Re: GESO here's one for Knarf

2009-12-28 Thread Cotty


 This thread makes me think we should dedicate a month of the P U G
 to
 Bikes !

 What say you 

 +1 :)

 +2

We'll just get all the cranks.

I spoke about this before.


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Re: GESO here's one for Knarf

2009-12-28 Thread mike wilson

frank theriault wrote:


 I recognize that I can be the
king of distracting backgrounds


Early starter for 2010.

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Re: GESO here's one for Knarf

2009-12-28 Thread P. J. Alling

On 12/28/2009 5:31 AM, Cotty wrote:


   

This thread makes me think we should dedicate a month of the P U G
to
Bikes !

What say you
   

+1 :)
 

+2
   

We'll just get all the cranks.
 

I spoke about this before.
   

This thread is now officially derailed.


   



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Re: GESO here's one for Knarf

2009-12-28 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 7:51 AM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 12/28/2009 5:31 AM, Cotty wrote:



 This thread makes me think we should dedicate a month of the P U G
 to
 Bikes !

 What say you


 +1 :)


 +2


 We'll just get all the cranks.


 I spoke about this before.


 This thread is now officially derailed.

Well then, let's shift to something else.

cheers,
frank



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RE: GESO here's one for Knarf

2009-12-28 Thread Bob W
 
 
  This thread makes me think we should dedicate a month 
 of the P U 
  G to Bikes !
 
  What say you
 
 
  +1 :)
 
 
  +2
 
 
  We'll just get all the cranks.
 
 
  I spoke about this before.
 
 
  This thread is now officially derailed.
 
 Well then, let's shift to something else.
 

Tyred already? I thought you'd be pumped.





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Re: GESO here's one for Knarf

2009-12-28 Thread Larry Colen


On Dec 28, 2009, at 8:15 AM, Bob W wrote:





This thread makes me think we should dedicate a month

of the P U

G to Bikes !

What say you



+1 :)



+2



We'll just get all the cranks.



I spoke about this before.



This thread is now officially derailed.


Well then, let's shift to something else.



Tyred already? I thought you'd be pumped.


what a bunch of lugs.







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Re: GESO here's one for Knarf

2009-12-28 Thread mike wilson

Bob W wrote:

This thread makes me think we should dedicate a month 


of the P U 


G to Bikes !

What say you


+1 :)



+2



We'll just get all the cranks.



I spoke about this before.



This thread is now officially derailed.


Well then, let's shift to something else.


Tyred already? I thought you'd be pumped.


It's too difficult to frame them properly.


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Re: GESO here's one for Knarf

2009-12-28 Thread Larry Colen


On Dec 28, 2009, at 8:41 AM, mike wilson wrote:


Bob W wrote:


This thread makes me think we should dedicate a month


of the P U

G to Bikes !

What say you


+1 :)



+2



We'll just get all the cranks.



I spoke about this before.



This thread is now officially derailed.


Well then, let's shift to something else.


Tyred already? I thought you'd be pumped.


It's too difficult to frame them properly.


If I might be so braze-on, this is getting too campy, if we don't stem  
them soon, people will dropout.






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Re: GESO here's one for Knarf

2009-12-28 Thread Ken Waller


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http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com


Subject: Re: GESO here's one for Knarf




On Dec 28, 2009, at 8:41 AM, mike wilson wrote:


Bob W wrote:


This thread makes me think we should dedicate a month


of the P U

G to Bikes !

What say you


+1 :)



+2



We'll just get all the cranks.



I spoke about this before.



This thread is now officially derailed.


Well then, let's shift to something else.


Tyred already? I thought you'd be pumped.


It's too difficult to frame them properly.


If I might be so braze-on, this is getting too campy, if we don't stem  
them soon, people will dropout.


Someone will probably tell us to pedal this elsewhere

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Re: GESO here's one for Knarf

2009-12-28 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

 - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com

 Subject: Re: GESO here's one for Knarf



 On Dec 28, 2009, at 8:41 AM, mike wilson wrote:

 Bob W wrote:

 This thread makes me think we should dedicate a month

 of the P U

 G to Bikes !

 What say you

 +1 :)


 +2


 We'll just get all the cranks.


 I spoke about this before.


 This thread is now officially derailed.

 Well then, let's shift to something else.

 Tyred already? I thought you'd be pumped.

 It's too difficult to frame them properly.

 If I might be so braze-on, this is getting too campy, if we don't stem
  them soon, people will dropout.

 Someone will probably tell us to pedal this elsewhere

I'm sure eventually wheel have to.

cheers,
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Re: GESO here's one for Knarf

2009-12-28 Thread Larry Colen


On Dec 28, 2009, at 1:48 PM, frank theriault wrote:

On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com  
wrote:


Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com

Subject: Re: GESO here's one for Knarf




On Dec 28, 2009, at 8:41 AM, mike wilson wrote:


Bob W wrote:


This thread makes me think we should dedicate a month


of the P U


G to Bikes !

What say you


+1 :)



+2



We'll just get all the cranks.



I spoke about this before.



This thread is now officially derailed.


Well then, let's shift to something else.


Tyred already? I thought you'd be pumped.


It's too difficult to frame them properly.


If I might be so braze-on, this is getting too campy, if we don't  
stem

 them soon, people will dropout.


Someone will probably tell us to pedal this elsewhere


I'm sure eventually wheel have to.


That clinchers it, this topic is all sewn-up.



cheers,
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Re: GESO here's one for Knarf

2009-12-28 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:41 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 Bob W wrote:

 This thread makes me think we should dedicate a month

 of the P U

 G to Bikes !

 What say you

 +1 :)


 +2


 We'll just get all the cranks.


 I spoke about this before.


 This thread is now officially derailed.

 Well then, let's shift to something else.

 Tyred already? I thought you'd be pumped.

 It's too difficult to frame them properly.

Sorry i spoke out of turn

Dave


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Re: GESO here's one for Knarf

2009-12-28 Thread Ken Waller


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http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com

Subject: Re: GESO here's one for Knarf




On Dec 28, 2009, at 1:48 PM, frank theriault wrote:

On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com  
wrote:


Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com

Subject: Re: GESO here's one for Knarf


On Dec 28, 2009, at 8:41 AM, mike wilson wrote:


Bob W wrote:


This thread makes me think we should dedicate a month

of the P U  G to Bikes !


What say you


+1 :)


+2


We'll just get all the cranks.


I spoke about this before.


This thread is now officially derailed.


Well then, let's shift to something else.


Tyred already? I thought you'd be pumped.


It's too difficult to frame them properly.


If I might be so braze-on, this is getting too campy, if we don't  
stem them soon, people will dropout.


Someone will probably tell us to pedal this elsewhere


I'm sure eventually wheel have to.


That clinchers it, this topic is all sewn-up.


Oh give me a brake.


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Re: GESO here's one for Knarf

2009-12-27 Thread Larry Colen


On Dec 26, 2009, at 9:32 PM, frank theriault wrote:

On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 9:38 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
Nice framing of the bike. But the background is too distracting. A  
lot going on back there.


I have to agree with Paul here (although I recognize that I can be the
king of distracting backgrounds).  Interesting lugs on that old thing.
Did you notice what make of bike it is?


I did, but have since forgotten.  The model seems to be International.

As I said, one of the things I learned that day is that short lenses  
are good for including background.  Part of that has to do with the  
wider angle of view, part of that has to do with the greater depth of  
field.  In retrospect that shot would probably have been better with  
the DA40 or even the DFA50, at a much wider aperture.




Looks like it's seen better days, but still, all bikes are beautiful
(in their own way).  As Paul said, the framing of the bike is very
well done, and I like the conversion, too.


If you mean framing as in composition, thank you.  If you mean framing  
as in pretty lugs, I agree.


One of these days I should do some portraits of my legnano.




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Re: GESO here's one for Knarf

2009-12-27 Thread David J Brooks
Nice framing and sharpness to the shot. Just wish that car was not
there, but what can you do eh.

Dave

On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 About a week ago, when I left the dojo after the morning Aikido class, the
 weather was too nice to do what I was supposed to, so I went down to Pacific
 Ave in Santa Cruz, grabbed a bite to eat then spent some time wandering
 around the area learning to shoot with my 20mm lens.  I was somewhat
 surprised at how educational it can be to go on a photo walk with a new
 focal length, especially one that isn't in the standard range.  I'd say
 that my chief lesson of the day is to use a wide angle lens to include more
 of the background, no matter how much of the frame the primary subject
 fills.

 With all of the work that I've been doing on the house, I didn't get around
 to processing those shots until this afternoon. When I was processing them,
 I saw this street shot of a 20ish year old roadbike and thought of Frank, so
 I processed it in black and white:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4217410740/in/set-72157622951220933/


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Re: GESO here's one for Knarf

2009-12-27 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 4:31 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 I did, but have since forgotten.  The model seems to be International.

 As I said, one of the things I learned that day is that short lenses are
 good for including background.  Part of that has to do with the wider angle
 of view, part of that has to do with the greater depth of field.  In
 retrospect that shot would probably have been better with the DA40 or even
 the DFA50, at a much wider aperture.

Yeah, shooting with a wider lens certainly means that one has to pay
much more attention or at least be more aware of the background, as
it's going to be in the frame.

 If you mean framing as in composition, thank you.  If you mean framing as in
 pretty lugs, I agree.

I meant your composition, actually.  I did notice the lugs, and they
look pretty, too.


 One of these days I should do some portraits of my legnano.

Look forward to that!

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Re: GESO here's one for Knarf

2009-12-27 Thread Ken Waller
This thread makes me think we should dedicate a month of the P U G to Bikes 
!


What say you 

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com


Subject: Re: GESO here's one for Knarf


On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 4:31 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:


I did, but have since forgotten. The model seems to be International.

As I said, one of the things I learned that day is that short lenses are
good for including background. Part of that has to do with the wider angle
of view, part of that has to do with the greater depth of field. In
retrospect that shot would probably have been better with the DA40 or even
the DFA50, at a much wider aperture.


Yeah, shooting with a wider lens certainly means that one has to pay
much more attention or at least be more aware of the background, as
it's going to be in the frame.

If you mean framing as in composition, thank you. If you mean framing as 
in

pretty lugs, I agree.


I meant your composition, actually.  I did notice the lugs, and they
look pretty, too.



One of these days I should do some portraits of my legnano.


Look forward to that!

cheers,
frank



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Re: GESO here's one for Knarf

2009-12-27 Thread Subash
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:08:28 -0500
Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

 This thread makes me think we should dedicate a month of the P U G to
 Bikes !
 
 What say you 
 
+1 :)

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Re: GESO here's one for Knarf

2009-12-27 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:08:28 -0500
 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

 This thread makes me think we should dedicate a month of the P U G to
 Bikes !

 What say you 

 +1 :)

+2

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Re: GESO here's one for Knarf

2009-12-27 Thread Larry Colen


On Dec 27, 2009, at 8:58 PM, frank theriault wrote:


On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:08:28 -0500
Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

This thread makes me think we should dedicate a month of the P U G  
to

Bikes !

What say you 


+1 :)


+2


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Re: GESO here's one for Knarf

2009-12-26 Thread paul stenquist
Nice framing of the bike. But the background is too distracting. A lot going on 
back there.
Paul
On Dec 26, 2009, at 6:53 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

 About a week ago, when I left the dojo after the morning Aikido class, the 
 weather was too nice to do what I was supposed to, so I went down to Pacific 
 Ave in Santa Cruz, grabbed a bite to eat then spent some time wandering 
 around the area learning to shoot with my 20mm lens.  I was somewhat 
 surprised at how educational it can be to go on a photo walk with a new focal 
 length, especially one that isn't in the standard range.  I'd say that my 
 chief lesson of the day is to use a wide angle lens to include more of the 
 background, no matter how much of the frame the primary subject fills.
 
 With all of the work that I've been doing on the house, I didn't get around 
 to processing those shots until this afternoon. When I was processing them, I 
 saw this street shot of a 20ish year old roadbike and thought of Frank, so I 
 processed it in black and white:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4217410740/in/set-72157622951220933/
 
 
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Re: GESO here's one for Knarf

2009-12-26 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 9:38 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Nice framing of the bike. But the background is too distracting. A lot going 
 on back there.

I have to agree with Paul here (although I recognize that I can be the
king of distracting backgrounds).  Interesting lugs on that old thing.
 Did you notice what make of bike it is?

Looks like it's seen better days, but still, all bikes are beautiful
(in their own way).  As Paul said, the framing of the bike is very
well done, and I like the conversion, too.

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