Re: Re: GESO: Anne

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Once you've figured (out) why a picture didn't work, don't repeat that 
> mistake.

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Re: GESO: Anne

[Christine Aguila]

Paul & William:  The two of you have been so generous with excellent advice 
here.  Big, big thanks.  Cheers, Christine


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>
> - Original Message ----- 
> From:  Subject: Re: GESO: Anne
>
>
>> But keep in mind that nailing it in just a few shots is an aberration. 
>> Most accompished
>> portrait photographers shoot a lot of frames. Don't quit working until 
>> you've nailed it. But
>> don't count on volume. Make every shot count.
>
> I'd like to expand slightly on this.
> Sometimes it doesn't matter how many frames you shoot, you are just 
> wasting yours and your
> subjects time.
> It happens.
> Recognize if this is happening, and go and do something else. There is 
> nothing to gain by trying
> to force a picture to happen, and often, there is much to lose.
>
> I found when I was learning portraiture (some would say I never did), I 
> shot the same model,
> often  with the same background, the same lights and the same lens many 
> times in a row, probably
> 50 times. As I worked with her over time (several years), I got more 
> keepers per session, and
> the quality of the keepers went up as well.
> You have some good shots there, and she really is quite beautiful.
> Next time you photograph her perhaps try keeping the lens axis at or near 
> her eye level, I think
> you will find she photographs better with a slightly elevated camera. 
> Also, longer focal length
> and get farther away. I wouldn't go shorter than ~90mm with her.
>
> In general terms, when you are going through you pictures, don't dwell 
> overly on the good ones.
> Everyone shoots good pictures from time to time, and frankly, I'd rather 
> look at someone else's
> good pictures than try to feign a lack of narcissism about my own.
> Cull out the good ones and give copies to your friends, post them to the 
> net, or whatever, and
> get over it.
> It is far more instructive, and far less egotistical, to look at the ones 
> that didn't work and
> try to suss out what went wrong.
> Once you've figured why a picture didn't work, don't repeat that mistake. 
> Eventually, you will
> get more keepers (if for no other reason than to be able to stop looking 
> at crappy photographs).
> With your portraiture, try to be very objective about your subject.
> No one has a perfect face, and there is nothing wrong with either doing a 
> bit of camouflage or
> misdirecting to limit the exposure of less than wonderful features.
> Contrary to popular belief, portraiture isn't about recording what your 
> subect looks like.
> Also, people tend to either have goofy happy smiles or else rather stern 
> expressions.
> I hate goofy toothy smiles in portraiture.
> You have to do a few to keep the subject's mom happy, but only do a few, 
> perhaps while adjusting
> any lighting you are using. If you do too many the person starts to look 
> like Ronald McDonald.
> Stern expressions tend to make the person look sullen or morose, which 
> isn't attractive in the
> least. Unless you are Yousuf Karsch, stern is a good expression to stay 
> away from.
> I like to try for a "pleasant" expression. Sort of smiling on the inside, 
> and just letting a
> hint of it out for the camera to see.
> If that makes any sense
>
> William Robb
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Re: GESO: Anne

[William Robb]

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From:  But keep in mind that nailing it in just a few shots is an aberration. Most 
> accompished 
> portrait photographers shoot a lot of frames. Don't quit working until you've 
> nailed it. But 
> don't count on volume. Make every shot count.

I'd like to expand slightly on this.
Sometimes it doesn't matter how many frames you shoot, you are just wasting 
yours and your 
subjects time.
It happens.
Recognize if this is happening, and go and do something else. There is nothing 
to gain by trying 
to force a picture to happen, and often, there is much to lose.

I found when I was learning portraiture (some would say I never did), I shot 
the same model, 
often  with the same background, the same lights and the same lens many times 
in a row, probably 
50 times. As I worked with her over time (several years), I got more keepers 
per session, and 
the quality of the keepers went up as well.
You have some good shots there, and she really is quite beautiful.
Next time you photograph her perhaps try keeping the lens axis at or near her 
eye level, I think 
you will find she photographs better with a slightly elevated camera. Also, 
longer focal length 
and get farther away. I wouldn't go shorter than ~90mm with her.

In general terms, when you are going through you pictures, don't dwell overly 
on the good ones. 
Everyone shoots good pictures from time to time, and frankly, I'd rather look 
at someone else's 
good pictures than try to feign a lack of narcissism about my own.
Cull out the good ones and give copies to your friends, post them to the net, 
or whatever, and 
get over it.
It is far more instructive, and far less egotistical, to look at the ones that 
didn't work and 
try to suss out what went wrong.
Once you've figured why a picture didn't work, don't repeat that mistake. 
Eventually, you will 
get more keepers (if for no other reason than to be able to stop looking at 
crappy photographs).
With your portraiture, try to be very objective about your subject.
No one has a perfect face, and there is nothing wrong with either doing a bit 
of camouflage or 
misdirecting to limit the exposure of less than wonderful features.
Contrary to popular belief, portraiture isn't about recording what your subect 
looks like.
Also, people tend to either have goofy happy smiles or else rather stern 
expressions.
I hate goofy toothy smiles in portraiture.
You have to do a few to keep the subject's mom happy, but only do a few, 
perhaps while adjusting 
any lighting you are using. If you do too many the person starts to look like 
Ronald McDonald.
Stern expressions tend to make the person look sullen or morose, which isn't 
attractive in the 
least. Unless you are Yousuf Karsch, stern is a good expression to stay away 
from.
I like to try for a "pleasant" expression. Sort of smiling on the inside, and 
just letting a 
hint of it out for the camera to see.
If that makes any sense

William Robb 


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Re: GESO: Anne

[Christine Aguila]

Oh, she's lovely!  Thanks much about the closed eyes:  I was fooling around 
with desaturation there.  I ended up quite liking it myself.  I really 
surprised myself there.  You were so right, Derby:  You said I would love 
Lightroom, & I do.  I'd say it sucks for cloning though.  PS  Elements fills 
in that gap.

Big Thanks & Cheers,  Christine



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>
> I'll add my compliments to the queue. The summery, relaxed feeling is
> charming. She's a bit of a looker, hey? I quite like the closed eyes
> portrait, too.
>
> D
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Re: GESO: Anne

[pnstenquist]

But keep in mind that nailing it in just a few shots is an aberration. Most 
accompished portrait photographers shoot a lot of frames. Don't quit working 
until you've nailed it. But don't count on volume. Make every shot count.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: "Christine  Aguila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hey, big thanks.  I'll be seeking out these titles.  This is much 
> appreciated, Cotty!  Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "pentax list" 
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 1:24 PM
> Subject: Re: GESO: Anne
> 
> 
> > On 12/6/08, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> >>Some of the best portrait photographs take very few frames of their
> >>subjects.
> >
> > Excellent advice from Bob, so while we're on the subject, and if you'd
> > like some further portrait study, here's a couple of my favourites:
> >
> > Arnold Newman, especially this classic book which should be on portrait
> > photog's shelf:
> >
> > http://www.bestwebbuys.com/One_Mind's_Eye-ISBN_9780879230944.html?isrc=b-
> > search
> >
> > and
> >
> > <http://www.bestwebbuys.com/Jean_Loup_Sieff-ISBN_9783822844397.html?
> > isrc=b-search>
> >
> > I'm just about to send this book as a gift to someone - if I'm ever in
> > the photo-doldrums, I leaf through it and find myself re-energized :)
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > -- 
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >  Cotty
> >
> >
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Re: GESO: Anne

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Bruce:  Wow, this really helps and is excellent advice.  And about the 
tighter shots:  As a general principle, I do appreciate this point & think 
it important, but sense of place is very important to me & when I think of 
people, I think of them as part of some place, maybe only for brief periods 
or maybe deeply rooted.  At one point, Anne said to me that she was so 
excited to have photos done with a hint of her home in the background. 
Granted, some of the shots had busy backgrounds, but I'll get better at not 
doing that (hopefully).  Sense of place is really important to me.

Big cheers, Christine


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> Hello Christine,
>
> You have really hit on it.  Portrait work can be very difficult
> because you have to produce something, not just record something.
> The latter is more about timing and finding the right situation.  The
> former is first and foremost about attitude.
>
> What happens with portraits is the feeling of the subject really
> comes through.  If the they are feeling a bit shy or timid, it shows.
> Your job is to somehow bring the inner self out and have the person
> really show something.  It usually means getting them to be very
> comfortable - talking and maybe laughing if it is to be a happy
> portrait.  Once things are comfortable, you just shoot away without
> changing the feeling - don't stop and say "now we are going to
> shoot" - you just shoot as you continue your talking.  It has to be
> a fun, enjoyable thing for both of you to have the most successful
> portraits.
>
> It is also easier, I think, to start with a tighter shot - not so
> much worry about the background.  As the session unfolds, and things
> are working, then you can introduce more backgrounds and poses.
>
> I hope I'm making sense.
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bruce
>
>
> Thursday, June 12, 2008, 8:56:23 PM, you wrote:
>
>
> CA> ----- Original Message - 
> CA> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> CA> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> CA> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:45 PM
> CA> Subject: Re: GESO: Anne
>
>
>>> Hi Christine,
>>> Think about what you want and do it again.
>>> Paul
>
> CA> Well, there's the rub!  You know, when you're out on the street or at 
> a
> CA> public event,  you begin to watch, unnoticed by others, human drama in
> CA> action, and you begin to sense there's a picture coming, & before you 
> know
> CA> it the camera is to the left of your nose, & you're looking through 
> the view
> CA> finder & there it is.
>
> CA> How different portrait shoots are!  There you are, your lovely subject 
> is
> CA> before, staring at you as if saying, "well, what do you want me to 
> do?"  And
> CA> there you are (or rather, there I was), probably looking perplexed,
> CA> wondering, how do I make magic here?  How do I get the true spirit of 
> this
> CA> lovely subject to reveal itself?  Frankly, I find it all a bit 
> daunting--but
> CA> to paraphrase the great Eleanor Roosevelt,  do what you fear!
>
> CA> Thanks for the tips, Paul.
>
> CA> Cheers, Christine
>
>
>
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Re: GESO: Anne

[Christine Aguila]

Hey, big thanks.  I'll be seeking out these titles.  This is much 
appreciated, Cotty!  Cheers, Christine


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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: GESO: Anne


> On 12/6/08, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Some of the best portrait photographs take very few frames of their
>>subjects.
>
> Excellent advice from Bob, so while we're on the subject, and if you'd
> like some further portrait study, here's a couple of my favourites:
>
> Arnold Newman, especially this classic book which should be on portrait
> photog's shelf:
>
> http://www.bestwebbuys.com/One_Mind's_Eye-ISBN_9780879230944.html?isrc=b-
> search
>
> and
>
> <http://www.bestwebbuys.com/Jean_Loup_Sieff-ISBN_9783822844397.html?
> isrc=b-search>
>
> I'm just about to send this book as a gift to someone - if I'm ever in
> the photo-doldrums, I leaf through it and find myself re-energized :)
>
> HTH
>
> -- 
>
>
> Cheers,
>  Cotty
>
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Re: GESO: Anne

[Christine Aguila]

It does, and big thanks.  Cheers, Christine


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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 1:13 PM
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> On 12/6/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=840824
>>
>>Comment/s critique/thoughts very welcome.
>
> Nice set of pics Christine. I think you captured spirit of the sitter
> very well, if that makes sense!
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Re: GESO: Anne

[Derby Chang]

Christine Aguila wrote:
> Hi Everyone:  Anne is a colleague of mine, & I wanted to take some photos of 
> her, and fortunately she was very enthusiastic, and even said I could come 
> back again if I wanted a reshoot:  I find her lovely, & her eyes very 
> striking.  We met up at her house, & I had about an hour 1/2 to photographer 
> her on her deck.
>
> But, something very interesting happened:  I actually got so bored--not 
> because of Anne; she was great and fun; she has a really great sense of 
> humor--rather, I was so bored with myself photographing her; creatively I 
> felt dead, and I don't know why--look how lovely she is!!!
>
> My 1st guess at an explanation is that it was all starting to feel too 
> staged, and I think I feel I was kind of letting Anne down because of that. 
> Also, I'm so inexperienced at reading ambient location lighting and how to 
> best exploit it--& knowing this, I think all of a sudden I became extremely 
> self-conscious about this, and I think I had a little inner panic.
>
> Anyway, in 30 minutes I shot 61 frames, and I then said, "Let's quit.  I 
> feel done."  And I so shocked myself that I said that.  We had a great 
> girlfriend visit over iced tea afterwards & Anne liked a good many of the 
> shots.
>
> I've picked 5 to show you all here.  Anne 1, 4, & 5 are my favorites, with 5 
> being my number 1 fav.  In Anne 4, Anne is holding up a diffuser disk to the 
> right and out of frame (obviously ;-)).  Anne 3 & 2 aren't that great 
> because of the overwhelming highlights in the background.
>
> All shot with K10D & the DA* 50-135mm & all hand-held.  I'm a little proud 
> of that latter.  I think I'm getting better at wielding that kit around: 
> K10D, battery grip & DA* 50-135mm.  Ironically, the battery grip, though it 
> adds weight, balances the kit for some better handling.
>
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=840824
>
> Comment/s critique/thoughts very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Christine 
>
>
>
>   

I'll add my compliments to the queue. The summery, relaxed feeling is 
charming. She's a bit of a looker, hey? I quite like the closed eyes 
portrait, too.

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Re: GESO: Anne

[Fernando]

I've never tried a portrait session; but if some day I try, this makes
lot of sense...

[FernandoBookmarking]

On 6/13/08, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Christine,
>
> You have really hit on it.  Portrait work can be very difficult
> because you have to produce something, not just record something.
> The latter is more about timing and finding the right situation.  The
> former is first and foremost about attitude.
>
> What happens with portraits is the feeling of the subject really
> comes through.  If the they are feeling a bit shy or timid, it shows.
>  Your job is to somehow bring the inner self out and have the person
>  really show something.  It usually means getting them to be very
>  comfortable - talking and maybe laughing if it is to be a happy
>  portrait.  Once things are comfortable, you just shoot away without
>  changing the feeling - don't stop and say "now we are going to
>  shoot" - you just shoot as you continue your talking.  It has to be
>  a fun, enjoyable thing for both of you to have the most successful
>  portraits.
>
>  It is also easier, I think, to start with a tighter shot - not so
>  much worry about the background.  As the session unfolds, and things
>  are working, then you can introduce more backgrounds and poses.
>
>  I hope I'm making sense.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Bruce
>
>
> Thursday, June 12, 2008, 8:56:23 PM, you wrote:
>
>
> CA> - Original Message -----
> CA> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> CA> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
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> CA> Subject: Re: GESO: Anne
>
>
> >> Hi Christine,
> >> Think about what you want and do it again.
> >> Paul
>
> CA> Well, there's the rub!  You know, when you're out on the street or at a
> CA> public event,  you begin to watch, unnoticed by others, human drama in
> CA> action, and you begin to sense there's a picture coming, & before you know
> CA> it the camera is to the left of your nose, & you're looking through the 
> view
> CA> finder & there it is.
>
> CA> How different portrait shoots are!  There you are, your lovely subject is
> CA> before, staring at you as if saying, "well, what do you want me to do?"  
> And
> CA> there you are (or rather, there I was), probably looking perplexed,
> CA> wondering, how do I make magic here?  How do I get the true spirit of this
> CA> lovely subject to reveal itself?  Frankly, I find it all a bit 
> daunting--but
> CA> to paraphrase the great Eleanor Roosevelt,  do what you fear!
>
> CA> Thanks for the tips, Paul.
>
> CA> Cheers, Christine
>
>
>
>
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Re: GESO: Anne

[Bruce Dayton]

Hello Christine,

You have really hit on it.  Portrait work can be very difficult
because you have to produce something, not just record something.
The latter is more about timing and finding the right situation.  The
former is first and foremost about attitude.

What happens with portraits is the feeling of the subject really
comes through.  If the they are feeling a bit shy or timid, it shows.
 Your job is to somehow bring the inner self out and have the person
 really show something.  It usually means getting them to be very
 comfortable - talking and maybe laughing if it is to be a happy
 portrait.  Once things are comfortable, you just shoot away without
 changing the feeling - don't stop and say "now we are going to
 shoot" - you just shoot as you continue your talking.  It has to be
 a fun, enjoyable thing for both of you to have the most successful
 portraits.

 It is also easier, I think, to start with a tighter shot - not so
 much worry about the background.  As the session unfolds, and things
 are working, then you can introduce more backgrounds and poses.

 I hope I'm making sense.

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Best regards,
Bruce


Thursday, June 12, 2008, 8:56:23 PM, you wrote:


CA> - Original Message - 
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>> Hi Christine,
>> Think about what you want and do it again.
>> Paul

CA> Well, there's the rub!  You know, when you're out on the street or at a
CA> public event,  you begin to watch, unnoticed by others, human drama in
CA> action, and you begin to sense there's a picture coming, & before you know
CA> it the camera is to the left of your nose, & you're looking through the view
CA> finder & there it is.

CA> How different portrait shoots are!  There you are, your lovely subject is
CA> before, staring at you as if saying, "well, what do you want me to do?"  And
CA> there you are (or rather, there I was), probably looking perplexed, 
CA> wondering, how do I make magic here?  How do I get the true spirit of this
CA> lovely subject to reveal itself?  Frankly, I find it all a bit daunting--but
CA> to paraphrase the great Eleanor Roosevelt,  do what you fear!

CA> Thanks for the tips, Paul.

CA> Cheers, Christine






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Re: GESO: Anne

[Cotty]

On 12/6/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

>How different portrait shoots are!  There you are, your lovely subject is 
>before, staring at you as if saying, "well, what do you want me to do?"  And 
>there you are (or rather, there I was), probably looking perplexed, 
>wondering, how do I make magic here?  How do I get the true spirit of this 
>lovely subject to reveal itself?  Frankly, I find it all a bit daunting--but 
>to paraphrase the great Eleanor Roosevelt,  do what you fear!

One famous British photographer (who is so famous his name escapes my
sozzled mind at the moment!) will spend an hour at a sitting. Fifty
minutes talking with and getting to know the sitter, ten minutes for the pic.

You can learn a lot about someone in fifty minutes :)

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Re: GESO: Anne

[Cotty]

On 12/6/08, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Some of the best portrait photographs take very few frames of their
>subjects.

Excellent advice from Bob, so while we're on the subject, and if you'd
like some further portrait study, here's a couple of my favourites:

Arnold Newman, especially this classic book which should be on portrait
photog's shelf:

http://www.bestwebbuys.com/One_Mind's_Eye-ISBN_9780879230944.html?isrc=b-
search

and



I'm just about to send this book as a gift to someone - if I'm ever in
the photo-doldrums, I leaf through it and find myself re-energized :)

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RE: GESO: Anne

[Bob W]

> > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Bob W 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > http://avline.abacusline.co.uk/pictures/jpeg/pics/mona.jpg
> > > 
> > > I'm also looking at that horrible line sticking up from her
head.
> > > That doesn't look like a camera issue, but you could 
> Photoshop (tm)
> > > that out, you know...
> > > 
> > > cheers,
> > > frank
> > 
> > not my picture, man. If it was I'd have given her big, blonde
hair,
> > more cleavage and a raunchier smile. A bit more like Pammy, 
> know what
> > I mean?
> 
> http://web.piczo.com/zone/item/Asx.QQAAXkIZqKiJxHgo/Americ
> an-Mona-Lisa?omnitureRef=PiczoZone-ALL-CLIPART-CELEBRITIES
> 

my perfect woman!

Bob


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Re: GESO: Anne

[Cotty]

On 12/6/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=840824
>
>Comment/s critique/thoughts very welcome.

Nice set of pics Christine. I think you captured spirit of the sitter
very well, if that makes sense!

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RE: GESO: Anne

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/06/12 Thu PM 09:06:26 GMT
> To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
> Subject: RE: GESO: Anne
> 
> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > http://avline.abacusline.co.uk/pictures/jpeg/pics/mona.jpg
> > 
> > I'm also looking at that horrible line sticking up from her head.
> > That doesn't look like a camera issue, but you could Photoshop (tm)
> > that out, you know...
> > 
> > cheers,
> > frank
> 
> not my picture, man. If it was I'd have given her big, blonde hair,
> more cleavage and a raunchier smile. A bit more like Pammy, know what
> I mean?

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Re: GESO: Anne

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Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 6:31 PM
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>I can't offer any suggestions as how to cure the boredom, but those
> are beautiful portraits.
>
> You done good Christine :-)

Aren't you sweet!  Big thanks, Dave.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
> P.S. Iced tea? Tsk, tsk, tsk... next time I think a couple of bottles
> of chilled white wine would be a better idea? :-)

I've never been much of a wine drinker--but there was a time I was quite 
open to just about any other ales & distilled spirits!

Thanks again, Dave.
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Re: GESO: Anne

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> Hi Christine,
> Think about what you want and do it again.
> Paul

Well, there's the rub!  You know, when you're out on the street or at a 
public event,  you begin to watch, unnoticed by others, human drama in 
action, and you begin to sense there's a picture coming, & before you know 
it the camera is to the left of your nose, & you're looking through the view 
finder & there it is.

How different portrait shoots are!  There you are, your lovely subject is 
before, staring at you as if saying, "well, what do you want me to do?"  And 
there you are (or rather, there I was), probably looking perplexed, 
wondering, how do I make magic here?  How do I get the true spirit of this 
lovely subject to reveal itself?  Frankly, I find it all a bit daunting--but 
to paraphrase the great Eleanor Roosevelt,  do what you fear!

Thanks for the tips, Paul.

Cheers, Christine



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Re: GESO: Anne

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks, for the good tips, Jack.  Much appreciated. We tried a smaller 
smile, but I didn't like them as much.  They looked too frowny.  I 
completely agree about experimenting with different lighting.  Cheers, 
Christine


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> Although a very 'posed' shot, I believe I like the light and texture of 
> #4. Improvements might have included a much softer background and/or the 
> fence stringer not passing through her head. All backgrounds are a little 
> busy.
> Suggest a shallower DOF and, although she has pretty teeth, a few shots 
> with a bit less of a smile.
> Maybe an even flatter lighting or some shadowy side lighting would help to 
> reduce her subtle shadow lines..which reveal her age to be greater than 
> 17.  
> Understandably, you're putting pressure on yourself to produce results 
> that please her and yourself. Can be very pressurized, especially while 
> learning the process.
>
> Best, Christine!
>
> Jack
>
>
>
> --- On Thu, 6/12/08, Christine Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> From: Christine Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: GESO:  Anne
>> To: pdml@pdml.net
>> Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 1:44 PM
>> Hi Everyone:  Anne is a colleague of mine, & I wanted to
>> take some photos of
>> her, and fortunately she was very enthusiastic, and even
>> said I could come
>> back again if I wanted a reshoot:  I find her lovely, &
>> her eyes very
>> striking.  We met up at her house, & I had about an
>> hour 1/2 to photographer
>> her on her deck.
>>
>> But, something very interesting happened:  I actually got
>> so bored--not
>> because of Anne; she was great and fun; she has a really
>> great sense of
>> humor--rather, I was so bored with myself photographing
>> her; creatively I
>> felt dead, and I don't know why--look how lovely she
>> is!!!
>>
>> My 1st guess at an explanation is that it was all starting
>> to feel too
>> staged, and I think I feel I was kind of letting Anne down
>> because of that.
>> Also, I'm so inexperienced at reading ambient location
>> lighting and how to
>> best exploit it--& knowing this, I think all of a
>> sudden I became extremely
>> self-conscious about this, and I think I had a little inner
>> panic.
>>
>> Anyway, in 30 minutes I shot 61 frames, and I then said,
>> "Let's quit.  I
>> feel done."  And I so shocked myself that I said that.
>>  We had a great
>> girlfriend visit over iced tea afterwards & Anne liked
>> a good many of the
>> shots.
>>
>> I've picked 5 to show you all here.  Anne 1, 4, & 5
>> are my favorites, with 5
>> being my number 1 fav.  In Anne 4, Anne is holding up a
>> diffuser disk to the
>> right and out of frame (obviously ;-)).  Anne 3 & 2
>> aren't that great
>> because of the overwhelming highlights in the background.
>>
>> All shot with K10D & the DA* 50-135mm & all
>> hand-held.  I'm a little proud
>> of that latter.  I think I'm getting better at wielding
>> that kit around:
>> K10D, battery grip & DA* 50-135mm.  Ironically, the
>> battery grip, though it
>> adds weight, balances the kit for some better handling.
>>
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=840824
>>
>> Comment/s critique/thoughts very welcome.
>>
>> Cheers, Christine
>>
>>
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Re: GESO: Anne

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks, Bob.  Yes, I'll be thinking about future possibilities.  Cheers, 
Christine


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> Christine,
> That's a fair job, but seems to lack spontaniety.
> As Bob W said, maybe you need more situations.
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Christine  Aguila
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi Everyone:  Anne is a colleague of mine, & I wanted to take some photos 
>> of
>> her, and fortunately she was very enthusiastic, and even said I could 
>> come
>> back again if I wanted a reshoot:  I find her lovely, & her eyes very
>> striking.  We met up at her house, & I had about an hour 1/2 to 
>> photographer
>> her on her deck.
>>
>> But, something very interesting happened:  I actually got so bored--not
>> because of Anne; she was great and fun; she has a really great sense of
>> humor--rather, I was so bored with myself photographing her; creatively I
>> felt dead, and I don't know why--look how lovely she is!!!
>>
>> My 1st guess at an explanation is that it was all starting to feel too
>> staged, and I think I feel I was kind of letting Anne down because of 
>> that.
>> Also, I'm so inexperienced at reading ambient location lighting and how 
>> to
>> best exploit it--& knowing this, I think all of a sudden I became 
>> extremely
>> self-conscious about this, and I think I had a little inner panic.
>>
>> Anyway, in 30 minutes I shot 61 frames, and I then said, "Let's quit.  I
>> feel done."  And I so shocked myself that I said that.  We had a great
>> girlfriend visit over iced tea afterwards & Anne liked a good many of the
>> shots.
>>
>> I've picked 5 to show you all here.  Anne 1, 4, & 5 are my favorites, 
>> with 5
>> being my number 1 fav.  In Anne 4, Anne is holding up a diffuser disk to 
>> the
>> right and out of frame (obviously ;-)).  Anne 3 & 2 aren't that great
>> because of the overwhelming highlights in the background.
>>
>> All shot with K10D & the DA* 50-135mm & all hand-held.  I'm a little 
>> proud
>> of that latter.  I think I'm getting better at wielding that kit around:
>> K10D, battery grip & DA* 50-135mm.  Ironically, the battery grip, though 
>> it
>> adds weight, balances the kit for some better handling.
>>
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=840824
>>
>> Comment/s critique/thoughts very welcome.
>>
>> Cheers, Christine
>>
>>
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Re: GESO: Anne

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks, Fernando.  I was too chicken to ask her to do "the portrait on the 
bed."  Cheers, Christine


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Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:25 PM
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> Hi Christine,
>
> I'm not portrait shooter, I like them, number 5 is the one I like
> better; I found the light a little bit harsh in the background in some
> of them.
>
> PS: You forgot the "portrait on the bed" shot ;-)
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Christine  Aguila
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi Everyone:  Anne is a colleague of mine, & I wanted to take some photos 
>> of
>> her, and fortunately she was very enthusiastic, and even said I could 
>> come
>> back again if I wanted a reshoot:  I find her lovely, & her eyes very
>> striking.  We met up at her house, & I had about an hour 1/2 to 
>> photographer
>> her on her deck.
>>
>> But, something very interesting happened:  I actually got so bored--not
>> because of Anne; she was great and fun; she has a really great sense of
>> humor--rather, I was so bored with myself photographing her; creatively I
>> felt dead, and I don't know why--look how lovely she is!!!
>>
>> My 1st guess at an explanation is that it was all starting to feel too
>> staged, and I think I feel I was kind of letting Anne down because of 
>> that.
>> Also, I'm so inexperienced at reading ambient location lighting and how 
>> to
>> best exploit it--& knowing this, I think all of a sudden I became 
>> extremely
>> self-conscious about this, and I think I had a little inner panic.
>>
>> Anyway, in 30 minutes I shot 61 frames, and I then said, "Let's quit.  I
>> feel done."  And I so shocked myself that I said that.  We had a great
>> girlfriend visit over iced tea afterwards & Anne liked a good many of the
>> shots.
>>
>> I've picked 5 to show you all here.  Anne 1, 4, & 5 are my favorites, 
>> with 5
>> being my number 1 fav.  In Anne 4, Anne is holding up a diffuser disk to 
>> the
>> right and out of frame (obviously ;-)).  Anne 3 & 2 aren't that great
>> because of the overwhelming highlights in the background.
>>
>> All shot with K10D & the DA* 50-135mm & all hand-held.  I'm a little 
>> proud
>> of that latter.  I think I'm getting better at wielding that kit around:
>> K10D, battery grip & DA* 50-135mm.  Ironically, the battery grip, though 
>> it
>> adds weight, balances the kit for some better handling.
>>
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=840824
>>
>> Comment/s critique/thoughts very welcome.
>>
>> Cheers, Christine
>>
>>
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Re: GESO: Anne

[pnstenquist]

And that smile is forced. Is that the only expression she can achieve?
Paul
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From: John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 04:59:56PM -0400, frank theriault wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > http://avline.abacusline.co.uk/pictures/jpeg/pics/mona.jpg
> > 
> > I'm also looking at that horrible line sticking up from her head.
> > That doesn't look like a camera issue, but you could Photoshop (tm)
> > that out, you know...
> > 
> > cheers,
> > frank
> 
> The horizon's not level, either ...
> 
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Re: GESO: Anne

[pnstenquist]

Hi Christine,
I think you did well. Half an hour and 60 frames is quite a bit, if you're 
shooting for fun. Number three is probably my favorite, I like the light on 
four. I might have told her to smile less broadly. Looks like she may have had 
a bit too much light in her eyes on most of them, yielding a bit of a squint. 
That's why backlight or shade is nice for shooting outdoors. But some good work 
here. Think about what you want and do it again.
Paul
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From: "Christine  Aguila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hi Everyone:  Anne is a colleague of mine, & I wanted to take some photos of 
> her, and fortunately she was very enthusiastic, and even said I could come 
> back again if I wanted a reshoot:  I find her lovely, & her eyes very 
> striking.  We met up at her house, & I had about an hour 1/2 to photographer 
> her on her deck.
> 
> But, something very interesting happened:  I actually got so bored--not 
> because of Anne; she was great and fun; she has a really great sense of 
> humor--rather, I was so bored with myself photographing her; creatively I 
> felt dead, and I don't know why--look how lovely she is!!!
> 
> My 1st guess at an explanation is that it was all starting to feel too 
> staged, and I think I feel I was kind of letting Anne down because of that. 
> Also, I'm so inexperienced at reading ambient location lighting and how to 
> best exploit it--& knowing this, I think all of a sudden I became extremely 
> self-conscious about this, and I think I had a little inner panic.
> 
> Anyway, in 30 minutes I shot 61 frames, and I then said, "Let's quit.  I 
> feel done."  And I so shocked myself that I said that.  We had a great 
> girlfriend visit over iced tea afterwards & Anne liked a good many of the 
> shots.
> 
> I've picked 5 to show you all here.  Anne 1, 4, & 5 are my favorites, with 5 
> being my number 1 fav.  In Anne 4, Anne is holding up a diffuser disk to the 
> right and out of frame (obviously ;-)).  Anne 3 & 2 aren't that great 
> because of the overwhelming highlights in the background.
> 
> All shot with K10D & the DA* 50-135mm & all hand-held.  I'm a little proud 
> of that latter.  I think I'm getting better at wielding that kit around: 
> K10D, battery grip & DA* 50-135mm.  Ironically, the battery grip, though it 
> adds weight, balances the kit for some better handling.
> 
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=840824
> 
> Comment/s critique/thoughts very welcome.
> 
> Cheers, Christine 
> 
> 
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Re: GESO: Anne

[Fernando]

Hi Christine,

I'm not portrait shooter, I like them, number 5 is the one I like
better; I found the light a little bit harsh in the background in some
of them.

PS: You forgot the "portrait on the bed" shot ;-)

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Christine  Aguila
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Everyone:  Anne is a colleague of mine, & I wanted to take some photos of
> her, and fortunately she was very enthusiastic, and even said I could come
> back again if I wanted a reshoot:  I find her lovely, & her eyes very
> striking.  We met up at her house, & I had about an hour 1/2 to photographer
> her on her deck.
>
> But, something very interesting happened:  I actually got so bored--not
> because of Anne; she was great and fun; she has a really great sense of
> humor--rather, I was so bored with myself photographing her; creatively I
> felt dead, and I don't know why--look how lovely she is!!!
>
> My 1st guess at an explanation is that it was all starting to feel too
> staged, and I think I feel I was kind of letting Anne down because of that.
> Also, I'm so inexperienced at reading ambient location lighting and how to
> best exploit it--& knowing this, I think all of a sudden I became extremely
> self-conscious about this, and I think I had a little inner panic.
>
> Anyway, in 30 minutes I shot 61 frames, and I then said, "Let's quit.  I
> feel done."  And I so shocked myself that I said that.  We had a great
> girlfriend visit over iced tea afterwards & Anne liked a good many of the
> shots.
>
> I've picked 5 to show you all here.  Anne 1, 4, & 5 are my favorites, with 5
> being my number 1 fav.  In Anne 4, Anne is holding up a diffuser disk to the
> right and out of frame (obviously ;-)).  Anne 3 & 2 aren't that great
> because of the overwhelming highlights in the background.
>
> All shot with K10D & the DA* 50-135mm & all hand-held.  I'm a little proud
> of that latter.  I think I'm getting better at wielding that kit around:
> K10D, battery grip & DA* 50-135mm.  Ironically, the battery grip, though it
> adds weight, balances the kit for some better handling.
>
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=840824
>
> Comment/s critique/thoughts very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Christine
>
>
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Re: GESO: Anne

[Bob Sullivan]

Christine,
That's a fair job, but seems to lack spontaniety.
As Bob W said, maybe you need more situations.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Christine  Aguila
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Everyone:  Anne is a colleague of mine, & I wanted to take some photos of
> her, and fortunately she was very enthusiastic, and even said I could come
> back again if I wanted a reshoot:  I find her lovely, & her eyes very
> striking.  We met up at her house, & I had about an hour 1/2 to photographer
> her on her deck.
>
> But, something very interesting happened:  I actually got so bored--not
> because of Anne; she was great and fun; she has a really great sense of
> humor--rather, I was so bored with myself photographing her; creatively I
> felt dead, and I don't know why--look how lovely she is!!!
>
> My 1st guess at an explanation is that it was all starting to feel too
> staged, and I think I feel I was kind of letting Anne down because of that.
> Also, I'm so inexperienced at reading ambient location lighting and how to
> best exploit it--& knowing this, I think all of a sudden I became extremely
> self-conscious about this, and I think I had a little inner panic.
>
> Anyway, in 30 minutes I shot 61 frames, and I then said, "Let's quit.  I
> feel done."  And I so shocked myself that I said that.  We had a great
> girlfriend visit over iced tea afterwards & Anne liked a good many of the
> shots.
>
> I've picked 5 to show you all here.  Anne 1, 4, & 5 are my favorites, with 5
> being my number 1 fav.  In Anne 4, Anne is holding up a diffuser disk to the
> right and out of frame (obviously ;-)).  Anne 3 & 2 aren't that great
> because of the overwhelming highlights in the background.
>
> All shot with K10D & the DA* 50-135mm & all hand-held.  I'm a little proud
> of that latter.  I think I'm getting better at wielding that kit around:
> K10D, battery grip & DA* 50-135mm.  Ironically, the battery grip, though it
> adds weight, balances the kit for some better handling.
>
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=840824
>
> Comment/s critique/thoughts very welcome.
>
> Cheers, Christine
>
>
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Re: GESO: Anne

[David Savage]

I can't offer any suggestions as how to cure the boredom, but those
are beautiful portraits.

You done good Christine :-)

Cheers,

Dave

P.S. Iced tea? Tsk, tsk, tsk... next time I think a couple of bottles
of chilled white wine would be a better idea? :-)

2008/6/13 Christine  Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi Everyone:  Anne is a colleague of mine, & I wanted to take some photos of
> her, and fortunately she was very enthusiastic, and even said I could come
> back again if I wanted a reshoot:  I find her lovely, & her eyes very
> striking.  We met up at her house, & I had about an hour 1/2 to photographer
> her on her deck.
>
> But, something very interesting happened:  I actually got so bored--not
> because of Anne; she was great and fun; she has a really great sense of
> humor--rather, I was so bored with myself photographing her; creatively I
> felt dead, and I don't know why--look how lovely she is!!!
>
> My 1st guess at an explanation is that it was all starting to feel too
> staged, and I think I feel I was kind of letting Anne down because of that.
> Also, I'm so inexperienced at reading ambient location lighting and how to
> best exploit it--& knowing this, I think all of a sudden I became extremely
> self-conscious about this, and I think I had a little inner panic.
>
> Anyway, in 30 minutes I shot 61 frames, and I then said, "Let's quit.  I
> feel done."  And I so shocked myself that I said that.  We had a great
> girlfriend visit over iced tea afterwards & Anne liked a good many of the
> shots.
>
> I've picked 5 to show you all here.  Anne 1, 4, & 5 are my favorites, with 5
> being my number 1 fav.  In Anne 4, Anne is holding up a diffuser disk to the
> right and out of frame (obviously ;-)).  Anne 3 & 2 aren't that great
> because of the overwhelming highlights in the background.
>
> All shot with K10D & the DA* 50-135mm & all hand-held.  I'm a little proud
> of that latter.  I think I'm getting better at wielding that kit around:
> K10D, battery grip & DA* 50-135mm.  Ironically, the battery grip, though it
> adds weight, balances the kit for some better handling.
>
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=840824

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Re: GESO: Anne

[Jack Davis]

Although a very 'posed' shot, I believe I like the light and texture of #4. 
Improvements might have included a much softer background and/or the fence 
stringer not passing through her head. All backgrounds are a little busy.
Suggest a shallower DOF and, although she has pretty teeth, a few shots with a 
bit less of a smile.
Maybe an even flatter lighting or some shadowy side lighting would help to 
reduce her subtle shadow lines..which reveal her age to be greater than 17.  

Understandably, you're putting pressure on yourself to produce results that 
please her and yourself. Can be very pressurized, especially while learning the 
process.

Best, Christine!

Jack
  


--- On Thu, 6/12/08, Christine Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Christine Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: GESO:  Anne
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 1:44 PM
> Hi Everyone:  Anne is a colleague of mine, & I wanted to
> take some photos of 
> her, and fortunately she was very enthusiastic, and even
> said I could come 
> back again if I wanted a reshoot:  I find her lovely, &
> her eyes very 
> striking.  We met up at her house, & I had about an
> hour 1/2 to photographer 
> her on her deck.
> 
> But, something very interesting happened:  I actually got
> so bored--not 
> because of Anne; she was great and fun; she has a really
> great sense of 
> humor--rather, I was so bored with myself photographing
> her; creatively I 
> felt dead, and I don't know why--look how lovely she
> is!!!
> 
> My 1st guess at an explanation is that it was all starting
> to feel too 
> staged, and I think I feel I was kind of letting Anne down
> because of that. 
> Also, I'm so inexperienced at reading ambient location
> lighting and how to 
> best exploit it--& knowing this, I think all of a
> sudden I became extremely 
> self-conscious about this, and I think I had a little inner
> panic.
> 
> Anyway, in 30 minutes I shot 61 frames, and I then said,
> "Let's quit.  I 
> feel done."  And I so shocked myself that I said that.
>  We had a great 
> girlfriend visit over iced tea afterwards & Anne liked
> a good many of the 
> shots.
> 
> I've picked 5 to show you all here.  Anne 1, 4, & 5
> are my favorites, with 5 
> being my number 1 fav.  In Anne 4, Anne is holding up a
> diffuser disk to the 
> right and out of frame (obviously ;-)).  Anne 3 & 2
> aren't that great 
> because of the overwhelming highlights in the background.
> 
> All shot with K10D & the DA* 50-135mm & all
> hand-held.  I'm a little proud 
> of that latter.  I think I'm getting better at wielding
> that kit around: 
> K10D, battery grip & DA* 50-135mm.  Ironically, the
> battery grip, though it 
> adds weight, balances the kit for some better handling.
> 
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=840824
> 
> Comment/s critique/thoughts very welcome.
> 
> Cheers, Christine 
> 
> 
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Re: GESO: Anne

[Christine Aguila]

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> http://arts.guardian.co.uk/flash/page/0,,2176315,00.html
>>
>
> There's an interesting article about Jane Bown, describing her at work
> which you might find instructive:
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/theobserver/2006/apr/02/featuresreview.revie
> w

My husband & I just looked at Bown's work!  Wow!  really great stuff.  What 
was equally great was to see all the literary figures she has photographed. 
I tried the second link, but couldn't get through.  I'll try again.  Thanks 
for the tip on Bown.  I think I'll seek out some of her books.  Big cheers, 
Christine 



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RE: GESO: Anne

[Bob W]

> Jane Bown similarly, although she often works with an interviewer,
so
> it is not her and the subject one-to-one. She says in the book
Unknown
> Bown "I rarely expose more than two rolls of film, more than that is
> usually a sign that things are not going well. Sometimes I can see
the
> picture immediately and then the first exposure is often the jackpot
> one. Other times [...] it's often the last one". She also tends to
use
> just one or 2 lenses (50mm and 85mm) and usually shoots at 1/60th at
> f/2.8, making everything else work round that.
> http://arts.guardian.co.uk/flash/page/0,,2176315,00.html
> 

There's an interesting article about Jane Bown, describing her at work
which you might find instructive:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/theobserver/2006/apr/02/featuresreview.revie
w

Bob


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RE: GESO: Anne

[Bob W]

> .>Maybe you gave yourselves too much time with only one
> > situation. Once you've exploited it there's no point in
continuing.
> 
> 
> Thanks, Bob!  And  yes, that's good advice.  Big Cheers, Christine
> 

Some of the best portrait photographs take very few frames of their
subjects. I personally like quite candid portraits. I don't like
lights and studio set-ups. 

Cartier-Bresson was one of the great portraitists and he said that if
he didn't get the picture straight away he knew he would be unlikely
to get it. Apparently his portrait of the Joliot-Curies was like that:
"I rang the bell, the door opened, I shot, I then said good morning.
It wasn't very polite."
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/26/arts/design/26cart.html

Jane Bown similarly, although she often works with an interviewer, so
it is not her and the subject one-to-one. She says in the book Unknown
Bown "I rarely expose more than two rolls of film, more than that is
usually a sign that things are not going well. Sometimes I can see the
picture immediately and then the first exposure is often the jackpot
one. Other times [...] it's often the last one". She also tends to use
just one or 2 lenses (50mm and 85mm) and usually shoots at 1/60th at
f/2.8, making everything else work round that.
http://arts.guardian.co.uk/flash/page/0,,2176315,00.html

Incidentally Unknown Bown is an excellent book of pictures she took
while she was an amateur, still learning photography, and done with a
Rolleiflex TLR. Her 2nd camera was a Pentax.

Bob


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Re: GESO: Anne

[Christine Aguila]

- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: GESO: Anne


> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Christine  Aguila
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> They all said that after a while, they didn't even notice that the big
> studio strobes were going off, they didn't hear the snap of the
> shutter, they stopped noticing the huge view-camera, they weren't even
> aware that they were being photographed.  Even though they were
> receiving the odd instruction from him ("lift your chin"), it was part
> of the conversation, and they forgot that they were in a studio.


Yep, that's the goal:  but I'm going to have to get a lot more experience 
under my belt photographing people, and, more importantly, working the 
equipment I own.  I think that's the key--I need to get to the point where I 
can effortlessly adjust/use equipment so I can keep the witty conversation 
going. ;-) But that's the amazing thing about learning anything, right--to 
get to the point where you can execute the skill without the beginner's 
self-consciousness.   The zone is the goal!  Cheers, Christine 



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Re: GESO: Anne

[frank theriault]

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Christine  Aguila
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>> I'm sure that Anne picked up on your feelings of ackwardness (slight
>> though they might have been), exacerbating the situation.
>
> Yea, that's what I'm worried about too!  Even though I love photographing
> people (really love it), I do get nervous--you know, not wanting to waste
> their time--always wanting to work quickly and efficiently and
> creatively--smartly.  I've got to learn to hid the nervousness better!
>
> Big thanks, Frank!  Cheers, Christine

I'll respond to this by starting again with the caveat that I'm no
portrait photographer.

However, I once saw a documentary on Karsh, and several of his
subjects were interviewed.  They all said he was one of the most
charming, urbane and witty men they'd ever met;  a great
conversationalist.  He spent the whole time in the studio talking with
them, making them feel comfortable, making them feel like ~they
mattered~.  He walked around, air-bulb release in hand, snapping
photos, waiting for his assistant to change film, set lights, etc,
~knowing~ when he could snap without even looking back at his
assistant.

They all said that after a while, they didn't even notice that the big
studio strobes were going off, they didn't hear the snap of the
shutter, they stopped noticing the huge view-camera, they weren't even
aware that they were being photographed.  Even though they were
receiving the odd instruction from him ("lift your chin"), it was part
of the conversation, and they forgot that they were in a studio.

He seemed like he really wanted to get to know them as individuals, he
seemed like he was really interested in ~them~ - and I'm sure he
really was!  I guess that just having a "normal" conversation with
Anne (or whoever you shoot), would be part of getting both of your to
relax.

cheers,
frank



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Re: GESO: Anne

[Christine Aguila]

- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> I'm sure that Anne picked up on your feelings of ackwardness (slight
> though they might have been), exacerbating the situation.

Yea, that's what I'm worried about too!  Even though I love photographing 
people (really love it), I do get nervous--you know, not wanting to waste 
their time--always wanting to work quickly and efficiently and 
creatively--smartly.  I've got to learn to hid the nervousness better!

Big thanks, Frank!  Cheers, Christine



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Re: GESO: Anne

[Christine Aguila]

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From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

.>Maybe you gave yourselves too much time with only one
> situation. Once you've exploited it there's no point in continuing.


Thanks, Bob!  And  yes, that's good advice.  Big Cheers, Christine


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Re: GESO: Anne

[John Francis]

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 04:59:56PM -0400, frank theriault wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > http://avline.abacusline.co.uk/pictures/jpeg/pics/mona.jpg
> 
> I'm also looking at that horrible line sticking up from her head.
> That doesn't look like a camera issue, but you could Photoshop (tm)
> that out, you know...
> 
> cheers,
> frank

The horizon's not level, either ...


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Re: GESO: Anne

[frank theriault]

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Christine  Aguila
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Everyone:  Anne is a colleague of mine, & I wanted to take some photos of
> her, and fortunately she was very enthusiastic, and even said I could come
> back again if I wanted a reshoot:  I find her lovely, & her eyes very
> striking.  We met up at her house, & I had about an hour 1/2 to photographer
> her on her deck.
>
> But, something very interesting happened:  I actually got so bored--not
> because of Anne; she was great and fun; she has a really great sense of
> humor--rather, I was so bored with myself photographing her; creatively I
> felt dead, and I don't know why--look how lovely she is!!!
>
> My 1st guess at an explanation is that it was all starting to feel too
> staged, and I think I feel I was kind of letting Anne down because of that.
> Also, I'm so inexperienced at reading ambient location lighting and how to
> best exploit it--& knowing this, I think all of a sudden I became extremely
> self-conscious about this, and I think I had a little inner panic.
>
> Anyway, in 30 minutes I shot 61 frames, and I then said, "Let's quit.  I
> feel done."  And I so shocked myself that I said that.  We had a great
> girlfriend visit over iced tea afterwards & Anne liked a good many of the
> shots.
>
> I've picked 5 to show you all here.  Anne 1, 4, & 5 are my favorites, with 5
> being my number 1 fav.  In Anne 4, Anne is holding up a diffuser disk to the
> right and out of frame (obviously ;-)).  Anne 3 & 2 aren't that great
> because of the overwhelming highlights in the background.
>
> All shot with K10D & the DA* 50-135mm & all hand-held.  I'm a little proud
> of that latter.  I think I'm getting better at wielding that kit around:
> K10D, battery grip & DA* 50-135mm.  Ironically, the battery grip, though it
> adds weight, balances the kit for some better handling.
>
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=840824
>
> Comment/s critique/thoughts very welcome.
>
>

I like #5 the best, too:  it really shows off her beautiful eyes.

I think I see what you're saying.  They're more-than-competent shots,
and she's quite lovely to look at, but there seems to be something
missing.  It's like she's just a bit stiff, not quite relaxed, she's
not really letting go and just enjoying the shoot.

Please realize that I can't do this stuff myself;  I know I couldn't
do better - far from it!  Most of my "portraits" (such as they are)
are candid, with the subject not even realizing that they're being
shot.  Obviously, that wasn't an option for you.  And, like you, I'd
feel very self-conscious shooting in a "semi-formal" way, as you were.
 I'm sure that Anne picked up on your feelings of ackwardness (slight
though they might have been), exacerbating the situation.

As I said, the photos themselves are just fine - nothing wrong with
them at all (except for some bright backgrounds that distract a bit),
there's just nothing to raise them up into that "out of the ordinary"
category.

cheers,
frank



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RE: GESO: Anne

[Bob W]

> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > http://avline.abacusline.co.uk/pictures/jpeg/pics/mona.jpg
> 
> I'm also looking at that horrible line sticking up from her head.
> That doesn't look like a camera issue, but you could Photoshop (tm)
> that out, you know...
> 
> cheers,
> frank

not my picture, man. If it was I'd have given her big, blonde hair,
more cleavage and a raunchier smile. A bit more like Pammy, know what
I mean?

Bob


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Re: GESO: Anne

[frank theriault]

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://avline.abacusline.co.uk/pictures/jpeg/pics/mona.jpg

I'm also looking at that horrible line sticking up from her head.
That doesn't look like a camera issue, but you could Photoshop (tm)
that out, you know...

cheers,
frank


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[frank theriault]

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Maybe a Tuscan landscape with rocks and a stream, and
> perhaps a bit more enigma round the mouth, like this:
> http://avline.abacusline.co.uk/pictures/jpeg/pics/mona.jpg

Look at that purple fringing around her hair!  Was it shot with an M8
or something?

cheers,
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[Bob W]

> My 1st guess at an explanation is that it was all starting to 
> feel too 
> staged,

I think you've done a good job there, but they do look staged and bit
stiff. Maybe you gave yourselves too much time with only one
situation. Once you've exploited it there's no point in continuing.

1,3 and 4 are the best. 5 is pretty good, but could use a better
background. Maybe a Tuscan landscape with rocks and a stream, and
perhaps a bit more enigma round the mouth, like this:
http://avline.abacusline.co.uk/pictures/jpeg/pics/mona.jpg

Bob 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Christine Aguila
> Sent: 12 June 2008 21:44
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: GESO: Anne
> 
> Hi Everyone:  Anne is a colleague of mine, & I wanted to take 
> some photos of 
> her, and fortunately she was very enthusiastic, and even said 
> I could come 
> back again if I wanted a reshoot:  I find her lovely, & her eyes
very 
> striking.  We met up at her house, & I had about an hour 1/2 
> to photographer 
> her on her deck.
> 
> But, something very interesting happened:  I actually got so 
> bored--not 
> because of Anne; she was great and fun; she has a really 
> great sense of 
> humor--rather, I was so bored with myself photographing her; 
> creatively I 
> felt dead, and I don't know why--look how lovely she is!!!
> 
> My 1st guess at an explanation is that it was all starting to 
> feel too 
> staged, and I think I feel I was kind of letting Anne down 
> because of that. 
> Also, I'm so inexperienced at reading ambient location 
> lighting and how to 
> best exploit it--& knowing this, I think all of a sudden I 
> became extremely 
> self-conscious about this, and I think I had a little inner panic.
> 
> Anyway, in 30 minutes I shot 61 frames, and I then said, 
> "Let's quit.  I 
> feel done."  And I so shocked myself that I said that.  We 
> had a great 
> girlfriend visit over iced tea afterwards & Anne liked a good 
> many of the 
> shots.
> 
> I've picked 5 to show you all here.  Anne 1, 4, & 5 are my 
> favorites, with 5 
> being my number 1 fav.  In Anne 4, Anne is holding up a 
> diffuser disk to the 
> right and out of frame (obviously ;-)).  Anne 3 & 2 aren't that
great 
> because of the overwhelming highlights in the background.
> 
> All shot with K10D & the DA* 50-135mm & all hand-held.  I'm a 
> little proud 
> of that latter.  I think I'm getting better at wielding that 
> kit around: 
> K10D, battery grip & DA* 50-135mm.  Ironically, the battery 
> grip, though it 
> adds weight, balances the kit for some better handling.
> 
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=840824
> 
> Comment/s critique/thoughts very welcome.
> 
> Cheers, Christine 
> 
> 
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