Re: Email delivery problems with the PDML(was OT: Non-Microsoft browsers are most secure choice)
Seems odd to me that the only one of nearly 600 subscribers complaining about this issue is you. Have you given any thought to the idea that maybe the problem is at your end? Bill - Original Message - From: "Antonio Aparicio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 8:11 AM Subject: OT: Email delivery problems with the PDML(was OT: Non-Microsoft browsers are most secure choice) > Hi Doug, > > Well I have been using the internet since Telnet and IRC, some 20 years > ago and all I can say is that there is something wrong with this list. > Emails are clearly not getting through. I am not the only one to > experience this. Instead of berating me for raising the issue, or > blaming me for not addressing a message properly (something I have not > done), it would be helpful if you would at leas say you will look into > the issue, rather than making arrogant comments about Gatesian > conspiracies - something neither I nor anyone else who is having > problems has even mentioned. > > A.
Re: Email delivery problems with the PDML(was OT: Non-Microsoft browsers are most secure choice)
Bill, actually quite a few people have been having this problem, but even if I was the only one I still think it deserves some attention. A. On 8 Jul 2004, at 14:45, Bill Owens wrote: Seems odd to me that the only one of nearly 600 subscribers complaining about this issue is you. Have you given any thought to the idea that maybe the problem is at your end? Bill - Original Message - From: "Antonio Aparicio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 8:11 AM Subject: OT: Email delivery problems with the PDML(was OT: Non-Microsoft browsers are most secure choice) Hi Doug, Well I have been using the internet since Telnet and IRC, some 20 years ago and all I can say is that there is something wrong with this list. Emails are clearly not getting through. I am not the only one to experience this. Instead of berating me for raising the issue, or blaming me for not addressing a message properly (something I have not done), it would be helpful if you would at leas say you will look into the issue, rather than making arrogant comments about Gatesian conspiracies - something neither I nor anyone else who is having problems has even mentioned. A.
Re: Email delivery problems with the PDML(was OT: Non-Microsoft browsers are most secure choice)
In my humble opinion, this list is tops in service compared to others I participate in. I second Dan's comments without reservation. Otis Wright. Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I, for one, have had no problems with this list, although there have been problems from time to time on other lists to which I belong. We owe a huge debt of gratitude to those who sent up and run this list and the PUG. Bill Owens wrote: Seems odd to me that the only one of nearly 600 subscribers complaining about this issue is you. Have you given any thought to the idea that maybe the problem is at your end?
Re: Email delivery problems with the PDML(was OT: Non-Microsoft browsers are most secure choice)
On 8 Jul 2004 at 10:24, Norm Baugher wrote: > You're damn right Antonio! What does vitriol mean? It's empathy, tolerance, compromise and integration that he doesn't understand :-( Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Email delivery problems with the PDML(was OT: Non-Microsoft browsers are most secure choice)
Well Rob, when you are debating a subject you normally have a different opinion to some other folks, so I dont really see how "integration" would be relevant. As to empathy, tolerance and compromise, it is very hard to feel any of those when you are the subject of an ongoing torrent of abuse and attack. If that is what you are seeking then perhaps you should go about it another way. A. On 8 Jul 2004, at 17:34, Rob Studdert wrote: On 8 Jul 2004 at 10:24, Norm Baugher wrote: You're damn right Antonio! What does vitriol mean? It's empathy, tolerance, compromise and integration that he doesn't understand :-( Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Email delivery problems with the PDML(was OT: Non-Microsoft browsers are most secure choice)
Amazing! I said nothing against anyone. I expressed an opinion, and then stated that Doug and the others who manage the list and the PUG deserve our gratitude. Where was the "vitriol" in my post? Why do you question my honesty? You may be the most highly sensitive and argumentative person I have met, on the net or otherwise. Please calm down. Antonio Aparicio wrote: Daniel, Is it not possible for you to contribute to a thread without turning it into a for or against situation? Nobody has expressed any ingratitude to Doug, that is not the issue. The issue is that some people are not receiving messages as they should. Why can that not be discussed openly and honestly, without the vitriol? A. On 8 Jul 2004, at 15:09, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I, for one, have had no problems with this list, although there have been problems from time to time on other lists to which I belong. We owe a huge debt of gratitude to those who sent up and run this list and the PUG.
Re: Email delivery problems with the PDML(was OT: Non-Microsoft browsers are most secure choice)
Amazing! I said nothing against anyone. I expressed an opinion, and then stated that Doug and the others who manage the list and the PUG deserve our gratitude. Where was the "vitriol" in my post? Why do you question my honesty? You may be the most highly sensitive and argumentative person I have met, on the net or otherwise. Please calm down. Antonio Aparicio wrote: Daniel, Is it not possible for you to contribute to a thread without turning it into a for or against situation? Nobody has expressed any ingratitude to Doug, that is not the issue. The issue is that some people are not receiving messages as they should. Why can that not be discussed openly and honestly, without the vitriol? A. On 8 Jul 2004, at 15:09, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I, for one, have had no problems with this list, although there have been problems from time to time on other lists to which I belong. We owe a huge debt of gratitude to those who sent up and run this list and the PUG.
Re: Email delivery problems with the PDML(was OT: Non-Microsoft browsers are most secure choice)
This is amazing. I've suddenly become a member of the OTEMAILBROWSERBYE mailing list without even subscribing. How can they do that? Tom C.
Re: Email delivery problems with the PDML(was OT: Non-Microsoft browsers are most secure choice)
--- Norm Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're damn right Antonio! What does vitriol mean? > Norm Norm, Isn't that the stuff that men used to put in their hair to, you know, like slick it down? Back in the 50's and 60's, there was Brylcreem and Vitriol, IIRC (I was only a kid then). HTH, frank = "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: Email delivery problems with the PDML(was OT: Non-Microsoft browsers are most secure choice)
--- Norm Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now Mr. Owens, are you suggesting that it would be > Antonio's fault? My > good man, I'm sure you don't really mean that. > Norm Norm, You sarcastic bastard. Do you have to turn everything into a "for or against" scenario? Why don't you just unsubscribe, and leave us alone. Further, I think I'm going to have a beer now. Excuse me while I go to the fridge. Most importantly, cheers, frank = "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: Email delivery problems with the PDML(was OT: Non-Microsoft browsers are most secure choice)
Bob W wrote: > [ from Knarf ] > > Isn't that the stuff that men used to put in their > > hair to, you know, like slick it down? Back in the > > 50's and 60's, there was Brylcreem and Vitriol, IIRC > > (I was only a kid then). > No - you must be thinking of Victrola... you're both off the mark - it was Vitalis
