original Message - From: Henri Toivonen Subject: Re: Efke 25, 50, 100 Graywolf wrote: They are the same as the old Adox films. The are rather old fashioned, but if you like the old stule look, as many of us do, they are great. The 25 has finer grain than Panatomic did. The 100 has nothing special to recomend it over other 100 speed films but many of us used the slower films extensively back in the old days. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof Yeah I have read this on the net. Unfortunately I have never heard of/used neither Adox films nor Pantomic, since I'm young and haven't been doing this for more than about a year. I've heard nice things about Efke, though I haven't used the stuff myself. I would get a brick of the stuff and try it out. If, after shooting 10 rolls of it, you don't have a use for it, try something else. William Robb
Re: Efke 25, 50, 100
Best way is to try some. Even if I love the stuff, you may not; or vis versa. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Henri Toivonen wrote: Graywolf wrote: They are the same as the old Adox films. The are rather old fashioned, but if you like the old stule look, as many of us do, they are great. The 25 has finer grain than Panatomic did. The 100 has nothing special to recomend it over other 100 speed films but many of us used the slower films extensively back in the old days. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof Yeah I have read this on the net. Unfortunately I have never heard of/used neither Adox films nor Pantomic, since I'm young and haven't been doing this for more than about a year. /Henri
Re: Efke 25, 50, 100
I shot a roll of the 120. It curled so bad when drying that it was almost impossible to print. The nets looked good, but if I can't get it to dry relatively flat, the look is kind of beside the point. It would have required a glass negative carrier. Paul On Dec 11, 2004, at 5:36 PM, Henri Toivonen wrote: I'm a bit curious about these films, they are VERY cheap to order from Germany and I have read some comments that they are incredibly sharp with minimal grain. So I'm considering to buy a 10pack and try it out. Though I read somewhere something about limited red sensitivity and that you get a turn of the century look with them, and I don't really understand what this means. So I ask you, comments on these films? /Henri
Re: Efke 25, 50, 100
Hi Paul, I have a few rolls of 120 in the freezer, although I've not used any yet. I've heard about the curling problem once before, yet others who have used the film have made no mention of it. That said, now that I've a med format camera, I'm anxious to try a roll or two myself. Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] I shot a roll of the 120. It curled so bad when drying that it was almost impossible to print. The nets looked good, but if I can't get it to dry relatively flat, the look is kind of beside the point. It would have required a glass negative carrier.
Re: Efke 25, 50, 100
Early Pan films had a decidedly blue sensitivity. In fact early films were ortho chromatic with no red sensitivity at all. They give a decidedly unnatural look to skin tones. You can however develop them under a red safelight. I haven't seen them so I can't speak to their grain structure but I'd expect very fine grain from film with an ISO of 25 or 50. Henri Toivonen wrote: I'm a bit curious about these films, they are VERY cheap to order from Germany and I have read some comments that they are incredibly sharp with minimal grain. So I'm considering to buy a 10pack and try it out. Though I read somewhere something about limited red sensitivity and that you get a turn of the century look with them, and I don't really understand what this means. So I ask you, comments on these films? /Henri -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: Efke 25, 50, 100
Hi, The original message has not appeared here. I've used a few rolls of Efke 25 ands like it quite a bit. It's sharp, has nice tonality in ID-11, the grain structure is fine and tight, certainly on par with Panatomic-X. But, since you don't know about the older films the only real suggestion is to buy some, process it, print it, and see if you like it. No matter what anyone here says about the film, if you have no point of reference for it, the comments are meaningless. If you've never worked with such slow film before, which is often more contrasty than faster film, you'll definitely want to establish your own EI for it. All of the slow, fine grained films I've used required very careful exposure and processing when used in bright sunlight. I can't tell you haw many rolls of Panatomic-X I ruined because of not knowing know how to make a proper exposure with it in bright sunlight. and relied only on normal development.. Learn to expose and develop it (and any other BW film) properly and you'll end up with great negs and fine prints. Shel Yeah I have read this on the net. Unfortunately I have never heard of/used neither Adox films nor Pantomic, since I'm young and haven't been doing this for more than about a year. /Henri
Re: Efke 25, 50, 100
They are the same as the old Adox films. The are rather old fashioned, but if you like the old stule look, as many of us do, they are great. The 25 has finer grain than Panatomic did. The 100 has nothing special to recomend it over other 100 speed films but many of us used the slower films extensively back in the old days. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Henri Toivonen wrote: I'm a bit curious about these films, they are VERY cheap to order from Germany and I have read some comments that they are incredibly sharp with minimal grain. So I'm considering to buy a 10pack and try it out. Though I read somewhere something about limited red sensitivity and that you get a turn of the century look with them, and I don't really understand what this means. So I ask you, comments on these films? /Henri
Re: Efke 25, 50, 100
Graywolf wrote: They are the same as the old Adox films. The are rather old fashioned, but if you like the old stule look, as many of us do, they are great. The 25 has finer grain than Panatomic did. The 100 has nothing special to recomend it over other 100 speed films but many of us used the slower films extensively back in the old days. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof Yeah I have read this on the net. Unfortunately I have never heard of/used neither Adox films nor Pantomic, since I'm young and haven't been doing this for more than about a year. /Henri
Re: Efke 25
Thanks for sharing your impressions, Paul. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Efke 25
Hi Paul, on the danger of sounding like a Rodinal addict, try the Efke film with rodinal... if what I heard about the Efke is true, it might make an excellent combination. IIRC these films are the thick-emulsion types, so little less sharp than the newer tri-x or hp5 films, but offering much better tonality, it's a trade-off... See my old post on silver-rich films for possible explanation. Frantisek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
