Re: FWIW
Thanks Dan, I appreciate your comment. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" Subject: Re: FWIW Simply superior in every aspect. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Gonz wrote: Amazing, sharp, and dramatic capture! Congrats. On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > Was just notified that my image 'North Face of Denali' placed third out of > approximately 185 submissions in the monthly photo contest 'Monochrome' > sponsored by Pentax Forums. Whoopi ! > > Link to image - http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17185812 > I was approximately 23 miles north of Denali when I took this image - > so > thankful for clean air ! > > Taken with MZ-S, 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, A-1.4XL converter on a Kirk King Cobra > gimbal head and Gitzo tripod, scanned on a Nikon Super coolscan 4000 > ED and perfected in PS. > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FWIW
Thanks Gonz. This image also captured first place in an Alaska Magazine contest a few years back. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Gonz" Subject: Re: FWIW Amazing, sharp, and dramatic capture! Congrats. On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Was just notified that my image 'North Face of Denali' placed third out of approximately 185 submissions in the monthly photo contest 'Monochrome' sponsored by Pentax Forums. Whoopi ! Link to image - http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17185812 I was approximately 23 miles north of Denali when I took this image - so thankful for clean air ! Taken with MZ-S, 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, A-1.4XL converter on a Kirk King Cobra gimbal head and Gitzo tripod, scanned on a Nikon Super coolscan 4000 ED and perfected in PS. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FWIW
Simply superior in every aspect. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Gonz wrote: > Amazing, sharp, and dramatic capture! Congrats. > > > On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > > Was just notified that my image 'North Face of Denali' placed third out > of > > approximately 185 submissions in the monthly photo contest 'Monochrome' > > sponsored by Pentax Forums. Whoopi ! > > > > Link to image - http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17185812 > > I was approximately 23 miles north of Denali when I took this image - so > > thankful for clean air ! > > > > Taken with MZ-S, 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, A-1.4XL converter on a Kirk King > Cobra > > gimbal head and Gitzo tripod, scanned on a Nikon Super coolscan 4000 > > ED and perfected in PS. > > > > Kenneth Waller > > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > > > > -- > -- Reduce your Government Footprint > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FWIW
Amazing, sharp, and dramatic capture! Congrats. On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > Was just notified that my image 'North Face of Denali' placed third out of > approximately 185 submissions in the monthly photo contest 'Monochrome' > sponsored by Pentax Forums. Whoopi ! > > Link to image - http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17185812 > I was approximately 23 miles north of Denali when I took this image - so > thankful for clean air ! > > Taken with MZ-S, 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, A-1.4XL converter on a Kirk King Cobra > gimbal head and Gitzo tripod, scanned on a Nikon Super coolscan 4000 > ED and perfected in PS. > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FWIW
Thanks Zos and David B for commenting. Damn, That should be first place. Actually the first place image is equal or better IMO. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Zos Xavius" Subject: Re: FWIW Damn, That should be first place. :) On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 11:52 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Thanks Bob, Paul, Christine, Daniel, Ann, Malcolm, Jack, Marco, Paul in MKE, Stan, Eric, Philip, Alan and John for looking and commenting. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Bob W-PDML" Subject: Re: FWIW That's a really spectacular shot, well deserving of a prize. B Ken Waller wrote: Was just notified that my image 'North Face of Denali' placed third out of approximately 185 submissions in the monthly photo contest 'Monochrome' sponsored by Pentax Forums. Whoopi ! Link to image - http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17185812 I was approximately 23 miles north of Denali when I took this image - so thankful for clean air ! Taken with MZ-S, 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, A-1.4XL converter on a Kirk King Cobra gimbal head and Gitzo tripod, scanned on a Nikon Super coolscan 4000 ED and perfected in PS. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FWIW
Well done Ken and a great image Dave On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > Was just notified that my image 'North Face of Denali' placed third out of > approximately 185 submissions in the monthly photo contest 'Monochrome' > sponsored by Pentax Forums. Whoopi ! > > Link to image - http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17185812 > I was approximately 23 miles north of Denali when I took this image - so > thankful for clean air ! > > Taken with MZ-S, 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, A-1.4XL converter on a Kirk King Cobra > gimbal head and Gitzo tripod, scanned on a Nikon Super coolscan 4000 > ED and perfected in PS. > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FWIW
Damn, That should be first place. :) On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 11:52 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > Thanks Bob, Paul, Christine, Daniel, Ann, Malcolm, Jack, Marco, Paul in MKE, > Stan, Eric, Philip, Alan and John for looking and commenting. > > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > - Original Message - From: "Bob W-PDML" > Subject: Re: FWIW > > > >> That's a really spectacular shot, well deserving of a prize. >> >> B >> >>> >>> Ken Waller wrote: >>> >>> Was just notified that my image 'North Face of Denali' placed third out >>> of >>> approximately 185 submissions in the monthly photo contest 'Monochrome' >>> sponsored by Pentax Forums. Whoopi ! >>> >>> Link to image - http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17185812 >>> I was approximately 23 miles north of Denali when I took this image - so >>> thankful for clean air ! >>> >>> Taken with MZ-S, 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, A-1.4XL converter on a Kirk King >>> Cobra >>> gimbal head and Gitzo tripod, scanned on a Nikon Super coolscan 4000 ED >>> and >>> perfected in PS. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FWIW
Thanks Bob, Paul, Christine, Daniel, Ann, Malcolm, Jack, Marco, Paul in MKE, Stan, Eric, Philip, Alan and John for looking and commenting. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Bob W-PDML" Subject: Re: FWIW That's a really spectacular shot, well deserving of a prize. B Ken Waller wrote: Was just notified that my image 'North Face of Denali' placed third out of approximately 185 submissions in the monthly photo contest 'Monochrome' sponsored by Pentax Forums. Whoopi ! Link to image - http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17185812 I was approximately 23 miles north of Denali when I took this image - so thankful for clean air ! Taken with MZ-S, 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, A-1.4XL converter on a Kirk King Cobra gimbal head and Gitzo tripod, scanned on a Nikon Super coolscan 4000 ED and perfected in PS. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FWIW
Tres cool! On 11/25/2016 3:25 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Was just notified that my image 'North Face of Denali' placed third out of approximately 185 submissions in the monthly photo contest 'Monochrome' sponsored by Pentax Forums. Whoopi ! Link to image - http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17185812 I was approximately 23 miles north of Denali when I took this image - so thankful for clean air ! Taken with MZ-S, 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, A-1.4XL converter on a Kirk King Cobra gimbal head and Gitzo tripod, scanned on a Nikon Super coolscan 4000 ED and perfected in PS. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FWIW
Well deserved. A wonderful image. 940mm! Alan C -Original Message- From: Ken Waller Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 10:25 PM To: pentax list Subject: FWIW Was just notified that my image 'North Face of Denali' placed third out of approximately 185 submissions in the monthly photo contest 'Monochrome' sponsored by Pentax Forums. Whoopi ! Link to image - http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17185812 I was approximately 23 miles north of Denali when I took this image - so thankful for clean air ! Taken with MZ-S, 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, A-1.4XL converter on a Kirk King Cobra gimbal head and Gitzo tripod, scanned on a Nikon Super coolscan 4000 ED and perfected in PS. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FWIW
Dramatic Philip Northeast www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au On 26/11/16 7:25 am, Ken Waller wrote: Was just notified that my image 'North Face of Denali' placed third out of approximately 185 submissions in the monthly photo contest 'Monochrome' sponsored by Pentax Forums. Whoopi ! Link to image - http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17185812 I was approximately 23 miles north of Denali when I took this image - so thankful for clean air ! Taken with MZ-S, 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, A-1.4XL converter on a Kirk King Cobra gimbal head and Gitzo tripod, scanned on a Nikon Super coolscan 4000 ED and perfected in PS. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FWIW
On 25 November 2016 at 20:25, Ken Waller wrote: > Was just notified that my image 'North Face of Denali' placed third out of > approximately 185 submissions in the monthly photo contest 'Monochrome' > sponsored by Pentax Forums. Whoopi ! > > Link to image - http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17185812 > I was approximately 23 miles north of Denali when I took this image - so > thankful for clean air ! > > Taken with MZ-S, 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, A-1.4XL converter on a Kirk King Cobra > gimbal head and Gitzo tripod, scanned on a Nikon Super coolscan 4000 > ED and perfected in PS. That's excellent. Congratulations! -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FWIW
> On Nov 25, 2016, at 3:25 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > > Was just notified that my image 'North Face of Denali' placed third out of > approximately 185 submissions in the monthly photo contest 'Monochrome' > sponsored by Pentax Forums. Whoopi ! > > Link to image - http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17185812 > I was approximately 23 miles north of Denali when I took this image - so > thankful for clean air ! > > Taken with MZ-S, 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, A-1.4XL converter on a Kirk King Cobra > gimbal head and Gitzo tripod, scanned on a Nikon Super coolscan 4000 > ED and perfected in PS. > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > Very niceI stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FWIW
That's a really spectacular shot, well deserving of a prize. B > > Ken Waller wrote: > > Was just notified that my image 'North Face of Denali' placed third out of > approximately 185 submissions in the monthly photo contest 'Monochrome' > sponsored by Pentax Forums. Whoopi ! > > Link to image - http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17185812 > I was approximately 23 miles north of Denali when I took this image - so > thankful for clean air ! > > Taken with MZ-S, 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, A-1.4XL converter on a Kirk King Cobra > gimbal head and Gitzo tripod, scanned on a Nikon Super coolscan 4000 ED and > perfected in PS. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FWIW
Stunning! Congrats... -p On 11/25/2016 2:25 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Was just notified that my image 'North Face of Denali' placed third out of approximately 185 submissions in the monthly photo contest 'Monochrome' sponsored by Pentax Forums. Whoopi ! Link to image - http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17185812 I was approximately 23 miles north of Denali when I took this image - so thankful for clean air ! Taken with MZ-S, 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, A-1.4XL converter on a Kirk King Cobra gimbal head and Gitzo tripod, scanned on a Nikon Super coolscan 4000 ED and perfected in PS. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FWIW
Congratulations! (And well deserved.) - Marco > On Nov 25, 2016, at 12:25 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > > Was just notified that my image 'North Face of Denali' placed third out of > approximately 185 submissions in the monthly photo contest 'Monochrome' > sponsored by Pentax Forums. Whoopi ! > > Link to image - http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17185812 > I was approximately 23 miles north of Denali when I took this image - so > thankful for clean air ! > > Taken with MZ-S, 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, A-1.4XL converter on a Kirk King Cobra > gimbal head and Gitzo tripod, scanned on a Nikon Super coolscan 4000 > ED and perfected in PS. > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FWIW
Wonderfully clean image! Congrats! J Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 25, 2016, at 12:53 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > > woo woo though not surprised! > > ann > > >> On 11/25/2016 3:25 PM, Ken Waller wrote: >> Was just notified that my image 'North Face of Denali' placed third out of >> approximately 185 submissions in the monthly photo contest 'Monochrome' >> sponsored by Pentax Forums. Whoopi ! >> >> Link to image - http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17185812 >> I was approximately 23 miles north of Denali when I took this image - so >> thankful for clean air ! >> >> Taken with MZ-S, 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, A-1.4XL converter on a Kirk King Cobra >> gimbal head and Gitzo tripod, scanned on a Nikon Super coolscan 4000 >> ED and perfected in PS. >> >> Kenneth Waller >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: FWIW
Ken Waller wrote: Was just notified that my image 'North Face of Denali' placed third out of approximately 185 submissions in the monthly photo contest 'Monochrome' sponsored by Pentax Forums. Whoopi ! Link to image - http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17185812 I was approximately 23 miles north of Denali when I took this image - so thankful for clean air ! Taken with MZ-S, 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, A-1.4XL converter on a Kirk King Cobra gimbal head and Gitzo tripod, scanned on a Nikon Super coolscan 4000 ED and perfected in PS. +++ Well done Ken. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FWIW
woo woo though not surprised! ann On 11/25/2016 3:25 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Was just notified that my image 'North Face of Denali' placed third out of approximately 185 submissions in the monthly photo contest 'Monochrome' sponsored by Pentax Forums. Whoopi ! Link to image - http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17185812 I was approximately 23 miles north of Denali when I took this image - so thankful for clean air ! Taken with MZ-S, 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, A-1.4XL converter on a Kirk King Cobra gimbal head and Gitzo tripod, scanned on a Nikon Super coolscan 4000 ED and perfected in PS. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FWIW
Congratulations! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > Was just notified that my image 'North Face of Denali' placed third out of > approximately 185 submissions in the monthly photo contest 'Monochrome' > sponsored by Pentax Forums. Whoopi ! > > Link to image - http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17185812 > I was approximately 23 miles north of Denali when I took this image - so > thankful for clean air ! > > Taken with MZ-S, 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, A-1.4XL converter on a Kirk King Cobra > gimbal head and Gitzo tripod, scanned on a Nikon Super coolscan 4000 > ED and perfected in PS. > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FWIW
Congrats, Ken! Very nice! Cheers, Christine > On Nov 25, 2016, at 2:25 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > > Was just notified that my image 'North Face of Denali' placed third out of > approximately 185 submissions in the monthly photo contest 'Monochrome' > sponsored by Pentax Forums. Whoopi ! > > Link to image - http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17185812 > I was approximately 23 miles north of Denali when I took this image - so > thankful for clean air ! > > Taken with MZ-S, 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, A-1.4XL converter on a Kirk King Cobra > gimbal head and Gitzo tripod, scanned on a Nikon Super coolscan 4000 > ED and perfected in PS. > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FWIW
Well deserved. Congratulations! Paul via phone > On Nov 25, 2016, at 3:25 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > > Was just notified that my image 'North Face of Denali' placed third out of > approximately 185 submissions in the monthly photo contest 'Monochrome' > sponsored by Pentax Forums. Whoopi ! > > Link to image - http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17185812 > I was approximately 23 miles north of Denali when I took this image - so > thankful for clean air ! > > Taken with MZ-S, 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, A-1.4XL converter on a Kirk King Cobra > gimbal head and Gitzo tripod, scanned on a Nikon Super coolscan 4000 > ED and perfected in PS. > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FWIW - K3 W/BG5 grip @ B+H
Adorama also has it with an sd card for the same price. Larry in Dallas -Original Message- From: Ken Waller Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 11:08 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: FWIW - K3 W/BG5 grip @ B+H B+H offering K3 body with BG5 grip for $796.35 Thought some members would be interested in this. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FWIW - New Canon
- Original Message - From: "Adam Maas" Subject: Re: FWIW - New Canon >>>What is a "partial 9% at center" metering mode. Is that Canon-speak >>>for spot metering? >> >> >> Yup. > Umm, nope. > > Canon does do spot metering on their higher-end stuff (Pro film bodies > and all except the cheapest DSLR's). Partial metering is their sop to > the low-end users for ecluding basic functionality. In the low end market, a real spot meter is a detriment, since the user base doesn't know how to use it. Canon is actually pretty smart to put a loose spotmeter (actually a heavily center weighted meter) into their low end bodies. They've been doing the partial metering thing for years, generally around 10% of the image. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FWIW - New Canon
Mat Maessen wrote: > On 8/26/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06082416canoneos400drebelxti.asp >> >>It seems well enough spec'd. Canon at it's best. > > > What is a "partial 9% at center" metering mode. Is that Canon-speak > for spot metering? > > -Mat > This is a camera for rich teenagers. Canon, after extensive research, determined that the potential market was concerned about "really big spots" so has given the camera that mode. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FWIW - New Canon
William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Mat Maessen" > Subject: Re: FWIW - New Canon > > > >>On 8/26/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>>http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06082416canoneos400drebelxti.asp >>> >>>It seems well enough spec'd. Canon at it's best. >> >>What is a "partial 9% at center" metering mode. Is that Canon-speak >>for spot metering? > > > Yup. > > William Robb > > Umm, nope. Canon does do spot metering on their higher-end stuff (Pro film bodies and all except the cheapest DSLR's). Partial metering is their sop to the low-end users for ecluding basic functionality. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FWIW - New Canon
- Original Message - From: "Mat Maessen" Subject: Re: FWIW - New Canon > On 8/26/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06082416canoneos400drebelxti.asp >> It seems well enough spec'd. Canon at it's best. > > What is a "partial 9% at center" metering mode. Is that Canon-speak > for spot metering? Yup. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FWIW - New Canon
Mat Maessen wrote: > On 8/26/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06082416canoneos400drebelxti.asp >> >>It seems well enough spec'd. Canon at it's best. > > > What is a "partial 9% at center" metering mode. Is that Canon-speak > for spot metering? > > -Mat > Really fat spot-metering, it's the centre of the centre-weighted metering pattern, just without the rest of it. The XT is their only DSLR without real spot metering now (the 30D on up have ~2.5% spot metering). -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FWIW - New Canon
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 12:44:01PM -0400, Mat Maessen wrote: > On 8/26/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06082416canoneos400drebelxti.asp > > It seems well enough spec'd. Canon at it's best. > > What is a "partial 9% at center" metering mode. Is that Canon-speak > for spot metering? Not really - it's Canon-speak using numbers that tries to convince you they've got something like spot metering. Don't forget that's an area measure, so it's more like 30% of the width & height. In fact I'd bet that, as the metering area is probably rounded rather than rectangular, it's practically indistinguishable from what we think of as center-weighted (or centre-weighted) metering. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FWIW - New Canon
On 8/26/06 12:43 PM, "Adam Maas", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Excet it's now the only 10MP model without a decent viewfinder (the D80 > got the D200's viewfinder, which is as good or better than the D/DS > finder, the A100 has a finder similar to the DL). More MP means less forgiving for the shake. If the buyers re serious with this camera, they probably need IS glasses :-). Cheers, Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FWIW - New Canon
William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Shel Belinkoff" > Subject: FWIW - New Canon > > > >>http://tinyurl.com/o4ywe >>http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06082416canoneos400drebelxti.asp > > > It seems well enough spec'd. Canon at it's best. > > William Robb > > Excet it's now the only 10MP model without a decent viewfinder (the D80 got the D200's viewfinder, which is as good or better than the D/DS finder, the A100 has a finder similar to the DL). -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FWIW - New Canon
On 8/26/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06082416canoneos400drebelxti.asp > It seems well enough spec'd. Canon at it's best. What is a "partial 9% at center" metering mode. Is that Canon-speak for spot metering? -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FWIW - New Canon
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: FWIW - New Canon > http://tinyurl.com/o4ywe > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06082416canoneos400drebelxti.asp It seems well enough spec'd. Canon at it's best. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FWIW - New Canon
indeed... very Canon if you ask me ^^ Well, KM/Sony is even worse IMO... I woukdn't have imagine 2 years ago that KM would make bodies even more ugly than Canons... -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Still yes. On 8/26/06, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's an ugly looking bug of a camera, ain't it. > > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > >http://tinyurl.com/o4ywe > >http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06082416canoneos400drebelxti.asp > > > > > >Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Yes. On 8/26/06, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's an ugly looking bug of a camera, ain't it. > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > >http://tinyurl.com/o4ywe > >http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06082416canoneos400drebelxti.asp > > > > > >Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FWIW - New Canon
It's an ugly looking bug of a camera, ain't it. Shel Belinkoff wrote: >http://tinyurl.com/o4ywe >http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06082416canoneos400drebelxti.asp > > >Shel > > > > > > -- -- Its easy to understand why the cat has eclipsed the dog as modern America's favorite pet. People like pets to possess the same qualities they do. Cats are irresponsible and recognize no authority, yet are completely dependent on others for their material needs. Cats cannot be made to do anything useful. Cats are mean for the fun of it P. J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FWIW - New Canon
It's an ugly looking bug of a camera, ain't it. Shel Belinkoff wrote: >http://tinyurl.com/o4ywe >http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06082416canoneos400drebelxti.asp > > >Shel > > > > > > -- -- Its easy to understand why the cat has eclipsed the dog as modern America's favorite pet. People like pets to possess the same qualities they do. Cats are irresponsible and recognize no authority, yet are completely dependent on others for their material needs. Cats cannot be made to do anything useful. Cats are mean for the fun of it P. J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FWIW
I don't think it's comparing apples to apples, though. If you attempt to work out the cost per wafer (multiply the given unit cost by the number of working units) you end up with a figure around $2745 for the three larger sizes, where the wafer fab is the most expensive step. On the three smaller sizes, though, the total cost is much higher ($11750, $13700, and $18650 respectively), so the final price is obviously constrained by something other than the wafer fabrication step. So the quoted figures are comparing figures derived from one cost estimate (for the larger chips) to figures based on a different estimate for a different step in the process. That said, however, the overall qualitative conclusion (that costs rise prohibitively as the chip size increases) is correct. Changing the costs of the other processes may shift the per-unit cost a handful of dollars either way. This is significant when you're talking about a $8.19 part, but doesn't make much difference on a $2745 item. > Seen on the Pentax group on dpreview. > > Joe > > - > > I thought I'd do the maths. Well, I borrowed the company cost model for estimating > silicon chip cost, and got it to do the math. > > Some things to understand - this isn't REAL: the cost model is not up to date with > all the latest information and anyway it relates to a particular silicon fabrication > plant which certainly isn't suitable for making CCD imagers (though it might at a > push make CMOS ones). Also, I had to lie to the model - tell it that the chip had > repairable structures - since it has no way of accepting chips that aren't perfect: > in a conventional IC, if one thing is broken, that's it: in an image sensor, if one > or even five pixels are broken, then provided they're not badly broken - sell it! I > hope that saying things are repairable gets it over the hump (anyway, without this > the larger imagers do not yield at all...) but it may be wrong in magnitude. > > And I couldn't derive values for process improvements. If you make the same silicon > chip over a number of years, then you get better at doing it - the defectivity > number falls. For the big chips, I couldn't do this since I needed the best > defectivity at the beginning - this represents the state of the art after 2-3 years > of production. > > Anyway, the overall shape of the numbers is convincing and some of the modelling is > just pure maths like the number of possible die per wafer. I used 12" wafers, since > again the largest sensors simply didn't yield well enough - thus, this modelling > already assumes that larger sensors will move to more modern fab lines. (On 8" or > smaller wafers, then all costs will rise...) > > 1/2.7" - 5.27x3.96mm - 2910 raw die per wafer, 2277 working die per wafer (78.3% > yield) - cost: $8.19 > > 1/1.8" - 7.18x5.32mm - 1593 raw die per wafer, 1036 working die per wafer (65.1% > yield) - cost: $13.23 > > 2/3" - 8.8x6.6mm - 1045 raw die per wafer, 551 working die per wafer (52.8% yield) - > cost $21.32 > > APS C - 23.7x15.6mm - 61 raw die per wafer, 9 working die per wafer (15.6% yield) - > cost $309 > > 1.3x crop - 27x18mm - 42 raw die per wafer, 3 working die per wafer (8.1% yield) - > cost $920 > > FF - 36x24mm - 23 raw die per wafer, 2 working die per wafer (11.6% yield) - cost > $1373 > > If that doesn't look bad enough, I had to reduce the defectivity by a factor of 2 > for the Full Frame sensor: otherwise, the model only gave a yield of 1.8% (i.e. no > working die per wafer on average). I was sort of happy to do this on the assumption > that it translates into many more pixels that don't work on an FF sensor than on the > others. Clearly, one might say even more dead pixels are acceptable and ask for > further modelling with changed defectivity assumptions, but remember that this > number doesn't only relate to dead pixels - the electronics of the sensor has to > work, too: if there's a fault that takes out a whole row or column, then the sensor > is probably useless. This is actually a pretty rosy view of the cost of an FF sensor > - if I'd only reduced the defectivity by 1.5, then the cost is $2745 (yield falls to > 6.1%). And the whole notion of repair (which is assumed in this model) is a bit > bogus - you can't fix a dead pixel like you can a dead RAM cell by swapping in n e! > w lines... > > Of course, a sensor manufacturer may end up with very different numbers - there's > packaging and test which might be very different from my assumptions for example, > and someone has to weld the anti-alias filter on. (packaging and test raise the cost > of the smaller die quite a bit...) This is cost, too - if you want to do research > and development, that's more money. > > I guess I'm not holding my breath for a Full Frame camera to be affordable. Even a > 1.3x crop factor looks quite expensive! > > Hope this is helpful. And again, I repeat the caveat - this is only a
Re: FWIW
Very, very interesting! I had little feel for most of this. Yes, I know most of the processes, and terminology, but how many per wafer and the yield therefrom — well, I just had no idea. thanks for forwarding it... keith whaley jtainter wrote: Seen on the Pentax group on dpreview. Joe - I thought I'd do the maths. Well, I borrowed the company cost model for estimating silicon chip cost, and got it to do the math. Some things to understand - this isn't REAL: the cost model is not up to date with all the latest information and anyway it relates to a particular silicon fabrication plant which certainly isn't suitable for making CCD imagers (though it might at a push make CMOS ones). Also, I had to lie to the model - tell it that the chip had repairable structures - since it has no way of accepting chips that aren't perfect: in a conventional IC, if one thing is broken, that's it: in an image sensor, if one or even five pixels are broken, then provided they're not badly broken - sell it! I hope that saying things are repairable gets it over the hump (anyway, without this the larger imagers do not yield at all...) but it may be wrong in magnitude. And I couldn't derive values for process improvements. If you make the same silicon chip over a number of years, then you get better at doing it - the defectivity number falls. For the big chips, I couldn't do this since I needed the best defectivity at the beginning - this represents the state of the art after 2-3 years of production. Anyway, the overall shape of the numbers is convincing and some of the modelling is just pure maths like the number of possible die per wafer. I used 12" wafers, since again the largest sensors simply didn't yield well enough - thus, this modelling already assumes that larger sensors will move to more modern fab lines. (On 8" or smaller wafers, then all costs will rise...) 1/2.7" - 5.27x3.96mm - 2910 raw die per wafer, 2277 working die per wafer (78.3% yield) - cost: $8.19 1/1.8" - 7.18x5.32mm - 1593 raw die per wafer, 1036 working die per wafer (65.1% yield) - cost: $13.23 2/3" - 8.8x6.6mm - 1045 raw die per wafer, 551 working die per wafer (52.8% yield) - cost $21.32 APS C - 23.7x15.6mm - 61 raw die per wafer, 9 working die per wafer (15.6% yield) - cost $309 1.3x crop - 27x18mm - 42 raw die per wafer, 3 working die per wafer (8.1% yield) - cost $920 FF - 36x24mm - 23 raw die per wafer, 2 working die per wafer (11.6% yield) - cost $1373 If that doesn't look bad enough, I had to reduce the defectivity by a factor of 2 for the Full Frame sensor: otherwise, the model only gave a yield of 1.8% (i.e. no working die per wafer on average). I was sort of happy to do this on the assumption that it translates into many more pixels that don't work on an FF sensor than on the others. Clearly, one might say even more dead pixels are acceptable and ask for further modelling with changed defectivity assumptions, but remember that this number doesn't only relate to dead pixels - the electronics of the sensor has to work, too: if there's a fault that takes out a whole row or column, then the sensor is probably useless. This is actually a pretty rosy view of the cost of an FF sensor - if I'd only reduced the defectivity by 1.5, then the cost is $2745 (yield falls to 6.1%). And the whole notion of repair (which is assumed in this model) is a bit bogus - you can't fix a dead pixel like you can a dead RAM cell by swapping in n e! w lines... Of course, a sensor manufacturer may end up with very different numbers - there's packaging and test which might be very different from my assumptions for example, and someone has to weld the anti-alias filter on. (packaging and test raise the cost of the smaller die quite a bit...) This is cost, too - if you want to do research and development, that's more money. I guess I'm not holding my breath for a Full Frame camera to be affordable. Even a 1.3x crop factor looks quite expensive! Hope this is helpful. And again, I repeat the caveat - this is only a model: all the numbers are wrong, really! --Sophie
