Re: Foveon X3 at PMA
NG camera. The company claims that enlargements from the SD9 exceed the NG quality of 35mm film. IIRC the Foveon chip is so far only 3.4 MP or such, even if true megapixels and not interpolated megapixels from normal digicams. I don't see how it could be better than film as even with 2700 scanners, these have about 10 MP, there is plenty of detail yet to scan at more res... Company LIES, called creative talk again. I think it is Nike who is currently making the biggest case of company lies getting protected by the US 1st amendment? Scarey. Sorry that's too OT... Anyway, detail for detail, film would capture at least 8-10 megapixels, while this chip captures only 3.4 megapixels (comparing film's l/mm rating, choosing a conservative 100 l/mm, many films can do higher than that), or is my reasoning wrong? Not counting the different qualities of MTF curves for chip (digital) and film (analog) media, and overal image qualities. I just don't like this sort of company creative talk... Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Foveon X3 at PMA
Over the years there have been millions of improvements announce that weren't improvements at all. I will withhold my opinion until I see the results from a production camera. Until then it is just more vaporware. Ciao, Graywolf - Original Message - From: alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 2:58 PM Subject: Foveon X3 at PMA Here is a good link to an account of the future demise of film by The Economist : http://www.economist.com/agenda/displaystory.cfm?story_id=1000240 I find it summarizes quite well the impact of the Foveon breakthrough. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Foveon X3 at PMA
From the article: The result is sharper, more accurate images. The file-sizes of the digital pictures are also smaller, which means more can be stored by the camera. The company claims that enlargements from the SD9 exceed the quality of 35mm film. Unless they also have a new compression algo/storage format, the claim of having smaller file size with more encoded information is bogus. Here is a good link to an account of the future demise of film by The Economist : http://www.economist.com/agenda/displaystory.cfm?story_id=1000240 I find it summarizes quite well the impact of the Foveon breakthrough. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Foveon X3 at PMA
The camera has been produced. A friend is working on a project in Santa Clara, and has used the camera. There are a number of images on line that were made with this particular unit, although I can't find the URL right now. If all goes well, I may have a chance to see it for myself in the next couple of weeks. What I don't know is if the camera is in pre-production status, or if regular production units are being made. But I can find out more in the next week or so. T Rittenhouse wrote: Over the years there have been millions of improvements announce that weren't improvements at all. I will withhold my opinion until I see the results from a production camera. Until then it is just more vaporware. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ You can't have everything. Where would you put it? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Foveon X3 at PMA
I suggest you check out the Foveon web site to get a better, or perhaps different, perspective on the product. I have seen photos made with the Sigma camera, and made with other cameras as a comparison, and, to these old eyes, the Foveon photos look a lot more detailed and saturated. Nitin Garg wrote: Unless they also have a new compression algo/storage format, the claim of having smaller file size with more encoded information is bogus. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ You can't have everything. Where would you put it? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Foveon X3 at PMA
On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 01:46:04PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I suggest you check out the Foveon web site to get a better, or perhaps different, perspective on the product. I have seen photos made with the Sigma camera, and made with other cameras as a comparison, and, to these old eyes, the Foveon photos look a lot more detailed and saturated. The images might be better alright but to claim that its size is smaller doesnt hold unless they have a better encoding scheme too. Nitin Garg wrote: Unless they also have a new compression algo/storage format, the claim of having smaller file size with more encoded information is bogus. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ You can't have everything. Where would you put it? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Foveon X3 at PMA
There is a new Sigma SLR that uses this chip. It got rave reviews atdpreview.com http://www.dpreview.com/news/0202/02022503sigmasd9shots.asp Too bad this Sigma doesn't take K-mount lenses like the first couple of Sigma SLRs did. Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
